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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 19, 2024 13:58:42 GMT
lol why are people so pressed about goofy social media comments? Talk about making mountains out of molehills. And gym bros have been a thing since forever, anyone who thinks otherwise either has never been to a gym or knows nothing about workout culture.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jul 19, 2024 13:58:56 GMT
I think it's time for everyone to come to terms with the fact that we Gen Xers and Elder Millennials are all getting older, and are no longer the target demographic.
We can either throw a fit like a cranky Boomer, sit in our basement watching our generations' version of Westerns and call our children when we need them to fix our wifi. Or we can make an effort to stay current with society for as long as possible. Your choice.
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jul 19, 2024 14:04:40 GMT
I'd say the expression 'gym bro' is the one considered youth speech. And 'tall king' and 'short king'. Too many to mention but there's been an avalanche of these in social media marketing lately. "Gym bro" is at least decade old at this point. As someone who is over four decades old herself, I reserve the right to think of the expression 'gym bro' as youth speech ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/uYQYVMAupPAfTXFFwWlB.png) Regardless, it isn't really about young or old, it's the way of writing that lacks expression. It is a language that only works if your readers are fluent in it. But let us proceed with the actual, relevant topic: Taash.
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Post by azarhal on Jul 19, 2024 14:19:44 GMT
I think it's time for everyone to come to terms with the fact that we Gen Xers and Elder Millennials are all getting older, and are no longer the target demographic. We can either throw a fit like a cranky Boomer, sit in our basement watching our generations' version of Westerns and call our children when we need them to fix our wifi. Or we can make an effort to stay current with society for as long as possible. Your choice. Outside of Emmrich, I'm pretty sure everyone else among the companions will be sub-40 years old. They might barely qualify as Millennials!
Solas is a Boomer thought.
One thing I know, if Taash likes to work out, she would get along great with Cassandra who barely ever stopped training in Skyhold, refuse to wear anything but her armor and lived in the armory...
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 19, 2024 14:26:36 GMT
I think it's time for everyone to come to terms with the fact that we Gen Xers and Elder Millennials are all getting older, and are no longer the target demographic. We can either throw a fit like a cranky Boomer, sit in our basement watching our generations' version of Westerns and call our children when we need them to fix our wifi. Or we can make an effort to stay current with society for as long as possible. Your choice. Outside of Emmrich, I'm pretty sure everyone else among the companions will be sub-40 years old. They might barely qualify as Millennials!
Solas is a Boomer thought.
One thing I know, if Taash likes to work out, she would get along great with Cassandra who barely ever stopped training in Skyhold, refuse to wear anything but her armor and lived in the armory...
Those poor dummies...
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Post by RelevantRevenant on Jul 19, 2024 14:26:41 GMT
I'm still curious as to what constitutes as gym in Thedas? How does Taash work out? ![:ph34r:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/JErhveBogJGoioskdwCM.png)
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 19, 2024 14:45:00 GMT
For me it's the way they're trying to be funny with those labels that I find extremely cringe.
But yeah, maybe at 40 I'm getting too old for this sort of marketing. Definitely makes me feel like I'm no longer the target audience. Which is pretty damn sad when you consider that all their old fans are aging now and getting alienated.
Then again I guess they assume us crusty old nerds will buy DAV anyway so they focus on all the kids they want to get interested.
I wonder though, does this even work? I'm pretty sure I would find it all cringe if I was 20 again too. Trying way too hard. It's almost pathetic to me.
Oh well. Let's just move on and wait what other weird shit they say, lol.
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Post by Gileadan on Jul 19, 2024 14:56:03 GMT
As that recent article quoted Mr McKay: "new voices and perspectives".
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Post by Little Bengel on Jul 19, 2024 14:56:21 GMT
Might just be me, but I have a feeling this is less marketing and more random devs just talking about the stuff they've been doing.
Some informality is to be expected, especially since this appears to be a younger dev just talking about something I would assume she's enjoyed working on.
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Post by eaglepursuit on Jul 19, 2024 15:42:20 GMT
Followup question, does the Lighthouse have a gym?
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Post by Little Bengel on Jul 19, 2024 16:05:22 GMT
Followup question, does the Lighthouse have a gym? If it doesn't, it's now really close to getting one.
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Post by colfoley on Jul 19, 2024 19:23:04 GMT
Now don't know quite if the tech fully exists in Thedas or in its real life historical equivalent but with Manfred and Asaan kind of wish she got access to unique pistols.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Jul 19, 2024 21:19:46 GMT
Now don't know quite if the tech fully exists in Thedas or in its real life historical equivalent but with Manfred and Asaan kind of wish she got access to unique pistols. In the lore, the only faction that has guns is the Qun with cannons. The closest we have to firearms is Isabela having one-handed crossbow in DAI multiplayer(hope these are options for Rogue ranged weapon in DAV).
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Post by mrobnoxiousuk on Jul 20, 2024 11:56:51 GMT
Now don't know quite if the tech fully exists in Thedas or in its real life historical equivalent but with Manfred and Asaan kind of wish she got access to unique pistols. In the lore, the only faction that has guns is the Qun with cannons. The closest we have to firearms is Isabela having one-handed crossbow in DAI multiplayer(hope these are options for Rogue ranged weapon in DAV). Indeed in fact the only thing that comes close to Gaatlok is lyrium infused explosives that the Dwarves use.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 20, 2024 14:20:23 GMT
Now don't know quite if the tech fully exists in Thedas or in its real life historical equivalent but with Manfred and Asaan kind of wish she got access to unique pistols. In the lore, the only faction that has guns is the Qun with cannons. The closest we have to firearms is Isabela having one-handed crossbow in DAI multiplayer(hope these are options for Rogue ranged weapon in DAV). We might see the Sha-Brytol again. Their bolt guns packed quite a punch, esp. in DAIMP. ![](https://64.media.tumblr.com/03e5369662b32e5622e2b9c03dbd8a9f/ed5a74869d0fc0c8-0b/s1280x1920/4ec58e31058192a2c83e1f8abcff9ba254fbbb32.jpg)
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Post by Iddy on Jul 20, 2024 17:33:16 GMT
I don't mind the informal language used by devs on Twitter.
I would only be upset if the characters started talking like that in the game, because they don't live in our world.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 20, 2024 19:00:12 GMT
I don't mind the informal language used by devs on Twitter. I would only be upset if the characters started talking like that in the game, because they don't live in our world. It's just that I still find it "unimmersive" to hear companions described like that by the devs, such funny modern society talk. I know it doesn't matter and doesn't say anything about the writing in the game. But I would rather they talked about them in a way that reflects the game world.
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 20, 2024 21:40:52 GMT
In fairness, there have always been modern colloquialisms in Dragon Age. You can see a lot of the Buffy inspiration in Alistair's dialogue, and the warden also had some pretty modern lingo as options. I'll never forget that one dialogue tree where you tell the centuries old arcane warrior 'nah' after they beg you to set their soul free. And then Bhelen's crier uses phrases like epic fail! to describe Harrowmont's defeat.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 20, 2024 22:35:15 GMT
And then Bhelen's crier uses phrases like epic fail! to describe Harrowmont's defeat. I give that one a pass as I love that line. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png)
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 20, 2024 22:47:01 GMT
And then Bhelen's crier uses phrases like epic fail! to describe Harrowmont's defeat. I give that one a pass as I love that line. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) Ha, agreed. I'm not usually super bothered in general by such things, and that one falls squarely into superman in Thedas territory. Just so goofy that I roll with it.
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Post by Guardian on Jul 21, 2024 2:38:03 GMT
I give that one a pass as I love that line. ![:lol:](//storage.proboards.com/6576594/images/qUctXNjCPgwPaLsZeKry.png) Ha, agreed. I'm not usually super bothered in general by such things, and that one falls squarely into superman in Thedas territory. Just so goofy that I roll with it. Yeah....I guess I view it more along the lines of so long as it's not abused or constantly repeated, the occasional line or word like that is fine.
When it came to Alistair, it's just his personality, so, despite being somewhat "immersion-breaking", it fit him. To not have him be like that would make him not be Alistair anymore. And one character out of a cast of "serious" characters is not a bad thing. You have Morrigan, Sten, Wynne, Leliana - these characters are more serious in their tone, or at least more grounded. One character that's goofy isn't a deal-breaker.
It's when you have something like Andromeda, where everyone is a jokester...or at least most are. Then it gets a bit irritating.
So, I do understand Kappa Neko's point. It's sort of why I felt that Inquisition sort of had that imbalance - for every character like Solas or Cassandra, you had Sera or Dorian, or Bull (two of which I didn't mind). So....hard to say how this will shake out. Taash strikes me as someone that will lean more towards traditional Qunari/Tal-Vashoth behavior (unless they make her like Qwyddion...ugh, gods no....). I just worry that it'll once again be more "jokesters than grounded" in this cast again. Time will tell.
I'm trying to keep this still somehow about Taash, since it is her thread and all
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 21, 2024 2:51:09 GMT
Ha, agreed. I'm not usually super bothered in general by such things, and that one falls squarely into superman in Thedas territory. Just so goofy that I roll with it. Yeah....I guess I view it more along the lines of so long as it's not abused or constantly repeated, the occasional line or word like that is fine.
When it came to Alistair, it's just his personality, so, despite being somewhat "immersion-breaking", it fit him. To not have him be like that would make him not be Alistair anymore. And one character out of a cast of "serious" characters is not a bad thing. You have Morrigan, Sten, Wynne, Leliana - these characters are more serious in their tone, or at least more grounded. One character that's goofy isn't a deal-breaker.
It's when you have something like Andromeda, where everyone is a jokester...or at least most are. Then it gets a bit irritating.
So, I do understand Kappa Neko's point. It's sort of why I felt that Inquisition sort of had that imbalance - for every character like Solas or Cassandra, you had Sera or Dorian, or Bull (two of which I didn't mind). So....hard to say how this will shake out. Taash strikes me as someone that will lean more towards traditional Qunari/Tal-Vashoth behavior (unless they make her like Qwyddion...ugh, gods no....). I just worry that it'll once again be more "jokesters than grounded" in this cast again. Time will tell.
I'm trying to keep this still somehow about Taash, since it is her thread and all A character being lighthearted and goofy isn't necessarily the same thing as being anachronistic or modern, and all those characters use humor as means to deflect or emotionally distance themselves in some way or another. Morrigan and Sten are very funny as well. But I get what you mean. With Taash, it's hard to say anything because there's so little known about her currently. I hope we get a dry sense of humor closer to Sten, I love that sort of thing. A lot of Andromeda’s bigger issues could have been resolved with better voice acting honestly. Quite a few poor performances (or poor direction) that undercut the attempts at humor. And then there’s Peebee, who has a decent voice and moments but not enough to overcome the grate.
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Post by Kappa Neko on Jul 21, 2024 8:37:59 GMT
In fairness, there have always been modern colloquialisms in Dragon Age. You can see a lot of the Buffy inspiration in Alistair's dialogue, and the warden also had some pretty modern lingo as options. I'll never forget that one dialogue tree where you tell the centuries old arcane warrior 'nah' after they beg you to set their soul free. And then Bhelen's crier uses phrases like epic fail! to describe Harrowmont's defeat. True but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. While I grant that it's probably really difficult to craft a language for a setting that is 100% free of anachronistic stuff, I appreciate the effort though. It can really take me out of a situation when things sound too much like current society. At least BioWare usually makes good use of unique in game words for things. That is very important to create a believable unique "alien" world. Different language, different society. I want more of it, not less. Just a general note. I know I'm being nitpicky.
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Post by illuminated11 on Jul 21, 2024 11:58:24 GMT
In fairness, there have always been modern colloquialisms in Dragon Age. You can see a lot of the Buffy inspiration in Alistair's dialogue, and the warden also had some pretty modern lingo as options. I'll never forget that one dialogue tree where you tell the centuries old arcane warrior 'nah' after they beg you to set their soul free. And then Bhelen's crier uses phrases like epic fail! to describe Harrowmont's defeat. True but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. While I grant that it's probably really difficult to craft a language for a setting that is 100% free of anachronistic stuff, I appreciate the effort though. It can really take me out of a situation when things sound too much like current society. At least BioWare usually makes good use of unique in game words for things. That is very important to create a believable unique "alien" world. Different language, different society. I want more of it, not less. Just a general note. I know I'm being nitpicky. Thats fair. I don’t really see it as a good or bad thing, it’s neutral and mostly dependent upon execution. I talked before how Origins isn’t really medieval so much as having medieval trappings, and the tone is very specific and helps Dragon Age feel more defined and unique in how it conveys emotion and character beats. It also can help create the grounded feel people like about the setting, when used correctly, and juxtapose with more fantastical, mythic and/or elevated elements. (Or even contribute to the weird and fantastical, by having unexplained moments like space baby.)
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