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Post by grallon on Aug 17, 2024 15:24:29 GMT
Gotta say, I feel dissapointed by view counts of release date trailer, it's been 30 hours and it's still quite far from 1 million views. At least dislike brigading is much less significant. Why is it that disliking something you happen to like is labelled 'brigading'? That 'Twatter-like' attitude is far too common in certain circles. You know what they about first impressions... I get the feeling the first trailer was really what Bioware was going for in terms of tone and target audience - the non-existent 'modern audience' - but in light of the backlash, they've thrown this latest bone to the existing fanbase. Still, at the very least it shows a measure of awareness and a willingness to adapt, if only on the surface.
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Post by jennica on Aug 17, 2024 16:33:04 GMT
Someone posted on reddit the names of pre-order items. I guess it's a bit spoilery, so i think it's better to post it here. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1euik3k/preorder_items_names/ I find Taash's weapon and Lucanis's armour names very interesting.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 17, 2024 16:59:13 GMT
Someone posted on reddit the names of pre-order items. I guess it's a bit spoilery, so i think it's better to post it here. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1euik3k/preorder_items_names/ I find Taash's weapon and Lucanis's armour names very interesting. Armor of Bellanaris....Armor of Eternity Revas Robe....Freedom Robe Harellan's Bolt...Trickster's Bolt
On a side note, are they bringing back Katriel's Grasp from DAO to go with Katriel's False Face...
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2024 17:24:19 GMT
As Azarhal has highlighted in the Spoiler, I find some of the items for Rook even more interesting. Also, Neve's and Bellara's items. The Ringlet of Sorrow for Bellara seems to confirm something that was suggested in an interview; that there is something tragic in her past. I also think that she knew the elf wrapped up in the tentacles but may be she was just shocked at what was happening to them.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 17, 2024 17:33:32 GMT
Gotta say, I feel dissapointed by view counts of release date trailer, it's been 30 hours and it's still quite far from 1 million views. At least dislike brigading is much less significant. Why is it that disliking something you happen to like is labelled 'brigading'? That 'Twatter-like' attitude is far too common in certain circles. Because sometimes it is brigading.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Aug 17, 2024 17:42:31 GMT
Someone posted on reddit the names of pre-order items. I guess it's a bit spoilery, so i think it's better to post it here. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/dragonage/comments/1euik3k/preorder_items_names/ I find Taash's weapon and Lucanis's armour names very interesting. Armor of Bellanaris....Armor of Eternity Revas Robe....Freedom Robe Harellan's Bolt...Trickster's Bolt
On a side note, are they bringing back Katriel's Grasp from DAO to go with Katriel's False Face...
Trickster's bolt....or Rebel's bolt?
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Aug 17, 2024 17:51:34 GMT
Gotta say, I feel dissapointed by view counts of release date trailer, it's been 30 hours and it's still quite far from 1 million views. At least dislike brigading is much less significant. Why is it that disliking something you happen to like is labelled 'brigading'? That 'Twatter-like' attitude is far too common in certain circles. BioWare is notorious for being a victim of "anti-woke" (or DEI as they call it these days) brigading. It's not like BioWare has shied away from it though, to their credit. They've doubled down on it if anything, much to these people's chagrin lmao.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 17, 2024 17:52:04 GMT
Armor of Bellanaris....Armor of Eternity Revas Robe....Freedom Robe Harellan's Bolt...Trickster's Bolt
On a side note, are they bringing back Katriel's Grasp from DAO to go with Katriel's False Face...
Trickster's bolt....or Rebel's bolt? technically Traitor's Bolt, since harellan meaning is actually "traitor to one's kin".
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Post by Lebanese Dude on Aug 17, 2024 17:53:59 GMT
I wouldn't worry about youtube views that much. They've never been indicative of RPG success.
BG3, the modern day wonderkind of RPGs, had an *extended* early access phase and a near flawless marketing strategy and its trailers only had around a million views before release. Most of the views since then (launch has ~3.1M atm) are from post-release.
That being said, I wouldn't expect BG3 levels of success either. BG3 had a lot going for it, from D&Ds spike in popularity (Critical Role etc) to them having a lot of hype with almost no negativity. If BioWare released an Act 3 that was that *shit* (I dont use that word lightly), they'd get skewered. They were mauled for far less in the past.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2024 17:55:38 GMT
Trickster's bolt....or Rebel's bolt? technically Traitor's Bolt, since harellan meaning is actually " traitor to one's kin". Since it was scholars from the University of Orlais that decided the translation was rebel and how would they know since they actively block any elves from it when they can, I've always thought that was a bit convenient to start the idea Fen'Harel was not all he seemed from Dalish legend. After all, what elves would they be consulting to get the alternative translation but the Dalish? It is not as though the Sentinels were welcoming to strangers. Even Felassan, if asked, would have said it meant trickster so not to arouse suspicion about his own origins and in any case all his stories about Fen'Harel played up that side of him. Plus, if anything harellan should mean something like "dreadful" or "terrifying" because "Harel" means "Dread" as confirmed both by Solas and Flemeth. I suppose Flemeth could have been ironic in saying it.
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Post by OhDaniGirl on Aug 17, 2024 17:55:42 GMT
Trickster's bolt....or Rebel's bolt? technically Traitor's Bolt, since harellan meaning is actually "traitor to one's kin".
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Post by azarhal on Aug 17, 2024 18:08:07 GMT
technically Traitor's Bolt, since harellan meaning is actually "traitor to one's kin".
I almost posted the codex, read the first sentence of it carefully: The Dalish use "Harellan" to mean "traitor to one's kin," but the word does not appear in any elven text before the Towers Age.
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Post by gervaise21 on Aug 17, 2024 18:58:39 GMT
I almost posted the codex, read the first sentence of it carefully: The Dalish use "Harellan" to mean "traitor to one's kin," but the word does not appear in any elven text before the Towers Age.
As I've already mentioned, I think that whole codex was a bit suss and a rather heavy handed way of introducing the idea that Solas was a rebel. It obviously would make sense that Harellan would mean "traitor to one's kin" since the Dalish say that Fen'Harel betrayed his own kin when he trapped the gods and technically if they were all originally spirits then in that sense they were related. However, I still feel the whole thing was odd considering how Flemeth contradicted any other interpretation of the world "Harel" other than meaning "Dread", which Solas pretty much confirmed as he said he took the name after having had it bestowed on him by the Evanuris as a way of terrifying his enemies' supporters and encouraging his own. I suppose "Traitor" might put fear into his enemies but it is more of a derogatory term than one likely to create fear. Perhaps it did mean "traitor" originally when he was named that by the Evanuris but then how did the Dalish learn this and why did they still continue to call him the Dread Wolf instead of the Traitor Wolf, which was after all apt in view of their story about the betrayal?
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Post by Kappa Neko on Aug 17, 2024 19:30:09 GMT
Why is it that disliking something you happen to like is labelled 'brigading'? That 'Twatter-like' attitude is far too common in certain circles. BioWare is notorious for being a victim of "anti-woke" (or DEI as they call it these days) brigading. It's not like BioWare has shied away from it though, to their credit. They've doubled down on it if anything, much to these people's chagrin lmao. Every studio is being hounded now. Even the anti woke heroes at CDPR are now on the shit list because they are working with Sweet Baby for their next game. Every single major game is being targeted now. Can we stop with the persecution complex? The success of DAV will not be decided by this. If views are lower this time it's because the first impression was bad. Can't undo first impressions. First impressions can be misleading. Very much hope so with ALL of the marketing for this game. But can't blame people for not being interested anymore. It's not a conspiracy. BioWare made the game a certain way and time will tell if that's a success story or not.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 17, 2024 19:51:53 GMT
BioWare is notorious for being a victim of "anti-woke" (or DEI as they call it these days) brigading. It's not like BioWare has shied away from it though, to their credit. They've doubled down on it if anything, much to these people's chagrin lmao. Every studio is being hounded now. Even the anti woke heroes at CDPR are now on the shit list because they are working with Sweet Baby for their next game. Every single major game is being targeted now. Can we stop with the persecution complex? The success of DAV will not be decided by this. If views are lower this time it's because the first impression was bad. Can't undo first impressions. First impressions can be misleading. Very much hope so with ALL of the marketing for this game. But can't blame people for not being interested anymore. It's not a conspiracy. BioWare made the game a certain way and time will tell if that's a success story or not. it matters very much where the first impression is coming from and what mind set someone is in when viewing that first impression. As I have been reminded of. Read a lot of the commentary about it being all cartoony/ Disney/ Fortnight before the first trailer so was like 'oh no'. So imagine my surprise when the trailer was none of those things and quintessential dragon age. Sure first impressions are important but if you got that out of the first trailer then either you have a very weird very specific standard with very rose colored glasses that DA never was, or you were unlikely to buy the game in the first place.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 17, 2024 19:53:46 GMT
I just noticed there's someone trapped in a... Blight Tentacle? It's not as grey/black as the stuff in the clearly blighted tunnel behind Rook and cie in the same scene and later in the trailer elsewhere (there is a lots of blighted growing crap in the trailer). But at the same time it looks like some of the stuff related to the blight so...
Also, if you look fast while it's in the air to crash land, I think we can see the tower the same dragon is hanging on earlier in the trailer in the back.
Also, that dragon is total cat spirited.
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Post by Reznore on Aug 17, 2024 19:59:15 GMT
I'm gonna blame Ghilan'ain for all the new creepy shit. But it might be a bait trap to blight that dragon.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 17, 2024 20:06:46 GMT
It also looks like we have a Deep Roads Cable Transport/Zipline. Looking closely in the trailer, you can see the gold outline of the handlebars pulsing.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 17, 2024 20:07:46 GMT
Also railroad tracks.
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Post by Reznore on Aug 17, 2024 20:16:31 GMT
It looks like the wardens managed to put our best girl Ghil down for a moment but then Elgar'nan comes to the rescue, and blast all the wardens away. At another point Ghil get shanked with Solas multi purpose murder knife, there is another magical blast coming from her body. Kinda reminds me of killing the Archdemon in DAO. Thing I wonder about is the wardens. Coryphanus could do a number on them, and the Evanuris are much more powerful and knowledgeable about the Blight.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 17, 2024 20:19:51 GMT
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Post by colfoley on Aug 17, 2024 20:20:26 GMT
It looks like the wardens managed to put our best girl Ghil down for a moment but then Elgar'nan comes to the rescue, and blast all the wardens away. At another point Ghil get shanked with Solas multi purpose murder knife, there is another magical blast coming from her body. Kinda reminds me of killing the Archdemon in DAO. Thing I wonder about is the wardens. Coryphanus could do a number on them, and the Evanuris are much more powerful and knowledgeable about the Blight. if that is the connection then makes it even more interesting that Rook is trying to struggle to approach her. Yeah been wondering about that to.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 17, 2024 20:23:26 GMT
BioWare is notorious for being a victim of "anti-woke" (or DEI as they call it these days) brigading. It's not like BioWare has shied away from it though, to their credit. They've doubled down on it if anything, much to these people's chagrin lmao. Every studio is being hounded now. Even the anti woke heroes at CDPR are now on the shit list because they are working with Sweet Baby for their next game. Every single major game is being targeted now. Can we stop with the persecution complex? Yes, it's so toxic out there that I actually notice the emergence of pushback against the overwhelming negativity towards big releases... but to deny that Bioware has long been targeted specifically by certain group of gamers is kinda weird, given that it's not any kind of secret that Bioware has long had a loud crowd of ideologically-driven Negative Nancies that made each controversy (or "controversy") worse. People are way overestimating the impact of first impressions, especially in gaming, when we saw many times how the narrative around the game can change in an instant, and can be impacted by virtually anything (Helldivers 2 being a good recent example - people and critics loved the game... reviews on Steam went from "overwhelmingly positive" to "overwhelmingly negative" in about a day after the PSN account controversy) If anything, the views are lower because the trailer is good (it's a prevalent impression that I got) and there's no decent reason to pile on it. Negative engagement is still engagement, and the view of a person who came solely to dislike the video or write a negative comment ultimately counts towards the view tally.
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