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Post by midnight tea on Aug 16, 2024 0:55:02 GMT
Remember - you're only white if you're pasty and rich enough!) To qualify for a White Person Card, one must be Nosferatu first and Noblesse second. To the Bourgeoisie Nosferatu, consideration may be given, case by case, if the circumstances are extraordinary, if their financial standings are exemplary and they are of a certain ... quality. Note of import - if the Nosferatu fails or barely passes financial standings they can still make up for it by being viewed as Deeply Traditional (aka not as infected by a particular mind virus).
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Post by smilesja on Aug 16, 2024 0:55:07 GMT
I don't want to start a thing (which usually happens when this is mentioned) but oh boy I can't deal with all the people crying about how there are "no white men" in the game. We literally have Nosferatu, sorry Solas, showing a full pasty face, not to mention characters like Varric, Emmerich, and Manfred. There's literally one black character and they lose their shit. These people wouldn't have survived a week as a woman or any other minority. Yeah I saw that on youtube, very surprised. I've seen several people stating that this game would fail because there was no strong white male character, and they complained about Davrin as well. A little confused, I asked these guys why they discarded Emmerich and Lucanis, as strong white male characters, what measure they would use to decide that they were no strong male characters without knowing the story, the content, or without knowing anything actually about this game ? And they bizarrely responded me that Lucanis was not white, but brown. And I was like WTF ! I then asked them if they ever left their country to travel and discover the world lol. I, as a black guy, had to educate them on the fact that also among white people they was diversity of skin colors. In the north of Europe, people are pale, not necessarily in the south for example. Italians, spanish, greeks even in the south of France, white people look easily like Lucanis. I traveled a lot, so I am very aware of that. Then one of them answered me that frenchs, spanishs, and italians weren't true white people. That's where I figured out I was maybe talking to 14 years old kiddies or the very very far right and it wasn't worth it to debate or try to understand their logic. they were just irrational. To be honest I felt that these guys never played dragon age, because there were already dark skinned elves in DAO, in the Brecilian forest, in DAII, and in DAI, in the exalted plains with blackhairstyle. They also forgot about Isabela and Viviene.
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Post by jennica on Aug 16, 2024 1:01:19 GMT
Is it me or Taash has some really pointy fingernails? It also seems that whether or not characters' skin has some visible texture to it depends on lightning. Solas here looks good, but there are also moments where skin looks really smooth and plasticky. Some of it is due to Youtube compression, i guess.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 16, 2024 1:01:22 GMT
This trailer has the same visual style as in previous trailers.... that Disneyish look. No improvements in the faces either. Bellara and Taash where the former is really cartoonish and the latter manish looking. I miss the DA2-DAi realism style that brings the chars to life. Must give Bio this, though, hair is much better including the movement physics... nice.
Question I have is "what's with the visual dark theme?". Thedas seems to be lit by the light from the moon.
No, I'm not pre-ordering. Cinematic trailers is not game play. I want to see K&M + mage combat . Plus, I want to see if someone using the CC make a feminine face of a Q and not a hybrid android, robot-doll one.
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 16, 2024 1:09:44 GMT
Snip Emmerich and Lucanis, as strong white male characters,
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Hm... Emmrich as a strong white male char? Naah.. He looks like another cartoonish frail old man to me.... I prefer the realistic looks in DAi-DA2.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 16, 2024 1:23:30 GMT
Second time through...vibing with it more. So think most of my criticism was born from my disappointment at the release date. But subtitles+ earphones made a vast difference to things. And much like any 'busy blink and you miss it' piece of art things tend to slow down and I notice more on rewatch. (*Coughriseofskywalkercough)
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Post by Sartoz on Aug 16, 2024 1:27:22 GMT
They also forgot about Isabela and Viviene.
Bio can't remember faces or skin colour from game to game. Example: Laidlaw's excuse was the FB engine could not replicate Cassandra's face from DA2 due to "differences" between the FB and Lycium engines.. OK, I accepted that.
Morrigan's face between DAI and DA4 is also different. What's Bio's excuse now?
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Post by colfoley on Aug 16, 2024 1:31:26 GMT
Also going to point out do hope that music is in the game or indicitive.
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Post by illuminated11 on Aug 16, 2024 1:51:19 GMT
I really don't understand the DAO and DAII are more realistic thing. DAO characters look like barbie dolls most of the time unless they're Dumbledore years old, in which case they're crypt keepers, and DAII was incredibly stylized. I do think some of the models look a little plastic-y compared to Inquisition, but Inquisition also had weird quirk where everyone seemed to be dipped in dew and constantly glistening.
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Post by githcheater on Aug 16, 2024 1:58:21 GMT
They also forgot about Isabela and Viviene.
Bio can't remember faces or skin colour from game to game. Example: Laidlaw's excuse was the FB engine could not replicate Cassandra's face from DA2 due to "differences" between the FB and Lycium engines.. OK, I accepted that.
Morrigan's face between DAI and DA4 is also different. What's Bio's excuse now?
Artistic License Rebirth? The protagonist is never duplicated, and the art is vastly different from game to game ... No Dragon Age surprises here ...
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Post by melbella on Aug 16, 2024 2:01:07 GMT
On yet another rewatch/listen I heard the wolf howl when doggo is going for the eyes.
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Post by river82 on Aug 16, 2024 2:11:06 GMT
So think most of my criticism was born from my disappointment at the release date. You do set yourself up for disappointment a lot
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Post by grallon on Aug 16, 2024 2:15:46 GMT
I really don't understand the DAO and DAII are more realistic thing. DAO characters look like barbie dolls most of the time unless they're Dumbledore years old, in which case they're crypt keepers, and DAII was incredibly stylized. I do think some of the models look a little plastic-y compared to Inquisition, but Inquisition also had weird quirk where everyone seemed to be dipped in dew and constantly glistening. Simple, you have smooth rubbery faces moving in super crisp environments - the characters look plastered in - superimposed. It reminds me of early CGI, where you could spot it by the lack of depth when compared to the actors and surroundings. Here it's not lack of depth but rather lack of definition, of crispness. I mean the rendering of the fabric these people are wearing is more crisp then their puffy, play-doh like faces. Add to this the goofy demons/darkspawn or the griffin with its super large eyes, almost like a plushy, and you get an impression that these characters wandered into that world coming from a cartoon version of DA. Compare that with the older DA games, or Witcher 3 or BG3, and you can see how the character design in those games were made to mesh seamlessly with their environments. I wonder if the environments and the characters were not designed by two different teams and then blended together...
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Post by dazk on Aug 16, 2024 2:36:14 GMT
Finally excited for Veilguard after that trailer. Morrigan Neve without a hat.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 16, 2024 2:43:54 GMT
So think most of my criticism was born from my disappointment at the release date. You do set yourself up for disappointment a lot thanks I hadn't noticed.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Aug 16, 2024 2:47:34 GMT
Varric's aged, and so has Morrigan. Of course she's not gonna look the same as in DAO, when she was literally like eighteen. She's a mother (Kieran must be a young adult by now), a mage of considerable power (especially if she drank from the Well of Sorrows). Her look's gotta reflect all the changes she's been through. She's more like Flemeth now (though not quite as old) - something close to a goddess. But still quite recognizable - or was anybody like "Who's that?", when she appeared? She looks frickin' awesome, if you ask me!
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 16, 2024 2:48:31 GMT
Finally excited for Veilguard after that trailer. Morrigan Neve without a hat. Yeah i tlooks good .I lik ethe pics they'v eshow nu sof a femal erook as well gives m ehop eI ca nmake a cute female mag eRook for my first playthrough which is m yplan .Bu ttha tis after I ge tm ypreveilguard run done.
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Post by dazk on Aug 16, 2024 2:49:19 GMT
Varric's aged, and so has Morrigan. Of course she's not gonna look the same as in DAO, when she was literally like eighteen. She's a mother (Kieran must be a young adult by now), a mage of considerable power (especially if she drank from the Well of Sorrows). Her look's gotta reflect all the changes she's been through. She's more like Flemeth now (though not quite as old) - something close to a goddess. But still quite recognizable - or was anybody like "Who's that?", when she appeared? She looks frickin' awesome, if you ask me! "She looks frickin' awesome, if you ask me!" She certainly does.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 16, 2024 2:56:56 GMT
Varric's aged, and so has Morrigan. Of course she's not gonna look the same as in DAO, when she was literally like eighteen. She's a mother (Kieran must be a young adult by now), a mage of considerable power (especially if she drank from the Well of Sorrows). Her look's gotta reflect all the changes she's been through. She's more like Flemeth now (though not quite as old) - something close to a goddess. But still quite recognizable - or was anybody like "Who's that?", when she appeared? She looks frickin' awesome, if you ask me! "She looks frickin' awesome, if you ask me!" She certainly does. Yeah she certainl ylooks like someone yo uwouldn't want to mess with now as for whatever else we have to deal with we'll see but I' m just glad we have a date locked in now which I think after 10 years is what we all needed and wanted closure to this story.
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Post by dazk on Aug 16, 2024 2:58:10 GMT
What is going on with Hardings face????? Sorry not the best shot: Morrigan looks more like Flemeth I think:
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Post by SomberXIII on Aug 16, 2024 3:29:19 GMT
Is it just lighting differences or did they soft redesigned Emmrich? Anyway the DILF gets hotter. I was gonna romance him but now it's 100%
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Post by githcheater on Aug 16, 2024 3:30:53 GMT
They couldn’t even give her a tiny bit of cleavage? Budget cuts, man. Time for a juvenile comment. I going back 45 years to my teen years for this expression: More than a mouthful is a waste.
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Post by SomberXIII on Aug 16, 2024 4:05:52 GMT
Also going to point out do hope that music is in the game or indicitive. It sounds a bit generic like Two Steps From Hell tracks or similar. I don't think that's one of the official score.
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Post by SomberXIII on Aug 16, 2024 4:15:03 GMT
Hm... Emmrich as a strong white male char? Naah.. He looks like another cartoonish frail old man to me.... I prefer the realistic looks in DAi-DA2.
Sartoz. Being strong isn't just male physical strength.
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Post by necrowaif on Aug 16, 2024 4:19:18 GMT
More than a mouthful is a waste. Maybe, but I’ve got a really big mouth.
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