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Post by TheEmptyRoad on Sept 3, 2024 18:22:58 GMT
Given the early gameplay showcases and interviews have mentioned Faction Rankings and ‘building up’ the various factions in order to better aid us in our fight against [SPOILERS] and their [SPOILERS]; who will your Rook prioritize helping and why?
For me and my Rook (at least my first one), I will focus heavily on the Grey Wardens, both for nostalgia’s sake, but also for…necessary reasons in my opinion; given what seems to be occurring.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 3, 2024 19:14:24 GMT
Either Grey Wardens or Veil Jumpers, probably, since they seem most pertinent to overall issues. Maybe Shadow Dragons. Since my character will be a Lord of Fortune, they might try to call in whatever contacts are available to them.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Sept 3, 2024 19:30:57 GMT
Given my first Rook will be a warden it'll b eGre yWardens but I thin kmost of at least my early Rooks will likely mainly support the faction they are part of. Rook' slater on may depen don how I choose to RP them.
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Post by sni2 on Sept 3, 2024 19:56:41 GMT
I won't be able to play this game in the first run without being a warden. I still feel like a Grey Warden at heart and I need to stop the blight as one.
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Post by Little Bengel on Sept 3, 2024 20:16:03 GMT
Can't know for sure until I play the game.
That said, my first Rook is gonna be from the Mourn Watch, so I'd assume that'd be up there, at least for a first playthrough.
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Post by kotoreffect3 on Sept 3, 2024 20:30:58 GMT
I feel like the Wardens and the Veil Jumpers will be best equipped to handle this threat.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 4, 2024 2:36:16 GMT
Honestly, I think most Rooks will give their own faction priority. My Dalish elf rogue will be from the Veil Jumpers, and she will empower this faction first. By coincidence, it does seem like ancient elven history and artifacts may help with the current crisis.
Obviously, the Grey Wardens seem like the natural second best priority under the circumstances.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 4, 2024 8:25:55 GMT
I still don't know enough about some of these factions. I'm guessing the Veil Jumpers are going to be critical to defeating the gods because of their access to ancient elven artifacts but I still don't know the motivation driving them to do this. They didn't even know Fen'Harel was back in the Missing so why did the Dalish clans start heading north in the first place? Strife seems to have been a major player in establishing the Veil Jumpers. He has a strange name for a city elf, far more like the common translation of his ancient elven name, and I've never bought the idea that he was just a normal city elf on the run from the authorities when he attached himself to Irelin's clan. The Crows maintained to Harding and Varric in the Missing that the magic had always been weird up in Arlathan Forest. Well, it didn't seem that weird in Three Trees to Midnight, just that there were ancient forest guardians that might be aroused, just like in the caves on Sundermount, because it was an ancient elven site. According to Ruins of Reality the weirdness only began much more recently, when a book in the possession of Strife's clan simultaneously started to rewrite itself. So, was that due to the activity of Solas or someone else? In that story the weirdness stopped when they recovered an ancient statue dedicated to Ghilan'nain. Solas was apparently moving the gods to a different prison because the seals on the original one were weakening. So, was Ghil already influencing things in Arlathan before she escaped? Let us not forget there was another interested group in the plans of the Wolf and that is the Executors. We originally thought the Veil Jumpers might be connected to them because of the triangles and the Executors might be connected to Ghilan'nain because of the briny smell from their representative. Everyone seems to have forgotten about them. If they do have any connection with the Veil Jumpers, do we really want to power them up further? I'm joining the Veil Jumpers on the basis that Rook heard about them and was suspicious of their motives, so joined up as a self appointed spy to discover more. Once I know some more about the faction, then I'll decide how much I want to empower them. I also hope it will allow me to prevent them doing something stupid with the relics they have discovered even it it turns out that they are totally independent of any other nefarious group or god. As for the Wardens, whilst it would seem a good idea to boost them because of their opposition to the Blight, we should never forget how they were compromised by Corypheus because of the taint within them. So, obviously help them so long as they seem free of any coercive control but always stay vigilant to potential corruption. The same goes for practically every other faction. Each could have a potential weakness that is exploited by the enemy. So, I will probably help more on the basis of my companion's recommendation than any loyalty might feel for them myself.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 4, 2024 8:35:30 GMT
Grey Wardens and Shadow Dragons. Then perhaps Veil Jumpers, and the rest pretty much even.
I wonder if players will also prioritize based on who they romance... 'cause I'll be like, sorry, bruv. Don't like your buddies that much, and I'm the protagonist, so shut up.
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Post by Ice-Quinn on Sept 4, 2024 8:40:02 GMT
I won't be able to play this game in the first run without being a warden. I still feel like a Grey Warden at heart and I need to stop the blight as one. Don't we all? Yeah. I'm a sucker for anything GW, as well.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 4, 2024 10:30:51 GMT
What a fun question especially given my first Rook. He is someone who really one has to go out and earn his trust. He tends to be very skeptical of new people and situations until they demonstrate that they are...resonably well behaved. That being said I honestly think he'll be the most interested in the Veil Jumpers first. I know a lot of people are suggesting the Grey Wardens as a possible anti Elven gods task force given what is going on but I don't trust their connection to the Blight given things and I am sure he can reach the same connection as I do. Meanwhile the Veil Jumpers seem directly interested in hunting down ancient lore and artefacts which I am sure is going to be vital in trying to stop them in the end and learning about the enemy is a good way to do that, they seem to be the only one interested. Aside from that his sort of association with the Shadow Dragons will probably be a draw and their anti Venatori objectives...as long as there is no funny business going on.
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Post by azarhal on Sept 4, 2024 11:12:42 GMT
I was thinking starting with a Mourn Watcher, so that's probably the faction I'll priorize, but in practices it's probably going to be whatever I'm doing at the moment king of thing.
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Post by themikefest on Sept 4, 2024 11:31:54 GMT
Lords of Fortune. Once built up, my rook will use those resources to payoff potential support to overthrow the other factions. The factions that surrender will have the choice to join the new empire or be left to their fate.
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Post by ewigDunkelheit on Sept 5, 2024 2:59:46 GMT
My Dalish elf rogue will be from the Veil Jumpers, and she will empower this faction first. My elf may end up as a city warrior that will boost the Mourn Watch instead, but I feel like the Veil Jumpers and the Mourn Watch will be my Rook's priority. Knowledge will be this Veilguard's power.
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Post by gervaise21 on Sept 5, 2024 7:54:54 GMT
I changed my vote, along with my Rook, but my original point stands. Most Rooks will probably support their faction first. Quite possibly but after that perhaps we will have to focus on the faction associated with our specialism. There has to be a reason why they deliberately linked specialisms to factions this game when they have never done so before. This could also explain why the Mourn Watch, Crows and Lords of Fortune got two factions associated with them (which in the case of the Crows and Spellblade doesn't make any sense lore wise) because they could come up with narrative reasons for integrating extra plot elements associated with your specialism which weren't possible with the other three. Or possibly the Grey Wardens, Veil Jumpers and Shadow Dragons have other extra narrative elements to balance this out which couldn't be linked specifically to a specialism.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 5, 2024 8:00:42 GMT
I changed my vote, along with my Rook, but my original point stands. Most Rooks will probably support their faction first. Quite possibly but after that perhaps we will have to focus on the faction associated with our specialism. There has to be a reason why they deliberately linked specialisms to factions this game when they have never done so before. This could also explain why the Mourn Watch, Crows and Lords of Fortune got two factions associated with them (which in the case of the Crows and Spellblade doesn't make any sense lore wise) because they could come up with narrative reasons for integrating extra plot elements associated with your specialism which weren't possible with the other three. Or possibly the Grey Wardens, Veil Jumpers and Shadow Dragons have other extra narrative elements to balance this out which couldn't be linked specifically to a specialism. Shadow Dragons, Grey Wardens, and Veil Jumpers seem most overtly linked with the overarching plot. So if you’re right and unlocking specialization is tied to a faction quest, it could be way of balancing out impact of each faction.
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Post by colfoley on Sept 5, 2024 8:08:24 GMT
Quite possibly but after that perhaps we will have to focus on the faction associated with our specialism. There has to be a reason why they deliberately linked specialisms to factions this game when they have never done so before. This could also explain why the Mourn Watch, Crows and Lords of Fortune got two factions associated with them (which in the case of the Crows and Spellblade doesn't make any sense lore wise) because they could come up with narrative reasons for integrating extra plot elements associated with your specialism which weren't possible with the other three. Or possibly the Grey Wardens, Veil Jumpers and Shadow Dragons have other extra narrative elements to balance this out which couldn't be linked specifically to a specialism. Shadow Dragons, Grey Wardens, and Veil Jumpers seem most overtly linked with the overarching plot. So if you’re right and unlocking specialization is tied to a faction quest, it could be way of balancing out impact of each faction. I really don't know about this in general. Right now we have seen them through marketing and assumptions are being made based on the things we do know. But right now the Antivan Crows seem to also be involved against the Venatori and the Qunari, plus we seem to have seen Ghil running around in Antiva as well. The Mourn Watch has some really big weirdness going on as well. And the Lords of Fortune also have reference to something going on with sea monsters in Rivan...many theorize as being related to Ghil as well. So it is very likely that each one of the factions have some primary relevance to something going on with the main plot of stopping the gods combined with having a significant antagonist faction facing them. Afterall given a few things it would seem Elgar'nan might be releated to Tevinter, potentially the Venatori, and the Mortalatassi.
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Post by illuminated11 on Sept 5, 2024 8:26:47 GMT
Shadow Dragons, Grey Wardens, and Veil Jumpers seem most overtly linked with the overarching plot. So if you’re right and unlocking specialization is tied to a faction quest, it could be way of balancing out impact of each faction. I really don't know about this in general. Right now we have seen them through marketing and assumptions are being made based on the things we do know. But right now the Antivan Crows seem to also be involved against the Venatori and the Qunari, plus we seem to have seen Ghil running around in Antiva as well. The Mourn Watch has some really big weirdness going on as well. And the Lords of Fortune also have reference to something going on with sea monsters in Rivan...many theorize as being related to Ghil as well. So it is very likely that each one of the factions have some primary relevance to something going on with the main plot of stopping the gods combined with having a significant antagonist faction facing them. Afterall given a few things it would seem Elgar'nan might be releated to Tevinter, potentially the Venatori, and the Mortalatassi. Yeah, true. Elgarnan is still a big mystery in general. And I’m intrigued by consistent connection to water Ghilannain has, although Arlathan Forest is also right next to the ocean. So it could still impact Veil Jumpers the most. I was just considering possibilities if specializations really are related to their factions beyond ‘this is where these techniques originated.’
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Post by jrpN7 on Sept 14, 2024 5:25:57 GMT
The three that I waffle between are:
Shadow Dragons: A show-down with corrupt Venatori sounds really fun. Hopefully we can end slavery in Tevinter while we're at it. Grey Wardens: Their values speaks to me. Honor and bravery facing horrible darkspawn to protect the weak also strikes a chord with me. Although, I do feel I got this experience already in DA:O. Lords of Fortune: They sound the most care-free and liberated to do as they please. This could be a nice change of pace, though I'm weary they may be a bit greedy and selfish.
As far as the others, they don't really feel my speed. Antivan Crows sound like an unhealthy cult that even Lucanis is trying to escape from. The Mourn Watch so far seem irrelevant and the Veil Jumpers... dig up old stuff?
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Post by Hrungr on Sept 14, 2024 5:46:45 GMT
Lords of Fortune. Once built up, my rook will use those resources to payoff potential support to overthrow the other factions. The factions that surrender will have the choice to join the new empire or be left to their fate. I like where you're going with this...
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Post by smilesja on Sept 14, 2024 5:55:35 GMT
I like the Lord of Fortune. It feels nice to be a random adventurer who just happened to be smack dabbed in the middle of a major conflict. It'll also be an excuse for Rook to be quippy like Sarcastic Hawke given the nature of the organization. XD
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Post by jediguardian on Sept 14, 2024 7:07:42 GMT
First will be my faction Second will be my lover faction. Because that is what lover for, support each other.
I barely know anything about Mourn watch though. How can they directly involve to this? Maybe old god try to corrupt the dead or something
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Post by theascendent on Sept 14, 2024 7:58:08 GMT
I think that Morrigan is assisting the Veil Jumpers in some fashion, so that is probably a good indication of how pivotal their help and involvement will be.
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Post by jadedragon on Sept 15, 2024 14:04:08 GMT
I feel like I still need more info on the factions to cast a fair vote. Hopefully we get a faction overview video to at least get a little more detail about the 6 factions from faction gear to their MO in game so I can fully decide who my Rook going with. Have seen next to nothing about Lords of Fortune during coverage
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Post by emissaryoflies on Sept 15, 2024 16:28:20 GMT
Has to be the Wardens. It’s where we started and I haven’t heard the calling yet. It was a mistake to move away from them. They are by far the most versatile and interesting faction in the series. Especially when it comes to morally gray issues. So much flexibility!
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