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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 22, 2017 16:05:04 GMT
With folks probably used to there being tension over "SJW" agenda, I bet my posting about believing (and honestly hoping for) Cora to be trans is seen as shitpost troll behavior.
I actually do look forward to and want this, and am genuinely establishing my headcanon.
Edit - This isn't trolling, I'm being sincere
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Post by CrutchCricket on Feb 22, 2017 16:12:22 GMT
I doubt Cora is trans. Though the reactions would be interesting...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 16:16:17 GMT
Yep, there is absolutely no indication of her being trans.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 22, 2017 16:17:03 GMT
I doubt Cora is trans. Though the reactions would be interesting... I'll step back, buy several bags of popcorn, and enjoy the...show. I agree with your point in any case.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 22, 2017 16:18:33 GMT
With folks probably used to there being tension over "SJW" agenda, I bet my posting about believing (and honestly hoping for) Cora to be trans is seen as shitpost troll behavior. I actually do look forward to and want this, and am genuinely establishing my headcanon. Edit - This isn't trolling, I'm being sincere Eh, shinobi said on Gaf that Bioware took inspiration of more then side quests in TW3, about nudity and such stuff. Cora's scene is also supposed to be pretty intense based on what devs hinted, so I think there are chances there'll be little left to headcanon.
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 22, 2017 16:19:28 GMT
With folks probably used to there being tension over "SJW" agenda, I bet my posting about believing (and honestly hoping for) Cora to be trans is seen as shitpost troll behavior. I actually do look forward to and want this, and am genuinely establishing my headcanon. Edit - This isn't trolling, I'm being sincere Is this the same thing as when someone made a thread about Jien? I don't think she is but anyway, We will see in less than a month.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 22, 2017 16:21:35 GMT
Eh, shinobi said on Gaf that Bioware took inspiration of more then side quests in TW3, about nudity and such stuff. Cora's scene is also supposed to be pretty intense based on what devs hinted, so I think there are chances there'll be little left to headcanon. Intense, no ambiguity is definitely great news to me as is inspiration from TW3.
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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 22, 2017 16:22:21 GMT
She appears to have some latent masculine features to me, with her shoulders and jaw.
I would hope they would integrate a trans character more passable like this instead of trying to play off awkward crossdressing like was available in AC: Syndicate (though I did like how they just treated him like a regular NPC instead of trying to make it a whole thing (at least from what I seen, I didn't finish it))
I think it'd make sense for hormone therapy and the like to be better in the future anyways.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 16:22:33 GMT
With folks probably used to there being tension over "SJW" agenda, I bet my posting about believing (and honestly hoping for) Cora to be trans is seen as shitpost troll behavior. I actually do look forward to and want this, and am genuinely establishing my headcanon. Edit - This isn't trolling, I'm being sincere Is this the same thing as when someone made a thread about Jien? I don't think she is but anyway, We will see in less than a month. She will have both parts to satisfy everyone
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Post by sgtsteel91 on Feb 22, 2017 16:22:52 GMT
I kind of hope a kind of realtionship you can have with Cora is "the cool big sister I never had"
She is older than the Ryder twins, or have they not revealed that yet?
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Post by hammerstorm on Feb 22, 2017 16:24:33 GMT
Is this the same thing as when someone made a thread about Jien? I don't think she is but anyway, We will see in less than a month. She will have both parts to satisfy everyone So it is confirmed that Cora is a Li for both Ryders? And maybe Peebee is interested in her.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 16:25:23 GMT
I kind of hope a kind of realtionship you can have with Cora is "the cool big sister I never had" She is older than the Ryder twins, or have they not revealed that yet? I think in terms of looks it's obvious she's older; although, some have exaggerated things a bit. No, they have not confirmed her age though, when asked it was replied with being a spoiler.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 22, 2017 16:26:38 GMT
She appears to have some latent masculine features to me, with her shoulders and jaw. I would hope they would integrate a trans character more passable like this instead of trying to play off awkward crossdressing like was available in AC: Syndicate (though I did like how they just treated him like a regular NPC instead of trying to make it a whole thing (at least from what I seen, I didn't finish it)) I think it'd make sense for hormone therapy and the like to be better in the future anyways. There are women with those shoulders and jaw though (which I don't think it's that prominent either way) Regardless, even if she is trans, she's unlikely to be pre-op, since with the technology they have it'd be easy to complete the process quite easily. Considering Bioware, I also doubt they wouldn't announce it beforehand, considering she's one of the major characters in the game.
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 22, 2017 16:27:31 GMT
I kind of hope a kind of realtionship you can have with Cora is "the cool big sister I never had" She is older than the Ryder twins, or have they not revealed that yet? I think in terms of looks it's obvious she's older; although, some have exaggerated things a bit. No, they have not confirmed her age though, when asked it was replied with being a spoiler. I wonder why. The only way I can think of is she's really TIM's daughter.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 16:28:25 GMT
She appears to have some latent masculine features to me, with her shoulders and jaw. I would hope they would integrate a trans character more passable like this instead of trying to play off awkward crossdressing like was available in AC: Syndicate (though I did like how they just treated him like a regular NPC instead of trying to make it a whole thing (at least from what I seen, I didn't finish it)) I think it'd make sense for hormone therapy and the like to be better in the future anyways. There are women with those shoulders and jaw though (which I don't think it's that prominent either way) Regardless, even if she is trans, she's unlikely to be pre-op, since with the technology they have it'd be easy to complete the process quite easily. Considering Bioware, I also doubt they wouldn't announce it beforehand, considering she's one of the major characters in the game. Yeah, the sjw whiners will get a complete boost if Bioware had a trans character in that role in their games and didn't inform the player till the sex scene. They would have said it beforehand to avoid backlash.
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Post by PermTrouble on Feb 22, 2017 16:31:05 GMT
She appears to have some latent masculine features to me, with her shoulders and jaw. I would hope they would integrate a trans character more passable like this instead of trying to play off awkward crossdressing like was available in AC: Syndicate (though I did like how they just treated him like a regular NPC instead of trying to make it a whole thing (at least from what I seen, I didn't finish it)) I think it'd make sense for hormone therapy and the like to be better in the future anyways. There are women with those shoulders and jaw though (which I don't think it's that prominent either way) Regardless, even if she is trans, she's unlikely to be pre-op, since with the technology they have it'd be easy to complete the process quite easily. Considering Bioware, I also doubt they wouldn't announce it beforehand, considering she's one of the major characters in the game. While this process for "full" transformation is possible, it isn't uncommon for people to keep their lower wards intact. Though, obviously you're right and these features can also exist in trad women, and I could be completely wrong. I would think she presents a good opportunity to integrate a bad ass trans character within the main story, and am hopeful for it.
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Post by wright1978 on Feb 22, 2017 16:36:25 GMT
There are women with those shoulders and jaw though (which I don't think it's that prominent either way) Regardless, even if she is trans, she's unlikely to be pre-op, since with the technology they have it'd be easy to complete the process quite easily. Considering Bioware, I also doubt they wouldn't announce it beforehand, considering she's one of the major characters in the game. Yeah don't think her jaws prominent nor do i think her slightly more muscular shoulders are out of place on a female soldier. Be amazed if she's anything other than a 100% natural woman.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 16:38:56 GMT
Jay Bates@ryder3317 does Cora Harper have a face model? Or was her facial features pure creation?
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon She has a face model.
No reveal...interesting. Guess they are keeping it secret. Asked Ian Frazier this a couple days ago except I asked who her face model was and he didn't reply.
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Post by mikaelnovasun on Feb 22, 2017 17:00:15 GMT
Speaking of sex scenes, I hope they don't occur right before the stories climax. As much as I like some of the Mass Effect romances I hate the "we could die, lets have sex" trope. It would be nice if they occur naturally within the romance. In Cora's case I could see multiple sex scenes since she is hinted at being a bit of a freak in the romance department. Damn it!! Now I have images of "biotic bondage" in my head....after thinking what her being a bit freaky could mean.
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Post by luke on Feb 22, 2017 17:01:44 GMT
There are women with those shoulders and jaw though (which I don't think it's that prominent either way) Regardless, even if she is trans, she's unlikely to be pre-op, since with the technology they have it'd be easy to complete the process quite easily. Considering Bioware, I also doubt they wouldn't announce it beforehand, considering she's one of the major characters in the game. Yeah don't think her jaws prominent nor do i think her slightly more muscular shoulders are out of place on a female soldier. Be amazed if she's anything other than a 100% natural woman. If plastic surgery in the MEU is at such a level where it's believable that Javik was actually just a Turian with modifications, I see no reason as to why a trans woman should be distinguishable at all from someone who was born female. I honestly couldn't care less if Cora is trans or not. If she isn't then that's fine, and if she is then that's a great step forward in terms of representation for trans people. Let the "anti-SJW" crew kick off if they want to, their claims are pretty absurd anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 17:03:51 GMT
I wonder the reason for keeping the face model a secret. I suppose they will tell us at some point. Cora a trans....lmao if that happen this forum will need that swearing jar they mentioned in ME3 with Jack. I suspect that would annoy a great deal of people and thus reinforcing the stereotype about BW being a bunch of SJWs. I personally don't care, it's their characters and they can do whatever they like but I really don't understand why they would want even more problem.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 17:05:46 GMT
Yeah don't think her jaws prominent nor do i think her slightly more muscular shoulders are out of place on a female soldier. Be amazed if she's anything other than a 100% natural woman. If plastic surgery in the MEU is at such a level where it's believable that Javik was actually just a Turian with modifications, I see no reason as to why a trans woman should be distinguishable at all from someone who was born female. I honestly couldn't care less if Cora is trans or not. If she isn't then that's fine, and if she is then that's a great step forward in terms of representation for trans people. Let the "anti-SJW" crew kick off if they want to, their claims are pretty absurd anyway. Well, to be fair there are some who are uncomfortable with entering a relationship with a trans woman or trans man. Don't think many expects them to announce it as soon as they meet them, but when entering a romantic relationship, honesty is important no matter how believable the operation was (assuming the individual got one). Respecting preferences goes both ways. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Ocelot on Feb 22, 2017 17:07:36 GMT
With folks probably used to there being tension over "SJW" agenda, I bet my posting about believing (and honestly hoping for) Cora to be trans is seen as shitpost troll behavior. I actually do look forward to and want this, and am genuinely establishing my headcanon. Edit - This isn't trolling, I'm being sincere Eh, shinobi said on Gaf that Bioware took inspiration of more then side quests in TW3, about nudity and such stuff. Cora's scene is also supposed to be pretty intense based on what devs hinted, so I think there are chances there'll be little left to headcanon. Which raises the interesting question; since she likes to shave the sides of her head........
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Post by luke on Feb 22, 2017 17:09:45 GMT
If plastic surgery in the MEU is at such a level where it's believable that Javik was actually just a Turian with modifications, I see no reason as to why a trans woman should be distinguishable at all from someone who was born female. I honestly couldn't care less if Cora is trans or not. If she isn't then that's fine, and if she is then that's a great step forward in terms of representation for trans people. Let the "anti-SJW" crew kick off if they want to, their claims are pretty absurd anyway. Well, to be fair there are some who are uncomfortable with entering a relationship with a trans woman or trans man. Don't think many expects them to announce it as soon as they meet them, but when entering a romantic relationship, honesty is important no matter how believable the operation was (assuming the individual got one). Respecting preferences goes both ways. You're right, and I can completely understand if that's the case in the real world. It doesn't really matter in a video game though, at least I don't believe it does/ should.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2017 17:14:15 GMT
Well, to be fair there are some who are uncomfortable with entering a relationship with a trans woman or trans man. Don't think many expects them to announce it as soon as they meet them, but when entering a romantic relationship, honesty is important no matter how believable the operation was (assuming the individual got one). Respecting preferences goes both ways. You're right, and I can completely understand if that's the case in the real world. It doesn't really matter in a video game though, at least I don't believe it does/ should. You are right. it's a video game so it should not be a big deal, but Bioware prides themselves in the characters they make and how people can connect with them. Real world relationships are something that they can't help but take into account if they want to enhance the connection between players and the characters.
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