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Post by Crim on Apr 12, 2017 3:28:52 GMT
Really like Fryda too, she's great fun and I think she's done a fine job with this green PC but, Hale's femshep is panty drop voice, so... yeah. Both Vetra and FemShep had hot as hell voices. Vetra update* listening to her giving smack to Liam in the Nomad
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:29:21 GMT
I mean if you choose mostly left side sure but right? I don't really know what you mean.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 12, 2017 3:31:20 GMT
I mean if you choose mostly left side sure but right? I don't really know what you mean. I think he's just buying too much into weird redpill beta-alpha myths. Either he's just trying to rile someone up or he's genuinely projecting some weird shit onto his self-insert video game protagonist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:32:41 GMT
I actually like Scott's VA a lot more than MaleShep's VA, though Meer is actually pretty talented when given good direction. So far, though, I like FemShep's VA a little bit more than Sara's VA, but it's pretty close. Really hard to top femshep's voice, it's a voice that would make your panties drop. Well, mine anyway. Yes. Hale was just wonderful. but I would rather romance a woman like Shepard then be her. I like the Ryder I choose to be and I hope the dialogue options going forward (In MEA 2, if that comes to be or DLC) becomes more confident etc. I mean Ryder is 22 she/he isn't going to be a bad-ass war vet. That was who your dad was essentially. I don't think I would have liked Shepard/Vetra as much as I like Ryder/Vetra. I like the idea of Ryder being a little bit younger and more immature then her but still very capable at what they do. I think it works with the romance arc well.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 12, 2017 3:34:59 GMT
Really hard to top femshep's voice, it's a voice that would make your panties drop. Well, mine anyway. Yes. Hale was just wonderful. but I would rather romance a woman like Shepard then be her. I like the Ryder I choose to be and I hope the dialogue options going forward (In MEA 2, if that comes to be or DLC) becomes more confident etc. I mean Ryder is 22 she/he isn't going to be a bad-ass war vet. That was who your dad was essentially. I don't think I would have liked Shepard/Vetra as much as I like Ryder/Vetra. I like the idea of Ryder being a little bit younger and more immature then her but still very capable at what they do. I think it works with the romance arc well. This is a really interesting way of looking at it.
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Post by Karvarn on Apr 12, 2017 3:41:12 GMT
For me Sara is more direct and Scott more smooth talker in the romance but this is just for me and I only saw the first scenes of Sara/Vetra on youtube since I do not play Sara So you can correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:41:20 GMT
Yes. Hale was just wonderful. but I would rather romance a woman like Shepard then be her. I like the Ryder I choose to be and I hope the dialogue options going forward (In MEA 2, if that comes to be or DLC) becomes more confident etc. I mean Ryder is 22 she/he isn't going to be a bad-ass war vet. That was who your dad was essentially. I don't think I would have liked Shepard/Vetra as much as I like Ryder/Vetra. I like the idea of Ryder being a little bit younger and more immature then her but still very capable at what they do. I think it works with the romance arc well. This is a really interesting way of looking at it. I think the merc dynamic works better with Shepard. I'm an old man (30) so maybe I don't care as much about the youth angle.
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Post by MisterMr. on Apr 12, 2017 3:42:58 GMT
I mean if you choose mostly left side sure but right? I don't really know what you mean. I think he's just buying too much into weird redpill beta-alpha myths. Either he's just trying to rile someone up or he's genuinely projecting some weird shit onto his self-insert video game protagonist. I just think replaying the Trilogy right before playing Andromeda made me expect the PC to idk, be more confident? I get why Ryder is so unsure of themselves, being young and thrust into a leadership role with no qualities suited for it. Maybe if we play as Ryder in the sequel and they've adapted to the role of leader I'll like him/her better.
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Post by Crim on Apr 12, 2017 3:43:06 GMT
Really hard to top femshep's voice, it's a voice that would make your panties drop. Well, mine anyway. Yes. Hale was just wonderful. but I would rather romance a woman like Shepard then be her. I like the Ryder I choose to be and I hope the dialogue options going forward (In MEA 2, if that comes to be or DLC) becomes more confident etc. I mean Ryder is 22 she/he isn't going to be a bad-ass war vet. That was who your dad was essentially. I don't think I would have liked Shepard/Vetra as much as I like Ryder/Vetra. I like the idea of Ryder being a little bit younger and more immature then her but still very capable at what they do. I think it works with the romance arc well.I think pretty much anyone would want to romance Shep, Shep is insanely attractive. I'm early days with the Vetra romance but I'm RPin a smartarse/not taking things that srsly Sara, can just imagine Vetra's constant eyeball rolling in the background.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:44:21 GMT
I think he's just buying too much into weird redpill beta-alpha myths. Either he's just trying to rile someone up or he's genuinely projecting some weird shit onto his self-insert video game protagonist. I just think replaying the Trilogy right before playing Andromeda made me expect the PC to idk, be more confident? I get why Ryder is so unsure of themselves, being young and thrust into a leadership role with no qualities suited for it. Maybe if we play as Ryder in the sequel and they've adapted to the role of leader I'll like him/her better. I think if the way Ryder became a pathfinder was done differently it wouldn't be so jarring.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:46:13 GMT
I'm trying not to compare this game to the OT but it's impossible with all the blatant reference they have.
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Post by Vall on Apr 12, 2017 3:46:17 GMT
This is a really interesting way of looking at it. I think the merc dynamic works better with Shepard. I'm an old man (30) so maybe I don't care as much about the youth angle. 30 is old? Since when? I mean if you choose mostly left side sure but right? I don't really know what you mean. I think he's just buying too much into weird redpill beta-alpha myths. Either he's just trying to rile someone up or he's genuinely projecting some weird shit onto his self-insert video game protagonist. I can't help but roll my eyes when I read this alpha/beta nonsense
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 12, 2017 3:47:43 GMT
I think he's just buying too much into weird redpill beta-alpha myths. Either he's just trying to rile someone up or he's genuinely projecting some weird shit onto his self-insert video game protagonist. I just think replaying the Trilogy right before playing Andromeda made me expect the PC to idk, be more confident? I get why Ryder is so unsure of themselves, being young and thrust into a leadership role with no qualities suited for it. Maybe if we play as Ryder in the sequel and they've adapted to the role of leader I'll like him/her better. My interpretation - which could be wrong but- is that, unlike Shepard, Ryder is young and less experienced. He didn't have as many opportunities as Shepard to prove himself because of what happened with his Dad. Another factor is that, in most backgrounds for Shepard, there's either an element of tragedy or ruthlessness, so there's reason for him to be harder in personality. Meanwhile, Ryder definitely has some tragedy in his background, but it's not to the extreme level that Shepard can experience even before the trilogy. As time goes along, Scott Ryder is growing into his role as the hero. Maybe he won't be exactly like Shepard, since he's not Shepard, but I think we should get more experiences that harden him as time goes along, if he play as Ryder again. (Same goes for Sara, btw)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:50:33 GMT
I just think replaying the Trilogy right before playing Andromeda made me expect the PC to idk, be more confident? I get why Ryder is so unsure of themselves, being young and thrust into a leadership role with no qualities suited for it. Maybe if we play as Ryder in the sequel and they've adapted to the role of leader I'll like him/her better. My interpretation - which could be wrong but- is that, unlike Shepard, Ryder is young and less experienced. He didn't have as many opportunities as Shepard to prove himself because of what happened with his Dad. Another factor is that, in most backgrounds for Shepard, there's either an element of tragedy or ruthlessness, so there's reason for him to be harder in personality. Meanwhile, Ryder definitely has some tragedy in his background, but it's not to the extreme level that Shepard can experience even before the trilogy. As time goes along, Scott Ryder is growing into his role as the hero. Maybe he won't be exactly like Shepard, since he's not Shepard, but I think we should get more experiences that harden him as time goes along, if he play as Ryder again. (Same goes for Sara, btw) It's funny we are saying this without even knowing if Ryder is the main character/if there will even be another game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:51:04 GMT
I think the merc dynamic works better with Shepard. I'm an old man (30) so maybe I don't care as much about the youth angle. 30 is old? Since when? I think he's just buying too much into weird redpill beta-alpha myths. Either he's just trying to rile someone up or he's genuinely projecting some weird shit onto his self-insert video game protagonist. I can't help but roll my eyes when I read this alpha/beta nonsense When you back to college at 30 it's old lol.
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Post by MisterMr. on Apr 12, 2017 3:52:26 GMT
I just think replaying the Trilogy right before playing Andromeda made me expect the PC to idk, be more confident? I get why Ryder is so unsure of themselves, being young and thrust into a leadership role with no qualities suited for it. Maybe if we play as Ryder in the sequel and they've adapted to the role of leader I'll like him/her better. My interpretation - which could be wrong but- is that, unlike Shepard, Ryder is young and less experienced. He didn't have as many opportunities as Shepard to prove himself because of what happened with his Dad. Another factor is that, in most backgrounds for Shepard, there's either an element of tragedy or ruthlessness, so there's reason for him to be harder in personality. Meanwhile, Ryder definitely has some tragedy in his background, but it's not to the extreme level that Shepard can experience even before the trilogy. As time goes along, Scott Ryder is growing into his role as the hero. Maybe he won't be exactly like Shepard, since he's not Shepard, but I think we should get more experiences that harden him as time goes along, if he play as Ryder again. (Same goes for Sara, btw) The dialogue choices need to be better as well. Every-time I read a choice and select it, Ryder says almost the exact opposite of that response. Fallout 4 also had this problem, but mods fixed that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:53:00 GMT
If Ryder isn't the mc I wonder how they will handle the squad.
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Post by gaycaravaggio on Apr 12, 2017 3:54:38 GMT
My interpretation - which could be wrong but- is that, unlike Shepard, Ryder is young and less experienced. He didn't have as many opportunities as Shepard to prove himself because of what happened with his Dad. Another factor is that, in most backgrounds for Shepard, there's either an element of tragedy or ruthlessness, so there's reason for him to be harder in personality. Meanwhile, Ryder definitely has some tragedy in his background, but it's not to the extreme level that Shepard can experience even before the trilogy. As time goes along, Scott Ryder is growing into his role as the hero. Maybe he won't be exactly like Shepard, since he's not Shepard, but I think we should get more experiences that harden him as time goes along, if he play as Ryder again. (Same goes for Sara, btw) The dialogue choices need to be better as well. Every-time I read a choice and select it, Ryder says almost the exact opposite of that response. Fallout 4 also had this problem, but mods fixed that. It seems to be a consistent issue in Bioware games. I've had this issue in DA2, DA:I, the ME trilogy, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 3:55:26 GMT
Yes. Hale was just wonderful. but I would rather romance a woman like Shepard then be her. I like the Ryder I choose to be and I hope the dialogue options going forward (In MEA 2, if that comes to be or DLC) becomes more confident etc. I mean Ryder is 22 she/he isn't going to be a bad-ass war vet. That was who your dad was essentially. I don't think I would have liked Shepard/Vetra as much as I like Ryder/Vetra. I like the idea of Ryder being a little bit younger and more immature then her but still very capable at what they do. I think it works with the romance arc well.I think pretty much anyone would want to romance Shep, Shep is insanely attractive. I'm early days with the Vetra romance but I'm RPin a smartarse/not taking things that srsly Sara, can just imagine Vetra's constant eyeball rolling in the background. I played it mostly professional/emotional Ryder. She came off as pretty smart and good at what she did but showed a little bit of inexperience and that "Ryder says stupid sh*t" streak that I think every Ryder has a bit of in the default dialogue. Even though Vetra needs some attention for herself and some love from Ryder. She is also a care-giver. I like the idea of her taking care of Ryder a bit, watching their back. For me Sara is more direct and Scott more smooth talker in the romance but this is just for me and I only saw the first scenes of Sara/Vetra on youtube since I do not play Sara So you can correct me if I am wrong. Overall I thought Sara came off as really confident and smooth in the flirts. I have only seen a bit of Scotts so I am the opposite of you.
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Post by MisterMr. on Apr 12, 2017 3:57:39 GMT
The dialogue choices need to be better as well. Every-time I read a choice and select it, Ryder says almost the exact opposite of that response. Fallout 4 also had this problem, but mods fixed that. It seems to be a consistent issue in Bioware games. I've had this issue in DA2, DA:I, the ME trilogy, etc. I think it was a mistake getting rid of Paragon/Renegade. That was the one time in Bioware games where you KINDA knew what you were gonna say.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 4:00:30 GMT
It seems to be a consistent issue in Bioware games. I've had this issue in DA2, DA:I, the ME trilogy, etc. I think it was a mistake getting rid of Paragon/Renegade. That was the one time in Bioware games where you KINDA knew what you were gonna say. I miss the renegade interrupts man. Nothing like pushing a guy out of a window in this game.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 4:02:03 GMT
It seems to be a consistent issue in Bioware games. I've had this issue in DA2, DA:I, the ME trilogy, etc. I think it was a mistake getting rid of Paragon/Renegade. That was the one time in Bioware games where you KINDA knew what you were gonna say. They were pretty much there but disguised. Blowing up the kett facility, shooting the contagion, shooting Peebee's ex girly... I feel like I was pretty close to renegade but I told myself I was doing it for the greater good and just didn't have a big flashing red button telling me I was an a-hole. Some of the trigger responses were a gamble but they always were. I'm still not sure if it is better to hug her or not in the end. I liked both versions but I guess the hug was better...
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Post by Vall on Apr 12, 2017 4:05:13 GMT
I think it was a mistake getting rid of Paragon/Renegade. That was the one time in Bioware games where you KINDA knew what you were gonna say. I miss the renegade interrupts man. Nothing like pushing a guy out of a window in this game. "I have nothing to tell you." "How 'bout goodbye" I can't not do it, even in most paragon of playthroughs
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Post by Crim on Apr 12, 2017 4:11:39 GMT
I think pretty much anyone would want to romance Shep, Shep is insanely attractive. I'm early days with the Vetra romance but I'm RPin a smartarse/not taking things that srsly Sara, can just imagine Vetra's constant eyeball rolling in the background. I played it mostly professional/emotional Ryder. She came off as pretty smart and good at what she did but showed a little bit of inexperience and that "Ryder says stupid sh*t" streak that I think every Ryder has a bit of in the default dialogue. Even though Vetra needs some attention for herself and some love from Ryder. She is also a care-giver. I like the idea of her taking care of Ryder a bit, watching their back. My first Sara, who romanced Peebs was a more serious/logical/emotional now and again type. Thought that dynamic was interesting with her, she kinda bounces off Ryder with her bubbly energy and much later again if u play your cards right. :dirty:
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Post by Karvarn on Apr 12, 2017 4:12:38 GMT
For me Sara is more direct and Scott more smooth talker in the romance but this is just for me and I only saw the first scenes of Sara/Vetra on youtube since I do not play Sara So you can correct me if I am wrong. Overall I thought Sara came off as really confident and smooth in the flirts. I have only seen a bit of Scotts so I am the opposite of you. I have played Scott as emotional/casual for me, he was also confident and smooth with Vetra I believe only the first flirts are different for both, it is really in the eye of the beholder Hm i have to look at the Sara/Vetra romance on youtube because as I said I do not play as Sara and maybe never will.
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