'Ugly characters?' thread

It was the same, arguably, in the trilogy though. Sheploo was better looking. They still made some attractive women.
They shown a female turian.
edit: the pics didn't load for me. I posted my reply on my follow up post.

Anecdotal evidence and your preferences aren't an argument. 

I guess hundreds of comments and posts on various sites saying they're ugly aren't an argument either. If there wasn't any problem such thread wouldn't be started, neither would ones that arose when DA:I came out. Short haired women are what MINORITY of men find attractive, it's a damn fact. Go to any website that hosts some attractive females ranking and find me short haired female in top 10. And by short haired I don't mean chin-length, but actually short. There will be none, because it doesn't appeal to most men. Then why when there are only two female LIs for men did they make one short-haired, while making the other a bland character, with a Disney-style romance no less. The agenda is clear, whether you believe it or not. Especially when Cullen is a model-looking LI for females.

That said DA:I was bad when it comes to characters overall. Lesbians were just as fucked as we were.

Considering their initial romances for straight women and gay men were Bull and Dorian, which was plently criticized, I disagree. It was just luck they got time extension and decided to make more romances.

It doesn't matter how many posts there are, if the argument is based on aesthetic preference it's not an objective argument. And you're still using anecdotal evidence, which is just as worthless as the last time you used it. 

Of course threads can be started for stupid arguments, opinions and preferences. It happens all the time. 

Neither are a basis for legitimacy in making a point. 

The female romances from DA:I were so out-of-the-box and conventionally unattractive to most straight guys I really, honestly do not know what they were thinking or how they thought they would be appealing or give off a WOW factor. "Would you look at that short hair and broad, masculine jaw line guys would smash 10/10"

With Cullen and Dorian you could clearly see women and gays would be more attracted to them.

Back then when there was a big fuss over gay characters in Mass Effect and people were crying even though it was entirely optional I would say they were whining over something that merely just gave other players more freedom.


But with what's been coming out lately where the optional romances for straight guys are pretty unattractive I can see where people are coming from now.

Exactly. We're not asking to make LIs for gays/straight women worse, which was kind of what was happening with the fuss over gay characters. We're asking to make female LIs on par with them. When you only include two romance options for majority of playerbase, making one absolutely conventionally unnattractive is absurd, especially when the second's romance is written for 10 year olds.

God, I have a really hard time deducting whether you're acting like a retarad on purpose or not. You're seriously denying that there is universal beauty and disregard any arguments based on aesthetics.

Next thing you'll tell me is that statement "most men prefer women to have breasts" (as in have them at all, aka no any surigical removals for health reasons took place) is also not valid, because it's based on aesthetics. Wake up from your bubble and look at the world around you. When was the last time you've seen shampoo commercial showing short-haired woman? Or a hair spray commercial? There are certain looks that majority men will find attractive and what you're missing is that I don't assume majority's of men universal attractive female base, but that I assume mine based on said base. I know what most men find attractive and I deduct that I share their view, not the other way around.

Misspells retard. Pure win. 

Nitpicking. Pure win. That will show me /s. Nevermind the fact that it was accident because I obviously know how to write retard correctly, would you like to switch our conversation language to Polish or Russian? I'm sure you'd do absolutely great at using non-native language.

Glad you're still unable to provide solid counter-arguments by the way.

They exist partly as LI's, but they are character beyond that. Both male and female LI's. Even if you didn't romance Liara she was your friend- even if you really didn't want to be her friend lol. So character needs to be character with solid character design, story, etc. and not just sexual fantasy in character form. Otherwise that character wouldn't work for those not romancing her. If game build characters like you said then it'd be better if those characters were restricted to brothels.

In terms of straight women. There is no very fat man's true, but I wouldn't say men like Garrus are what comes first to mind for straight women when they think their ideal type look-wise. Sometimes personality is what rules over. Same with Iron Bull, Solas, Blackwall, not exactly models, right? Some people like their looks, some like other stuff about them Although sometimes you hear straight women say stuff like: he looks like Voldemort (Solas) or "he's ugly" (for any character)- you don't see people starting threads and going on and on about it demanding to get models to romance. Cause that would be.. bit vain.

You're just strengthening my argument, not yours. You're the one posing as a universal arbiter of physical beauty.