'Ugly characters?' thread

Hmm, I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that my first reaction to the companion reveal for DAI was "wow, they ALL look terrible". I believe those were even artwork pictures that were supposed to look BETTER than in-game. Some characters I ended up finding quite hot (Dorian) after playing a while, especially in combination with their personality, but except for Cullen none of them were "conventionally beautiful" to me.

I do understand where readher is coming from. I don't think his opinion is crazy at all. I know several people (among them women) who agree that the DAI characters were not all that attractive. Calling them" ugly" is ridiculous hyperbole but "not really hot" I agree on. Whether or not that is so very terrible is a different matter. But as a simple observation, it's not unfounded imo.

So I actually do agree that the art design of the companions was... unusual. While I do not find Cassandra and Josie (or Sera for that matter) ugly, I could TOTALLY understand why men were less than happy. And when I first saw Peebee I actually thought "oh boy, here we go again". She and Sara are again NOT ugly but they are not Liara or ME1 Ashley. And I don't really understand why people get so defensive about it. Women like hot guys too. It's human nature!

Whatever the hell is going on with character faces I call the DAI Effect from now on. Until I've seen all squadmates I cannot tell if there's a SJW agenda at work or if there's just something seriously wrong with Frostbite or the Bioware designers and animators. However, Morrigan looked GREAT, so it's not necessarily the claymation version of the trilogy's gorilla faces. That weird cartoon doll  look is definitely a new engine problem, though. It's probably what makes the faces look this weird. But oddly, it does seem to affect female faces way more. MAYBE it has to do with female faces being smoother and so it shows more? Or the fact that hair looked so bad they went with terrible short styles to "hide" it? Or that abomination of an outfit that Josie wears? I have no idea, really.

But if there is an agenda, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not about spiting men but about SOME female gamers feeling threatened. Or at least that could be what Bioware thinks. Cassandra is VERY popular with female players, is she not? I adore her too! I can totally see how DAI was not made for straight men. Which does NOT mean it was meant to punish them. Maybe Bioware felt like making a game for women and gay men for a change. Dorian's character flatters both gay men and straight women, perhaps again more so women. I too thought his flirty banter with female inquisitor was amazing. It was HOT. Nothing wrong with that once in a while.

There is probably no vile intention behind it. Unless of course all the guys  in MEA turn out to be super hot and all the women look more average girl next door. I still think EVERYONE but Morrigan and Cullen looked kind of weird and not particularly attractive in DAI. And yet the DAI companions ended up my favorite bunch in that franchise. Looks aren't everything. But wanting attractive love interests is nothing evil and should not be ridiculed by everyone imo. Women are just as shallow, they just get off on different things in addition to looks, see Solas.

This thread is scary.

Hmm, I'm going to play devil's advocate here and say that my first reaction to the companion reveal for DAI was "wow, they ALL look terrible". I believe those were even artwork pictures that were supposed to look BETTER than in-game. Some characters I ended up finding quite hot (Dorian) after playing a while, especially in combination with their personality, but except for Cullen none of them were "conventionally beautiful" to me.

I do understand where readher is coming from. I don't think his opinion is crazy at all. I know several people (among them women) who agree that the DAI characters were not all that attractive. Calling them" ugly" is ridiculous hyperbole but "not really hot" I agree on. Whether or not that is so very terrible is a different matter. But as a simple observation, it's not unfounded imo.

So I actually do agree that the art design of the companions was... unusual. While I do not find Cassandra and Josie (or Sera for that matter) ugly, I could TOTALLY understand why men were less than happy. And when I first saw Peebee I actually thought "oh boy, here we go again". She and Sara are again NOT ugly but they are not Liara or ME1 Ashley. And I don't really understand why people get so defensive about it. Women like hot guys too. It's human nature!

Whatever the hell is going on with character faces I call the DAI Effect from now on. Until I've seen all squadmates I cannot tell if there's a SJW agenda at work or if there's just something seriously wrong with Frostbite or the Bioware designers and animators. However, Morrigan looked GREAT, so it's not necessarily the claymation version of the trilogy's gorilla faces. That weird cartoon doll  look is definitely a new engine problem, though. It's probably what makes the faces look this weird. But oddly, it does seem to affect female faces way more. MAYBE it has to do with female faces being smoother and so it shows more? Or the fact that hair looked so bad they went with terrible short styles to "hide" it? Or that abomination of an outfit that Josie wears? I have no idea, really.

But if there is an agenda, I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not about spiting men but about SOME female gamers feeling threatened. Or at least that could be what Bioware thinks. Cassandra is VERY popular with female players, is she not? I adore her too! I can totally see how DAI was not made for straight men. Which does NOT mean it was meant to punish them. Maybe Bioware felt like making a game for women and gay men for a change. Dorian's character flatters both gay men and straight women, perhaps again more so women. I too thought his flirty banter with female inquisitor was amazing. It was HOT. Nothing wrong with that once in a while.

There is probably no vile intention behind it. Unless of course all the guys  in MEA turn out to be super hot and all the women look more average girl next door. I still think EVERYONE but Morrigan and Cullen looked kind of weird and not particularly attractive in DAI. And yet the DAI companions ended up my favorite bunch in that franchise. Looks aren't everything. But wanting attractive love interests is nothing evil and should not be ridiculed by everyone imo. Women are just as shallow, they just get off on different things in addition to looks, see Solas.

Meh, people are too easily scared these days... it's almost as easy as offending them.

But isn't that what this whole thread is about? Some people are afraid that the characters are going to be ugly and some people are afraid that they are going to be to, "beautified" (in lack of  better word). And everybody try to tell the each other why they are right.

Ah, the beauty of humans.

I dunno but I don't see anyone afraid the characters are going to be too attractive.

16 pages? Well done lads.

This is how I envisioned Ryder would look:

*snip*

That completely captures my imagination.

Wouldn't it be nice if there was some way in game that you could change Ryder's appearance to be more like that? *gasp* That would be revolutionary!