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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 17:38:30 GMT
All I'm going to say is, if Sara was on the cover of People magazine, it wouldn't be because she was gorgeous. It would be because she was a good actress. Women could say how pretty she was compared to the average woman, probably enhanced because she wears expensive clothes and has her hair and makeup done by professionals, or because they just like her personality and really want to root for her, but Sara would never be known as above-average in looks. Scott, however, looks like he could star as The Bachelor. In fact, I think Eric Bana called and said he's considering suing Bioware for appropriating his face/hair onto Scott's body without his express permission. If she was an actress, she'd be gorgeous since Hollywood has pretty high standards of beauty for women (above-average/gorgeous for us is homely for them). Ah, you're the guy who thinks Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy and Mindy Kaling and Ellen Degeneres and Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer are above-average in looks. Yes, Sara is right up there with Stephanie Corneliussen, Emilia Clarke, Blake Lively, Paula Patton, et. al. Very well. Carry on.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 5, 2016 17:43:02 GMT
If she was an actress, she'd be gorgeous since Hollywood has pretty high standards of beauty for women (above-average/gorgeous for us is homely for them). Ah, you're the guy who thinks Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy and Mindy Kaling and Ellen Degeneres and Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer are above-average in looks. Yes, Sara is right up there with Stephanie Corneliussen, Emilia Clarke, Blake Lively, Paula Patton, et. al. Very well. Carry on. Huuuh... that's like the Victoria's Secret Angels lineup from hell.
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Post by Tarkus on Dec 5, 2016 17:47:34 GMT
If she was an actress, she'd be gorgeous since Hollywood has pretty high standards of beauty for women (above-average/gorgeous for us is homely for them). Ah, you're the guy who thinks Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy and Mindy Kaling and Ellen Degeneres and Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer are above-average in looks. Yes, Sara is right up there with Stephanie Corneliussen, Emilia Clarke, Blake Lively, Paula Patton, et. al. Very well. Carry on. I'd say Wiig, Dunham, and Schumer are pretty good-looking. Also, sure, I don't see why Sara Ryder wouldn't be right up there with your second list.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 17:49:09 GMT
Ah, you're the guy who thinks Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy and Mindy Kaling and Ellen Degeneres and Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer are above-average in looks. Yes, Sara is right up there with Stephanie Corneliussen, Emilia Clarke, Blake Lively, Paula Patton, et. al. Very well. Carry on. Huuuh... that's like the Victoria's Secret Angels lineup from hell. Edit: Hilarious. Good one. As to the second group, I was trying to show that there's a different view of diversity out there. S.C. is European, E.C. is short, B.L. has an imperfect but memorable face, P.P. is a woman of color and also curvy (not a stick). At any rate, all of those women are simply on another level from the first group of women I mentioned.
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Post by readher on Dec 5, 2016 17:52:14 GMT
People have different opinions and values. I honestly can't see the resemblance with Micheal Jackson, as they stated often, but it's ok. It doesn't bother me. Ah-ha-ha-hah... it's just getting less and less disappointing. Thank you for making my day. Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha.... The actress she was modeled after is very pretty, but Miranda's in-game model is simply weird. Her face seems too wide and her "smiley" animations (which are bad, as most BW's animations are) that she uses often are only making it more prominent. Imo ME1/ME2 Ashley was really good looking and there wasn't any problems with her face. In ME3 her lips were ridiculous imo (not to mention the completely off-regulation hair...) and her lower face seemed wide as well, though to lesser extent than Miranda's. But at least in the case of Miranda and Ash in ME3 you can see that they wanted to make them attractive, it just didn't work out. What we've seen of females in ME:A so far though is definitely something different, because their faces are simply weird and not attractive at all (there'll probably be some people that will find them attractive, but in no way it would be even near half, let alone majority). Labelling the likes of Vetra as "babe" and attractive is ridiculous, as there will be very few people that will consider them such and it's generally females that feel like romancing aliens that don't resemble humans at all. And Peebee, while her attire might be a bit suggestive and whatnot, seems and acts too much like a child for me to even consider going there. She looks like rebellious 15 years old (akin to Mission Vao, as you pointed out previously) and not a romance material. I mean, really, most females wear their hair long. If a goddamn spectre and Lieutenant-Commander of the Alliance (Ashley) can wear her hair long like a model, then I'm sure as hell officials of semi-military initiative can wear it long (at least chin-lenght for God's sake) as well, yet we already have two that have it cut very short. It's definitely not the hair most people find attractive and definitely not the hair most women have.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 17:56:44 GMT
Ah, you're the guy who thinks Kristen Wiig and Melissa McCarthy and Mindy Kaling and Ellen Degeneres and Lena Dunham and Amy Schumer are above-average in looks. Yes, Sara is right up there with Stephanie Corneliussen, Emilia Clarke, Blake Lively, Paula Patton, et. al. Very well. Carry on. I'd say Wiig, Dunham, and Schumer are pretty good-looking. Also, sure, I don't see why Sara Ryder wouldn't be right up there with your second list. You clearly saw the movie Shallow Hal. As for me, I refuse to take the blue pill or go in for my scheduled appointment for reeducation. Excuse me while I look at Amy Schumer being considered for the role of Barbie and hurry to the toilet to *throws up in mouth a little*
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 5, 2016 17:57:08 GMT
Huuuh... that's like the Victoria's Secret Angels lineup from hell. Really. I was trying to show that there's a different view of diversity out there. S.C. is European, E.C. is short, B.L. has an imperfect but memorable face, P.P. is a woman of color and also curvy (not a stick). At any rate, all of those women are simply on another level from the first group of women I mentioned. Find better examples if you wish, but I made my point. Never mind me, I have a very narrow definition of beauty, comes with the "job"... and I was referring to the first line, not the second.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 17:59:13 GMT
Really. I was trying to show that there's a different view of diversity out there. S.C. is European, E.C. is short, B.L. has an imperfect but memorable face, P.P. is a woman of color and also curvy (not a stick). At any rate, all of those women are simply on another level from the first group of women I mentioned. Find better examples if you wish, but I made my point. Never mind me, I have a very narrow definition of beauty, comes with the "job"... and I was referring to the first line, not the second. I just realized that and was about to edit my statement. Considering your previous post: Hilarious. Good one!
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 5, 2016 18:00:21 GMT
Ah-ha-ha-hah... it's just getting less and less disappointing. Thank you for making my day. Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha.... The actress she was modeled after is very pretty, but Miranda's in-game model is simply weird. Her face seems too wide and her "smiley" animations (which are bad, as most BW's animations are) that she uses often are only making it more prominent. Imo ME1/ME2 Ashley was really good looking and there wasn't any problems with her face. In ME3 her lips were ridiculous imo (not to mention the completely off-regulation hair...) and her lower face seemed wide as well, though to lesser extent than Miranda's. But at least in the case of Miranda and Ash in ME3 you can see that they wanted to make them attractive, it just didn't work out. What we've seen of females in ME:A so far though is definitely something different, because their faces are simply weird and not attractive at all (there'll probably be some people that will find them attractive, but in no way it would be even near half, let alone majority). Labelling the likes of Vetra as "babe" and attractive is ridiculous, as there will be very few people that will consider them such and it's generally females that feel like romancing aliens that don't resemble humans at all. And Peebee, while her attire might be a bit suggestive and whatnot, seems and acts too much like a child for me to even consider going there. She looks like rebellious 15 years old (akin to Mission Vao, as you pointed out previously) and not a romance material. I mean, really, most females wear their hair long. If a goddamn spectre and Lieutenant-Commander of the Alliance (Ashley) can wear her hair long like a model, then I'm sure as hell officials of semi-military initiative can wear it long (at least chin-lenght for God's sake) as well, yet we already have two that have it cut very short. It's definitely not the hair most people find attractive and definitely not the hair most women have). Personality aside, which I'll judge in the full game, but this looks like a teen to you? I also don't get what hairstyles have to do with the topic. Expecially because ME was notoriously bad with those, or Bioware in general.
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Post by Otter on Dec 5, 2016 18:02:14 GMT
Everything else aside, I'm curious as to what you think this mysterious cabal of liberal feminists is trying to accomplish by making a video game that contains at least two characters you can't jerk off to.
Has it occurred to you that maybe Bioware has realized that they're the only adult RPG studio with a significant audience of not-straights and not-males? Black Isle's been dissolved, or the next best thing to it. Obsidian never really got their feet off the ground and they're starting to circle the drain. FromSoftware (besides being eastern RPGs - a big difference to some people) doesn't do anything to appeal to either sex; I can't speak for all women, but I'm there for badassery and mind-screwy lore. Same with Bethesda (and I think everyone can agree from Fallout 4 that Bethesda shouldn't be going anywhere near romance). And there are a lot of female gamers who I don't think are ever going to forgive CD Projekt RED for Witcher 1's sex cards.
Unless you think smart niche marketing is a conspiracy, Bioware isn't screwing over the straight male gamer. They're making things that can appeal to everyone, and if certain people are shallow enough to pass it up based on the existence of female characters who don't have the physical and mental traits of a Barbie doll, that's an acceptable trade off.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 5, 2016 18:03:16 GMT
I'd say Wiig, Dunham, and Schumer are pretty good-looking. Also, sure, I don't see why Sara Ryder wouldn't be right up there with your second list. You clearly saw the movie Shallow Hal. As for me, I refuse to take the blue pill or go in for my scheduled appointment for reeducation. Excuse me while I look at Amy Schumer being considered for the role of Barbie and hurry to the toilet to *throws up in mouth a little* I'd question more the need of a movie about Barbie, and its quality, in the first place.
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Post by Tarkus on Dec 5, 2016 18:05:21 GMT
I'd say Wiig, Dunham, and Schumer are pretty good-looking. Also, sure, I don't see why Sara Ryder wouldn't be right up there with your second list. You clearly saw the movie Shallow Hal. As for me, I refuse to take the blue pill or go in for my scheduled appointment for reeducation. Excuse me while I look at Amy Schumer being considered for the role of Barbie and hurry to the toilet to *throws up in mouth a little* Nope. Wow . I honestly doubt Schumer would be considered for the role of Barbie.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:10:56 GMT
You clearly saw the movie Shallow Hal. As for me, I refuse to take the blue pill or go in for my scheduled appointment for reeducation. Excuse me while I look at Amy Schumer being considered for the role of Barbie and hurry to the toilet to *throws up in mouth a little* Nope. Wow . I honestly doubt Schumer would be considered for the role of Barbie. Read the news: www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/03/amy-schumer-barbie-movie-set-for-title-roleWe all know what Barbie looks like and how feminists and racialists have gone after Barbie for years and forced all sorts of changes. The leftist social engineering continues.
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Post by readher on Dec 5, 2016 18:12:55 GMT
Everything else aside, I'm curious as to what you think this mysterious cabal of liberal feminists is trying to accomplish by making a video game that contains at least two characters you can't jerk off to. Has it occurred to you that maybe Bioware has realized that they're the only adult RPG studio with a significant audience of not-straights and not-males? Black Isle's been dissolved, or the next best thing to it. Obsidian never really got their feet off the ground and they're starting to circle the drain. FromSoftware (besides being eastern RPGs - a big difference to some people) doesn't do anything to appeal to either sex; I can't speak for all women, but I'm there for badassery and mind-screwy lore. Same with Bethesda (and I think everyone can agree from Fallout 4 that Bethesda shouldn't be going anywhere near romance). And there are a lot of female gamers who I don't think are ever going to forgive CD Projekt RED for Witcher 1's sex cards. Unless you think smart niche marketing is a conspiracy, Bioware isn't screwing over the straight male gamer. They're making things that can appeal to everyone, and if certain people are shallow enough to pass it up based on the existence of female characters who don't have the physical and mental traits of a Barbie doll, that's an acceptable trade off. What you fail to understand though, is that males never have any problem with guys having muscles they'll probably never even see in ther lifetime, let alone achieve themselves. Neither do they have a problem with very handsome faces. Various games from various genres had such characters since late 90s and no one cried because of this. It is only lately when it comes to females that the argument "not every female is a model" or "beauty is subjective" or "not all women need to look like barbies" came into play. Games are meant to be jump away from reality. If I am to romance women in games, I want them to be attractive. I honestly see more attractive women during one day at my university than I've seen during my whole DA:I playthrough (and I'm studying IT mind you, not a lot of females here). It literally serves no purpose. To whom making females unattractive appeal to? Straight women won't romance them anyways, and I can't imagine lesbians being happy that women are unattractive. So please, tell me, what purpose does making female characters unattractive serves? No one wants to romance someone with mental traits of a barbie doll. There's a reason why Lara Croft's character is very popular amongst men. She was strong, capable, could take care of herself but at the same time was attractive (both in games, relative to graphic capabilities of course and in movies) and didn't shoo away every men because "muh strong independent woman, I don't need a man". I can't imagine many people want to romance a plastic doll either, but you're of course jumping to extremes as anyone who lacks arguments. No one asks BioWare to make females look like from porn-like Skyrim mods. They can do attractive and fairly realistic (considering it's a game) female characters just fine, as history proves. It is only as of late that they decide against doing so.
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Ah-ha-ha-hah... it's just getting less and less disappointing. Thank you for making my day. Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha.... And Peebee, while her attire might be a bit suggestive and whatnot, seems and acts too much like a child for me to even consider going there. She looks like rebellious 15 years old (akin to Mission Vao, as you pointed out previously) and not a romance material. I mean, really, most females wear their hair long. If a goddamn spectre and Lieutenant-Commander of the Alliance (Ashley) can wear her hair long like a model, then I'm sure as hell officials of semi-military initiative can wear it long (at least chin-lenght for God's sake) as well, yet we already have two that have it cut very short. It's definitely not the hair most people find attractive and definitely not the hair most women have. Ah, so far as I saw, the young roguish females are among the most popular romance options. Imoen, Mission and Vette are really popular NPCs. My spin through the Asian MMOs showed me that lolis are about as much, if not more so, a male fetish as the tall buxom goddesses. I will not out of hand dismiss PeeBee as an appealing romantic option for a lot of males based on that experience. You might not share their interest, but there are definitely a sex-appeal reason to the male gamers audience to BioWARE churning out perky, pesky, tiny-tiny rebellious, sweet and girly in every game they have made.
I know that BioWARE's tattooed females with shaven heads always brought negative responses from males, be that What's-her-name Witch from NWN2, Kalyio and Jack, and I am not sure why they supply shaven female characters as love interests as opposite to an interesting companion. Perhaps it is because pretty much every female character on the crew traditionally is made romanceable for a male.
My prediction is that Cora will likely be conventionally pretty, and have long flowing locks or pony tails. But handling long hair is hard in the video games, and I absolutely despise the long hair textures in the said Oriental MMOs. They clip and do atrocious things.... But hey, it can be done, and why not if people like it. I certainly won't be threatened by a gorgeous human gal on the crew. I'll likely try to nail her on the M!Ryder play-through then drop her for the Turian gal.
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Post by readher on Dec 5, 2016 18:22:46 GMT
And Peebee, while her attire might be a bit suggestive and whatnot, seems and acts too much like a child for me to even consider going there. She looks like rebellious 15 years old (akin to Mission Vao, as you pointed out previously) and not a romance material. I mean, really, most females wear their hair long. If a goddamn spectre and Lieutenant-Commander of the Alliance (Ashley) can wear her hair long like a model, then I'm sure as hell officials of semi-military initiative can wear it long (at least chin-lenght for God's sake) as well, yet we already have two that have it cut very short. It's definitely not the hair most people find attractive and definitely not the hair most women have. Ah, so far as I saw, the young roguish females are the most popular romance options. Imoen, Mission and Vette are really popular NPCs. My spin through the Asian MMOs showed me that lolis are about as much, if not more so, a male fetish as the tall buxom goddesses. I will not out of hand dismiss PeeBee as an appealing romantic option for a lot of males based on that experience. You might not share their interest, but there are definitely a sex-appeal reason to the male gamers audience to BioWARE churning out perky, pesky, tiny-tiny rebellious, sweet and girly in every game they have made.
I know that BioWARE's tattooed females with shaven heads always brought negative responses from males, be that What's-her-name Witch from NWN2, Kalyio and Jack, and I am not sure why they supply shaven female characters as love interests as opposite to an interesting companion. Perhaps it is because pretty much every female character on the crew traditionally is made romanceable for a male.
My prediction is that Cora will likely be conventionally pretty, and have long flowing locks or pony tails. But handling long hair is hard in the video games, and I absolutely despise the long hair textures in the said Oriental MMOs. They clip and do atrocious things....
Young and rougish? Sure, but just by the misstep she does in the PS4 presentation you can see she's too childish to fit that criteria. Also, NWN2 is Obsidian and not BioWare. Obsidian never focused much on romances. It's better, their storytelling was imo miles ahead of everyone else and it should be what they focus on, since their romance sub-plots were, hehe, sub-par, to mildly say. I honestly think Bastilla in KOTOR was the best romance BioWare ever done to date, even though it was kinda cliche. It tied well into the story and developed fairly naturally. I only wished it was more fleshed out in the Dark Side ending, since there is no acknowledgement of it aside from assurance from Bastilla during fight with her that she will stand beside you as your lover should you turn into the Dark Side.
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Somebody with a Twitter account please contact @gamblemike and tell him with all due respect that we've all seen pictures of his wife and her modelling of N7 gear. Remind him that he didn't marry her because she was a plain jane like Sara and that he needs to do a solid for the other hetero bros out there who just want to be able to enjoy sex again! C'mon, Mike Gamble, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none.
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Somebody with a Twitter account please contact @gamblemike and tell him with all due respect that we've all seen pictures of his wife and her modelling of N7 gear. Remind him that he didn't marry her because she was a plain jane like Sara and that he needs to do a solid for the other hetero bros out there who just want to be able to enjoy sex again! C'mon, Mike Gamble, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. I still don't get the obsession on Sara. She won't be a romance. Maybe you should ask to ask them to be sure Cora or other humans females LI are attractive
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Didn't even know that there was a Barbie movie in the talks. What you fail to understand though, is that males never have any problem with guys having muscles they'll probably never even see in ther lifetime, let alone achieve themselves. Neither do they have a problem with very handsome faces. Various games from various genres had such characters since late 90s and no one cried because of this. It is only lately when it comes to females that the argument "not every female is a model" or "beauty is subjective" or "not all women need to look like barbies" came into play. Games are meant to be jump away from reality. If I am to romance women in games, I want them to be attractive. I honestly see more attractive women during one day at my university than I've seen during my whole DA:I playthrough (and I'm studying IT mind you, not a lot of females here). It literally serves no purpose. To whom making females unattractive appeal to? Straight women won't romance them anyways, and I can't imagine lesbians being happy that women are unattractive. So please, tell me, what purpose does making female characters unattractive serves? No one wants to romance someone with mental traits of a barbie doll. There's a reason why Lara Croft's character is very popular amongst men. She was strong, capable, could take care of herself but at the same time was attractive (both in games, relative to graphic capabilities of course and in movies) and didn't shoo away every men because "muh strong independent woman, I don't need a man". I can't imagine many people want to romance a plastic doll either, but you're of course jumping to extremes as anyone who lacks arguments. No one asks BioWare to make females look like from porn-like Skyrim mods. They can do attractive and fairly realistic (considering it's a game) female characters just fine, as history proves. It is only as of late that they decide against doing so. Cassandra and Josephine are attractive. They haven't made females unattractive. Again, they haven't made the female characters unattractive, they just don't fit your standards is all. deadpool9 Avatar Dec 5, 2016 11:28:11 GMT -7 deadpool9 said: Somebody with a Twitter account please contact @gamblemike and tell him with all due respect that we've all seen pictures of his wife and her modelling of N7 gear. Remind him that he didn't marry her because she was a plain jane like Sara and that he needs to do a solid for the other hetero bros out there who just want to be able to enjoy sex again! C'mon, Mike Gamble, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. Jesus Tapdancing Christ, make a twitter account yourself and do that.
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Post by warbaby2 on Dec 5, 2016 18:37:37 GMT
Somebody with a Twitter account please contact @gamblemike and tell him with all due respect that we've all seen pictures of his wife and her modelling of N7 gear. Remind him that he didn't marry her because she was a plain jane like Sara and that he needs to do a solid for the other hetero bros out there who just want to be able to enjoy sex again! C'mon, Mike Gamble, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. I like you!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:43:45 GMT
Ah, so far as I saw, the young roguish females are the most popular romance options. Imoen, Mission and Vette are really popular NPCs. My spin through the Asian MMOs showed me that lolis are about as much, if not more so, a male fetish as the tall buxom goddesses. I will not out of hand dismiss PeeBee as an appealing romantic option for a lot of males based on that experience. You might not share their interest, but there are definitely a sex-appeal reason to the male gamers audience to BioWARE churning out perky, pesky, tiny-tiny rebellious, sweet and girly in every game they have made.
I know that BioWARE's tattooed females with shaven heads always brought negative responses from males, be that What's-her-name Witch from NWN2, Kalyio and Jack, and I am not sure why they supply shaven female characters as love interests as opposite to an interesting companion. Perhaps it is because pretty much every female character on the crew traditionally is made romanceable for a male.
My prediction is that Cora will likely be conventionally pretty, and have long flowing locks or pony tails. But handling long hair is hard in the video games, and I absolutely despise the long hair textures in the said Oriental MMOs. They clip and do atrocious things....
Young and rougish? Sure, but just by the misstep she does in the PS4 presentation you can see she's too childish to fit that criteria. Also, NWN2 is Obsidian and not BioWare. Obsidian never focused much on romances. It's better, their storytelling was imo miles ahead of everyone else and it should be what they focus on, since their romance sub-plots were, hehe, sub-par, to mildly say. I honestly think Bastilla in KOTOR was the best romance BioWare ever done to date, even though it was kinda cliche. It tied well into the story and developed fairly naturally. I only wished it was more fleshed out in the Dark Side ending, since there is no acknowledgement of it aside from assurance from Bastilla during fight with her that she will stand beside you as your lover should you turn into the Dark Side. I will disagree, because Bao-Dur's relationship was what rocked my boat for a long time despite me playing pretty much every romance in BG1, BG2, NWN2, KOTOR, JE and SWTOR, on the strength of the "The longest you have looked at me..." dialogue (it was not intentionally romantic, but it was more emotionally engaging than the whole lot of "I will prove my love in bed tonight, oh female PC!").
Have you seen loli obsession in the Asian games? Mission and PeeBee fit right in, and there is no shortage of males going for that type. I am not, so I suggest you go ask the guys who love lolis. because the boards are full of: why loli's don't have big enough breasts? Can we have this class in loli? I am NOT going to play this game if we can't have a loli! Why the panties don't have enough lace on a loli?
Regardless, I do hope you all will get the goddess you are looking for, with boobs and hair, and everything. I like the charm the romances bring to the video-games, and it would be wrong to say that looks play no part.
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Post by readher on Dec 5, 2016 18:44:47 GMT
Didn't even know that there was a Barbie movie in the talks. What you fail to understand though, is that males never have any problem with guys having muscles they'll probably never even see in ther lifetime, let alone achieve themselves. Neither do they have a problem with very handsome faces. Various games from various genres had such characters since late 90s and no one cried because of this. It is only lately when it comes to females that the argument "not every female is a model" or "beauty is subjective" or "not all women need to look like barbies" came into play. Games are meant to be jump away from reality. If I am to romance women in games, I want them to be attractive. I honestly see more attractive women during one day at my university than I've seen during my whole DA:I playthrough (and I'm studying IT mind you, not a lot of females here). It literally serves no purpose. To whom making females unattractive appeal to? Straight women won't romance them anyways, and I can't imagine lesbians being happy that women are unattractive. So please, tell me, what purpose does making female characters unattractive serves? No one wants to romance someone with mental traits of a barbie doll. There's a reason why Lara Croft's character is very popular amongst men. She was strong, capable, could take care of herself but at the same time was attractive (both in games, relative to graphic capabilities of course and in movies) and didn't shoo away every men because "muh strong independent woman, I don't need a man". I can't imagine many people want to romance a plastic doll either, but you're of course jumping to extremes as anyone who lacks arguments. No one asks BioWare to make females look like from porn-like Skyrim mods. They can do attractive and fairly realistic (considering it's a game) female characters just fine, as history proves. It is only as of late that they decide against doing so. Cassandra and Josephine are attractive. They haven't made females unattractive. Again, they haven't made the female characters unattractive, they just don't fit your standards is all. deadpool9 Avatar Dec 5, 2016 11:28:11 GMT -7 deadpool9 said: Somebody with a Twitter account please contact @gamblemike and tell him with all due respect that we've all seen pictures of his wife and her modelling of N7 gear. Remind him that he didn't marry her because she was a plain jane like Sara and that he needs to do a solid for the other hetero bros out there who just want to be able to enjoy sex again! C'mon, Mike Gamble, it ain't no fun if the homies can't have none. Jesus Tapdancing Christ, make a twitter account yourself and do that. If you think Cassandra is anywhere close to being universally attractive then I'm truly sorry for you. With all due respect, you hardly seen to know how men decide whether someone is attractive or not. Ultimately every person will be at least somewhat attractive to someone, but there are is a kind of universal attractiveness that appeals to a large majority of men. I can look at a woman and think "I'm sure almost all my friends will think she's attractive" and sure enough they do. I can look at a woman and think opposite and it will be true as well. Cassandra definitely doesn't come even close into universally attractive territory, and neither does Josephine (although it has a bit less to do with her looks and more with her character). You think I'm some special snowflake, but that is not the case. I can think that a woman is unattractive, but at the same time know that many men will find her as such. That is not what's happening here.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2016 18:47:18 GMT
Tarkus No need to bring Jesus into this. If you believe, you should know better than to say that. If you don't believe, why are you saying that except to offend people who do believe? It's offensive speech on another level than our obviously inane debate over video game characters' attractiveness.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 5, 2016 18:55:26 GMT
readher: So do you think that Josephine, judging only her appearance, is attractive?
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Post by readher on Dec 5, 2016 18:58:00 GMT
readher : So do you think that Josephine, judging only her appearance, is attractive? Not overly, but yes, I believe she falls under attractive category. She'd probably be even more popular among latin men, since seeing as I'm from Poland her looks are fairly exotic for me and it's not really my cup of tea.
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