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Post by laxian on Feb 28, 2017 17:09:13 GMT
The term you are looking for is: Psychotic... Maybe, but I was trying to be nice (some people do like her after all!) greetings LAX
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 12, 2017 14:41:37 GMT
Ah, finally a thread I can call home.
The female faces have definitely been, stylized, I suppose we'll call it so as not to send folks running for their safe spaces. At this point about all we can do is ask for better CC updates.
I'd like to see several new presets both male and female with more natural and proportionate facial geometries. More freedom in the CC to swap eyes, nose, mouth, cheek, chin, and brow types instead of having them all fixed allowing only minor scaling adjustments of those features. More skin tone options are desperately needed for lighter skin tones, at least some pale and rosy colored Caucasian tones which are completely absent in the current CC. Some less saturated hair colors would be nice as well.
It isn't just default Sara that is the problem. It is all the female presets and the horrid CC overall.
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Post by leo3abp on Apr 12, 2017 14:47:44 GMT
Will just leave it here for some additional deeper context beyond the "oh he/she is ugly me no like it!". It is from another thread that was redirected but somewhy not merged here. On a side note, I wonder why it was shoved into a romance subforum when it is clear that this thread belongs to general discussion where this important issue will be more highlighted... but whatever
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Post by OdanUrr on Apr 14, 2017 3:01:31 GMT
I just stumbled upon this too. I have to agree that that Sara Ryder looks tons better than what we got now. Not sure what happened there.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 14, 2017 3:27:02 GMT
I just stumbled upon this too. I have to agree that that Sara Ryder looks tons better than what we got now. Not sure what happened there. I'd probably be far less harsh on Sara if we had good CC options. The CC is set up that you can make some good looking Asian, black, and mixed ethnicity characters but it is almost impossible to make a Caucasian Sara. If we had more options in the CC I wouldn't care about default Sara, though in the last patch they did smooth out some of her features particularly around the nose and cheeks, though how much they continue to update her I am not optimistic about. Until they update the CC though I'll continue to lay it on thick with the ugly Sara meme. I'm not even sure how to describe her at times, she reminds me of equal parts Mark Hamill and a ventriloquist dummy.
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Post by AGECCR on Apr 14, 2017 5:11:04 GMT
I like the default Sara. Granted, she does look rough in some of the bad lighting scenes but that goes for almost all the characters. I'm not a big fan of the one in the trailer posted above, the Sara in the game we got looks better to me. I would've loved to have made my own character (my Shepard is so iconic to me and I wanted that for Sara), but everyone knows how limiting the CC is. Still, I am happy with the default (especially after the patch).
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Post by davkar on Apr 14, 2017 6:10:48 GMT
This crap again? Pre-patch Sara was fine, you just had to find the good angles and lighting. The patch fixed her eye. Can we just move on please? If you want to know what 'ugly' looks like just take a stroll in the Eos outpost.
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Post by smellycatbutts on Apr 14, 2017 6:32:55 GMT
I rarely see any good looking OC male Ryder. The default Scott is ugly AF--he looks like some teenage boy who shaved his first pubes and glued them to his face.
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Post by OdanUrr on Apr 14, 2017 11:28:25 GMT
This crap again? Pre-patch Sara was fine, you just had to find the good angles and lighting. The patch fixed her eye. Can we just move on please? If you want to know what 'ugly' looks like just take a stroll in the Eos outpost. You can always, you know, ignore this thread and let other people discuss this issue to their heart's content.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 14, 2017 13:38:17 GMT
Pre-patch Sara was fine, you just had to find the good angles and lighting. If you want to know what 'ugly' looks like just take a stroll in the Eos outpost.
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Post by chriscole on Apr 14, 2017 14:28:22 GMT
Pre-patch Sara was fine, you just had to find the good angles and lighting. If you want to know what 'ugly' looks like just take a stroll in the Eos outpost.
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Post by Life is Strange on Apr 14, 2017 15:00:21 GMT
I just stumbled upon this too. I have to agree that that Sara Ryder looks tons better than what we got now. Not sure what happened there. I'd probably be far less harsh on Sara if we had good CC options. The CC is set up that you can make some good looking Asian, black, and mixed ethnicity characters but it is almost impossible to make a Caucasian Sara. If we had more options in the CC I wouldn't care about default Sara, though in the last patch they did smooth out some of her features particularly around the nose and cheeks, though how much they continue to update her I am not optimistic about. Until they update the CC though I'll continue to lay it on thick with the ugly Sara meme. I'm not even sure how to describe her at times, she reminds me of equal parts Mark Hamill and a ventriloquist dummy. Don't Feed the Haters: The Confessions from a decafhigh Troll! Stop now your dumb hate/trolling comment!
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 14, 2017 16:30:00 GMT
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Post by N7 on Apr 14, 2017 16:36:44 GMT
Default Sara Ryder looks now (cute) amazing with Patch 1.05!
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Post by yeah rip on Apr 14, 2017 16:55:50 GMT
Pre-patch Sara was fine, you just had to find the good angles and lighting. If you want to know what 'ugly' looks like just take a stroll in the Eos outpost. Sara's face always looked fine, what you're complaining about is animations, which are toned down with the latest patch. Do you have nothing else to do with your time..?
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 14, 2017 18:17:34 GMT
Sara's face always looked fine, what you're complaining about is animations, which are toned down with the latest patch. Do you have nothing else to do with your time..? Apparently not.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 14, 2017 23:35:31 GMT
In engine (I.e. outside of a cutscene) my Sara looks great: 99% of the time in a cutscene she looks great also: Yet on the very rare occasion sometimes during a scene she looks like she has the mumps or something and her face seems really bloated and lacking in detail. It's almost like a low polygon count model has loaded up briefly. It's very odd, and only happens for a few seconds.
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Post by President of Boom on Apr 14, 2017 23:48:31 GMT
Apart from some baffling makeup choices (Mimi Bobeck, er, I mean, Suvi Anwar, I'm looking at you) and weird perma-smile situations with Cora (BioWare, there are only 3 reasons why someone would smile all the freaking time: 1. nerve damage 2. insanity 3. they are an infant who's continuously pooping his or her diaper--the first option would be unfortunate, the second option would be sad, and I hope for the sake of everyone on the Tempest that we're not dealing with the third option), I don't see anything wrong with the appearance of our crew. There are some very, um, "interesting" NPC's out there though.
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Post by decafhigh on Apr 15, 2017 1:24:11 GMT
Apart from some baffling makeup choices (Mimi Bobeck, er, I mean, Suvi Anwar, I'm looking at you) and weird perma-smile situations with Cora (BioWare, there are only 3 reasons why someone would smile all the freaking time: 1. nerve damage 2. insanity 3. they are an infant who's continuously pooping his or her diaper--the first option would be unfortunate, the second option would be sad, and I hope for the sake of everyone on the Tempest that we're not dealing with the third option), I don't see anything wrong with the appearance of our crew. There are some very, um, "interesting" NPC's out there though. As far as the crew goes Cora, Suvi, and PeeBee look just fine to me, especially after the patch. I like the Lexi face even if it is used on 1000 asari clones. The male faces in general look pretty good, both default Scott and a lot of the custom Scott's I've seen posted around here are downright hunky. A lot of the generic female NPC's look like utter beasts since they seem to be random parts from the CC but I don't particularly care about them. The only ones I've taken serious issue with are the Sara default and presets. If we had at least one preset with some more natural facial geometries and 2 or 3 Caucasian skin tones I would really never have had a reason to complain. Sadly we didn't get something as simple as that.
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Post by CrutchCricket on Apr 15, 2017 16:51:04 GMT
Man, scrolling through all these shots of Andromeda characters and then seeing Joker is like a breath of fresh air. I don't know how people sign off on Andromeda faces as even passable. It's not just weird animations or weird face shapes, the textures are pure uncanny valley too. You can claim it's the lighting but honestly, how much of the game is terribly lit? How much do you have to ignore?
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Post by brandoftime on Apr 16, 2017 1:59:32 GMT
Just wondering, are any of the female presets close enough to default Sara to recreate her with improvements? I would love to sculpt a few things, change the nose and bring the chin in a tad . . . The default isn't 'ugly' but has weird warped areas around the eyes and mouth specifically that just need tweaking.
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Post by Evanoel on Apr 16, 2017 2:16:48 GMT
I rarely see any good looking OC male Ryder. The default Scott is ugly AF--he looks like some teenage boy who shaved his first pubes and glued them to his face. Eh, I think default Scott is fine, if not cute. No, I'm not biased at all, trust me.
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Post by dmc1001 on Apr 19, 2017 6:33:32 GMT
I rarely see any good looking OC male Ryder. The default Scott is ugly AF--he looks like some teenage boy who shaved his first pubes and glued them to his face. Eh, I think default Scott is fine, if not cute. No, I'm not biased at all, trust me. 100% agree.
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