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Post by readher on Dec 19, 2016 17:13:06 GMT
Well, from what I caught up on the Bio games so far, my personal tastes run:
Josephine: plain, but very aristocratic looking Cassandra: OMG, really, really beautiful, I'd sell my soul to look like her! Sera: Cute, not my thing Ashley in ME3 - very attractive, save for the pink lip gloss (I don't like pink). Morrigan in ME1: Nice face, but her teeth bother me, because they look very dark compared to her carefully brushed up, luminous face. Love the eyes though.
In what I saw so far from ME:A:
Sara: Nose too big, bags below the eyes too dark, coloring is mousy, bit nice hair. The young black lady in the trailer Sara negotiates with: very cute Two other females in the who is who thread: shots taken from an angle that artificially flattens their faces, but one has cool eye-color. I have an inkling in the normal projection they have stock faces that are fine Aliens (two asari and a turian): artwork looks great, very "alive" and Vetra has the awesome facial structure that somehow manages to convey that she is feminine. Pee Bee looks like a cute girlish rogue in the same mold as Vette.
In conclusion, I don't see ugly women, save for poor plain Josephine, but she makes up for it with her noblewoman's air.
Going by the looks only: Josephine: Attractive Cassandra: Fugly Sera: Fugly ME1/ME2 Ashley: Very attractive ME3 Ashley: Looks like after too much plastic surgery, but still fairly attractive DA:O Morrigan: Attractive. The bad teeth is something all characters share in the game, there's a mod for that. DA:O Leliana: Attractive Miranda: Attractive, but her animations make her face look really weird. The actress she was modeled on is very attractive though. Sara: Plain, animations make her look ugly though The young black lady in the trailer Sara negotiates with: Probably the fugliest out of all characters Two other females in the who is who thread: Black one fugly and the redhead has weird as fuck eyes, if they were fixed maybe she'd get ugly but going by the ss we have alone she's fugly. Aliens: Can't really comment much on Vetra. Looks fine for a Turian I guess? Peebe looks ugly/plain/childish, but at least what we've seen of her facial animations is very good (at least when compared to the rest).
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Post by Trilobite Derby on Dec 19, 2016 22:42:01 GMT
I'm expecting Andromeda to also have: Why? The closest thing you ever have to a brothel in ME is renegading the consort. Maybe. But who all knows how Asari mind melding stuff even works, since it can apparently be very platonic (GET OUT OF MY HEAD LIARA) or mean as all getout (Hi, Aria). I mean, it's not outside the realm of possibility, but if you're expecting one, you may be let down. Or else it'll be entirely populated with Khett, because they're established, unlike our merry gang of explorers. Granted, I think most of the WOMEN ARE UGLY problem is just that as we get less cartoony, more details show up on faces, which leaves less for your imagination to fill in with your desired features. Fer instance, I think Cullen's hotter in DA2. But his transition to hi def is probably for the best... And sometimes he looks a heck of a lot better, if you ignore his POOR SHAVING HABITS. Which drive me nuts because stubble is the most evil thing men can do if you're actually going to smooch them.* *Joke.
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Post by SofaJockey on Dec 20, 2016 0:45:59 GMT
The thing about brothels is I would expect those services to be offered in established locations: - Denerim
- Kirkwall
- The Citadel
- Omega (implied?)
DAI's Skyhold is a pseudo-military establishment, seems less likely to be overt. Andromeda is again rather 'frontier territory' so who knows...?
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 20, 2016 10:21:08 GMT
The thing about brothels is I would expect those services to be offered in established locations: - Denerim
- Kirkwall
- The Citadel
- Omega (implied?)
DAI's Skyhold is a pseudo-military establishment, seems less likely to be overt. Andromeda is again rather 'frontier territory' so who knows...? Other then that, Mass effect never gave us the option to visit a brothel. A nightclub seems to be confirmed based on the last orientation trailer anyway.
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Post by readher on Dec 27, 2016 9:47:52 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/5kh7ii/scott_ryders_face_model/ Look at all those people saying Sara's face model must be beautiful too and that she looks great and cute /s
I really wonder if they got a face model for female lead this time and if they did, how did they butcher her face so much (unless she's not an underwear model like Scott is, but why would BioWare ever do that? /s).
I'm definitely playing default Scott if I end up buying the game though. He looks great (minus the hair, I'm going for buzzcut).
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Post by Panda on Dec 27, 2016 10:08:19 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/5kh7ii/scott_ryders_face_model/ Look at all those people saying Sara's face model must be beautiful too and that she looks great and cute /s I really wonder if they got a face model for female lead this time and if they did, how did they butcher her face so much (unless she's not an underwear model like Scott is, but why would BioWare ever do that? /s). I'm definitely playing default Scott if I end up buying the game though. He looks great (minus the hair, I'm going for buzzcut). They did, just read tweet about that on twitter thread. bsn.boards.net/post/192406/thread
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Post by readher on Dec 27, 2016 10:38:31 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/masseffect/comments/5kh7ii/scott_ryders_face_model/ Look at all those people saying Sara's face model must be beautiful too and that she looks great and cute /s I really wonder if they got a face model for female lead this time and if they did, how did they butcher her face so much (unless she's not an underwear model like Scott is, but why would BioWare ever do that? /s). I'm definitely playing default Scott if I end up buying the game though. He looks great (minus the hair, I'm going for buzzcut). They did, just read tweet about that on twitter thread. bsn.boards.net/post/192406/threadWell, now we have to wait for the reveal and see wthether they choose poorly, or done the scan job poorly, because I seriously doubt any underwear model would look that plain. Anyway, I won't be playing Sara, but I'm sure lesbians will and I bet they'll be oh so happy to have some average looking female scan of MC when compared to very handsome male MC scan. All we need then is reveal that all female human LIs are ugly and we have DA: Inquisition Against Hetero Men and Lesbians 2. I sincerly hope it won't happen, but you never know with BW.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 27, 2016 11:18:09 GMT
Well, now we have to wait for the reveal and see wthether they choose poorly, or done the scan job poorly, because I seriously doubt any underwear model would look that plain. Anyway, I won't be playing Sara, but I'm sure lesbians will and I bet they'll be oh so happy to have some average looking female scan of MC when compared to very handsome male MC scan. All we need then is reveal that all female human LIs are ugly and we have DA: Inquisition Against Hetero Men and Lesbians 2. I sincerly hope it won't happen, but you never know with BW. People can customize their characters, so women can play As a beautiful Ryder if they want to. Again, in at least two games Sheploo was based on a model and default femshep wasn't, and he looked better. Nobody made the same points you're making. Other then that, you're assuming that Sara's face is final, which isn't certain at this point. Scott is actually a good example for this, since he looked very different (with plenty of criticism. I fact before the last two trailers there were more people preferring Sara then Scott). We have a source saying Sara is behind schedule compared to Scott.
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 27, 2016 11:24:13 GMT
Well, now we have to wait for the reveal and see wthether they choose poorly, or done the scan job poorly, because I seriously doubt any underwear model would look that plain. Anyway, I won't be playing Sara, but I'm sure lesbians will and I bet they'll be oh so happy to have some average looking female scan of MC when compared to very handsome male MC scan. All we need then is reveal that all female human LIs are ugly and we have DA: Inquisition Against Hetero Men and Lesbians 2. I sincerly hope it won't happen, but you never know with BW. Other then that, you're assuming that Sara's face is final, which isn't certain at this point. Isn't it? Bioware seems pretty confident about her looks, at least they are unaware about a few complainers on Reddit.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 27, 2016 11:30:07 GMT
Other then that, you're assuming that Sara's face is final, which isn't certain at this point. Isn't it? Bioware seems pretty confident about her looks, at least they are unaware about a few complainers on Reddit. Based on what shibobi said on neogaf, the work on her is behind Scott. They decided to show her to alternate between the Ryders. I don't completely believe or agree with that, but I do think that at least in terms of animation there's work left for Sara. Also, considering they want for facial scans, and Scott doesn't exactly look like his model's face (at least compared to Shepard and his face scan), I think they either have work to do on both, or they failed a bit in reproducing them in the game.
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Post by Ahriman on Dec 27, 2016 11:50:29 GMT
Isn't it? Bioware seems pretty confident about her looks, at least they are unaware about a few complainers on Reddit. Based on what shibobi said on neogaf, the work on her is behind Scott. They decided to show her to alternate between the Ryders. I don't completely believe or agree with that, but I do think that at least in terms of animation there's work left for Sara. Also, considering they want for facial scans, and Scott doesn't exactly look like his model's face (at least compared to Shepard and his face scan), I think they either have work to do on both, or they failed a bit in reproducing them in the game. Ah, animations, yeah might be the case, but I'd bet face model itself is pretty much finished.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 27, 2016 11:56:58 GMT
Based on what shibobi said on neogaf, the work on her is behind Scott. They decided to show her to alternate between the Ryders. I don't completely believe or agree with that, but I do think that at least in terms of animation there's work left for Sara. Also, considering they want for facial scans, and Scott doesn't exactly look like his model's face (at least compared to Shepard and his face scan), I think they either have work to do on both, or they failed a bit in reproducing them in the game. Ah, animations, yeah might be the case, but I'd bet face model itself is pretty much finished. I don't know, Scott looked different between the PS4 pro footage and the N7 trailer. As I said, we'll have to wait and see for next year.
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Post by Panda on Dec 27, 2016 12:03:08 GMT
Yep things can still change. Personally I find Scott bit different looking than his model, but I actually like Scott's face bit more so I'm not complaining. Though I'll be still doing my own characters, no defaults for me. I just wonder if we are able to modify default faces this time. I saw something that sounded like that on twitter thread, but I'm not sure. Good face is always easier to start with than bad one though so if we can that would be nice.
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Post by dalinne on Dec 27, 2016 12:50:42 GMT
Well, now we have to wait for the reveal and see wthether they choose poorly, or done the scan job poorly, because I seriously doubt any underwear model would look that plain. Anyway, I won't be playing Sara, but I'm sure lesbians will and I bet they'll be oh so happy to have some average looking female scan of MC when compared to very handsome male MC scan. All we need then is reveal that all female human LIs are ugly and we have DA: Inquisition Against Hetero Men and Lesbians 2. I sincerly hope it won't happen, but you never know with BW. You mean women in general, women who likes women in particular, or men who will play Sara preset are also included? We all are lesbians? I'm confused I missed this thread SO MUCH...
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Post by readher on Dec 27, 2016 13:52:21 GMT
Well, now we have to wait for the reveal and see wthether they choose poorly, or done the scan job poorly, because I seriously doubt any underwear model would look that plain. Anyway, I won't be playing Sara, but I'm sure lesbians will and I bet they'll be oh so happy to have some average looking female scan of MC when compared to very handsome male MC scan. All we need then is reveal that all female human LIs are ugly and we have DA: Inquisition Against Hetero Men and Lesbians 2. I sincerly hope it won't happen, but you never know with BW. You mean women in general, women who likes women in particular, or men who will play Sara preset are also included? We all are lesbians? I'm confused I missed this thread SO MUCH... Women who like women in particular. It's because not only they'd have subpar MC default scan, but also most likely ugly LI options (like hetero males). I'm sure hetero women would prefer Sara to look better as well, but it might be just me, but I'm usually more concerned with how LIs look like than how my character does (not to say my character's looks don't matter at all). Since the thread is mostly about LIs, I wanted to point out that once again everything points to the fact that hetero men and lesbians will receive the worst treatment, just like in DA:I.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 27, 2016 14:16:09 GMT
You mean women in general, women who likes women in particular, or men who will play Sara preset are also included? We all are lesbians? I'm confused I missed this thread SO MUCH... Women who like women in particular. It's because not only they'd have subpar MC default scan, but also most likely ugly LI options (like hetero males). I'm sure hetero women would prefer Sara to look better as well, but it might be just me, but I'm usually more concerned with how LIs look like than how my character does (not to say my character's looks don't matter at all). Since the thread is mostly about LIs, I wanted to point out that once again everything points to the fact that hetero men and lesbians will receive the worst treatment, just like in DA:I. I still fail to see how 'everything points out' to that. We saw maybe one LI without helmet, and she doesn't look bad (personality might be an issue, but that's valid for every character). Unless we judge male LI from what we saw....which means they'll all be old and not conventionally attractive (Drack). There might be concerns, but to say that everything points out to that is a stretch.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2016 14:28:08 GMT
Oh, good. The sky is still falling in this thread? Just checking. Per usual, as expected.
So let me get this straight: We've seen exactly three major humanoid characters (two of whom are customizable) and because neither of the female characters are supermodels, it means that "all signs point to" this game persecuting straight guys again? Yay! Keep it up, BSN!
Also, until they revealed who Scott's face model was, a bunch of people in his thread were complaining about how dorky looking he was. But now that they've demonstrated that his face model is based off of a handsome guy (even if it doesn't really look that much like the face model), it's another sign of the impending fempocalypse?
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Post by hammerstorm on Dec 27, 2016 14:41:24 GMT
Oh, good. The sky is still falling in this thread? Just checking. Per usual, as expected. So let me get this straight: We've seen exactly three major humanoid characters (two of whom are customizable) and because neither of the female characters are supermodels, it means that "all signs point to" this game persecuting straight guys again? Yay! Keep it up, BSN! Also, until they revealed who Scott's face model was, a bunch of people in his thread were complaining about how dorky looking he was. But now that they've demonstrated that his face model is based off of a handsome guy (even if it doesn't really look that much like the face model), it's another sign of the impending fempocalypse? What? the sky isn't falling? Phfew, I starting to think that I was wrong and they was right. Thanks for the headsup.
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Post by readher on Dec 27, 2016 15:37:48 GMT
Oh, good. The sky is still falling in this thread? Just checking. Per usual, as expected. So let me get this straight: We've seen exactly three major humanoid characters (two of whom are customizable) and because neither of the female characters are supermodels, it means that "all signs point to" this game persecuting straight guys again? Yay! Keep it up, BSN! Also, until they revealed who Scott's face model was, a bunch of people in his thread were complaining about how dorky looking he was. But now that they've demonstrated that his face model is based off of a handsome guy (even if it doesn't really look that much like the face model), it's another sign of the impending fempocalypse? He only looked dorky in the PS4 Pro demo. And I don't need female characters to be supermodels. I just don't want them to be absolutely fugly as two out of three females we've seen so far are. Why exactly should I think that other female characters, LIs included, will look great? DA:I was a total dissapointment in that regard for me and everything I've seen so far in ME:A screams repeat of that. There's no reason for me to give BW a benefit of doubt if they not only hadn't shown me anything to cease my concerns, but already shown some red flags.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 27, 2016 15:56:22 GMT
Oh, good. The sky is still falling in this thread? Just checking. Per usual, as expected. So let me get this straight: We've seen exactly three major humanoid characters (two of whom are customizable) and because neither of the female characters are supermodels, it means that "all signs point to" this game persecuting straight guys again? Yay! Keep it up, BSN! Also, until they revealed who Scott's face model was, a bunch of people in his thread were complaining about how dorky looking he was. But now that they've demonstrated that his face model is based off of a handsome guy (even if it doesn't really look that much like the face model), it's another sign of the impending fempocalypse? He only looked dorky in the PS4 Pro demo. And I don't need female characters to be supermodels. I just don't want them to be absolutely fugly as two out of three females we've seen so far are. Why exactly should I think that other female characters, LIs included, will look great? DA:I was a total dissapointment in that regard for me and everything I've seen so far in ME:A screams repeat of that. There's no reason for me to give BW a benefit of doubt if they not only hadn't shown me anything to cease my concerns, but already shown some red flags. in the fugly ones, are you including Peebee? Because in this case I disagree. She might not be beautiful, but she absolutely doesn't look fugly in the PS4 Pro footage, she looks very different from her E3 footage. She looks actually better then most asari in the trilogy (mask aside, which has no relevance to ber physical features). You're free to not give Bioware the benefit of the doubt. Nobody is saying you should or that you should like everything you see. But other people can state that what you're saying is a stretch, Based on what we actually saw. Also, the point on Scott is that since he improved from the two footages, the same can happen for Sara.
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Post by readher on Dec 27, 2016 16:03:22 GMT
He only looked dorky in the PS4 Pro demo. And I don't need female characters to be supermodels. I just don't want them to be absolutely fugly as two out of three females we've seen so far are. Why exactly should I think that other female characters, LIs included, will look great? DA:I was a total dissapointment in that regard for me and everything I've seen so far in ME:A screams repeat of that. There's no reason for me to give BW a benefit of doubt if they not only hadn't shown me anything to cease my concerns, but already shown some red flags. in the fugly ones, are you including Peebee? Because in this case I disagree. She might not be beautiful, but she absolutely doesn't look fugly in the PS4 Pro footage, she looks very different from her E3 footage. She looks actually better then most asari in the trilogy (mask aside, which has no relevance to ber physical features). You're free to not give Bioware the benefit of the doubt. Nobody is saying you should or that you should like everything you see. But other people can state that what you're saying is a stretch, Based on what we actually saw. Also, the point on Scott is that since he improved from the two footages, the same can happen for Sara. Didn't include Peebee. Just Sara, Kelly and the redhead from "Who is who" thread.
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Post by peebee on Dec 27, 2016 17:34:10 GMT
In Sloane Kelly's case, I just think the hair doesn't help. People think sidescuts and this stuff is really cool these days right? It's looks cool sometimes but in this case I don't think it worked. Maybe I'm old Hair can really change how someone presents themselves, I hope this is not a signal we'll have 10 options of buzzed/sidecuted hair for our own character (improvement from DAI pleaaaaase) And the way her and the redhead appear on the screenshots... it's weird they seems soulless, so I'm not judging too much from them. But pretty or non-pretty, I just think she doesn't look as badass as she should, I mean, Aria looked really cool in my opinion, and she had colorful clothes and nice face tattoos, the jacket was the best part, it gave her a lot of personality (not saying she will be the new Aria exactly). Maybe it's the situation/context that I lack, but the only cool thing in her clothes for me is the green stuff, and the spikes on her neck are ok, but I wish her clothes were more colorful or something. But anyways, this is just my opinion based on the gameplay trailer. snip Also, the point on Scott is that since he improved from the two footages, the same can happen for Sara. This. Scott has changed, Peebee has changed... I believe in the final product everyone will be improved.
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Post by The Elder King on Dec 27, 2016 19:07:20 GMT
in the fugly ones, are you including Peebee? Because in this case I disagree. She might not be beautiful, but she absolutely doesn't look fugly in the PS4 Pro footage, she looks very different from her E3 footage. She looks actually better then most asari in the trilogy (mask aside, which has no relevance to ber physical features). You're free to not give Bioware the benefit of the doubt. Nobody is saying you should or that you should like everything you see. But other people can state that what you're saying is a stretch, Based on what we actually saw. Also, the point on Scott is that since he improved from the two footages, the same can happen for Sara. Didn't include Peebee. Just Sara, Kelly and the redhead from "Who is who" thread. Fair enough, though those aren't necessarily LI, but enemies/supporting cast. We had those in the past and not all of them where attractive. And the characters shown in the site after the second initiative video were in Low res, with one already being different in the game (the security officer). I'll wait to see Cora or female human npc in the tempest, who might have bigger chances of being romances, before saying there's evidence on this topic. But I understand why you'd be concerned.
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Post by Panda on Dec 27, 2016 21:44:50 GMT
I'm expecting Vetra to be LI for sis!Ryder so that ticks attractive lesbian romance option for me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2016 1:44:56 GMT
Now that I get to look like this Steven Brewis fellow, and since there appear to be tons of female LI options who must have AMAZING PERSONALITIES because right now looking at them I can't even muster a semi, I plan on naming myself Narcissus Ryder so that I can bang myself and let Dahlinne watch. After all, Dahlinne said I should go f myself. Wish granted!
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