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Post by bshep on Nov 19, 2016 16:54:02 GMT
Was this posted before? I think he confirmed Drack by mistake lol Tom Taylorson @adam4wigley Drack is one of my favorite team members. However - I’m biased. Krogan are my favorite species. Lol...Poor guy. Well at least it's not like this was unknown to us. I hope that, regardless of whether they use icons or not, there is always an option to NOT flirt with someone. I didn't have so much an issue with how FemShep flirted with Jacob when flirting is what I wanted her to do. What bothered me is that there just was no option at all to not sound flirty with him. Had much of the same issue with Kelly in that the implication made in the Wiki was that both male and female Shepards had to flirt with Kelly in order to get the dinner invite so that she would look after the fish. I would have rather had an option in there to tell her that looking after my fish was to be considered part of her job or to have her just offer to look after my fish just in a friendly "employee going the little bit extra" way rather than going the - she'll offer this after a dinner and implied gay "sex" night (if FemShep) or just "sex" night (if MaleShep).I say, that dance was positively chaste! OMG.....Varren STD
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 17:05:02 GMT
I hope they at least make it so we know whether we are flirting or not. I still feel dirty in ME2 whenever I go talk to Jacob because no matter what option I pick Shep sounds like a total creeper, and Jacob makes it out like you're hitting on him. Noooo. This is a voice-acting problem, not a dialogue problem. Hale laid it on too thick in ME2 and ME3 with Jacob and James, respectively. Definite creeper vibes. The now more common knowledge that VAs are often provided zero context for their scripts may help explain this. Still, ugh. Creeeeepy, as Kasumi might say. I would say it's not just a VA issue. Hale also said in an interview regarding the strike recently that the VAs are required to voice virtually every line in several different ways and that's why the sessions can be so stressful. If so, it seems likely that, somewhere, in what she recorded of that infamous Jacob line should have been an option that sounded less flirty that just wasn't selected for use by whoever programmed that part of the game. Therefore, also if this is the case when they are doing the voice acting, there should always be a clear option for the player to select at least a "non-flirty" tone even if the line itself has the same words as the flirty one.
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Post by Ahriman on Nov 19, 2016 17:39:33 GMT
Was this posted before? I think he confirmed Drack by mistake lol Tom Taylorson @adam4wigley Drack is one of my favorite team members. However - I’m biased. Krogan are my favorite species. Lol, the guy probably thought Drack was already revealed since fans talk about him.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 19, 2016 18:29:42 GMT
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Post by SofNascimento on Nov 19, 2016 18:58:22 GMT
It's funny that in many ways the leak from almost 2 years ago still is our main source of info. The same kind of happened for a lot of time for DAI. Though it was a bit more extensive then the MEA one. Well, DAI E3's was outstanding. And that was 5 months before release. It would be great if Andromeda had that kind of show in this VGA, but for some reason they are showing very little, not even the Game Informer guy got to play the single player.
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Post by goishen on Nov 19, 2016 18:59:44 GMT
*sigh* *flips over his non-existent 2017 calander to March 21st* MOVE.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 19, 2016 19:00:45 GMT
The same kind of happened for a lot of time for DAI. Though it was a bit more extensive then the MEA one. Well, DAI E3's was outstanding. And that was 5 months before release. It would be great if Andromeda had that kind of show in this VGA, but for some reason they are showing very little, not even the Game Informer guy got to play the single player. We'll see what they'll show around VGA. I think that sooner or later they'll show a lot more of the game.
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Post by Nihilus on Nov 19, 2016 19:07:03 GMT
I'm just afraid the scales will tip over and they reveal too much, because they're pressured by the small "outroar" from people moaning that bioware has been so reserved for so long.
Me myself is just fine with bioware holding it in. Give me 5min gameplay on dec. first and I'm good to go and ready for surprises in game. But that's just me.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 19, 2016 19:07:46 GMT
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Roughly every 2 weeks, I change my mind on which squadmate is my favorite. It just happened again. This banter is so damn good. #space Alia Martinez @thessianqueen and who is it this time around? ;o Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonRight at the moment, it's one of the ones we haven't talked about yet. Chip @alanwakey where does PeeBee rank? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonDepends on what sort of Ryder I'm playing, both narratively and combat-wise. Chip @alanwakeyah, cool. Who is your least favorite? Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonRight at the moment? The one that we haven't finished implementing the powers for yet, haha. He's almost done, though.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 19, 2016 19:12:42 GMT
Well, DAI E3's was outstanding. And that was 5 months before release. It would be great if Andromeda had that kind of show in this VGA, but for some reason they are showing very little, not even the Game Informer guy got to play the single player. We'll see what they'll show around VGA. I think that sooner or later they'll show a lot more of the game. I don't follow the industry or its events schedule, so I could be way off base; but doesn't it pretty much have to be at the VGAs, if it's going to happen at an event? What's left after that? Do any big events even take place between the end of the year and March? Q1 always seemed like the dead time in the calendar. The VGAs themselves are claiming that their presentations will be more substantial this year than in previous years, but I'm not getting my hopes up. I'd rather be surprised than annoyed if and when the big revelation is no such thing.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 19, 2016 19:17:43 GMT
I'm talking about what's implied by her "I haven't stayed up that late since college" comment... long before the dance scene. Also, the player can click on the bed and she'll lie there with Shepard (just like any of the other LIs in the cabin after the SM) - thereby confirming it as a sexual relationship within ME2. I never saw it like that. The staying up late thing always had me think they just talked and before they knew it it was really late. And I disagree that cuddling confirms it being sexual in nature. It could mean that, but could not as well.
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Post by BioFan on Nov 19, 2016 19:29:49 GMT
This is the first time I've ever had to start skimming posts in the twitter threads, and they're my top favorite ones to read all the way through. It's really frustrating to come back to 10 new pages and have 80% of those posts be irrelevant stuff. I don't have heaps of spare time to give to this forum any more, and at this point it's getting harder to justify reading even the twitter thread because the ratio of useful information to bickering is so low. I'll agree, combing through 8 pages with maybe 4 tweets when I get home from school is kinda a pain, but I won't tell people to stop discussing their opinions and such. Just so long as it's about what is presented in the thread...
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Post by goishen on Nov 19, 2016 19:48:04 GMT
It's really frustrating to come back to 10 new pages and have 80% of those posts be irrelevant stuff. I don't have heaps of spare time to give to this forum any more, and at this point it's getting harder to justify reading even the twitter thread because the ratio of useful information to bickering is so low. I'll agree, combing through 8 pages with maybe 4 tweets when I get home from school is kinda a pain, but I won't tell people to stop discussing their opinions and such. Just so long as it's about what is presented in the thread... I've just decided it's bigger than all of us can handle, at this point. The hype train is realz.
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Post by tmjfin on Nov 19, 2016 19:49:04 GMT
I'm just afraid the scales will tip over and they reveal too much, because they're pressured by the small "outroar" from people moaning that bioware has been so reserved for so long. Me myself is just fine with bioware holding it in. Give me 5min gameplay on dec. first and I'm good to go and ready for surprises in game. But that's just me. I'm with you on this one. BioWare usually spoils too many things of upcoming games and I don't have a willpower to not suck in every bits of info they give, so I'm quite happy with this approach. Three examples from ME2: Archangel (Garrus, is that you? Yeah, knew it already), Okeer (nope, Grunt, what a surprise) and Jack (That's Jack? Yup, BioWare introduced her already before launch).
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Post by melbella on Nov 19, 2016 19:53:51 GMT
Three examples from ME2: Archangel (Garrus, is that you? Yeah, knew it already), Okeer (nope, Grunt, what a surprise) and Jack (That's Jack? Yup, BioWare introduced her already before launch).
Seriously? That's terrible. I didn't play ME2 until just before ME3 came out, so all of these things were surprises for me. I was excited to find Archangel was really Garrus; afraid I'd screwed up somehow when Okeer died; and, well, didn't really care one way or the other about Jack. Still, to know all of that beforehand and miss out on the reveals in-game would have sucked.
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Post by Nihilus on Nov 19, 2016 19:55:11 GMT
I'm just afraid the scales will tip over and they reveal too much, because they're pressured by the small "outroar" from people moaning that bioware has been so reserved for so long. Me myself is just fine with bioware holding it in. Give me 5min gameplay on dec. first and I'm good to go and ready for surprises in game. But that's just me. I'm with you on this one. BioWare usually spoils too many things of upcoming games and I don't have a willpower to not suck in every bits of info they give, so I'm quite happy with this approach. Three examples from ME2: Archangel (Garrus, is that you? Yeah, knew it already), Okeer (nope, Grunt, what a surprise) and Jack (That's Jack? Yup, BioWare introduced her already before launch). Yeah. And the fact that it often is accompanied with the traditional "this is awesome, look what we have and what we allow you to do" marketing spiel doesn't help either
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 19, 2016 19:55:28 GMT
StarlaBlaise @aimzhanibrayeva Is it DAI like banter or trilogy like banter?
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StarlaBlaise @aimzhanibrayeva can be heard everywhere (unless location is bugged) and mostly is not tied to events.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 19, 2016 19:57:31 GMT
I'm just afraid the scales will tip over and they reveal too much, because they're pressured by the small "outroar" from people moaning that bioware has been so reserved for so long. Me myself is just fine with bioware holding it in. Give me 5min gameplay on dec. first and I'm good to go and ready for surprises in game. But that's just me. I'm with you on this one. BioWare usually spoils too many things of upcoming games and I don't have a willpower to not suck in every bits of info they give, so I'm quite happy with this approach. Three examples from ME2: Archangel (Garrus, is that you? Yeah, knew it already), Okeer (nope, Grunt, what a surprise) and Jack (That's Jack? Yup, BioWare introduced her already before launch). I don't think their approach is to release less info, but more of waiting to be closer to release. Ian actually responded about a tweet I sent him about showing more about the squad soon, and he said 'Looking foward to it!'. I think by the time of release we'll know the members of the squad.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 19, 2016 19:58:18 GMT
I'm just afraid the scales will tip over and they reveal too much, because they're pressured by the small "outroar" from people moaning that bioware has been so reserved for so long. Me myself is just fine with bioware holding it in. Give me 5min gameplay on dec. first and I'm good to go and ready for surprises in game. But that's just me. I'm with you on this one. BioWare usually spoils too many things of upcoming games and I don't have a willpower to not suck in every bits of info they give, so I'm quite happy with this approach. Three examples from ME2: Archangel (Garrus, is that you? Yeah, knew it already), Okeer (nope, Grunt, what a surprise) and Jack (That's Jack? Yup, BioWare introduced her already before launch). Agreed on the character and story front. I know enough about each to be content. They usually reveal far too much, which is why I generally skip this prerelease build-up. When it comes to gameplay, though, I want to see some. This isn't really a spoiler, in my mind, and need not spoil character or story content. With the huge changes in gameplay structure, the new engine, the fact that we've seen zilch*... I really don't think a 5-min video is sufficient. We shall see if they choose to expound upon it, afterward. *I don't consider the tech demo, which primarily showed off lighting, to be a gameplay demo. I figured I'd forestall the inevitable nonsense counter before it was proffered.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:02:03 GMT
I'm talking about what's implied by her "I haven't stayed up that late since college" comment... long before the dance scene. Also, the player can click on the bed and she'll lie there with Shepard (just like any of the other LIs in the cabin after the SM) - thereby confirming it as a sexual relationship within ME2. I never saw it like that. The staying up late thing always had me think they just talked and before they knew it it was really late. And I disagree that cuddling confirms it being sexual in nature. It could mean that, but could not as well. I can bring myself to head canon it that way as well (and do sometimes do just that)... but it is still very suggestive of sexual flirting and there is no way around it if you want Kelly to look after the fish. So, to rephrase, I hope ME:A will have clearer "non-flirting" dialogue options with any "romance-able" characters and that they don't attach some unrelated "perk" to having flirted with a character again.
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Post by goishen on Nov 19, 2016 20:03:29 GMT
Agreed on the character and story front. I know enough about each to be content. They usually reveal far too much, which is why I generally skip this prerelease build-up. When it comes to gameplay, though, I want to see some. This isn't really a spoiler, in my mind, and need not spoil character or story content. With the huge changes in gameplay structure, the new engine, the fact that we've seen zilch*... I really don't think a 5-min video is sufficient. We shall see if tyey choose to expound upon it, afterward. *I don't consider the tech demo, which primarily showed off lighting, to be a gameplay demo. I figured I'd forestall the inevitable nonsense counter before it was proffered. I will prolly go into a cocoon the first of the year. I just wanna make sure that game play's good before I do.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 19, 2016 20:03:45 GMT
I'm with you on this one. BioWare usually spoils too many things of upcoming games and I don't have a willpower to not suck in every bits of info they give, so I'm quite happy with this approach. Three examples from ME2: Archangel (Garrus, is that you? Yeah, knew it already), Okeer (nope, Grunt, what a surprise) and Jack (That's Jack? Yup, BioWare introduced her already before launch). I don't think their approach is to release less info, but more of waiting to be closer to release. Ian actually responded about a tweet I sent him about showing more about the squad soon, and he said 'Looking foward to it!'. I think by the time of release we'll know the members of the squad. Yeah, it's pretty obvious that this is their intent. As annoying as it might have been for us hard core ME junkies, it totally made sense to wait until the very last minute to really get the marketing rolling. No one else is going to be worried about MEA a year or more before release; and no one else could sustain interest for very long. Now that it's begun, they will steadily trickle info until near release. They may have jumped the gun with the very early announcement and all, but the 4-month marketing window makes sense.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 19, 2016 20:06:59 GMT
I never saw it like that. The staying up late thing always had me think they just talked and before they knew it it was really late. And I disagree that cuddling confirms it being sexual in nature. It could mean that, but could not as well. I can bring myself to head canon it that way as well (and do sometimes do just that)... but it is still very suggestive of sexual flirting and there is no way around it if you want Kelly to look after the fish. So, to rephrase, I hope ME:A will have clearer "non-flirting" dialogue options with any "romance-able" characters and that they don't attach some unrelated "perk" to having flirted with a character again. I agree with that. While Kelly is my favorite romance, I would have liked it even more if they treated it like the flirts in say Josephine's romance where they were a lot more innocent than suggestive to fit both kinds of relationships like the writers intended. And yeah her caring for your pets should have been achievable without doing her romance to the point of the dinner date. I definitely think they will have what you hop they have though. Bioware has come a long way since ME2 and from the articles it seems they've come even farther and will have what you want.
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 19, 2016 20:18:44 GMT
It's really frustrating to come back to 10 new pages and have 80% of those posts be irrelevant stuff. I don't have heaps of spare time to give to this forum any more, and at this point it's getting harder to justify reading even the twitter thread because the ratio of useful information to bickering is so low. I'll agree, combing through 8 pages with maybe 4 tweets when I get home from school is kinda a pain, but I won't tell people to stop discussing their opinions and such. Just so long as it's about what is presented in the thread... I was doing my best to keep the Archive Threads up to date, but in the end it just became too unwieldy. Since you cannot directly copy/paste from post-to-post without losing text formatting, images, video, etc., I had to view individual posts (which had images/video/longer conversations) in Edit mode, then View as BBCode/Copy that/Paste into new post/Back out of Edit mode/Go to next post... all on a board which is somewhat laggy to begin with. It took on average about an hour on Saturday to update both Archive Threads during those slow weeks, but now that we're full steam ahead... it would become a second job just to maintain that. Yeah, it's chattier here than usual, and it'll be up and down until release. But if everyone could make it an effort to keep it OT, and start new threads if you want to carry on longer discussions, it should sort itself out. Clearly the hype train... brakes for no one.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2016 20:26:59 GMT
I'll agree, combing through 8 pages with maybe 4 tweets when I get home from school is kinda a pain, but I won't tell people to stop discussing their opinions and such. Just so long as it's about what is presented in the thread... I was doing my best to keep the Archive Threads up to date, but in the end it just became too unwieldy. Since you cannot directly copy/paste from post-to-post without losing text formatting, images, video, etc., I had to view individual posts (which had images/video/longer conversations) in Edit mode, then View as BBCode/Copy that/Paste into new post/Back out of Edit mode/Go to next post... all on a board which is somewhat laggy to begin with. It took on average about an hour on Saturday to update both Archive Threads during those slow weeks, but now that we're full steam ahead... it would become a second job just to maintain that. Yeah, it's chattier here than usual, and it'll be up and down until release. But if everyone could make it an effort to keep it OT, and start new threads if you want to carry on longer discussions, it should sort itself out. Clearly the hype train... brakes for no one. Hrungr - Why not do the reverse of what you have been doing?... post only the tweets in only the Archive Thread... and then, IF someone wants to discuss a tweet further, they can take whatever steps are needed to repeat that individual tweet in their post that initiates a discussion about it. That way, the tweets themselves won't get lost in a myriad of discussion and people who don't want to see inadvertent "discussion-related" spoilers can just confidently read the Twitter Archive thread to see all the tweets.
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