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Post by elitepinecone on Nov 22, 2016 8:11:58 GMT
If you want the post explained you might have read the article about more organic romance instead of: "Everyone gets two romances because we think thats fair and nobody gets left out that way." I don't get it: what's more organic about romance options that aren't distributed equally? Presumably you're excited about the prospect of "organic" romances because you think artificially making them equal is a bad thing, but weighting the distribution of options in any direction is going to be artificial. Do you think it would be more organic if MEA had five gay options and two straight ones? The goal of DA:I was to give everyone a minimum of two choices, and I think that worked really well. Literally the only reason you could be upset with it (and you seem upset!) is that other people are getting options and you aren't, which is a really petty way to handle it. An inclusive approach to romance is pretty much one of the major selling points of Bioware's games these days, and I don't think for a moment that they're going to stop doing it.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 22, 2016 8:14:37 GMT
There was a question posed? If you want the post explained you might have read the article about more organic romance instead of: "Everyone gets two romances because we think thats fair and nobody gets left out that way." In other words im glad to see we're moving beyond the SJW inspired nightmare that was romance in DAI and being given something that actually respects our collective intelligence. Dunno why you'd take issue with that though. Seems a strange thing to butt hurt about. Unless the use of the acronym messed with your head. In which case I forgive you. *Pours Ryncol* I said make questions or reply. You do realize we will still probably get more at least two romances available to everyone, right (may even more)? The fact that they won't be on the same number for everyone (which DAI already didn't have) doesn't preclude that. I don't get singling out DAI in this since DA2 and ME3 had two romances available for everyone as well, plus more romance for certain people. The only difference between DA2 and DAI is that they were bisexual, and female characters get one instead of two additional romances. Wondering about the relevance doesn't mean I'm butthurt. I just didn't understand the connection. Which there still isn't, especially because I think it's better to wait and see how the romances are divided before you think Bioware vastly changed approach. *Doesn't read* But let me take a quick guess: Its on about some shithouse argument defending romance options, instead of explaining his opposition to something he readily admits he doesnt understand. BSN forever, forever BSN. *Sips Ryncol*
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Post by hammerstorm on Nov 22, 2016 8:16:57 GMT
Is it a bit odd that we have a Salarian pilot for the scout ship of the human Ark? If we are taking over Tempest from DadRyder it is possible that most of the crew is people he choosed. Or it is something that was decided by the Arks leaders when they created the Pathfinders.
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Post by zipzap2000 on Nov 22, 2016 8:17:40 GMT
If you want the post explained you might have read the article about more organic romance instead of: "Everyone gets two romances because we think thats fair and nobody gets left out that way." I don't get it: what's more organic about romance options that aren't distributed equally? Presumably you're excited about the prospect of "organic" romances because you think artificially making them equal is a bad thing, but weighting the distribution of options in any direction is going to be artificial. Do you think it would be more organic if MEA had five gay options and two straight ones? The goal of DA:I was to give everyone a minimum of two choices, and I think that worked really well. Literally the only reason you could be upset with it (and you seem upset!) is that other people are getting options and you aren't, which is a really petty way to handle it. An inclusive approach to romance is pretty much one of the major selling points of Bioware's games these days, and I don't think for a moment that they're going to stop doing it. Pinecone I think the options described in the articles. Random encounters People who say no. More than three options each. Are far more organic and representative of life. I met my partner at a party after being knocked back twice. And after several one night stands. The romance in the article is as organic as it comes. Take my tone with elder as you like. But clearly ge was taking a swipe. Not my fault i give back.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 22, 2016 8:30:22 GMT
I said make questions or reply. You do realize we will still probably get more at least two romances available to everyone, right (may even more)? The fact that they won't be on the same number for everyone (which DAI already didn't have) doesn't preclude that. I don't get singling out DAI in this since DA2 and ME3 had two romances available for everyone as well, plus more romance for certain people. The only difference between DA2 and DAI is that they were bisexual, and female characters get one instead of two additional romances. Wondering about the relevance doesn't mean I'm butthurt. I just didn't understand the connection. Which there still isn't, especially because I think it's better to wait and see how the romances are divided before you think Bioware vastly changed approach. *Doesn't read* But let me take a quick guess: Its on about some shithouse argument defending romance options, instead of explaining his opposition to something he readily admits he doesnt understand. BSN forever, forever BSN. *Sips Ryncol* I didn't defend anything. I just said DAI was the same of DA2 or ME3 i providing multiple options for everyone, and that MEA won't be different. But hey, keep assuming stuff about me. Just as you assumed I'm an SJW (which I'm not) just because I questioned the relevance of the article with your assumption of the SJW apocalypse being averted.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 22, 2016 8:33:30 GMT
Pinecone I think the options described in the articles. Random encounters People who say no. More than three options each. Are far more organic and representative of life. I met my partner at a party after being knocked back twice. And after several one night stands. The romance in the article is as organic as it comes. Take my tone with elder as you like. But clearly ge was taking a swipe. Not my fault i give back. Providing Bioware delivers, yeah, it sounds better. I wasn't taking any swipe. I just don't think the article is relevant with what you said.
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Post by Rascoth on Nov 22, 2016 10:00:16 GMT
I love you guys, but can you tag spoilers? I'm talking about posts about the article. While I don't mind them, there're others that might stop coming here just because of this. I know those are not huge spoilers, but still
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Post by elitepinecone on Nov 22, 2016 10:42:02 GMT
Are far more organic and representative of life. I met my partner at a party after being knocked back twice. And after several one night stands. The romance in the article is as organic as it comes. Cool. But that has literally nothing to do with "social justice warriors" or the numbers of romances in DA:I. You're implying that the distribution of romances in DA:I was a bad thing, and holding up ME:A's system as a better example, when really they're two completely different issues. A game with sexual/gender diversity can also have "organic" romances that are representative of life - the characters available for romance are a different issue to the types of romances in the game. By all means criticise DA:I for lacking light romances/one night stands/rejection/etc, but don't be surprised if people take issue when you throw around language like "SJW Apocalypse" to describe being unhappy with DA:I providing a minimum of two options for male and female players who were gay and straight. Given that the alternative is that one or more groups of players only have one option, it's a decision that was far more about simple fairness than social justice.
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Post by The Elder King on Nov 22, 2016 10:59:45 GMT
Are far more organic and representative of life. I met my partner at a party after being knocked back twice. And after several one night stands. The romance in the article is as organic as it comes. Cool. But that has literally nothing to do with "social justice warriors" or the numbers of romances in DA:I. You're implying that the distribution of romances in DA:I was a bad thing, and holding up ME:A's system as a better example, when really they're two completely different issues. A game with sexual/gender diversity can also have "organic" romances that are representative of life - the characters available for romance are a different issue to the types of romances in the game. By all means criticise DA:I for lacking light romances/one night stands/rejection/etc, but don't be surprised if people take issue when you throw around language like "SJW Apocalypse" to describe being unhappy with DA:I providing a minimum of two options for male and female players who were gay and straight. Given that the alternative is that one or more groups of players only have one option, it's a decision that was far more about simple fairness than social justice. The ironic part is that even in DAI is clear Bioware went for the 2/2/2 approach just as a compromise, as with DA2 with their all bisexual/playersexual option. Because with the time extension, they didn't develop two bisexual romances for everyone. They made two romance for straight women, with race gating as well. MEA will (probably) be better, but it's not because of a change of approach (which is the same since DA2: trying to give everyone multiple options), but because of more resources in the characters budget, which is hinted already by what Walters said about squadmates having more lines compared to MEA.
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 22, 2016 11:05:39 GMT
And on that note, let's get back to the tweets As elitepinecone will appreciate more than anyone, diversions in the Twitter thread are inevitable (and probably more tolerated on this forum than on BSN Prime), but given that we know so little about MEA's romance mechanics, perhaps we can park these thoughts until we do?
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Post by grumpykrogan on Nov 22, 2016 11:41:56 GMT
And on that note, let's get back to the tweets Hell no! zipzap is about to start headbutting aliens!
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Nov 22, 2016 12:43:30 GMT
I love you guys, but can you tag spoilers? I'm talking about posts about the article. While I don't mind them, there're others that might stop coming here just because of this. I know those are not huge spoilers, but still Yep I'm on the verge of not coming to the MEA subforum all together...
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Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Want to learn more about @jharacampbell & @scottyartist's incredible hard work on the Tempest? Click here. #space Fabrice Condominas @faburisuHome sweet flying home Jess Hara Campbell @jharacampbell Oh, lookatthat! The truth is out there! I hope you love this ship as much as we do. #space ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
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Post by Sartoz on Nov 22, 2016 13:35:05 GMT
I love you guys, but can you tag spoilers? I'm talking about posts about the article. While I don't mind them, there're others that might stop coming here just because of this. I know those are not huge spoilers, but still ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
How can it be spoiler when the info is available? Are you saying the subforum of Sarah and Scott are spoilers too?
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Post by Hrungr on Nov 22, 2016 13:42:09 GMT
Tom Taylorson @taylorson Andromeda's a "Saga" eh? Well, I'd like to be there for that! If I'm not fired for Twittering first...
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Tom Taylorson @taylorson From the ME:A Facebook Feed: Your new pilot is a Salarian. #MassEffectAndromeda He's cool too. Not like that #LiamInTheSensiblePants
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Mass Effect @masseffect On December 1, you'll get a first look at Mass Effect: Andromeda gameplay at @thegameawards.
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Tom Taylorson @taylorson Andromeda's a "Saga" eh? Well, I'd like to be there for that! If I'm not fired for Twittering first... Michael Gamble @gamblemike funny you should say that.... Tom Taylorson @taylorson You heard it here first everyone. No longer working on ME. You can unfollow me now. Back to the audiobooks...
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Deon @n7allen I'm so ready for some more Mass Effect multiplayer! I've been missing it lately. Andromeda looks great guys
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Michael Gamble @gamblemike Cheated on MEA for a few weeks with Halo 5 legendary. That's all wrapped. Back to spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaceeeeee (the other kind). Adam Wigley @adam4wigleyPlease tell me ME:A has a better campaign than H5, the writing in that was freaking atrocious. Just a terrible campaign. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeI think so. But I'm biased
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Colin Campbell @ccampbellart In a bitter twist of irony following some of last night's tweeting, biomasika is now helping fix a bug that was originally on MY plate.
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