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Post by The Elder King on Feb 16, 2017 22:26:09 GMT
There are better ways to say this, and in any case, what's the point to tell him about it? I'm sure he knows there are people that won't buy MEA because of ME3. And he did understand that people got hurt by ME3, given his analogy. More a response to the picture under the spoiler tag, like Gamble just did some epic mic drop when he was just being snarky. His analogy was basically saying people are unreasonable to not want to buy MEA because they were burned by ME3 (the whole I never spoke to my best friend again because he annoyed me once") Ah, fair enough on the first part. I think his response might've been influenced by the way the tweet was posted. I don't agree with him in any case, though I do think that each game has to be judged by its merit. But I understand that person's mindset.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 22:27:41 GMT
They did it so they could spend more work hours procrastinating because fans force them to be on twitter all day.
Seriously, can we do an accumulated count of how many tweets each day the total amount of BioWare devs per studio write? It's pretty excessive isn't it? Some of them seem to be on there all the time. That's gotta be a lot of wasted time.
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Post by bshep on Feb 16, 2017 22:28:48 GMT
Mhmm, it doesn't help when you have people like Shinobi giving out random info that they believe to be true/or may have been true at some point, only for it to create expectations that the devs can't fill because it was never gonna happen that way Hence why we've gotten this style of marketing and what seems to be very little info in the first place. So whatever they put out is exact and on point, so fans can't then come back at them all "Oh but you said this and I was shown this." etc. If I was BioWare I would find Shinobi fucking annoying, constantly feeding info because it makes him feel proud for being an insider, and then it just makes fans ask about stuff they wouldn't have known about. Or maybe it's because I just find Shinobi to be really annoying myself "Just saw a little sneak peak of the latest [whatever]. It will be amazing."
It's the same thing every time and some people still fall for it. Sometimes i wish he meet the same fate as his avatar on Jurassic Park...hehehe
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 22:31:38 GMT
He's just so... ergh! I just can't get past the fact that he's basically sold his own soul just to be able to see sneak peaks at BioWare. There's no way in hell anyone would actually think that anything is that good every time they see new behind the scenes stuff. He just writes that because he knows it draws attention to what an insider he is.
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Post by Rascoth on Feb 16, 2017 22:32:11 GMT
Jeff Theriault fieldflux Guys, I think its happened. Our office has cracked. We're listening to All Star. Makes me wonder if will we be able to listen to digital soundtrack right after pre-load or need to wait for actual release date.
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Feb 16, 2017 22:35:13 GMT
But I understand that person's mindset. So do I, but the guy didn't have to be a dick about it. It's one thing to vent on a forum, it's another to go into someone personal account to yell "YOUR WORK SUCKS". ( Also, if he doesn't care anymore, he shopuld not take the time to go to the person who's doing the thing to yell "I DON`T CARE ABOUT THE THING YOU`RE DOING NO MORE". But that is splitting hairs).
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Post by The Elder King on Feb 16, 2017 22:35:26 GMT
He's just so... ergh! I just can't get past the fact that he's basically sold his own soul just to be able to see sneak peaks at BioWare. There's no way in hell anyone would actually think that anything is that good every time they see new behind the scenes stuff. He just writes that because he knows it draws attention to what an insider he is. You do realize he leaks stuff about other games, and said the same good stuff about other games? Not that we have to take anything he says for granted, but I doubt he sold himself over Bioware.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 22:37:44 GMT
True enough. Nothing wrong with it anyhow. We should be grateful, if only it didn't feel so annoying everytime he pops up "Hey, look at me, I have secret sauce"
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Post by Iakus on Feb 16, 2017 22:41:30 GMT
But I understand that person's mindset. So do I, but the guy didn't have to be a dick about it. It's one thing to vent on a forum, it's another to go into someone personal account to yell "YOUR WORK SUCKS". ( Also, if he doesn't care anymore, he shopuld not take the time to go to the person who's doing the thing to yell "I DON`T CARE ABOUT THE THING YOU`RE DOING NO MORE". But that is splitting hairs). Except he didn't say "YOUR WORK SUCKS" he said, ME3 sucks (or more specifically that it "ruined it", presumably MEA or the Mass Effect IP in general for him) And where else is he going to make his opinion known? The official forum? Oh, wait...
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 22:44:29 GMT
Who are we talking about, again? Can't seem to find the starting point of this line of discussion.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 16, 2017 22:46:01 GMT
Who are we talking about, again? Can't seem to find the starting point of this line of discussion.
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Feb 16, 2017 22:49:50 GMT
And where else is he going to make his opinion known? The official forum? Oh, wait... If he's already burned out and there's nothing they can do to win him back, why should his opinion be known to the people who are making the game, anyway? I mean, I complain about a lot of the stuff I consume all the time, but that's because I still consume it and wanna see it improved.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 22:50:28 GMT
I understand them, but I don't get why that one person is relevant or why a BW employee blocking yet another twitter user is anything newsworthy.
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Post by hotdogbsg on Feb 16, 2017 22:52:39 GMT
Nah. Just more general cluelessness on how anyone could not love the "Art". They just don't get how negatively it affected some people. I think they do get it but are probably sick of hearing about it. Yes, the endings were god awful but it's coming up on five years since ME3 was released. Some people need to let it go.
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Post by Crim on Feb 16, 2017 22:54:10 GMT
Meanwhile over at the Twitter thread... le sigh.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 16, 2017 22:55:02 GMT
And where else is he going to make his opinion known? The official forum? Oh, wait... If he's already burned out and there's nothing they can do to win him back, why should his opinion be known to the people who are making the game, anyway? I mean, I complain about a lot of the stuff I consume all the time, but that's because I still consume it and wanna see it improved. Why do people comment on politicians they didn't vote for? Why do people comment on movies/books/tv shows they dislike Why do people write angry letters to stores where they felt they were treated poorly? In short, why do people complain? To be heard.
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Post by Iakus on Feb 16, 2017 22:56:07 GMT
Nah. Just more general cluelessness on how anyone could not love the "Art". They just don't get how negatively it affected some people. I think they do get it but are probably sick of hearing about it. Yes, the endings were god awful but it's coming up on five years since ME3 was released. Some people need to let it go. Did they seriously expect NOT to hear about it in their first Mass Effect game since that debacle? Edit: Aaaand, I'm out this is derailing.
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Post by Elessar on Feb 16, 2017 22:58:21 GMT
I think they do get it but are probably sick of hearing about it. Yes, the endings were god awful but it's coming up on five years since ME3 was released. Some people need to let it go. Did they seriously expect NOT to hear about it in their first Mass Effect game since that debacle? Edit: Aaaand, I'm out this is derailing. Thank God!
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Feb 16, 2017 22:59:12 GMT
Dougie @dou67as I hear it's getting Boycotted. ME3 ruined it for me anyways! Michael Gamble @gamblemike*shrug* once my best friend annoyed me so I decided to never talk to him again. His loss right?! People still salty about ME3 it's been almost 5 years my dudes... let it go... (until they make a reboot/remake of the trilogy at least) Well, they can always nuke twitter to get ride of these comments... oh wait!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 22:59:32 GMT
It's normal to vent, although some particularly on the internet do it excessively, but when you have an opportunity on Twitter to do it directly to the people that inadvertently caused your venting, you're asking to be shut up by them, and BioWare because they're lazy and whatnot have been facing a lot of backlash particularly on Twitter, it's come to the point where the mere sign of a skeptical line of questioning from Smudboy to Mike Laidlaw caused him to be blocked even before lashing out or saying anything that's particularly rude.
BioWare just don't want to deal with our shit. They go on Twitter to decompress, to share their love and to hear thoughtful feedback and not disingenuous or outright angry ranting. They know people don't like what they did with ME3. They may not still know why to this day (although I'm sure some do, but Gamble isn't our man here) but there's nothing they can do about that anymore.
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 16, 2017 22:59:59 GMT
I'm going to go off-topic, momentarily. No big deal, seeing as we're there already.
The unlimited "likes" of this forum are a real nice feature that I've never ceased appreciating. On days like this, I feel a bit like I'm just throwing them out there, but, "Hey, I'm liking what I'm reading."
Sadly, most of what I'm reading, despite being neutral and not at all inflammatory, would've been unacceptable on the old BSN. You can't speak ill of mom and dad, after all. I don't miss that place at all, as I knew I eventually wouldn't. (It didn't take nearly this long to "stop missing it", lest you think I'm ill.)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2017 23:01:42 GMT
Loot Gaming @lootgaminghqAnnouncing the #MassEffectAndromeda Limited Edition Crate! More info at loot.cr/meacrateHrungr'd thread is moving fast today.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Feb 16, 2017 23:03:41 GMT
I agree. Moderation is much better here and regardless nobody is in post-ME3-ending mode where Mac and Casey or whatever other dev gets so much shit that topic have to be locked down, and if there is content that would've been worth locking down on the old boards it's still not hurtful. I also feel like some of the more... curiously unique, posters haven't returned here, which is nice. Some topics on the old BSN just made you go
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Post by Element Zero on Feb 16, 2017 23:04:49 GMT
Loot Gaming @lootgaminghqAnnouncing the #MassEffectAndromeda Limited Edition Crate! More info at loot.cr/meacrate A $50 mystery crate? I'll pass, but at least the hype train is full speed ahead.
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