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Post by lurkinglurker on Mar 18, 2017 21:27:34 GMT
Company is full of social justice clowns, Racists and sexists is the new cool since its against men and white men at that. Good job Bioware I know who you're talking about. Have a look at this just in case you're being serious. 75% Ironic (¬‿¬) @synthovine Hey, aarynflynn , since you're so up on not attacking people, are you going to address comments by @manveerheir?? Aaryn Flynn aarynflynn No, but Manveer is no longer with BioWare (see his Twitter bio) Now, back to MEA related tweets and discussion
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 18, 2017 21:27:59 GMT
shinobi602 @shinobi602Can't go into detail but Mass Effect: Andromeda really opens up after you leave Eos. There's a ton of great story beats to follow up on. Yep, so Eos is the Hinterlands, good to know...
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 18, 2017 21:28:40 GMT
yup keep living your life with your head in the sand, its drama for sure but some is based on stupid actions by Bioware employees and they will get the recognition they deserve. ... right. The only thing such attitude deserves is ignore list.
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Post by crom on Mar 18, 2017 21:30:31 GMT
so you condone the racist slants that an employee of bioware has spewed all over the internet. Good to know
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Post by SofaJockey on Mar 18, 2017 21:37:45 GMT
With some level of irony, this forum is now a 'relative' haven from the hateful pond life that inhabits parts of the internet. (and if any of that comes here that goes beyond 'reasonable criticism' we'll try to tidy it up)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 21:38:10 GMT
so you condone the racist slants that an employee of bioware has spewed all over the internet. Good to know No one is condoning it. We were actually talking about the girl that was rumored to be lead animator getting attacked, not Manveer. Even so according to Flynn he doesn't work there anymore, so they did take steps to get rid of him. Will you judge a product done by hundreds on the opinions of one? Most likely there are people in every development team, every film crew etc that you would not like or get along with, doesn't make the final product lesser.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 18, 2017 21:40:16 GMT
Honestly I'm getting flashbacks from the ME3 ending shitstorm. Is it really that bad that people again harassing Bioware employees? Even before the game is even OUT? Everywhere I see when someone mentions ME:A, the game is getting slammed really hard. It's not just Youtube, it's Facebook, Subreddits outside the ME one, even it appears in Knowyourmeme. Even the gaming Facebook group of my university where people are very timid are starting posting this, all saying "the death of Bioware", "2017 and they can't make better animations than ME1" etc. This seems alot larger than the "vocal minority" people are mentioning. Besides, a stroll through the early access impressions they are generally very positive despite the obvious flaws. It has been a few years already since death threats had been sent to individual developers for doing something as egregious as changing some stats on a weapon - hence I'm entirely NOT surprised the vocal horde is ready for another witch-hunt, and they won't care if they have a proper person or not. Truth of a matter is that the horde was ready to get vocal at the slightest of things - they just needed a pretext. I remember that when the first major trailer has hit and we saw both Cora and Liam, the youtube comment section was full of "Bioware is SJW" and "forcing PC culture down our throats" and downvotes, just because one of the squad members is black and a woman on the team has short hair So it's not really that much of a surprise that they took they've blown the whole animation thing out of proportion and use it as justification to harass people and try and make it seem like the whole world hates MEA. ... Some of them even come and try stir some sh*t over here, like the delinquent I see on Twitter thread right now. I'd say that they'll poison the well for some players - or at least they'd try. Yet even with the whole vocal minority and negativity there's a ton of positive response that I've seen. I believe I can contrast between a small vocal group that criticise some aspect in something, like Overwatch is often being called Overated, TF2 clone, overprised and so on, but in response many people say that they really enjoy the game. For ME:A what I see is pages upon pages of non-stop negativity, nothing positive to say at all, and alot about facial animations of all things, like they are more important than gameplay/story/characters. Those who do mention it they say that it is a game designed for 12 years olds o_O
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Post by lurkinglurker on Mar 18, 2017 21:42:16 GMT
Tom RyderSon @taylorsonJust Cora Re-parking The Nomad. Or venting because of some recent crummy Cora press? ;-) (Sorry for the lower quality. Only way I know to extract this. Here's a link to the gif in its actual quality: gfycat.com/MeatyFlawlessIridescentshark )
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 18, 2017 21:47:15 GMT
It has been a few years already since death threats had been sent to individual developers for doing something as egregious as changing some stats on a weapon - hence I'm entirely NOT surprised the vocal horde is ready for another witch-hunt, and they won't care if they have a proper person or not. Truth of a matter is that the horde was ready to get vocal at the slightest of things - they just needed a pretext. I remember that when the first major trailer has hit and we saw both Cora and Liam, the youtube comment section was full of "Bioware is SJW" and "forcing PC culture down our throats" and downvotes, just because one of the squad members is black and a woman on the team has short hair So it's not really that much of a surprise that they took they've blown the whole animation thing out of proportion and use it as justification to harass people and try and make it seem like the whole world hates MEA. ... Some of them even come and try stir some sh*t over here, like the delinquent I see on Twitter thread right now. I'd say that they'll poison the well for some players - or at least they'd try. Yet even with the whole vocal minority and negativity there's a ton of positive response that I've seen. I believe I can contrast between a small vocal group that criticise some aspect in something, like Overwatch is often being called Overated, TF2 clone, overprised and so on, but in response many people say that they really enjoy the game. For ME:A what I see is pages upon pages of non-stop negativity, nothing positive to say at all, and alot about facial animations of all things, like they are more important than gameplay/story/characters. Those who do mention it they say that it is a game designed for 12 years olds o_O... even more of a reason to not treat those folks seriously. Also - it really depends where you're looking. On youtube alone I've seen both videos that have been swarmed by nothing but negative comments and those where 95% of response has been positive (and I'm talking about videos with over 50k and 100k or more views).
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Post by chris2365 on Mar 18, 2017 21:51:26 GMT
Not exactly Twitter related, but has anyone heard of any launch parties happening for MEA? I know they are having one in Edmonton, but I figured they would also have one here in Montreal, where I'm from. I'd love to go show the devs some love and support and meet some fellow fans! Especially after all this controversy, I think they still have to feel proud of what they accomplished, faults in the game and all
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 18, 2017 21:58:22 GMT
I believe I can contrast between a small vocal group that criticise some aspect in something, like Overwatch is often being called Overated, TF2 clone, overprised and so on, but in response many people say that they really enjoy the game. For ME:A what I see is pages upon pages of non-stop negativity, nothing positive to say at all, and alot about facial animations of all things, like they are more important than gameplay/story/characters. Those who do mention it they say that it is a game designed for 12 years olds o_O... even more of a reason to not treat those folks seriously. Also - it really depends where you're looking. On youtube alone I've seen both videos that have been swarmed by nothing but negative comments and those where 95% of response has been positive. Ye but they are everywhere, not just Youtube. If a critic of your game enters Knowyourmeme and becomes popular you know you screwed up. I know the type of people that post in the gaming facebook page of my university, they are mature reasonable people and some of them are really smart. Even they bash the game and no one has anything positive to say.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Mar 18, 2017 22:00:20 GMT
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Post by midnight tea on Mar 18, 2017 22:10:24 GMT
... even more of a reason to not treat those folks seriously. Also - it really depends where you're looking. On youtube alone I've seen both videos that have been swarmed by nothing but negative comments and those where 95% of response has been positive. Ye but they are everywhere, not just Youtube. If a critic of your game enters Knowyourmeme and becomes popular you know you screwed up. I know the type of people that post in the gaming facebook page of my university, they are mature reasonable people and some of them are really smart. Even they bash the game and no one has anything positive to say. Last time I checked, memes aren't necessarily a good measure of thing's popularity - only that certain thing has entered a stream of consciousness of Internet in general. And I certainly don't know people from your FB group, but I also know mature, reasonable people - many of them smart - who fall prey to confirmation or negativity bias from time to time, only for me to ask them why exactly they bash the thing and find out that many don't really have a good answer for it.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 18, 2017 22:24:20 GMT
Ye but they are everywhere, not just Youtube. If a critic of your game enters Knowyourmeme and becomes popular you know you screwed up. I know the type of people that post in the gaming facebook page of my university, they are mature reasonable people and some of them are really smart. Even they bash the game and no one has anything positive to say. Last time I checked, memes are necessarily a good measure of thing's popularity - only that certain thing has entered a stream of consciousness of Internet in general. And I certainly don't know people from your FB group, but I also know mature, reasonable people - many of them smart - who fall prey to confirmation or negativity bias from time to time, only for me to ask them why exactly they bash the thing and find out that many don't really have a good answer for it. Memes themselves? No. Popularity of memes? There is something to consider here. Keep in mind that behind every joke there is a kernel truth. The rest, fair point. I'm not surprised by the negativity, I'm just surprised by the scale of it. I guess we all just have to wait and see. I'm buying the game unless reviewers and players tell me it's unplayable because of game breaking bugs. My stance on it remains that the facial animations on the go are tolerable for me and it is a minor thing for me, the CC is terrible but people already came up with good looking Ryders so I will take pointers from them so its disappointing but not deal breaking, for me gameplay is first. If it is fun, it is well worth the investment.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Mar 18, 2017 22:31:48 GMT
Looking forward to playing the game! Also, can you say for sure if you will be able to allow us to manual save/quick save in "priority missions"/critical missions in the next patch? It would greatly improve my and other people's experience with the game if you do this. Just let us save when out of combat in general please. I can't promise anything, but that is indeed one of several things currently under consideration for patching.
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Post by bshep on Mar 18, 2017 22:38:28 GMT
so you condone the racist slants that an employee of bioware has spewed all over the internet. Good to know No one is condoning it. We were actually talking about the girl that was rumored to be animator getting attacked, not Manveer. Even so according to Flynn he doesn't work there anymore, so they did take steps to get rid of him. Will you judge a product done by hundreds on the opinions of one? Most likely there are people in every development team, every film crew etc that you would not like or get along with, doesn't make the final product lesser. Don't feed it. Tom RyderSon @taylorsonJust Cora Re-parking The Nomad. Or venting because of some recent crummy Cora press? ;-) (Sorry for the lower quality. Only way I know to extract this. Here's a link to the gif in its actual quality: gfycat.com/MeatyFlawlessIridescentshark ) I told you to not park the damn vehicle here! hehe..funny bug. Ye but they are everywhere, not just Youtube. If a critic of your game enters Knowyourmeme and becomes popular you know you screwed up. I know the type of people that post in the gaming facebook page of my university, they are mature reasonable people and some of them are really smart. Even they bash the game and no one has anything positive to say. Last time I checked, memes are necessarily a good measure of thing's popularity - only that certain thing has entered a stream of consciousness of Internet in general. And I certainly don't know people from your FB group, but I also know mature, reasonable people - many of them smart - who fall prey to confirmation or negativity bias from time to time, only for me to ask them why exactly they bash the thing and find out that many don't really have a good answer for it. Yeah. I called out a guy yesterday in one of my whatsapp groups who was hating on the game just because he saw the video of someone doing the same without actually having watched neither brifiengs or gameplay related videos.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 23:08:04 GMT
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Post by Andrew Waples on Mar 18, 2017 23:10:53 GMT
So...is it bad for a game to already be at patch 1.04 before the game is even out yet? It just started downloading on ps4 now. Its a 1.9ish gb download, FYI.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Mar 18, 2017 23:12:43 GMT
So...is it bad for a game to already be at patch 1.04 before the game is even out yet? It just started downloading on ps4 now. Its a 1.9ish gb download, FYI. Patch notes? Without spoilery ones of course.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 23:12:56 GMT
So...is it bad for a game to already be at patch 1.04 before the game is even out yet? It just started downloading on ps4 now. Its a 1.9ish gb download, FYI. Hm, i think that is the day one patch. It was around that size atleast.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Mar 18, 2017 23:20:20 GMT
So...is it bad for a game to already be at patch 1.04 before the game is even out yet? It just started downloading on ps4 now. Its a 1.9ish gb download, FYI. That much? Are we sure they didn't somehow just mess up the day-1 patch?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 23:23:02 GMT
So...is it bad for a game to already be at patch 1.04 before the game is even out yet? It just started downloading on ps4 now. Its a 1.9ish gb download, FYI. My PC download is at version 1.0.0.0 and I just checked to see if there was an update, there was not.
So my guess is, for non-early access folks, the d1 patch is beginning its deployment, with your PS4 game getting the update before my PC game.
If it hasn't started already, I'd expect XB to be getting the patch soon.
As long as PC gets its patch prior to the game unlocking, I'm fine with that.
Once the game unlocks, I intend to download/install the pre-order and deluxe bonuses before game start.
Once I start the game, will do the MP tutorial, before starting the actual SP portion.
I'm excited ... in case you couldn't tell.
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Post by bshep on Mar 18, 2017 23:27:42 GMT
So...is it bad for a game to already be at patch 1.04 before the game is even out yet? It just started downloading on ps4 now. Its a 1.9ish gb download, FYI. It's not. It's called day one patch.
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Post by bigbad on Mar 18, 2017 23:30:18 GMT
Both my trial and non-trial version are at 1.0.0.0
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