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Post by Brannegan on Mar 24, 2017 11:59:55 GMT
I'm on ps4 and so far my game's been eerily silent. No one talks out in the field. Makes me sad. Nothing ever matches up to that first play through, and I'm gonna end up completing the game, while having never heard my teammates banter. You don't even hear it in the Nomad? I don't have this bug, but a friend of mine does and he says banter works in the Nomad. There seems to be 2-3 versions of this bug. 1. Banter hasn't happened ever 2. Banter happened at the start of the game but died after finishing Eos main quest 3. Banter only happens in Nomad Hopefully the patch fixes all of them! The bug also seems to be more common than the DAI one, but people don't realize they have it. Checked out a streamer and he was also having the bug but had no idea. Edit: Relevant
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 24, 2017 12:02:58 GMT
That DSP guy must be terrible then, easily one of the best parts of the game, with all that verticality, you want to constantly hide behind some crate? Use Tactical Cloak, or play Gears of Wars.
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Post by Pearl on Mar 24, 2017 12:05:06 GMT
That DSP guy must be terrible then see here
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Mar 24, 2017 12:09:05 GMT
Can't see it, busy, but he's terrible nonetheless.
People being afraid of challenges smh.
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Post by President of Boom on Mar 24, 2017 12:32:31 GMT
You don't even hear it in the Nomad? I don't have this bug, but a friend of mine does and he says banter works in the Nomad. There seems to be 2-3 versions of this bug. 1. Banter hasn't happened ever 2. Banter happened at the start of the game but died after finishing Eos main quest 3. Banter only happens in Nomad Hopefully the patch fixes all of them! I'm definitely experiencing the #1 variety of this bug. I immediately remembered the idling test they asked us to do in DAI. It was the first thing I tried. That resulted in about 30 minutes of absolute silence. I'm not getting anything in the Nomad either. Other than the reactions to the quest points and the occasional grunt or two when they try to use their jetpacks while idling all I get is absolute silence.
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Post by wolfsite on Mar 24, 2017 13:12:17 GMT
There seems to be 2-3 versions of this bug. 1. Banter hasn't happened ever 2. Banter happened at the start of the game but died after finishing Eos main quest 3. Banter only happens in Nomad Hopefully the patch fixes all of them! I'm definitely experiencing the #1 variety of this bug. I immediately remembered the idling test they asked us to do in DAI. It was the first thing I tried. That resulted in about 30 minutes of absolute silence. I'm not getting anything in the Nomad either. Other than the reactions to the quest points and the occasional grunt or two when they try to use their jetpacks while idling all I get is absolute silence. I had the opposite of this, was driving around in the Nomad and Vetra and Jaal couldn't stop talking to each other. I was actually surprised by the amount of dialogue.
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Post by Elsariel on Mar 24, 2017 13:29:56 GMT
I'm definitely experiencing the #1 variety of this bug. I immediately remembered the idling test they asked us to do in DAI. It was the first thing I tried. That resulted in about 30 minutes of absolute silence. I'm not getting anything in the Nomad either. Other than the reactions to the quest points and the occasional grunt or two when they try to use their jetpacks while idling all I get is absolute silence. I had the opposite of this, was driving around in the Nomad and Vetra and Jaal couldn't stop talking to each other. I was actually surprised by the amount of dialogue. Yeah, thats the case for me too. Lots of chatting in the nomad but not too much outside it. PC here as well. I didn't notice it at first but now that I'm on a different planet that requires more walking, I noticed it.
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Post by Brannegan on Mar 24, 2017 13:34:59 GMT
There seems to be 2-3 versions of this bug. 1. Banter hasn't happened ever 2. Banter happened at the start of the game but died after finishing Eos main quest 3. Banter only happens in Nomad Hopefully the patch fixes all of them! I'm definitely experiencing the #1 variety of this bug. I immediately remembered the idling test they asked us to do in DAI. It was the first thing I tried. That resulted in about 30 minutes of absolute silence. I'm not getting anything in the Nomad either. Other than the reactions to the quest points and the occasional grunt or two when they try to use their jetpacks while idling all I get is absolute silence. I belong to group 2, but the banter I had at the start of the game could also just have been quest related without me realizing at the time. I've tried all the DAI "voodoo" methods of fixing the banter with MEA too. Did notice I had a completed quest that refused to have the "new" mark removed from it, wonder if it's related. Also did the idling test. Noticed that on Voeld, where I was testing with two different saves, I could get one banter and sometimes a "banter" in the form of one liner from whoever was with me 10 minutes after. But after those 1-2 banters absolutely nothing for the next 45 minutes. On Eos and Havarl the idling tests resulted into absolutely nothing, which makes me think the Voeld one was scripted to happen certain time after loading in since I kept getting the same banter from same people on each try. I also tried just driving around on Eos for 10 minutes to see if the distance traveled was perhaps a potential trigger. Playing normally I've 100% both Eos and Havarl with no banter whatsoever having happened since I completed the main quest on Eos. I've had way too much free time to look into this bug lol I don't know if they they were using the same proved-to-not-work design of banter trigger in this game as they did in DAI. Would be quite silly of them after DAI is still broken for some people in 2017. One thing for sure tho. I will not buy the next BW Frostbite game before I have made absolutely sure the devs have specifically tested to make sure there's no banter bugs. Fool me twice and all that >.>
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Post by goishen on Mar 24, 2017 14:11:53 GMT
Even if they had an open bar, I still wouldn't go to this thing. I would still be sitting there alone getting smashed off my ass, embarrassed by what we had just put out. Personally, I can't believe that I've waited five years for .... This. This dumpster fire. I mean, fuck. I need a beer now. I would still like to get one of the writers who wrote this thing smashed, and have them spill all their secrets to me. Help me to understand just WTF they were thinking.
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Post by lynroy on Mar 24, 2017 17:45:00 GMT
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Hey folks, I'm curious, any favorite guns or powers in #MEAndromeda so far? Cool character builds you'd like to share?
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Post by kali073 on Mar 24, 2017 19:21:45 GMT
I restarted the game several times in order to get my Ryder just how I want her. Because the archive went live today I used it as a shortcut until I was satisfied. Unfortunately because it took several times I didn't pay as much attention to Scott Ryder. The first few times he'd been in the character creator just like the fem!Ryder I imported so I didn't think too much about it.
However, after I reached the Nexus I did a manual save and exited the game to eat dinner. I decided to make my Ryder public on the archive first to. That's when I saw that my Ryders twin was Default!Scott, not my custom Scott... My Ryder is Asian... I'm not a fast player so it took me 4-5 hours to reach the Nexus...
Now I have to debate if it's worth restarting the game for this or if I should put my hope on a Black Emporium coming soon (and letting you re-customise Scott, too) or just live with it...
EDIT:
Dammit, restart it is.
EDIT 2:
I really liked that Sara trailer though. I think it should have been released on Wednesday since it would be the release trailer for the second release date but I'm glad we got it.
The only bug I've experienced so far was that I jump-jetted straight through a rock and was suddenly falling down...
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 24, 2017 19:43:52 GMT
Since DA2, every Bioware game has been Meta-bombed by users. It's sad. No way do I think Inquisition was on par with the ludicrous garbage like Hatred. No kidding. I went there one time to read some of DAI negative stuff and see what folks have issues with (and always found it curious that it's only the PC version that has significant number of negative reviews) and the reasons some people left a raving mad negative comments were as trifle as... inability to save during combat Snip ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Finally playing the game on a PC. I can now understand some of the negativity.
Navigating the Nomad is still as clumsy as the Mako (with KB), which I never liked. I'm on EOS and the lack of a manual and naming my save is frustrating. I'm the worst driver ever. A mini-map is waaay better than this navigation bar and it gets easily cluttered forcing me to stop, look at the map by zooming in to see if I'm going in the right direction. Off the bat, exploration soon becomes tiresome.... and that is how I presently feel.
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Post by Sartoz on Mar 24, 2017 19:46:33 GMT
Strange... haven't had the issue at all, my companions talk non stop... this was the same for inquisition too, never had the problem... This concerns me however because as soon as they fixed it with a patch, I soon got less talking, hmm oh well. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Haven't noticed one way or another. I'm taking my frustration on the Nomad's clumsy as ever drive controls. Why a mouse is not used is beyond comprehension ( for the PC).
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Post by hopsalong on Mar 24, 2017 19:54:14 GMT
Strange... haven't had the issue at all, my companions talk non stop... this was the same for inquisition too, never had the problem... This concerns me however because as soon as they fixed it with a patch, I soon got less talking, hmm oh well. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Haven't noticed one way or another. I'm taking my frustration on the Nomad's clumsy as ever drive controls. Why a mouse is not used is beyond comprehension ( for the PC).
It helped me a bit to use the six-wheel drive until I got used to the controls, just so I wasn't flying all over the place. I've got the hang of it now, but yeah Eos led to some yelling.
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Post by wintermoons on Mar 24, 2017 20:07:15 GMT
Something I've found to have sort of worked for the banter bug (where I go from no non-quest related banter to at least some) is don't have any quests tracked. Use a waypoint to mark where you need to go instead of an official quest marker. I did that and Jaal and Drack chatted a little bit while in the Nomad.
But in the meantime, Bioware needs to fix this. This is the second time this has happened with the Frostbite engine--the DAI side of Bioware and the MEA side need to communicate and fix this already! I'm sick of it. There shouldn't have to be a mod that lets you literally press ~ for banter in this game too.
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Post by neiljwd on Mar 24, 2017 20:32:57 GMT
Jaal and Drack chatted a little bit while in the Nomad. But in the meantime, Bioware needs to fix this. This is the second time this has happened with the Frostbite engine--the DAI side of Bioware and the MEA side need to communicate and fix this already! I'm sick of it. There shouldn't have to be a mod that lets you literally press ~ for banter in this game too. I'm 99% certain Nomad chatter is a separate trigger/thing to on-foot banter. I agree this bug is AWFUL, way worse than poor animations, it's an experience destroying bug.
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Post by goishen on Mar 24, 2017 20:36:57 GMT
Shit, I wish that's all I felt was frustration. It's getting to the point of rage quitting every hour and then coming on here to bitch about how bad the game is. I mention how bad the cover system is and about how jumping makes you a target?
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Post by Brannegan on Mar 24, 2017 21:06:46 GMT
Judging by the fact that Ian called the banter bug patch an "upcoming patch" yet called some other fix to be in the "next patch" it looks like we'll be waiting a while.
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Post by zeenof on Mar 24, 2017 21:49:24 GMT
You don't even hear it in the Nomad? I don't have this bug, but a friend of mine does and he says banter works in the Nomad. There seems to be 2-3 versions of this bug. 1. Banter hasn't happened ever 2. Banter happened at the start of the game but died after finishing Eos main quest 3. Banter only happens in Nomad Hopefully the patch fixes all of them! The bug also seems to be more common than the DAI one, but people don't realize they have it. Checked out a streamer and he was also having the bug but had no idea. Edit: Relevant Reaaaally late reply, I know. However, no I basically don't experience any banter of any kind. Occasionally a squadmate will say something on foot but they'll be so far away from me, due to horrible AI, that I'll barely be able to hear them, and instead will have to read the subtitles. Likewise, often I'll see squadmate subtitles when I'm approaching a quest or something, and I'll see the subtitles, but no voice. Makes the game feel awfully loney. Haha. Edit: And nothing, to me, is ever as important as the first playthrough. So even if the game is patched, by the time we get it, the total experience will have been lost. Not to mention my first playthrough I'm taking Vetra (romance) and Jaal (story importance). Yet next playthrough I'm bringing Peebee and Drack, while romancing Suvi. I don't know how some people constantly change allies on the field. I always have to take the same people everywhere in a single playthrough so I can see all of their banter. Then I never use them again. The only exception will be if I play the game a third time, I'll bring Jaal with me as a romance. #firstworldproblems
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Post by luckystarr on Mar 24, 2017 22:16:22 GMT
What is the nature of the banter bug?
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Post by elanor on Mar 24, 2017 22:58:24 GMT
I thought that all of this people complaining about animation are exaggerating... Well they don't, it's bad and I don't have huge demands in that matter.
And now I find out about banter bug? Well shit. I guess I have it too because I just finished first open planet and they didn't talked much. I'm so mad... What to do now? I can live with bad animations but banter are important.
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Post by vonuber on Mar 24, 2017 23:33:50 GMT
I mention how bad the cover system is and about how jumping makes you a target? Wait, you are surprised that hovering in mid air makes you a target?
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Post by neiljwd on Mar 25, 2017 0:16:52 GMT
Excpt that way u only see X's banter with Y. But not X's banter with A&B or Y's with Z... .
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Post by zeenof on Mar 25, 2017 0:35:13 GMT
Excpt that way u only see X's banter with Y. But not X's banter with A&B or Y's with Z... . Very true. However, there's certain squadmates that I have absolutely zero desire to see the banter of; namely Liam and Cora. Now see, the old ME games, namely 1 and 2, I beat about 8 times each. I saw every combination. Now to put that into perspective: I only beat ME3 a single time, at the very beginning well before the director's cut and any of the DLC. So roughly 8 or 9 playthroughs never saw the light of day. And I'm not even most people. I didn't hate the ending of the Trilogy at all. I don't actually even know what happens in the director's cut, or any of the DLC. I beat the game once, and never looked in Bioware's direction again until about 2 months before ME:A. I simply didn't care for the game. I didn't love it, I didn't hate it. It was just very "alright." Combine that with how utterly long the game is if you do sidequests, and I just couldn't bring myself to play again. DAO and DA2, same thing, I beat enough to see all banter. However, the more open world a game is, ala the Fallout series, Elder Scrolls series, and then eventually DAI, and now ME:A, I only generally ever beat once. I simply don't have the patience to play through an open-world game more than once usually, unless there's several major choices that have very different outcomes; usually because mainly A) The core story (generally) isn't good enough to warrant such a looooooooooong play time and I can't play a game and not do every single thing the game has to offer. I couldn't beat DAI more than twice for instance, because I had already seen both sides of ever major event. And like the above, I beat both playthroughs long before any DLC or patches came out. I was also hit by the banter bug in both playthroughs. I lost all desire to even give the DLC a chance. However, I couldn't do it a third time because both playthroughs were each well over 150 hours. And I can't play DAI (or any open-world game) without doing every single quest lol. It's just a compulsion when I play any game. The only quests I can avoid are those with basically no story attached to them, such as collectibles and fetch quests. As such, I can only plan to play ME:A twice, each playthrough is a different side of the coin. So I have to choose my squad as best as I can. That's why this kind of bug (banter bug) is especially bad for me. Basically, I'm a lore whore. And the lore has to come in the first playthrough or two, or I'll basically never pick a game up again. And unfortunately that's happening again, thanks to the banter bug.
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