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Post by smilesja on Apr 5, 2017 18:18:32 GMT
Don't have too much time. Could you give me the highlights "But the fact that Bioware needs to take the time to formulate a statement for a massive minority that even care, instead of addressing all the issues the majority of people are having, tells me a lot about society...and this developer." "should probably just stop trying to force SJW stuff into the game for the sake of it" Didn't they read the other statement before this one?
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Post by Fogg on Apr 5, 2017 18:23:11 GMT
I believe the issue was, that Hainly right away told Ryder her old (male) name, which is not something transgender people do so easily. It makes me wonder whether that would be the case in 200 years time. How much would society change in regards to sexuality? It's interesting to ponder. Any hints as to when any dlc is coming out on twitter, btw? No, just the patch that comes tomorrow and other plans for the next two months. The devs got a bit quiet since last week.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 18:23:31 GMT
The way they handled the character was pretty shitty. But now we need a statement every single week ? Just patch it and don't comment on it. Next week people will complain because you can't get the romance achievement just doing m/m romances and how awful they feel because Bioware don't care about them. I think they've been complaining about that a while already. They really ought to wait their turn...
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 5, 2017 18:24:31 GMT
Don't have too much time. Could you give me the highlights "But the fact that Bioware needs to take the time to formulate a statement for a massive minority that even care, instead of addressing all the issues the majority of people are having, tells me a lot about society...and this developer." Okay, hang on.. YESTERDAY we had a big announcement about incoming patch and Bioware working on issues players have and so on, so WTH is this person talking about?
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 5, 2017 18:32:31 GMT
To be fair, the character is quite shitty...
I dont mind this.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 5, 2017 18:39:10 GMT
BioWare @masseffectTo prepare for patch 1.05, our servers will go down at 8am PT on April 6 for 1 hour. Multiplayer and Strike Teams will be unavailable.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 5, 2017 18:44:06 GMT
Jack @treesenhauserAnd props to @lootcrate for another killer Gaming box! That Mass Effect lamp is nuts! Note: the regular gaming lootcrate, not the special MEA one
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Post by saberchic on Apr 5, 2017 19:41:28 GMT
There are multiple communities out there that care about BioWare games. It's good that BioWare picks up feedback from all of them. I believe the issue was, that Hainly right away told Ryder her old (male) name, which is not something transgender people do so easily. My issue with her was that she sounded bitter and was basically like "I can be who the hell I want to be now." And for Mass Effect, I thought that being transgender would be a non-issue at this point, which was disappointing. So after talking to her, I felt like they were trying to shoehorn in the character. I thought she was poorly done. If they wanted to alert the player that she had transitioned, maybe they should have had another NPC accidentally use the wrong pronoun and then correct themselves when referring to Hainly. Something like: "You can go to Hainly, he'll get that for you. Oops, sorry, I meant she'll get that for you." It's not disrespectful, and if Hainly had transitioned right before leaving for Andromeda, it's perfectly understandable for someone to make that kind of mistake if they knew them before and after transition. That way they make a character be an actual character and not a representative token person with dialogue options.
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Post by ssanyesz on Apr 5, 2017 19:51:29 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Of course, this aspect of the game was "intensively checked" before release. All that polishing and all.
Common "interruptors" reduction is a band aid. It's an open sore that masks potential valuable info which happened to me on more than one occasion. What about the uncommon?
I could only hear party banter on Voled. Every other planet I heard nothing. I was glad to be annoyed by SAM or it would just be silence. Plus on my end the Tempest went silent too. I'm not hearing banter anymore, it's really disappointing and annoying. DAI bugs all over again.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Apr 5, 2017 20:00:45 GMT
Jo Berry @joanna_BerryLook what arrived today. 🚀 Tom RyderSon @taylorsonThat is AWESOME! Jo Berry @joanna_Berry I'm still at the "AHHHH, IT HAS MY NAME ON IT AND EVERYTHING" stage 😄 Tom RyderSon @taylorson Tom RyderSon @taylorson I wound up looking at ME:A's credits just to see my name there. Bat shit. 😁 Jo Berry @joanna_Berry SWTOR's credits blew my mind. After being a lifelong Star Wars fan, seeing my name in the SW font hit me right in the feels. Still does. Jo Berry @joanna_Berry And now a friend sent me a screenshot of my name in Mass Effect's credits and I'm just 😊
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Apr 5, 2017 20:16:11 GMT
It makes me wonder whether that would be the case in 200 years time. How much would society change in regards to sexuality? It's interesting to ponder. Any hints as to when any dlc is coming out on twitter, btw? No, just the patch that comes tomorrow and other plans for the next two months. The devs got a bit quiet since last week. yeah I think there just kerepoing quiet and seeing our feedback on the game before they decide 100% on any DLC stuff wouldn't think we'll see any story based stuff until the summer anyway. Until then it'l be patcvhes and the info they've given uswhich is good for now I'd say we need to be patient considering the game's not long been out although I'm not far from finishing my first run. It's been fun though and I plan to do another couple of playthrough's at least but my plan was to mix them in with runs of the trilogy so going back through from ME1 first.
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Post by wolfsite on Apr 5, 2017 20:44:57 GMT
I wonder how people will twist this? The same way they twist everything that comes out of Bioware..... negatively.
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Post by SofNascimento on Apr 5, 2017 21:35:13 GMT
Who is this Hainly Abrams character?
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Post by vonuber on Apr 5, 2017 21:50:56 GMT
Who is this Hainly Abrams character? A really minor NPC in a blink and you'll miss it cameo, which obviously means it's all part of Bioware's Master Plan to make everyone, especially white insecure young men, gay or something.
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Post by Fogg on Apr 5, 2017 22:05:22 GMT
Polygon @polygonSurprise! Mass Effect: Andromeda is now an early access game www.polygon.com/2017/4/5/15190250/mass-effect-andromeda-patches-animation-early-access?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twittershinobi602 @shinobi602Figured it'd be Kuchera. Pretty low guys. Arthur Gies @aegiesI don't think it's especially unfair, and I say this as Polygon's resident ME:A defender. shinobi602 @shinobi602Comparing it to an early access game means he hasn't played actual E.A. games. Every game has post launch patches and ongoing support. Arthur Gies @aegiesThis goes beyond post-launch patches and ongoing support - it suggests fairly substantial narrative edits/changes in a story heavy game. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeout of curiosity, which of the items would you consider a substantial narrative edit? Not confirming or denying, just curious. Arthur Gies @aegiesromance options make fairly large changes to dialog and story stuff later. and to other character interactions. Arthur Gies @aegiesthis is a series where the "small" details for characters make a huge difference to the emotional attachments that people develop. shinobi602 @shinobi602I suppose what people count as "substantial" differs from person to person. Optional romantic content isn't a major change in shinobi602 @shinobi602grand scheme of things to me. And certainly not to the overall narrative of the full game. Arthur Gies @aegiesBut romantic content is important enough to mass effect for BioWare to release a statement about it, and numerous "who can you bang" posts. Arthur Gies @aegiesI'm not saying it needs to be important to you. I get that it isn't. But it is to many players, and they're getting a beta right now.
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Post by Furisco on Apr 5, 2017 22:31:22 GMT
Who is this Hainly Abrams character? A really minor NPC in a blink and you'll miss it cameo, which obviously means it's all part of Bioware's Master Plan to make everyone, especially white insecure young men, gay or something. You sound just as bad as those people.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 5, 2017 22:54:58 GMT
Arthur Gies @aegiesI'm not saying it needs to be important to you. I get that it isn't. But it is to many players, and they're getting a beta right now. That's just bizarre reasoning - the same could be said of any element of gameplay that is important to people, and is being part of post-launch patching or addressing. In other words, according to this person, any game that is being patched post-launch and addresses issue people have that are important to them, sometimes bigger sometimes smaller, is in beta until it's resolved.... strangely enough, we don't hear accusations of being beta/early access thrown around so ostentatiously
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 5, 2017 23:01:38 GMT
Oh, boy. Drama, and Gamble has grabbed a gun too. Nice!
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Post by Petroshenko on Apr 5, 2017 23:06:08 GMT
Fair comment on early-access state of the game. Complaints about narrative/dialogue changes are stupid tho. Witcher 1/2 did it, ME3 ending did it and it was for the better.
I for one really hope they fix first-Angara meeting scene, it's ridiculous that Ryder doesn't question the fact that they're speaking Milky Way language to him out of nowhere
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Post by gyena on Apr 5, 2017 23:18:26 GMT
I personally loved the game and wish I could tell them so. I've started my third playthrough even with the issues and don't regret paying full price. Plan on buying it a second time on disc. That article doesn't speak for everyone. They seem to genuinely care about fixing it, to me that's all that matters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:18:44 GMT
Polygon @polygonSurprise! Mass Effect: Andromeda is now an early access game www.polygon.com/2017/4/5/15190250/mass-effect-andromeda-patches-animation-early-access?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twittershinobi602 @shinobi602Figured it'd be Kuchera. Pretty low guys. Arthur Gies @aegiesI don't think it's especially unfair, and I say this as Polygon's resident ME:A defender. shinobi602 @shinobi602Comparing it to an early access game means he hasn't played actual E.A. games. Every game has post launch patches and ongoing support. Arthur Gies @aegiesThis goes beyond post-launch patches and ongoing support - it suggests fairly substantial narrative edits/changes in a story heavy game. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeout of curiosity, which of the items would you consider a substantial narrative edit? Not confirming or denying, just curious. Arthur Gies @aegiesromance options make fairly large changes to dialog and story stuff later. and to other character interactions. Arthur Gies @aegiesthis is a series where the "small" details for characters make a huge difference to the emotional attachments that people develop. shinobi602 @shinobi602I suppose what people count as "substantial" differs from person to person. Optional romantic content isn't a major change in shinobi602 @shinobi602grand scheme of things to me. And certainly not to the overall narrative of the full game. Arthur Gies @aegiesBut romantic content is important enough to mass effect for BioWare to release a statement about it, and numerous "who can you bang" posts. Arthur Gies @aegiesI'm not saying it needs to be important to you. I get that it isn't. But it is to many players, and they're getting a beta right now.
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Post by vonuber on Apr 5, 2017 23:18:47 GMT
You sound just as bad as those people. Yes you are correct- me gently mocking the stupidity of this whole thing is exactly the same as those hysterical, hate filled messages and campaigns that erupt over such things as bioware including a minor npc who happens to be trans.
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Post by Furisco on Apr 5, 2017 23:25:26 GMT
lmao
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:27:24 GMT
Don't think i've ever seen this much drama around the release of a game. Its quite frankly very embarrassing for everyone involved in this.
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