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Post by smilesja on Apr 5, 2017 23:31:27 GMT
Don't think i've ever seen this much drama around the release of a game. Its quite frankly very embarrassing for everyone involved in this. Mass Effect 3 was way worse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:33:42 GMT
You sound just as bad as those people. Yes you are correct- me gently mocking the stupidity of this whole thing is exactly the same as those hysterical, hate filled messages and campaigns that erupt over such things as bioware including a minor npc who happens to be trans. All those overly vocal voices (animation issues and romances especially) have been the most ridiculous stuff I have seen in ages.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:34:17 GMT
Don't think i've ever seen this much drama around the release of a game. Its quite frankly very embarrassing for everyone involved in this. Fun to watch though. And since I'm enjoying the game as well, I guess it just means double the fun for me Just waiting for the patch before I start my second playthrough...
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Post by smilesja on Apr 5, 2017 23:36:59 GMT
Yes you are correct- me gently mocking the stupidity of this whole thing is exactly the same as those hysterical, hate filled messages and campaigns that erupt over such things as bioware including a minor npc who happens to be trans. All those overly vocal voices (animation issues and romances especially) have been the most ridiculous stuff I have seen in ages. I don't think people are necessarily hating the character because they are trans. It's just that they feel she wasn't written well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:43:36 GMT
All those overly vocal voices (animation issues and romances especially) have been the most ridiculous stuff I have seen in ages. I don't think people are necessarily hating the character because they are trans. It's just that they feel she wasn't written well. Yeah but still, hardly anyone has seen this character. Such minor voices, yet so loud they have to cater. Same with the whole making Jaal bi, Cora should have been bi and pointless animation complaints. It's being less than a month since the game came out and all the complaining is just depressing.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 5, 2017 23:44:14 GMT
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Post by smilesja on Apr 5, 2017 23:44:57 GMT
I don't think people are necessarily hating the character because they are trans. It's just that they feel she wasn't written well. Yeah but still, hardly anyone has seen this character. Such minor voices, yet so loud they have to cater. Same with the whole making Jaal bi, Cora should have been bi and pointless animation complaints. It's being less than a month since the game came out and all the complaining is just depressing. Bioware is the new enemy of gaming.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:45:50 GMT
Yeah but still, hardly anyone has seen this character. Such minor voices, yet so loud they have to cater. Same with the whole making Jaal bi, Cora should have been bi and pointless animation complaints. It's being less than a month since the game came out and all the complaining is just depressing. Bioware is the new enemy of gaming. Sad it has to be that way. Except for Witcher, I play nothing but BW games and love each of them without regret. Oh well.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Apr 5, 2017 23:48:06 GMT
Yoda should have been bi.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Apr 5, 2017 23:48:22 GMT
I personally loved the game and wish I could tell them so. I've started my third playthrough even with the issues and don't regret paying full price. Plan on buying it a second time on disc. That article doesn't speak for everyone. They seem to genuinely care about fixing it, to me that's all that matters. You can. It's called twitter
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2017 23:48:42 GMT
Yoda should have been bi. HAHA I needed that laugh. Thank you!
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 5, 2017 23:51:02 GMT
Inb4 myself BioWare @biowareRegarding Hainley Abrams AsbjoernSR Link"Guess"skiInb4 someone takes offense at your solution
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Post by SwobyJ on Apr 5, 2017 23:58:53 GMT
I don't feel negative at all now, personally. Other than a little bothered and indeed having some sense that I 'got a beta'. The worst that has come from all this is that I will almost certainly avoid preordering for at least the next BW title, whatever it is. That was kind of the case this time, but MEA was instead preordered as a gift for me so who am I to refuse?
Thanks for listening and trying to address player concerns Bioware, and I hope the outcome of MEA, no matter the initial 'fallout', turns out an overall positive for the studio.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 6, 2017 0:05:15 GMT
I don't think people are necessarily hating the character because they are trans. It's just that they feel she wasn't written well. Yeah but still, hardly anyone has seen this character. Such minor voices, yet so loud they have to cater. Same with the whole making Jaal bi, Cora should have been bi and pointless animation complaints. It's being less than a month since the game came out and all the complaining is just depressing. Eh, it's the Beamdog controversy all over again - almost the same thing happened, exactly a year ago: a minor character turned out to be trans when PC asked them a question, aside some other minor stuff. For a time it was "gaming drama" until the outraged mob has found another target - although obviously the target is BW/ME now, since it's a much bigger game and studio that - and it's really not that hard to notice - a certain determined group seems to be almost hell-bent to prove is ruined either by 'corporate monsters at EA' or 'those effing SJWs'. Or both. It'll last until people find another controversy to be outraged about, for whatever reason, leaving Bioware to address and work on concerns voiced by more reasonable folks... at least that's the hope.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2017 0:07:25 GMT
Yeah but still, hardly anyone has seen this character. Such minor voices, yet so loud they have to cater. Same with the whole making Jaal bi, Cora should have been bi and pointless animation complaints. It's being less than a month since the game came out and all the complaining is just depressing. Eh, it's the Beamdog controversy all over again - almost the same thing happened, exactly a year ago: a minor character turned out to be trans when PC asked them a question, aside some other minor stuff. For a time it was "gaming drama" until the outraged mob has found another target - although obviously the target is BW/ME now, since it's a much bigger game and studio that - and it's really not that hard to notice - a certain determined group seems to be almost hell-bent to prove is ruined either by 'corporate monsters at EA' or 'those effing SJWs'. Or both. It'll last until people find another controversy to be outraged about, for whatever reason, leaving Bioware to address and work on concerns voiced by more reasonable folks... at least that's the hope. The more we advance in the world the more primitive we become.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 6, 2017 0:07:40 GMT
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Hmm...
(a) I have no idea who this NPC char is. ( I have no idea what the fuss is about. (c) I do find it interesting that Bio is jumping through hoops to correct an apparent SJW faux pas about a bottom NPC feeder. (d) I do find it reasonable to conclude that BIO is more interested in kissing some EA exec's azz than focus on the more important game issues like bugs, and deficiencies (ie: CC). (e) I do find it interesting that Bio chose to give us a handsome Scott and a plan Jane Ryder and reused Asari face assets.
I'm going back to play some more MP... it's quieter over there.
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Post by smilesja on Apr 6, 2017 0:10:18 GMT
Eh, it's the Beamdog controversy all over again - almost the same thing happened, exactly a year ago: a minor character turned out to be trans when PC asked them a question, aside some other minor stuff. For a time it was "gaming drama" until the outraged mob has found another target - although obviously the target is BW/ME now, since it's a much bigger game and studio that - and it's really not that hard to notice - a certain determined group seems to be almost hell-bent to prove is ruined either by 'corporate monsters at EA' or 'those effing SJWs'. Or both. It'll last until people find another controversy to be outraged about, for whatever reason, leaving Bioware to address and work on concerns voiced by more reasonable folks... at least that's the hope. The more we advance in the world the more primitive we become. i.imgur.com/CTLd7rI.gif
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 6, 2017 0:10:32 GMT
Kindergarden Journalism. gotta love it.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 6, 2017 0:16:30 GMT
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Hmm...
(a) I have no idea who this NPC char is. ( I have no idea what the fuss is about. (c) I do find it interesting that Bio is jumping through hoops to correct an apparent SJW faux pas about a bottom NPC feeder. (d) I do find it reasonable to conclude that BIO is more interested in kissing some EA exec's azz than focus on the more important game issues like bugs, and deficiencies (ie: CC). (e) I do find it interesting that Bio chose to give us a handsome Scott and a plan Jane Ryder and reused Asari face assets.
I'm going back to play some more MP... it's quieter over there. BioWare has garnered a lot of trust to the transgender part of their audience with DA:I and from conventions. Having the only self-presented transexual character in Andromeda be A: A completely forced afterthought and B: obviously not written beyond a first draft, is a sensitive thing towards that part of the fanbase and BioWare's statement reaches out to them. Their stance on representation is kinda double-faced, trying to avoid "pandering" when the entire game world and narrative is nothing but pandering in BioWare games not to mention romancing and what have you, but considering their connection with their crowd I think that's where this statement became important to them. Polygon is just trying to make a hit piece as always. I hope to god gaming journalism dies to internet culture. It's the most forced and unnecessary thing to have in gaming in the first place since the rise of the internet. We have plenty of better sources pointing out actual problems like bad business practices, bad social representation, bad games, good games etc. We don't need bloody polygon or IGN or anything except for their previews and hype.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Apr 6, 2017 0:52:29 GMT
Tom RyderSon @taylorson Live with @joshingtron at http:// twitch.tv/ mntdew in minutes! Playing ME:A poorly, riffing with Twitch chat, and answering questions!
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Post by brownfinger on Apr 6, 2017 0:58:40 GMT
I really cannot figure out why people are upset about Abrams, but the wheel of perpetual human outrage will turn regardless of whether or not it makes any sense. I spoke with her, it was a normal thing treated like it wasn't a big deal because it isn't a big deal. If only society would follow suit. I thought it was fine! I'll never understand people.
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Polygon @polygonSurprise! Mass Effect: Andromeda is now an early access game www.polygon.com/2017/4/5/15190250/mass-effect-andromeda-patches-animation-early-access?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twittershinobi602 @shinobi602Figured it'd be Kuchera. Pretty low guys. Arthur Gies @aegiesI don't think it's especially unfair, and I say this as Polygon's resident ME:A defender. shinobi602 @shinobi602Comparing it to an early access game means he hasn't played actual E.A. games. Every game has post launch patches and ongoing support. Arthur Gies @aegiesThis goes beyond post-launch patches and ongoing support - it suggests fairly substantial narrative edits/changes in a story heavy game. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeout of curiosity, which of the items would you consider a substantial narrative edit? Not confirming or denying, just curious. Arthur Gies @aegiesromance options make fairly large changes to dialog and story stuff later. and to other character interactions. Arthur Gies @aegiesthis is a series where the "small" details for characters make a huge difference to the emotional attachments that people develop. shinobi602 @shinobi602I suppose what people count as "substantial" differs from person to person. Optional romantic content isn't a major change in shinobi602 @shinobi602grand scheme of things to me. And certainly not to the overall narrative of the full game. Arthur Gies @aegiesBut romantic content is important enough to mass effect for BioWare to release a statement about it, and numerous "who can you bang" posts. Arthur Gies @aegiesI'm not saying it needs to be important to you. I get that it isn't. But it is to many players, and they're getting a beta right now. This aegies guy is a fucking idiot. Excuse my language but adding a few optional romance options is more like free dlc as opposed to calling a game beta testing. Yeah you could say beta testing because of all of the glitches and bugs but not for optional gay romances I guess we can at least thank scummy people like this guy to entice Bioware to give out free dlc to the early adopters. Why did I buy Mass Effect full price with the errors that has? Same reason people buy the newest iPhone or Nintendo console. You want to get your hands on it knowing that it's technology and not always perfect. With a game as big as mass Effect, are people really wondering why it has bugs? What game this size and scope doesn't have bugs at release?
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Post by gyena on Apr 6, 2017 1:34:55 GMT
I personally loved the game and wish I could tell them so. I've started my third playthrough even with the issues and don't regret paying full price. Plan on buying it a second time on disc. That article doesn't speak for everyone. They seem to genuinely care about fixing it, to me that's all that matters. You can. It's called twitter I hate it and Facebook equally. Besides, not enough room with that character limit.
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Post by Link"Guess"ski on Apr 6, 2017 1:42:02 GMT
And as with the ME3 scenario, IT'S A FUCKING GAME, not a piece of Mozart. It can and will be patched and it will be tweaked and changed. Get the fuck over yourselves with your "b-b-b-but games is a-a-art!" Journalists. Sure it is, but it's its own form of it.
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Post by lurkinglurker on Apr 6, 2017 1:45:01 GMT
You can. It's called twitter I hate it and Facebook equally. Besides, not enough room with that character limit. I hate it too, but twitter is pretty much official BSN forums 2.0 as far as Bioware is concerned. They are more likely to hear you there than anywhere else.
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