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Post by smilesja on Apr 12, 2017 4:42:15 GMT
While I do think it's a good video and looks at the problems objectively rather just bashing it. I just feel a little numb to all of the videos that have been posted in ME:A and how "horrible" over and over again.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 12, 2017 4:47:06 GMT
Barrett Rodych ForgedPixels Andromeda speedrun in a few hours? Andromeda speedrun in a few hours. Jos @sjosz You're doing a run of less than 2 hours? Nice. Barrett Rodych ForgedPixels May not be too far off! I just finished a speedrun a few minutes ago. 4 hours 23 minutes on hardcore
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Post by Marduk on Apr 12, 2017 4:54:06 GMT
While I do think it's a good video and looks at the problems objectively rather just bashing it. I just feel a little numb to all of the videos that have been posted in ME:A and how "horrible" over and over again. Here at least things are more tamed. out in the wild though...oh boy. i guess that's the main reason i decided to sign up here finally. there is a difference between being critical and being toxic and many online just want to see Bioware gone instead of getting better.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 12, 2017 5:10:47 GMT
While I do think it's a good video and looks at the problems objectively rather just bashing it. I just feel a little numb to all of the videos that have been posted in ME:A and how "horrible" over and over again. Here at least things are more tamed. out in the wild though...oh boy. i guess that's the main reason i decided to sign up here finally. there is a difference between being critical and being toxic and many online just want to see Bioware gone instead of getting better. Of course they do. Part of the crowd just likes the narrative of falling of the mighty, while for other it'd be a 'proof' to feed their conspiracy theory about SJWs taking over gaming and ruining it. Plus - an EA-owned studio that still manages to churn out good games? As much as I may dislike EA/corporation practices, it's ridiculous to live a black-and-white world which paints certain entities as downright evil and corrupting to the very core.
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Post by Marduk on Apr 12, 2017 5:27:38 GMT
Here at least things are more tamed. out in the wild though...oh boy. i guess that's the main reason i decided to sign up here finally. there is a difference between being critical and being toxic and many online just want to see Bioware gone instead of getting better. Of course they do. Part of the crowd just likes the narrative of falling of the mighty, while for other it'd be a 'proof' to feed their conspiracy theory about SJWs taking over gaming and ruining it. Plus - an EA-owned studio that still manages to churn out good games? As much as I may dislike EA/corporation practices, it's ridiculous to live a black-and-white world which paints certain entities as downright evil and corrupting to the very core. Yea i know, they were waiting for it sadly. just wanted to show that people like us are also still around too.
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Post by PillarBiter on Apr 12, 2017 12:16:49 GMT
A VERY interesting watch, thank you. But he kind of contradicts himself, where first he says you can create scenes very quickly, and at the end he says they didn't have enough time. Weird. In any case, my major gripe is, as always: communication. Failure to living up to when you clusterfucked something. That said, I don't have that much of a problem with animation as other people do, though.
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 12, 2017 12:31:18 GMT
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
Good video. Basically, Bio needed much more time to polish this game and EA's deadline put the studio in a hard place.
I suspect some very poor managerial decisions were made especially in quantifying the amount of work to be done. ... and it showed. My question is whether the time, money and resources committed to "improving the game is worth it from Bio's perspective. In other words, will it generate more sales?
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Post by Sartoz on Apr 12, 2017 12:44:30 GMT
Snip I just feel a little numb to all of the videos that have been posted in ME:A and how "horrible" over and over again. ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸
I'll be kind and restrict myself to simply say, "ME:A was not ready for Prime Time".
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Post by zipzap2000 on Apr 12, 2017 12:55:03 GMT
While I do think it's a good video and looks at the problems objectively rather just bashing it. I just feel a little numb to all of the videos that have been posted in ME:A and how "horrible" over and over again. Here at least things are more tamed. out in the wild though...oh boy. i guess that's the main reason i decided to sign up here finally. there is a difference between being critical and being toxic and many online just want to see Bioware gone instead of getting better. And that would suck because this hopefully nothing more than a hard lesson. Theres stuff to build on from here and I'd like to see them try to.
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Post by ApocAlypsE on Apr 12, 2017 14:11:32 GMT
Here at least things are more tamed. out in the wild though...oh boy. i guess that's the main reason i decided to sign up here finally. there is a difference between being critical and being toxic and many online just want to see Bioware gone instead of getting better. And that would suck because this hopefully nothing more than a hard lesson. Theres stuff to build on from here and I'd like to see them try to. Well currently Bioware certainly aint getting any better... Hopefully if the degrading continues someone else will pick up the slack because there is a market for the stuff Bioware does.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 15:44:50 GMT
Lee Kaburis @lkaburis We've pledged to invest $500 million to grow Montreal's game industry over the next 10 years! #EACareers bit.ly/2opwrLU #WeAreEA pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KQtVrXYAEg661.jpg Lee Kaburis @lkaburis EA's committed to growing the Montreal dev scene. We'll add 500 new jobs there in the next 10 years! bit.ly/2opFb4q #WeAreEA Interesting. A substantial investment. Sounds promising for the future of BioWare Montreal. Makes me wonder what EA has in mind for the future of Edmonton.
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(Sigh) well, duh, I can not find that tweet now that asked about the endings. And I played like old Geppetto to respond to it... Aww.
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Post by midnight tea on Apr 12, 2017 17:57:57 GMT
Here at least things are more tamed. out in the wild though...oh boy. i guess that's the main reason i decided to sign up here finally. there is a difference between being critical and being toxic and many online just want to see Bioware gone instead of getting better. And that would suck because this hopefully nothing more than a hard lesson. Theres stuff to build on from here and I'd like to see them try to. I don't see why they can't. People have been proclaiming death of Bioware/Dragon Age franchise after DA2... then came DAI and, no matter what some may say, it was a critical and commercial success. So I don't see how they can't build on MEA, especially after its daunting task of setting new chunk of universe and story in the shadow of its troubled legacy. Heck, depending on where the franchise goes from here, it may yet end like Hubble Space Telescope - an undeniable scientific icon that was mocked relentlessly for technical muck-ups in first years after its launch.
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Post by luckystarr on Apr 12, 2017 18:12:43 GMT
Should we expect new patches? Any talk about that? Still plenty bugs not fixed both in MP and SP (I don't mean balance issues or controversial game design, I mean plain technical bugs).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 20:01:20 GMT
Should we expect new patches? Any talk about that? Still plenty bugs not fixed both in MP and SP (I don't mean balance issues or controversial game design, I mean plain technical bugs). Uh of course there is going to be more patches. They supported Dragon Age Inquisition for 11 months or so after its release. Patches are not made over night however, and they want to get as many fixes in one as possible. Not sure when we can expect the next one, but i assume next week. They did also announce things they want to fix in the coming 2 months, like animations, in game models and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 20:36:39 GMT
Lee Kaburis @lkaburis We've pledged to invest $500 million to grow Montreal's game industry over the next 10 years! #EACareers bit.ly/2opwrLU #WeAreEA pbs.twimg.com/media/C9KQtVrXYAEg661.jpg Lee Kaburis @lkaburis EA's committed to growing the Montreal dev scene. We'll add 500 new jobs there in the next 10 years! bit.ly/2opFb4q #WeAreEA Pretty accurate picture. - Can Montreal's game industry grow? Do we need help from whom?
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Post by Iakus on Apr 12, 2017 20:45:50 GMT
Uh of course there is going to be more patches. They supported Dragon Age Inquisition for 11 months or so after its release. Depending on the platform
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 12, 2017 22:17:23 GMT
Barrett Rodych ForgedPixels Andromeda speedrun in a few hours? Andromeda speedrun in a few hours. Jos @sjosz You're doing a run of less than 2 hours? Nice. Barrett Rodych ForgedPixels May not be too far off! I just finished a speedrun a few minutes ago. 4 hours 23 minutes on hardcore Nice! Barrett managed just under 2 1/2 hours on Easy IIRC? (and not NG+), which is now the record at BioWare. It was fun to watch a Dev do this and see builds designed for the best speed, best path through the game, where you could skip combat and where you couldn't, and clever jumping to bypass whole areas. He actually came within a couple of minutes of beating the NG+ record.
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Post by themikefest on Apr 12, 2017 22:37:48 GMT
Nice! Barrett managed just under 2 1/2 hours on Easy IIRC? (and not NG+), which is now the record at BioWare. It was fun to watch a Dev do this and see builds designed for the best speed, best path through the game, where you could skip combat and where you couldn't, and clever jumping to bypass whole areas. He actually came within a couple of minutes of beating the NG+ record. I would be curious what path he used.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 12, 2017 23:43:56 GMT
Nice! Barrett managed just under 2 1/2 hours on Easy IIRC? (and not NG+), which is now the record at BioWare. It was fun to watch a Dev do this and see builds designed for the best speed, best path through the game, where you could skip combat and where you couldn't, and clever jumping to bypass whole areas. He actually came within a couple of minutes of beating the NG+ record. I would be curious what path he used. If you're curious, you can watch his whole speedrun here.
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Post by flyingovertrout on Apr 13, 2017 2:04:25 GMT
And that would suck because this hopefully nothing more than a hard lesson. Theres stuff to build on from here and I'd like to see them try to. I don't see why they can't. People have been proclaiming death of Bioware/Dragon Age franchise after DA2... then came DAI and, no matter what some may say, it was a critical and commercial success. So I don't see how they can't build on MEA, especially after its daunting task of setting new chunk of universe and story in the shadow of its troubled legacy. Heck, depending on where the franchise goes from here, it may yet end like Hubble Space Telescope - an undeniable scientific icon that was mocked relentlessly for technical muck-ups in first years after its launch. So MEA2 = James Webb Space Telescope? I totally love this astronomy geek analogy. :ulikeit:
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Post by bshep on Apr 13, 2017 3:42:46 GMT
I don't see why they can't. People have been proclaiming death of Bioware/Dragon Age franchise after DA2... then came DAI and, no matter what some may say, it was a critical and commercial success. So I don't see how they can't build on MEA, especially after its daunting task of setting new chunk of universe and story in the shadow of its troubled legacy. Heck, depending on where the franchise goes from here, it may yet end like Hubble Space Telescope - an undeniable scientific icon that was mocked relentlessly for technical muck-ups in first years after its launch. So MEA2 = James Webb Space Telescope? I totally love this astronomy geek analogy. :ulikeit: Time will tell.
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Post by Hrungr on Apr 13, 2017 6:35:16 GMT
Tal Peleg @the_Ur_Quan I can finally post my @masseffect Andromeda work. Hope you all enjoy watching it as much as I did animating💋on it😅 vimeo.com/tpeleg/masseffectandromeda Animation Sample **SPOILER ALERT**
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