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Post by wright1978 on Jul 9, 2017 11:34:27 GMT
Oh, and I don't believe the whole argument about the date Leviathan came out. Remember, it was delayed so that they could make the Extended Cut. If it weren't for that, the DLC would've come earlier. But as I said, I'm NOT saying a DLC isn't coming out. If there ever is one, it comes out when it's ready, but those "can't talk about" clearly aren't working. Pretty gloom regarding dlc personally. Would be very happy if i'm proven wrong and they are just being tight mouthed.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 12:22:16 GMT
Oh, and I don't believe the whole argument about the date Leviathan came out. Remember, it was delayed so that they could make the Extended Cut. If it weren't for that, the DLC would've come earlier. But as I said, I'm NOT saying a DLC isn't coming out. If there ever is one, it comes out when it's ready, but those "can't talk about" clearly aren't working. Pretty gloom regarding dlc personally. Would be very happy if i'm proven wrong and they are just being tight mouthed. Well I'm giving it to the end of August but if nothing happen the then I'll admit it likely won't. But I'll likely still be playing the game regardless because I still find the base game fun enough even without DLC. So if I am surprised later I can still buy and play it. If there was anything I took away from being a scout back in the day it was to always be prepared.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 9, 2017 12:36:00 GMT
I'm personally sticking up until EGX 2017 from 21st to 24th September( depending if and when BioWare will have a presence there), as that is the last major gaming event that lays within realistic time frame for BioWare to release or announce SP Story DLC. 7th November is way off and by that point we can only hope for a long shot of an expansion pack for ME:A, instead of typical SP Story DLC.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 13:08:58 GMT
I'm personally sticking up until EGX 2017 from 21st to 24th September( depending if and when BioWare will have a presence there), as that is the last major gaming event that lays within realistic time frame for BioWare to release or announce SP Story DLC. 7th November is way off and by that point we can only hope for a long shot of an expansion pack for ME:A, instead of typical SP Story DLC. tbh I think it would be too late by then because some of the books would already be out. If they don't say anything by the time that first book is out I doubt anything will happen as I believe that book is out September 1st? There is still a chance yes with the next Comic con and Gamescom coming up and with Andromeda's big wigs being at the next Comic con perhaps they'll be attending that because they plan on announcing something there. Because usually when something is being announced usually the big wigs are involved. I suspect Gamescom will mostly be for Anthem so it probably won't happen there but I'm not dismissing the possibility it may. The best shot we have left I think is that next Comic con I think. If nothing happens there I don't think it likely will happen at all.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 9, 2017 13:11:39 GMT
I'm personally sticking up until EGX 2017 from 21st to 24th September( depending if and when BioWare will have a presence there), as that is the last major gaming event that lays within realistic time frame for BioWare to release or announce SP Story DLC. 7th November is way off and by that point we can only hope for a long shot of an expansion pack for ME:A, instead of typical SP Story DLC. tbh I think it would be too late by then because some of the books would already be out. If they don't say anything by the time that first book is out I doubt anything will happen as I believe that book is out September 1st? There is still a chance yes with the next Comic con and Gamescom coming up and with Andromeda's big wigs being at the next Comic con perhaps they'll be attending that because they plan on announcing something there. Because usually when something is being announced usually the big wigs are involved. I suspect Gamescom will mostly be for Anthem so it probably won't happen there but I'm not dismissing the possibility it may. The best shot we have left I think is that next Comic con I think. If nothing happens there I don't think it likely will happen at all. Do note that book can still be delayed, in fact 1st September isn't even final release date for ME:Annihilation. So, we have to wait and see for changes. Otherwise, really there's no point for expecting anything post-September.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 13:40:58 GMT
tbh I think it would be too late by then because some of the books would already be out. If they don't say anything by the time that first book is out I doubt anything will happen as I believe that book is out September 1st? There is still a chance yes with the next Comic con and Gamescom coming up and with Andromeda's big wigs being at the next Comic con perhaps they'll be attending that because they plan on announcing something there. Because usually when something is being announced usually the big wigs are involved. I suspect Gamescom will mostly be for Anthem so it probably won't happen there but I'm not dismissing the possibility it may. The best shot we have left I think is that next Comic con I think. If nothing happens there I don't think it likely will happen at all. Do note that book can still be delayed, in fact 1st September isn't even final release date for ME:Annihilation. So, we have to wait and see for changes. Otherwise, really there's no point for expecting anything post-September. True but I'm mostly assuming that date as it was only recently revealed and I suspect they wouldn't reveal such a specific date so soon unless it was close to finished
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 9, 2017 13:54:45 GMT
Do note that book can still be delayed, in fact 1st September isn't even final release date for ME:Annihilation. So, we have to wait and see for changes. Otherwise, really there's no point for expecting anything post-September. True but I'm mostly assuming that date as it was only recently revealed and I suspect they wouldn't reveal such a specific date so soon unless it was close to finished Its already finished or close to being finished, otherwise why would they bother to give a release date? I imagine that doing a book is a lot "easier" (i mean all it is just text vs animations, sounds, gameplay etc, etc) then making a dlc and there just waiting on BioWare approval to actually release it. I imagine the book is tied to dlc in some fashion-like how Nexus Uprising was tied to Andromeda. BioWare wouldn't want the book to come out first before the dlc even does; which could reveal spoilers and or worse--take away potential sales from the dlc.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 14:30:15 GMT
True but I'm mostly assuming that date as it was only recently revealed and I suspect they wouldn't reveal such a specific date so soon unless it was close to finished Its already finished or close to being finished, otherwise why would they bother to give a release date? I imagine that doing a book is a lot "easier" (i mean all it is just text vs animations, sounds, gameplay etc, etc) then making a dlc and there just waiting on BioWare approval to actually release it. I imagine the book is tied to dlc in some fashion-like how Nexus Uprising was tied to Andromeda. BioWare wouldn't want the book to come out first before the dlc even does; which could reveal spoilers and or worse--take away potential sales from the dlc. Exactly that's what I was saying there they were just waiting for the Green light and I believe that these books will likely be connected to DLC's which means that to me if those books come out without mention of a DLC before hand it's unlikely we'll get DLC which is why also why I said if we don't hear anything by the end of August it's unlikely we will regarding DLC. I'm still hopefull as we stil have that next Comic con which I believe the big wigs are attending and Gamescom as well so there's still a chance for them to turn it around although they do need to act fast if they're going to. Because I think patience is running pretty low now. i'm not talking about myself as I'm probably as patient and calm about these things as they come but I'm referring to everyone in general that are waiting for news.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 9, 2017 14:35:35 GMT
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Frankly I'm surprised that Bio is still going ahead with the Andromeda book publishing project.
Andromeda was poorly received, the game put on hiatus. Do they really believe that the studio will get a positive return on their book publishing investment?
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Post by SofNascimento on Jul 9, 2017 14:38:11 GMT
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Frankly I'm surprised that Bio is still going ahead with the Andromeda book publishing project.
Andromeda was poorly received, the game put on hiatus. Do they really believe that the studio will get a positive return on their book publishing investment?
They had probably already paid for it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 14:39:58 GMT
Andromeda was poorly received, the game put on hiatus. Do they really believe that the studio will get a positive return on their book publishing investment? Or maybe it's because neither a.) nor b.) are true in the slightest, and Nexus Uprising has likely sold quite well too.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 9, 2017 14:45:08 GMT
Its already finished or close to being finished, otherwise why would they bother to give a release date? I imagine that doing a book is a lot "easier" (i mean all it is just text vs animations, sounds, gameplay etc, etc) then making a dlc and there just waiting on BioWare approval to actually release it. I imagine the book is tied to dlc in some fashion-like how Nexus Uprising was tied to Andromeda. BioWare wouldn't want the book to come out first before the dlc even does; which could reveal spoilers and or worse--take away potential sales from the dlc. Exactly that's what I was saying there they were just waiting for the Green light and I believe that these books will likely be connected to DLC's which means that to me if those books come out without mention of a DLC before hand it's unlikely we'll get DLC which is why also why I said if we don't hear anything by the end of August it's unlikely we will regarding DLC. I'm still hopefull as we stil have that next Comic con which I believe the big wigs are attending and Gamescom as well so there's still a chance for them to turn it around although they do need to act fast if they're going to. Because I think patience is running pretty low now. i'm not talking about myself as I'm probably as patient and calm about these things as they come but I'm referring to everyone in general that are waiting for news. -(_MEA_)-
Ever the optimist, I see. I wish it were so.
Unless sales have spiked, there can't be any justification for a DLC. Look at how hard the studio is trying to prop up the MP game. Besides, haven't the devs been scattered to the four corners of "somewhere"?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 14:45:32 GMT
Its already finished or close to being finished, otherwise why would they bother to give a release date? I imagine that doing a book is a lot "easier" (i mean all it is just text vs animations, sounds, gameplay etc, etc) then making a dlc and there just waiting on BioWare approval to actually release it. I imagine the book is tied to dlc in some fashion-like how Nexus Uprising was tied to Andromeda. BioWare wouldn't want the book to come out first before the dlc even does; which could reveal spoilers and or worse--take away potential sales from the dlc. Worth noting as well that Mass Effect: Annihilation's cover hasn't been revealed yet, even though the third novel, Initiation, had its cover revealed. Which suggests the cover itself of Annihilation is a spoiler, perhaps even for the main game itself. And I'm willing to bet that it's because it has a quarian on the cover.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 14:48:59 GMT
Exactly that's what I was saying there they were just waiting for the Green light and I believe that these books will likely be connected to DLC's which means that to me if those books come out without mention of a DLC before hand it's unlikely we'll get DLC which is why also why I said if we don't hear anything by the end of August it's unlikely we will regarding DLC. I'm still hopefull as we stil have that next Comic con which I believe the big wigs are attending and Gamescom as well so there's still a chance for them to turn it around although they do need to act fast if they're going to. Because I think patience is running pretty low now. i'm not talking about myself as I'm probably as patient and calm about these things as they come but I'm referring to everyone in general that are waiting for news. -(_MEA_)-
Ever the optimist, I see. I wish it were so.
Unless sales have spiked, there can't be any justification for a DLC. Look at how hard the studio is trying to prop up the MP game. Besides, haven't the devs been scattered to the four corners of "somewhere"?
I prefer being optimistic than negative and down about everything.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 9, 2017 14:54:23 GMT
Andromeda was poorly received, the game put on hiatus. Do they really believe that the studio will get a positive return on their book publishing investment? Or maybe it's because neither a.) nor b.) are true in the slightest, and Nexus Uprising has likely sold quite well too. So did the Art of Mass Effect:Andromeda as well apparently. Maybe whoever did that book at different expectations then EA did, but still. Also, BioWare continue's to this narrative (at least their consistent I'll give 'em that) of "we can't talk about it" even after the hoax and the "article" aftermath. I'm no expert, but I imagine that BioWare would want to control (instead of letting trolls and rando's control it) the narrative immediately following those incidents and not continue this "we can't talk about it- just because". I feel what was said at Comic-Con was the biggest hint they could give without saying anything at least until San Diego. When their more well know people (you know that ones you see in interviews all the time) are going to actually release info about said dlc. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised f see a trailer at San Diego.
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Post by Sartoz on Jul 9, 2017 14:55:41 GMT
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Frankly I'm surprised that Bio is still going ahead with the Andromeda book publishing project.
Andromeda was poorly received, the game put on hiatus. Do they really believe that the studio will get a positive return on their book publishing investment?
They had probably already paid for it? -(_MEA_)-
Depends on the contract. Baen, for example, pay their authors a percentage of the book sales, while TOR (I think) pays the author an amount upfront. The latter is risky but I'm sure the amount is based on the strength of the author's reputation.
By "positive return" I meant good reviews = good for the game and not a financial return. Bio probably gave TOR limited rights to Andromeda and TOR is on the hook financially (imo).
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Or maybe it's because neither a.) nor b.) are true in the slightest, and Nexus Uprising has likely sold quite well too. So did the Art of Mass Effect:Andromeda as well apparently. Maybe whoever did that book at different expectations then EA did, but still. Also, BioWare continue's to this narrative (at least their consistent I'll give 'em that) of "we can't talk about it" even after the hoax and the "article" aftermath. I'm no expert, but I imagine that BioWare would want to control (instead of letting trolls and rando's control it) the narrative immediately following those incidents and not continue this "we can't talk about it- just because". I feel what was said at Comic-Con was the biggest hint they could give without saying anything at least until San Diego. When their more well know people (you know that ones you see in interviews all the time) are going to actually release info about said dlc. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised f see a trailer at San Diego. yeah considering the big wigs are at San Diego that's when I think they'll do it if at all.
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Post by Fogg on Jul 9, 2017 17:38:53 GMT
Its already finished or close to being finished, otherwise why would they bother to give a release date? I imagine that doing a book is a lot "easier" (i mean all it is just text vs animations, sounds, gameplay etc, etc) then making a dlc and there just waiting on BioWare approval to actually release it. I imagine the book is tied to dlc in some fashion-like how Nexus Uprising was tied to Andromeda. BioWare wouldn't want the book to come out first before the dlc even does; which could reveal spoilers and or worse--take away potential sales from the dlc. Worth noting as well that Mass Effect: Annihilation's cover hasn't been revealed yet, even though the third novel, Initiation, had its cover revealed. Which suggests the cover itself of Annihilation is a spoiler, perhaps even for the main game itself. And I'm willing to bet that it's because it has a quarian on the cover. Initiation was originally supposed to be the first book of the four, that's why the publisher already had a concept cover to show around to foreign rights publishers
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Post by Sarayne on Jul 9, 2017 17:39:17 GMT
So did the Art of Mass Effect:Andromeda as well apparently. Maybe whoever did that book at different expectations then EA did, but still. Also, BioWare continue's to this narrative (at least their consistent I'll give 'em that) of "we can't talk about it" even after the hoax and the "article" aftermath. I'm no expert, but I imagine that BioWare would want to control (instead of letting trolls and rando's control it) the narrative immediately following those incidents and not continue this "we can't talk about it- just because". I feel what was said at Comic-Con was the biggest hint they could give without saying anything at least until San Diego. When their more well know people (you know that ones you see in interviews all the time) are going to actually release info about said dlc. Call me crazy, but I wouldn't be surprised f see a trailer at San Diego. yeah considering the big wigs are at San Diego that's when I think they'll do it if at all. I really hope this is true but its so hard to keep up the hope
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 18:07:07 GMT
yeah considering the big wigs are at San Diego that's when I think they'll do it if at all. I really hope this is true but its so hard to keep up the hope yeah I think it's likely our last shot if nothing happens there then it's likely it won't but considering the senior personnel are there it's a pretty good one. Because usually the big wigs are usually involved when anything's announced such as a DLC I've noticed. At least most of the time this has been the case.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 9, 2017 18:11:15 GMT
I really hope this is true but its so hard to keep up the hope yeah I think it's likely our last shot if nothing happens there then it's likely it won't but considering the senior personnel are there it's a pretty good one. Because usually the big wigs are usually involved when anything's announced such as a DLC I've noticed. At least most of the time this has been the case. Yea, they only went to Montreal cause it was in their back yard. I imagine its not cheap to send three guys (technically five, but from a MEA point-of-view three) all the way San Diego just for a signing and some high fives with fans.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 18:14:54 GMT
yeah I think it's likely our last shot if nothing happens there then it's likely it won't but considering the senior personnel are there it's a pretty good one. Because usually the big wigs are usually involved when anything's announced such as a DLC I've noticed. At least most of the time this has been the case. Yea, they only went to Montreal cause it was in their back yard. I imagine its not cheap to send three guys (technically five, but from a MEA point-of-view three) all the way San Diego just for a signing and some high fives with fans. yeah especially considering San Diego I think is on the other side of the US in California. I've never been there myself but I know it's down in the southern end.
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Post by bshep on Jul 9, 2017 19:39:16 GMT
yeah I think it's likely our last shot if nothing happens there then it's likely it won't but considering the senior personnel are there it's a pretty good one. Because usually the big wigs are usually involved when anything's announced such as a DLC I've noticed. At least most of the time this has been the case. Yea, they only went to Montreal cause it was in their back yard. I imagine its not cheap to send three guys (technically five, but from a MEA point-of-view three) all the way San Diego just for a signing and some high fives with fans. They are promoting both Mass Effect and Dragon Age comics series with Dark Horse. Don't forget that. If some DLC really do exist(?) they will most likely announce outside from those events...
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 9, 2017 19:57:47 GMT
Yea, they only went to Montreal cause it was in their back yard. I imagine its not cheap to send three guys (technically five, but from a MEA point-of-view three) all the way San Diego just for a signing and some high fives with fans. They are promoting both Mass Effect and Dragon Age comics series with Dark Horse. Don't forget that. If some DLC really do exist(?) they will most likely announce outside from those events... maybe for later DLC's but I think the initial first DLC usually gets announced at a convention normally I could be wrong but that seems to me like the normal procedure for AAA style games is to announce the first one at an event like that. Either way I'll be happy whenever hey announce it. I was just pointing out that it's likely our best bet is that it'll happen then if it happens at all. I do have my fingers crossed though.
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