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Post by bohemiadrinker on Jul 17, 2017 6:21:48 GMT
Scott Hauenstein @shatterhand1701 @tibermoon You've left me with no reason to disbelieve you've abandoned #MassEffectAndromeda and its fans. We deserved better than that. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI'm sorry you feel abandoned. We patched the game again and added new MP content as recently as 10 days ago. Matt Hansen @matthewhn7 I think the lack of clarification of singleplayer DLC to a fan base who thinks the franchise is dead. Is the cause for that feeling. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI can understand that. Alas, I can neither confirm nor deny SP DLC plans. NDAs and all that. Unfortunately MP is not something that fans want out of a BioWare game. I'd really want to read said NDA, one day. However it's probably chalk full of legal words that I'll never understand. Like I doubt it's as simple as, "Thou shall not talk about dlc--Ever!" However if the NDA is running this long-I must say why bother? Especially if the decision has been made that there will be no dlc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are NDA's only to protect future content and not whatever coming out? Like BioWare revealed that the Exalted March was never coming out for DA2, but then focused dev on what would become DAI. NDAs state that you do not get to say shit until parent company tells you so. It's not about what they can or cannot say to circumvent it, there's no set period of time and it's not an agreement in which Bio gets the power to say "well, I guess it's done now, let's just do what we want".
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Post by bohemiadrinker on Jul 17, 2017 6:25:12 GMT
That said, yeah, people (myself included, and vocally) have been really pissed about the withholding of info, and not just now. Bioware silence has been annoying since the game was announced, the game has been out for 4 months and this continues to be true.
Someone should review this marketing approach, because frankly, it sucks.
But go to dev's account pointing fingers at them because of it is the single most wrong headed move possible. There's nothiung they can do about it, and I bet it frustrates them more than it frustrates us.
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 6:45:32 GMT
This marketing strategy is down to how EA counts profits for their shareholders. Once they announce DLC they don't claim any profits from the game until the DLC is out, or something like that. That is why we don't hear anything.
It is a really shite strategy especially compared to companies like Creative Assembly who give out their free-DLC schedule and have already let people know that they're making all the tabletop factions available for Total Warhammer, so people have a fair idea of what new DLC is coming out. It makes sense and generates a lot more excitement. Theirs isn't perfect either, but its a lot better than Bioware. But Bioware can't do much about it :<
Also, has anyone sent Ian Frazier messages about adding the batarian to the lore of SP by adding his weapon to the game and adding an email or some other written content to reveal that a batarian has been found in cryo? SP Players wouldn't mind the new MP stuff so much if the lore additions in MP were reflected in SP. I'd be really interested in seeing his answer to it, if anyone wants to try?
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Post by jediguardian on Jul 17, 2017 9:02:31 GMT
SeekerCat5500 @seekercat5500Who Is The Best Bioware Romance? goo.gl/RuaQx3 Please RT to get as many people to vote as possible! David Gaider @davidgaider My space-girlfriend Tali! I committed genocide just for you, baby. SKY Kaidan Alenko Reyes Vidal DA is not even in my TOP3
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 17, 2017 11:09:47 GMT
Poor Ian. Does no one get that about NDAs? :smh: Bitches be impatient. I just wonder if this is the result of..recent political events or something...but while the fandom has always beena bit impatient, they have never been this violent about it. Its like they expect the world may end tommorow so dammit, we need our Mass Effect. Indeed I understand why they exist but they can be a bit annoying sometimes especially after what with the game being dragged through the mud by certain people who I won't bother mentioning anymore and other haters. It would be nice to have a simple straightforward answer.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 11:35:33 GMT
Scott Hauenstein @shatterhand1701 @tibermoon You've left me with no reason to disbelieve you've abandoned #MassEffectAndromeda and its fans. We deserved better than that. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI'm sorry you feel abandoned. We patched the game again and added new MP content as recently as 10 days ago. Matt Hansen @matthewhn7 I think the lack of clarification of singleplayer DLC to a fan base who thinks the franchise is dead. Is the cause for that feeling. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI can understand that. Alas, I can neither confirm nor deny SP DLC plans. NDAs and all that. Unfortunately MP is not something that fans want out of a BioWare game. I'd really want to read said NDA, one day. However it's probably chalk full of legal words that I'll never understand. Like I doubt it's as simple as, "Thou shall not talk about dlc--Ever!" However if the NDA is running this long-I must say why bother? Especially if the decision has been made that there will be no dlc. Correct me if I'm wrong, but are NDA's only to protect future content and not whatever coming out? Like BioWare revealed that the Exalted March was never coming out for DA2, but then focused dev on what would become DAI. I want MP and the Quarian arc story and A2. I am greedy like that.
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 13:18:28 GMT
I don't mind MP being added to as long as the SP gets those upgrades as well, such as with the Batarian. They wouldn't have needed much work to add a new mail about him and the Kishock Harpoon Gun, and suddenly the SP game has been expanded alongside the MP. I only get annoyed by MP getting updated because they never transfer them across to SP in the same way.
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Post by Babar Guy on Jul 17, 2017 13:19:43 GMT
Scott Hauenstein @shatterhand1701 @tibermoon You've left me with no reason to disbelieve you've abandoned #MassEffectAndromeda and its fans. We deserved better than that. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI'm sorry you feel abandoned. We patched the game again and added new MP content as recently as 10 days ago. Matt Hansen @matthewhn7 I think the lack of clarification of singleplayer DLC to a fan base who thinks the franchise is dead. Is the cause for that feeling. Ian S. Frazier @tibermoonI can understand that. Alas, I can neither confirm nor deny SP DLC plans. NDAs and all that. Social media was a mistake.
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 13:32:35 GMT
It'd be nice if they started doing Q&A sessions here rather than just responding on twitter.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Jul 17, 2017 13:39:51 GMT
It'd be nice if they started doing Q&A sessions here rather than just responding on twitter. well Ian does have an account her as do some of the other devs i believe but I can understand why they do go silent though. I get the feeling though that something good will be coming our way soon we just have to be patient a little while longer
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 17, 2017 13:45:22 GMT
It'd be nice if they started doing Q&A sessions here rather than just responding on twitter. I think Hrungr would be out of a job if they started doing that...
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 13:46:35 GMT
It'd be nice if they started doing Q&A sessions here rather than just responding on twitter. well Ian does have an account her as do some of the other devs i believe but I can understand why they do go silent though. I get the feeling though that something good will be coming our way soon we just have to be patient a little while longer Maybe someone could ask them on twitter if they'd consider doing a Q&A session on here, maybe have a thread dedicated to collecting questions about the lore and gameplay into a concise list so that they could just tick their way through them all. I'd be happy to make it, but I don't use twitter at all, so I'd never be able to bring it to their attention.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 17, 2017 13:52:44 GMT
well Ian does have an account her as do some of the other devs i believe but I can understand why they do go silent though. I get the feeling though that something good will be coming our way soon we just have to be patient a little while longer Maybe someone could ask them on twitter if they'd consider doing a Q&A session on here, maybe have a thread dedicated to collecting questions about the lore and gameplay into a concise list so that they could just tick their way through them all. I'd be happy to make it, but I don't use twitter at all, so I'd never be able to bring it to their attention. All the questions that we want answered are probably under NDA, so what's the point? It would have to be specific enough Q&A. Like a upcoming content that's been announced or patch notes Q&A.
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 14:02:21 GMT
I'm sure there are loads of questions that don't involve DLC. I have a whole bunch from the OT that it would be cool to get answers for, and I'm sure people have questions about ME:A's setting, gameplay mechanics, etc.
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Post by merlinistyle on Jul 17, 2017 14:03:29 GMT
Come one, guys. We have already got an amazing game and everyone's been enjoying it since first few patches(cant say about earlier time, started myself in late May, got a new pc just then). I am sure, Devs are giving all they got. Dont forget, they are people and care for the game if not more, then not less definitely! than everyone's here. Media is not a mistake, they are trying to reach us, guys. They communicate as much and as open as they can,being bound by EA. Without it, we would have been completely lost and blind here. Q&A would not work either, cause most questions, i am sure, would just fall under the line, which they would not be able to discuss, and that would only cause more desperation and sorrow. Lets just wait. Its not easy, never easy. But as hell as it is not easy, it is always worth it.
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 14:07:16 GMT
It wouldn't be hard to get a bunch of questions that don't involve DLC.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2017 14:13:56 GMT
A Q&A is a good idea in theory, but best to wait until when/if dlc is announced. And yeah, maybe you could find questions that aren't about dlc, but right now that's what everyone wants to know about. Any thread, no matter how good its intentions, would devolve into people asking about dlc.
And it ain't fair on the devs to keep asking questions we know they can't answer yet.
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Post by Andrew Waples on Jul 17, 2017 14:22:26 GMT
Any thread, no matter how good its intentions, would devolve into people asking about dlc.
And it ain't fair on the devs to keep asking questions we know they can't answer yet. I don't watch the MP live streams, but I hear that already does occur over there.
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Post by Hrungr on Jul 17, 2017 15:23:54 GMT
Kat Tara =^. .^= @kattara13 Anybody know what time the daily challenges reset? #MassEffectAndromeda @tibermoon
Ian S. Frazier @tibermoon Just checked. Looks like it updates at midnight UTC.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 17, 2017 15:30:55 GMT
Poor Ian. Does no one get that about NDAs? :smh: Indeed it does make you wonder. Many people are ignorant about NDA's. As well when you know about it, it is still hard not to be frustrated about total silence.
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Post by Fogg on Jul 17, 2017 16:11:05 GMT
mentioning a nda is often already breaking the nda
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Post by sil on Jul 17, 2017 17:04:33 GMT
An Elcor. The trip was hard on him.
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Post by Croatsky on Jul 17, 2017 17:23:59 GMT
mentioning a nda is often already breaking the nda So either this NDA doesn't include or someone higher up allowed to mention NDA for some reason.
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