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Post by pdusen on Oct 17, 2016 1:39:13 GMT
Fabrice Condominas @faburisuWhen you don't understand why nobody shows up to your recurrent Monday meeting until you realize it's Sunday ,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ A reflection of the game's development? Is it really necessary to say this every time a dev opens their mouth?
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Post by KirkyX on Oct 17, 2016 2:14:47 GMT
'Pithy salvo', seriously? Mocking someone for at least trying to do something about the fucking epidemic of harassment on Twitter isn't exactly productive, mate. And why on Earth should she let the bullies and the trolls scare her off the service? She has as much of a right to use Twitter as anyone else--and even moving beyond that, social media can actually be extremely important for authors and other creators who want to get their work out there. Besides, deciding to simply 'back away' is demonstrably ineffectual in plenty of cases--look at the harassment campaigns, that she cited, against Zoe Quinn and Leslie Jones. Both went far, far beyond social media, into doxxing and stealing private information. And then there's Alison Rapp, who lost her job as a direct consequence of GamerGate's usual shitpiling.Sorry if I'm coming on a little strong, but this kind of attitude - 'nut up or shut up', more or less, with a side of mocking any who actually try to address the problem - is a big part of why online harassment campaigns are still so fucking easy to organise and perpetrate. EDIT: Also, it ought be pointed out that her solution actually has shades of what you're suggesting. She proposes that people stop using Twitter and move to another service, one that actually seems to give a shit about preventing abuse. Sadly, Twitter has something of an entrenched position - it's simply where people are - so any such exodus won't be easy. Alison Rapp lost her job because she was an advocate for paedophilia and child pornography per her own thesis and admission. And also moonlighting as a prostitute, which she admitted to. All of this while working with and promoting towards children in a childrens toy company. And these are just some of the problematic things about this person, to say the least. I'm totally against harassment of any kind. I can't stand these gamergaters. And I'm usually the first person side with people whom are being harassed, but no one is to blame but Alison Rapp herself for losing her job. This is definitely the wrong forum to talk about these stuff. Lets go back to dreaming about Andromeda. If you don't want to talk about this sort of thing here - I certainly bloody well don't - you shouldn't so readily repeat Gamergate garbage as fact. Alison Rapp was not an advocate for paedophilia--her thesis dealt with cultural imperialism, with whether the West had any right to impose its own cultural values on Japanese media, which has a very different set of standards, including with regard to the sexualisation of minors. Have you actually read her thesis, out of curiosity? Or written a university thesis yourself? The point is to argue a position to the best of your ability, and then defend it in front of your academic tutors, regardless of how strongly you believe in it yourself. And her tutors clearly believed her thesis had validity, or they wouldn't have passed her. And she most certainly did not admit to working as a prostitute. She admitted to having a second job--it's Gamergate who pulled out the 'prostitute' shit. I've seen their 'evidence'. It is less than compelling, and very much in line with the sort of shite they always pull. And, frankly, even if they had managed to dredge up actual proof, it'd be none of their fucking business. Alison Rapp lost her job as the consequence of a targeted harassment campaign, brought to bare on her purely because she was a woman, working at Nintendo, who had professed feminist values. Gamergate saw her as an obvious scapegoat in the 'censorship' of some localised Japanese games, and did everything they could to ruin her life. In the end, their damning 'evidence' against her was a university thesis that actually demonstrated that she had argued exactly the points they were supposedly making in regard to why the content they were pissed about being cut - specifically, sexualised depictions of minors - oughtn't be removed from localised games. Her case is one of the most blatant demonstrations of Gamergate hypocrisy, and outright misogyny, there is. And now, having said my piece, I would be perfectly willing to move off of this discussion. If you are as well, then let's leave it at this. If not, well, that's up to you.
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Post by Darth_Atreyu on Oct 17, 2016 3:15:37 GMT
Alison Rapp lost her job because she was an advocate for paedophilia and child pornography per her own thesis and admission. And also moonlighting as a prostitute, which she admitted to. All of this while working with and promoting towards children in a childrens toy company. And these are just some of the problematic things about this person, to say the least. I'm totally against harassment of any kind. I can't stand these gamergaters. And I'm usually the first person side with people whom are being harassed, but no one is to blame but Alison Rapp herself for losing her job. This is definitely the wrong forum to talk about these stuff. Lets go back to dreaming about Andromeda. If you don't want to talk about this sort of thing here - I certainly bloody well don't - you shouldn't so readily repeat Gamergate garbage as fact. Allison Rapp was not an advocate for paedophilia--her thesis dealt with cultural imperialism, with whether the West had any right to impose its own cultural values on Japanese media, which has a very different set of standards, including with regard to the sexualisation of minors. Have you actually read her thesis, out of curiosity? Or written a university thesis yourself? The point is to argue a position to the best of your ability, and then defend it in front of your academic tutors, regardless of how strongly you believe in it yourself. And her tutors clearly believed her thesis had validity, or they wouldn't have passed her. And she most certainly did not admit to working as a prostitute. She admitted to having a second job--it's Gamergate who pulled out the 'prostitute' shit. I've seen their 'evidence'. It is less than compelling, and very much in line with the sort of shite they always pull. And, frankly, even if they had managed to dredge up actual proof, it'd be none of their fucking business. Allison Rapp lost her job as the consequence of a targeted harassment campaign, brought to bare on her purely because she was a woman, working at Nintendo, who had professed feminist values. Gamergate saw her as an obvious scapegoat in the 'censorship' of some localised Japanese games, and did everything they could to ruin her life. In the end, their damning 'evidence' against her was a university thesis that actually demonstrated that she had argued exactly the points they were supposedly making in regard to why the content they were pissed about being cut - specifically, sexualised depictions of minors - oughtn't be removed from localised games. Her case is one of the most blatant demonstrations of Gamergate hypocrisy, and outright misogyny, there is. And now, having said my piece, I would be perfectly willing to move off of this discussion. If you are as well, then let's leave it at this. If not, well, that's up to you. Eh. What's the point. you've already firmly dug yourself into the trenches.
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Post by midnight tea on Oct 17, 2016 3:31:57 GMT
Eh. What's the point. you've already firmly dug yourself into the trenches. ...Actually it's the other way around, hon.
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Post by Element Zero on Oct 17, 2016 3:41:31 GMT
KirkyX, I wasn't mocking anyone. I didn't read much beyond the first 20 or so clearly distraught tweets she'd made. I think it's sad people let this crap affect their real, offline lives. I absolutely think walking away is the better option. Fighting an endless war against mostly faceless bullies might seem noble, but it clearly takes a heavy toll on some people. Far from mocking her, I was asking whether it's really worth the cost. The world and profession survived before Twitter, and I'm sure it can and will thrive without it. Personally, I don't think it's worth the emotional investment these individuals choose to make, however just their fight. I'm not looking to get into too lengthy a discussion about it, but I wanted to be clear that I do not have a callous attitude toward her suffering. I hope she doesn't get caught up indefinitely in the back and forth online hate-fest. It's not worth it.
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Post by Pearl on Oct 17, 2016 3:45:19 GMT
i think all of you are idiots
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Post by Darth_Atreyu on Oct 17, 2016 3:53:58 GMT
Eh. What's the point. you've already firmly dug yourself into the trenches. ...Actually it's the other way around, hon. Sure. Who's hon?
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Post by KirkyX on Oct 17, 2016 4:00:34 GMT
Eh. What's the point. you've already firmly dug yourself into the trenches. The feeling, as they say, is mutual--so I suppose we're done. Element ZeroFair enough. I just wanted to put it out there that it isn't so easy for a lot of people to get away from this - if the harassers are committed enough, it'll follow you home - and nor should they be expected to have to. In any case, I don't want to derail the thread any further, so I'll make this my last post on the topic.
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Post by Hrungr on Oct 17, 2016 4:06:51 GMT
Luis Serrano @rulesbuddy are bioware reps going to pax east
Michael Gamble @gamblemike likely. I'll probably be there.
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Post by elitepinecone on Oct 17, 2016 6:56:06 GMT
Edit: nvm, read info somewhere else
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Post by Obliviousmiss on Oct 17, 2016 11:40:06 GMT
IT'S MONDAY! Gimme them tweets.
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Post by originofwaves on Oct 17, 2016 12:49:36 GMT
IT'S MONDAY! Gimme them tweets. i can't. i just can't. your gif game is to strong.
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Post by themikefest on Oct 17, 2016 13:25:19 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike ...And I ask myself, why the hell do I live somewhere that skips Summer an most of Fall? And snows in October? Oh, yeah. @bioware You're welcome to come down here to North Carolina where we have summer and fall. Today it will be be about 82° fahrenheit or 27° celsius
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Post by sosolaris on Oct 17, 2016 14:22:41 GMT
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Post by Sartoz on Oct 17, 2016 15:03:44 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike Spending some time in the Tempest today. I loved the Normandy a lot...she was part of the crew, but the Tempest just might be my favourite.
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Hm... besides elevators, heads, mess hall, engineering and the Pathfinder's quarters, what else down she have?
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Post by joshendriks on Oct 17, 2016 15:40:00 GMT
IT'S MONDAY! Gimme them tweets. Tweet.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Oct 17, 2016 15:58:09 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike Spending some time in the Tempest today. I loved the Normandy a lot...she was part of the crew, but the Tempest just might be my favourite.
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Hm... besides elevators, heads, mess hall, engineering and the Pathfinder's quarters, what else down she have?
Bathrooms & PoolTable/Bar?
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 17, 2016 16:06:49 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike Spending some time in the Tempest today. I loved the Normandy a lot...she was part of the crew, but the Tempest just might be my favourite.
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Hm... besides elevators, heads, mess hall, engineering and the Pathfinder's quarters, what else down she have?
Bathrooms & PoolTable/Bar? I think Sartoz is right, I think they would be considered 'Heads'...
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Oct 17, 2016 16:09:28 GMT
Bathrooms & PoolTable/Bar? I think Sartoz is right, I think they would be considered 'Heads'... Er... humm... Observation deck?
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Post by SofaJockey on Oct 17, 2016 16:21:30 GMT
I think Sartoz is right, I think they would be considered 'Heads'... Er... humm... Observation deck? Maybe we should look to Skyhold for inspiration? A colonization table? Hydroponics? Farm?
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Post by themikefest on Oct 17, 2016 16:27:18 GMT
Bathrooms & PoolTable/Bar? I think Sartoz is right, I think they would be considered 'Heads'... Or latrine depending on which branch of the military you're talking about.
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Post by The Biotic Trebuchet on Oct 17, 2016 16:40:28 GMT
Er... humm... Observation deck? Maybe we should look to Skyhold for inspiration? A colonization table? Hydroponics? Farm? Empty Towers free space in the Tempest, Mechant Quarter Requesition Officer, Trone room CIC?
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Post by PapaCharlie9 on Oct 17, 2016 17:00:20 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike Spending some time in the Tempest today. I loved the Normandy a lot...she was part of the crew, but the Tempest just might be my favourite.
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Hm... besides elevators, heads, mess hall, engineering and the Pathfinder's quarters, what else down she have?
Bathrooms & PoolTable/Bar? Why stop at half measures? Full description of ST:NG Galaxy class interior here: memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Galaxy_classNotable in that list: - Holodecks
- Morgue
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- Zero-gee bangin' bay (aka Captain's Quarters)
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Post by Pearl on Oct 17, 2016 17:05:28 GMT
Michael Gamble @gamblemike Spending some time in the Tempest today. I loved the Normandy a lot...she was part of the crew, but the Tempest just might be my favourite.
,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸-(_MEA_)-,.-~*´¨¯¨`*·~-.¸ Hm... besides elevators, heads, mess hall, engineering and the Pathfinder's quarters, what else down she have?
Blackjack and hookers
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