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Post by midnight tea on Aug 22, 2017 15:07:21 GMT
I feel the the same pain and anger as everyone else, but boycotting Bioware right now is like boycotting Joss Whedon because Fox cancelled Firefly. From Casey's point of view, Mass Effect is his baby. The only way EA will throw another $40m at Bioware for a new Mass Effect game will be if they have confidence in the management, the team and the brand. That means he has to make a success of Anthem and DA4. If we're going to vote with our wallets, it should be to show that Mass Effect fans aren't going anywhere. Pretty sure them putting out an unfinished game, releasing a couple patches, and then dropping said game like it's plagued doesn't mean I should give them MORE of my money. I will buy DA4 after release if it looks good. Anthem was not something I was interested in anyways. To be fair, it wasn't Bioware's decision to shut the Montreal studio, but EA's. Even Kotaku's article mentions that they were ready to work on DLCs and next game right off the bat, but then the news crashed. Hard to continue support with non-existing studio and two other teams being deep into developing their own huge projects, including one new IP.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2017 16:09:39 GMT
I feel the the same pain and anger as everyone else, but boycotting Bioware right now is like boycotting Joss Whedon because Fox cancelled Firefly. From Casey's point of view, Mass Effect is his baby. The only way EA will throw another $40m at Bioware for a new Mass Effect game will be if they have confidence in the management, the team and the brand. That means he has to make a success of Anthem and DA4. If we're going to vote with our wallets, it should be to show that Mass Effect fans aren't going anywhere. Pretty sure them putting out an unfinished game, releasing a couple patches, and then dropping said game like it's plagued doesn't mean I should give them MORE of my money. I will buy DA4 after release if it looks good. Anthem was not something I was interested in anyways. yeah I'll get DA4 as I'm just as much a fan of DA as I am the ME series. It's at times like these where I remind myself of Hackett's speech at the end of ME3 just before the final mission.
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Post by Andrew Lucas on Aug 22, 2017 16:17:24 GMT
It's just a game. It's not that deep.
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Post by Solas on Aug 22, 2017 16:53:27 GMT
I feel the the same pain and anger as everyone else, but boycotting Bioware right now is like boycotting Joss Whedon because Fox cancelled Firefly. From Casey's point of view, Mass Effect is his baby. The only way EA will throw another $40m at Bioware for a new Mass Effect game will be if they have confidence in the management, the team and the brand. That means he has to make a success of Anthem and DA4. If we're going to vote with our wallets, it should be to show that Mass Effect fans aren't going anywhere. but.. I dont care about Anthem..
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 22, 2017 17:01:08 GMT
DeafGamersTV @deafgamerstv Whoaa @bioware @masseffect no no you're not done yet. We still need to get those subtitles fixed. Make it bigger☹️
Karen Stevens @ea_accessible I'll try to catch @gamblemike on Monday, but I also know that they were having space issues with text layouts. No promises, but I'll ask.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 17:06:37 GMT
Freakin Anthem again. They just have to add the salt to the wound.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 22, 2017 17:11:37 GMT
Congratulations, Bioware. You have officially lost me as a costumer with what you have done. Not me. I'm still going to preorder the next DA game. Might even get the collecotr's edition and guidebook as well. Looking forward to seeing what happens in that game. If another ME game is released, I believe one will be, I most likely will purchase it. Though it might not be at full price.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Aug 22, 2017 17:35:09 GMT
Congratulations, Bioware. You have officially lost me as a costumer with what you have done. Not me. I'm still going to preorder the next DA game. Might even get the collecotr's edition and guidebook as well. Looking forward to seeing what happens in that game. If another ME game is released, I believe one will be, I most likely will purchase it. Though it might not be at full price. Yeah I'm not going anywhere near Anthem but the next DA certainly interests me.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 22, 2017 18:14:10 GMT
I'll just leave this here. Editing this No Loose Ends "Special Edition' made me feel a lot better...
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Post by MegaIllusiveMan on Aug 22, 2017 19:03:17 GMT
Congratulations, Bioware. You have officially lost me as a costumer with what you have done. Not me. I'm still going to preorder the next DA game. Might even get the collecotr's edition and guidebook as well. Looking forward to seeing what happens in that game. If another ME game is released, I believe one will be, I most likely will purchase it. Though it might not be at full price. I agree with you on this one, Mike. But no preorders for me,though. Not anymore. I'm still curious to (hopefully) see where the next Mass Effect goes, but I'll be cautious from now on. Yeah, I'm finally being cautious on any Bioware game now.
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Post by Fogg on Aug 22, 2017 19:07:02 GMT
DeafGamersTV @deafgamerstv Whoaa @bioware @masseffect no no you're not done yet. We still need to get those subtitles fixed. Make it bigger☹️ Karen Stevens @ea_accessibleI'll try to catch @gamblemike on Monday, but I also know that they were having space issues with text layouts. No promises, but I'll ask. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWe won't be able to address this for MEA, but i'll work with the team on this for future titles (including Anthem) Frostbite, the gift that keeps on giving
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Post by kumazan on Aug 22, 2017 19:16:09 GMT
DeafGamersTV @deafgamerstv Whoaa @bioware @masseffect no no you're not done yet. We still need to get those subtitles fixed. Make it bigger☹️ Karen Stevens @ea_accessibleI'll try to catch @gamblemike on Monday, but I also know that they were having space issues with text layouts. No promises, but I'll ask. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWe won't be able to address this for MEA, but i'll work with the team on this for future titles (including Anthem) Frostbite, the gift that keeps on giving A crapload of studios working on the same engine and they still can't tweak subtitle size. Good game.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 22, 2017 19:31:25 GMT
Alix Wilton Regan @alixwiltonreganGoing LIVE with @valranoxtwitch in five minutes time!! Please join us and cheer me on during live interview to discuss #gaming & #masseffect TWITCH
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 21:56:27 GMT
DeafGamersTV @deafgamerstv Whoaa @bioware @masseffect no no you're not done yet. We still need to get those subtitles fixed. Make it bigger☹️ Karen Stevens @ea_accessibleI'll try to catch @gamblemike on Monday, but I also know that they were having space issues with text layouts. No promises, but I'll ask. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWe won't be able to address this for MEA, but i'll work with the team on this for future titles (including Anthem) Poor Michael probably it wasn't meant to sound like that but that is the answer that will surely annoy greatly the hardcore fans of ME. Telling nope stick with the problem we will fix it though for our Co-op online shooter, doesn't sound like the smartest thing to say.
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Post by Garo on Aug 22, 2017 22:11:38 GMT
Sooo not buying Anthem tho.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2017 22:16:55 GMT
Sooo not buying Anthem tho. Good man. If that co-op thing is successful after the problems with MEA you can bet EA will push BW to focus on MP and forget about the rest. I kinda hope it bomb hard.
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Post by midnight tea on Aug 22, 2017 23:48:27 GMT
Sooo not buying Anthem tho. Good man. If that co-op thing is successful after the problems with MEA you can bet EA will push BW to focus on MP and forget about the rest. I kinda hope it bomb hard. Unlikely. Bioware is so far the only studio that creates quality, story-driven games for EA. I also I wouldn't wish failure for Anthem, as it may be a cash cow that will fund other, more ambitious (in terms of premise) projects.
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Post by Hrungr on Aug 23, 2017 0:04:27 GMT
Scylla Costa @scyllacosta"Putting dollars to the donut!". I don't know what @gamblemike was trying to say but it sounded cool. i.imgur.com/ICLSdyJ.gif Michael Gamble @gamblemikeI'd bet dollars to donuts
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Post by kino on Aug 23, 2017 2:32:03 GMT
DeafGamersTV @deafgamerstv Whoaa @bioware @masseffect no no you're not done yet. We still need to get those subtitles fixed. Make it bigger☹️ Karen Stevens @ea_accessibleI'll try to catch @gamblemike on Monday, but I also know that they were having space issues with text layouts. No promises, but I'll ask. Michael Gamble @gamblemikeWe won't be able to address this for MEA, but i'll work with the team on this for future titles (including Anthem) That's so not cool leaving that not fixed.
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Post by smilesja on Aug 23, 2017 4:39:52 GMT
Seriously it's like Bioware is insulting the people who liked ME: A. Never mind the fact that these fans have been defending them from the detractors.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2017 6:39:32 GMT
Good man. If that co-op thing is successful after the problems with MEA you can bet EA will push BW to focus on MP and forget about the rest. I kinda hope it bomb hard. Unlikely. Bioware is so far the only studio that used to create quality, story-driven games for EA. I also I wouldn't wish failure for Anthem, as it may be a cash cow that will fund other, more ambitious (in terms of premise) projects. Well frankly Anthem is a showing that their priorities changed from quality story-driven games to shooters because it's EA. I really don't care about this BW if their Destiny is to produce MP focused games then it's better they fail. I certainly will not support MP focused games and EA ruining gaming studios to force them creating more of the same. I might be a fan of past BW games but I certainly will not support the cash cow. I reward deep and polished SP experiences where the customers are valued and you don't get to abandon the game a couple of months after its release. No I don't give a damn about EA considering unprofitable, I'll make my little stand on this and punish EA for not valuing SP games as they should. Not going to change anything in the big picture but at least I feel better with my conscience. I wished many self-proclaimed SP gamers would take a principled stance on this so that we could make our voice heard through our wallets.
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Post by SofaJockey on Aug 23, 2017 9:03:27 GMT
A publishing company can only meaningfully judge on sales (and market intelligence). How are they to know if someone didn't buy a game because they took a 'principled stand' or whether they wanted more multiplayer? They can only make something they hope people will buy and see if it does well. If it doesn't, they may adjust their next product (or even the one after that) but none of this is fast.
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Post by Heimdall on Aug 23, 2017 9:32:01 GMT
Seriously it's like Bioware is insulting the people who liked ME: A. Never mind the fact that these fans have been defending them from the detractors. I seriously doubt this was Bioware's decision, this probably came from higher up. An EA executive decided to cut their losses and focus their resources elsewhere.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Aug 23, 2017 9:34:09 GMT
Seriously it's like Bioware is insulting the people who liked ME: A. Never mind the fact that these fans have been defending them from the detractors. I'm not surprised. This situation made it clear that the days of them seeing fans as anything more than a number are gone.
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