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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 19:26:19 GMT
Remastered does not equal remade with a revised story and endings. Have I said it does? I don't know. What is your expectation for what a "remaster" would entail?
I've been saying for over a year now that I see a graphical remaster is almost inevitable since there is a whole generation of new consoles coming... but I would hope it would not delay or replace the release of a new ME game and my preference has always been that the new ME game take place in Andromeda... So, I would be one of the those people saying they want both a remaster and a new game in Andromeda. I don't want a remake of the Trilogy that would short-circuit the release of a continuation of the story in Andromeda.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 19:37:01 GMT
Remastered does not equal remade with a revised story and endings Nobody said that. But if you're proposing, sure. From what I've seen, more people are asking for a remaster of the Trilogy AND a continuation of the Andromeda story. Hearsay. ... and your statement earlier was equally hearsay. I read a bunch of the tweets that came back to Gamble and from what I saw, that was the most popular request. It's still doesn't have a lot of meaning since none of us have access to all the responses Gamble likely received through various media. Each of us has formed a different impression, so none of us knows what Gamble's impression of the responses... and his is pretty much the only one that counts. We'll just have to wait to see what Biwoare actually does.
As for a remaster. Please see my response above. IMO, a remaster is inevitable if Bioware wants to maintain the OT as being playable on the next get consoles... graphics would be upgraded at that time. The story and ME3 endings would remain the same. As flawed as it is, the Trilogy story should be left as it is... ME3 and its endings included. I'm fine that since I was perfectly happy with ALL FOUR ME GAMES. I'm a satisfied customer. There is only one thing at this point that would drive me away as a customer... If they declare in some fashion that the Destroy ending is the singular canon ending to ME3. They can even add more ending choices if they want, but leave all the ones we've already been given in play. My preference has always been and it hasn't changed... I want a continuation of the story in Androemda, preferably with Ryder as the PC.
Andoremda has enabled the timeline to jump 600 years beyond the end of the Reaper War... and we could return to a Milky Way Galaxy where the effects of the end of the Reaper War aren't visible anymore... and I would be OK with that as well, although it would not be my preference. Again, my preference is a direct continuation of the story in Andromeda.
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Post by themikefest on Nov 16, 2019 19:43:35 GMT
So you commented just because I said something you didn't agree with?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2019 19:50:58 GMT
So you commented just because I said something you didn't agree with? I commented because there is this ambiguity about what a "remaster" entails. Are all the requests for a remaster the same request... or are some actually asking for a remaster and others asking for a remake under the guise of calling it a remaster? You see it all as the same request and therefore a "majority." I'm saying it's ambiguous. At any rate, Gamble wasn't asking about a remaster. He was clearly asking about where a new ME game should take place.
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 16, 2019 20:14:00 GMT
... and your statement earlier was equally hearsay Yes. The point is that not one's word carries more power than another. Just saying something for impression's sake and running with it. Unless you have confirmation of otherwise. As for a remaster. Please see my response above. IMO, a remaster is inevitable if Bioware wants to maintain the OT as being playable on the next get consoles... graphics would be upgraded at that time There's no real reason to remaster a UE3 game. It's still going to be a UE3 game and look like a UE3 game. Unless you remake it in a new engine, at which point, it is too big an endeavor. The story and ME3 endings would remain the same. As flawed as it is, the Trilogy story should be left as it is... ME3 and its endings included. I'm fine that since I was perfectly happy with ALL FOUR ME GAMES. I'm a satisfied customer. There is only one thing at this point that would drive me away as a customer... If they declare in some fashion that the Destroy ending is the singular canon ending to ME3. They can even add more ending choices if they want, but leave all the ones we've already been given in play. My preference has always been and it hasn't changed... I want a continuation of the story in Androemda, preferably with Ryder as the PC. Nobody's going to buy a 10 year old game that looks and plays like a compilation of 3 games ranging from 15 to 10 years, for an ending that has been criticized heavily, to go through that same experience from 10-15 years ago. Either you leave it dead, or go REmake2/FFVII Remake on it. It's not going to revitalize or reinvigorate the franchise. Andoremda has enabled the timeline to jump 600 years beyond the end of the Reaper War... and we could return to a Milky Way Galaxy where the effects of the end of the Reaper War aren't visible anymore... and I would be OK with that as well, although it would not be my preference. Again, my preference is a direct continuation of the story in Andromeda. So you are OK with Andromeda invalidating the endings, just not in a way that would mend the fanbase divide. Cool.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 1:31:33 GMT
... and your statement earlier was equally hearsay Yes. The point is that not one's word carries more power than another. Just saying something for impression's sake and running with it. Unless you have confirmation of otherwise. As for a remaster. Please see my response above. IMO, a remaster is inevitable if Bioware wants to maintain the OT as being playable on the next get consoles... graphics would be upgraded at that time There's no real reason to remaster a UE3 game. It's still going to be a UE3 game and look like a UE3 game. Unless you remake it in a new engine, at which point, it is too big an endeavor. The story and ME3 endings would remain the same. As flawed as it is, the Trilogy story should be left as it is... ME3 and its endings included. I'm fine that since I was perfectly happy with ALL FOUR ME GAMES. I'm a satisfied customer. There is only one thing at this point that would drive me away as a customer... If they declare in some fashion that the Destroy ending is the singular canon ending to ME3. They can even add more ending choices if they want, but leave all the ones we've already been given in play. My preference has always been and it hasn't changed... I want a continuation of the story in Androemda, preferably with Ryder as the PC. Nobody's going to buy a 10 year old game that looks and plays like a compilation of 3 games ranging from 15 to 10 years, for an ending that has been criticized heavily, to go through that same experience from 10-15 years ago. Either you leave it dead, or go REmake2/FFVII Remake on it. It's not going to revitalize or reinvigorate the franchise. Andoremda has enabled the timeline to jump 600 years beyond the end of the Reaper War... and we could return to a Milky Way Galaxy where the effects of the end of the Reaper War aren't visible anymore... and I would be OK with that as well, although it would not be my preference. Again, my preference is a direct continuation of the story in Andromeda. So you are OK with Andromeda invalidating the endings, just not in a way that would mend the fanbase divide. Cool.
Lots of old games continue to be played on new hardware. Like it or not, that's what a remaster is... and the people who answered Gamble's tweet that I saw were asking for a remaster of the Trilogy AND the continuation of the Andromeda story. The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones.
So far, Andromeda has not invalidated any of the ME3 endings... and if they continue with the story in Andromeda, there would be no need to invalidate any of ME3's endings. If they remake the Trilogy, it probably (note: PROBABLY) won't interest me to buy it... even if I'm playing on a new system by that time. It won't be the same game, but it won't be a new one either. Instead, it will be an altered rehash of an old idea. People expecting a resurrection of old Bioware's Shepard, I think, will not be happy with new Bioware's Shepard and new Bioware's take on the old story anyways... and it will probably come across as Bioware checking off a list of fan "complaints" with the OT... all the while trying to adhere to the fans' strict obsession about the old lore as constructed by people who left Bioware years and years ago.
I'm exceedingly more interested in finding out where they want to take Andromeda... a new story in a new galaxy set 600 years farther into the future and with infinite possibilities.
As I said before, you can HOPE for whatever you like. It's still just HOPE. Sound business practice my eye... and the situation is still "wait to see what actually happens."
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Post by melbella on Nov 17, 2019 4:45:09 GMT
The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones. Egads! I hope not. Games like ME are meant to be played on big ass screens so you can see all the details. (and tell who is who)
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Post by SirSourpuss on Nov 17, 2019 9:12:13 GMT
Lots of old games continue to be played on new hardware. Like it or not, that's what a remaster is... and the people who answered Gamble's tweet that I saw were asking for a remaster of the Trilogy AND the continuation of the Andromeda story. The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones EA has already said not gonna happen. It's not going to generate enough sales, so EA isn't interested in it. " We're a company that is focused on delivering for the future," he told IGN. "I was asked a question once [about remasters and I said] it's just not what we do. We've got incredibly talented dev studios around the world who are focused on delivering new IP, new experiences, [and] more and more live services." It's either live service from here on out, or bust. If Andromeda were a live service, EA may have stuck with it. So far, Andromeda has not invalidated any of the ME3 endings... and if they continue with the story in Andromeda, there would be no need to invalidate any of ME3's endings. But if you return to the milky Way after Andromeda and none of the endings have had any effect, that's not invalidating them? So it's not the today you don't want them to invalidate, it's the tomorrow. Glad to know where you draw the line. . If they remake the Trilogy, it probably (note: PROBABLY) won't interest me to buy it... even if I'm playing on a new system by that time Don't like it, don't buy it. It won't be the same game, but it won't be a new one either. Instead, it will be an altered rehash of an old idea. People expecting a resurrection of old Bioware's Shepard, I think, will not be happy with new Bioware's Shepard and new Bioware's take on the old story anyways... and it will probably come across as Bioware checking off a list of fan "complaints" with the OT... all the while trying to adhere to the fans' strict obsession about the old lore as constructed by people who left Bioware years and years ago. So you are completely disconnected from the lore and the universe. So you admit that you just don't care. I'm exceedingly more interested in finding out where they want to take Andromeda... a new story in a new galaxy set 600 years farther into the future and with infinite possibilities. Which put the franchise on ice and makes sure there will be no continuation to that plot. As I said before, you can HOPE for whatever you like. It's still just HOPE. Sound business practice my eye... and the situation is still "wait to see what actually happens." You misunderstand hope with sound business practice.
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Lots of old games continue to be played on new hardware. Like it or not, that's what a remaster is... and the people who answered Gamble's tweet that I saw were asking for a remaster of the Trilogy AND the continuation of the Andromeda story. The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones EA has already said not gonna happen. It's not going to generate enough sales, so EA isn't interested in it. " We're a company that is focused on delivering for the future," he told IGN. "I was asked a question once [about remasters and I said] it's just not what we do. We've got incredibly talented dev studios around the world who are focused on delivering new IP, new experiences, [and] more and more live services." It's either live service from here on out, or bust. If Andromeda were a live service, EA may have stuck with it. So far, Andromeda has not invalidated any of the ME3 endings... and if they continue with the story in Andromeda, there would be no need to invalidate any of ME3's endings. But if you return to the milky Way after Andromeda and none of the endings have had any effect, that's not invalidating them? So it's not the today you don't want them to invalidate, it's the tomorrow. Glad to know where you draw the line. . If they remake the Trilogy, it probably (note: PROBABLY) won't interest me to buy it... even if I'm playing on a new system by that time Don't like it, don't buy it. It won't be the same game, but it won't be a new one either. Instead, it will be an altered rehash of an old idea. People expecting a resurrection of old Bioware's Shepard, I think, will not be happy with new Bioware's Shepard and new Bioware's take on the old story anyways... and it will probably come across as Bioware checking off a list of fan "complaints" with the OT... all the while trying to adhere to the fans' strict obsession about the old lore as constructed by people who left Bioware years and years ago. So you are completely disconnected from the lore and the universe. So you admit that you just don't care. I'm exceedingly more interested in finding out where they want to take Andromeda... a new story in a new galaxy set 600 years farther into the future and with infinite possibilities. Which put the franchise on ice and makes sure there will be no continuation to that plot. As I said before, you can HOPE for whatever you like. It's still just HOPE. Sound business practice my eye... and the situation is still "wait to see what actually happens." You misunderstand hope with sound business practice. You don't recognize that you have no control over the practices of a business you don't run. You're a consumer. all you can do is HOPE they produce a product YOU like... buy it if they do and don't buy it if they don't. You can keep trying to run a company you're not even an employee of, and you'll probably just be ignored. All you've been doing here is wasting your time arguing with people My preference remains the same... a continuation of the story in Andormeda; and much to your ire, I'm not the only one here or out there that still wants that.
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Lots of old games continue to be played on new hardware. Like it or not, that's what a remaster is... and the people who answered Gamble's tweet that I saw were asking for a remaster of the Trilogy AND the continuation of the Andromeda story. The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones EA has already said not gonna happen. It's not going to generate enough sales, so EA isn't interested in it. " We're a company that is focused on delivering for the future," he told IGN. "I was asked a question once [about remasters and I said] it's just not what we do. We've got incredibly talented dev studios around the world who are focused on delivering new IP, new experiences, [and] more and more live services." It's either live service from here on out, or bust. If Andromeda were a live service, EA may have stuck with it. This article was made before the release of Mass Effect Andromeda. Circumstances have changed since then.
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Post by Buckeldemon on Nov 17, 2019 14:27:09 GMT
The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones. Egads! I hope not. Games like ME are meant to be played on big ass screens so you can see all the details. (and tell who is who) I don't even have an idea how a game with shooter-style combat is even mean to be played on a smartphone. On the other hand, I still got an eight-year old mobile with sweet tiny buttons. Is 21.5 inch sufficient? I admit that I mixed up Garrus and a random Marauder in the heat of some ME3 battles.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 14:35:14 GMT
Egads! I hope not. Games like ME are meant to be played on big ass screens so you can see all the details. (and tell who is who) I don't even have an idea how a game with shooter-style combat is even mean to be played on a smartphone. On the other hand, I still got an eight-year old mobile with sweet tiny buttons. Is 21.5 inch sufficient? I admit that I mixed up Garrus and a random Marauder in the heat of some ME3 battles. Well, I worked in the oil field back in the day when mobile phones were the size of a relatively large suitcase (bigger than a briefcase) and computers encompassed entire rooms. The size of the device has little to do with visual fidelity these days. Phone remote signal to a big screen and a controller or even a VR device... perhaps even the size of a contact lens? Why not?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2019 17:54:32 GMT
Egads! I hope not. Games like ME are meant to be played on big ass screens so you can see all the details. (and tell who is who) I don't even have an idea how a game with shooter-style combat is even mean to be played on a smartphone. On the other hand, I still got an eight-year old mobile with sweet tiny buttons. Is 21.5 inch sufficient? I admit that I mixed up Garrus and a random Marauder in the heat of some ME3 battles. sounsd about right. I took a shot a t Ashley during one of the side missions in ME3 recently in my last playthrough as I mistook her for a Cerberus soldier. But that was because she was in cover and I could only see the top of her head from my vantage point. So it's easily done.
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Post by melbella on Nov 17, 2019 20:03:51 GMT
I took a shot a t Ashley during one of the side missions in ME3 recently in my last playthrough as I mistook her for a Cerberus soldier.
I'd love to see that conversation back on the Normandy:
Ashley: You shot at me! Shepard: Well, you looked like a Cerberus mook. Shoulda stuck with the pink armor. Ashley:
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2019 20:22:32 GMT
I took a shot a t Ashley during one of the side missions in ME3 recently in my last playthrough as I mistook her for a Cerberus soldier.
I'd love to see that conversation back on the Normandy:
Ashley: You shot at me! Shepard: Well, you looked like a Cerberus mook. Shoulda stuck with the pink armor. Ashley:
I had no trouble with shooting my companions in the MET... Most of the time I just parked them behind the line of fire and did all the shooting myself. They didn't need to even be able to see the enemy for me to use their powers and they were generally god awful with their weapon damage anyways (and I simply spec'd them for power usage to maximize that). Whoever was in front of me was an enemy... simple as that. Fallout 4 at least puts the odd person in the line of fire that you can still kill but you don't actually want to do that. Mass Effect never lets you accidentally shoot and kill anyone who isn't an enemy.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 17, 2019 22:45:11 GMT
I'd love to see that conversation back on the Normandy:
Ashley: You shot at me! Shepard: Well, you looked like a Cerberus mook. Shoulda stuck with the pink armor. Ashley:
I had no trouble with shooting my companions in the MET... Most of the time I just parked them behind the line of fire and did all the shooting myself. They didn't need to even be able to see the enemy for me to use their powers and they were generally god awful with their weapon damage anyways (and I simply spec'd them for power usage to maximize that). Whoever was in front of me was an enemy... simple as that. Fallout 4 at least puts the odd person in the line of fire that you can still kill but you don't actually want to do that. Mass Effect never lets you accidentally shoot and kill anyone who isn't an enemy. Yeah I don' tusually have troubletelling them apart I usually jus tlet them do their own thing. It's only becaus ethe top of the Cerbreus helmets aer black and the fact that Ashley has black hair is what threw me off. But as you asy thankfyully it doesn't punish you for hittin gyour own companion. They sometimes yell out friendly fire if you accidentally hit them but that's about it.
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I had no trouble with shooting my companions in the MET... Most of the time I just parked them behind the line of fire and did all the shooting myself. They didn't need to even be able to see the enemy for me to use their powers and they were generally god awful with their weapon damage anyways (and I simply spec'd them for power usage to maximize that). Whoever was in front of me was an enemy... simple as that. Fallout 4 at least puts the odd person in the line of fire that you can still kill but you don't actually want to do that. Mass Effect never lets you accidentally shoot and kill anyone who isn't an enemy. Yeah I don' tusually have troubletelling them apart I usually jus tlet them do their own thing. It's only becaus ethe top of the Cerbreus helmets aer black and the fact that Ashley has black hair is what threw me off. But as you asy thankfyully it doesn't punish you for hittin gyour own companion. They sometimes yell out friendly fire if you accidentally hit them but that's about it. Thinking of Jacob's "Get me off your damn scope." Lol. Sometimes I wished I could actually shoot him, though. Miranda also liked to jump into the line of fire. I almost never let them do their own thing... used too much medigel reviving them and in ME2 using medi-gel resulted in fewer credits. By the end of the game, of course, credits were plentiful enough; but I always wanted to accumulate them as early as possible so I could purchase specific upgrades before doing the Horizon Mission.
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Yeah I don' tusually have troubletelling them apart I usually jus tlet them do their own thing. It's only becaus ethe top of the Cerbreus helmets aer black and the fact that Ashley has black hair is what threw me off. But as you asy thankfyully it doesn't punish you for hittin gyour own companion. They sometimes yell out friendly fire if you accidentally hit them but that's about it. Thinking of Jacob's "Get me off your damn scope." Lol. Sometimes I wished I could actually shoot him, though. Miranda also liked to jump into the line of fire. I almost never let them do their own thing... used too much medigel reviving them and in ME2 using medi-gel resulted in fewer credits. By the end of the game, of course, credits were plentiful enough; but I always wanted to accumulate them as early as possible so I could purchase specific upgrades before doing the Horizon Mission. Yeah I find I have pleny tenough resources even if they go down anyway given ther is plenty of medigel to pick up all ovre the place so even if you do end up having t ouse like 2 or 3 applications of medigel like sometimes I find I have to on the tougher missoins like asy Garrus recruitmment mission you can easily get it back.
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Post by melbella on Nov 18, 2019 0:18:29 GMT
By the end of the game, of course, credits were plentiful enough; but I always wanted to accumulate them as early as possible so I could purchase specific upgrades before doing the Horizon Mission. It's always irritated me that you couldn't sell resources for credits in ME2. Even 0.25 or 0.10 credits per resource unit would make the early game much more affordable. You're already limited on what upgrades are available early on; why make it so hard to afford what you actually have access to?
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Nov 18, 2019 3:17:02 GMT
By the end of the game, of course, credits were plentiful enough; but I always wanted to accumulate them as early as possible so I could purchase specific upgrades before doing the Horizon Mission. It's always irritated me that you couldn't sell resources for credits in ME2. Even 0.25 or 0.10 credits per resource unit would make the early game much more affordable. You're already limited on what upgrades are available early on; why make it so hard to afford what you actually have access to? For replayability I think given when you go in on a 2nd and 3rd playthrough and it remembers you've alerad ybeaten it with a Shep you get t ostart out with more resoirces to get those upgrades. O fcourse it's jus tspeculation on my part but it's the only explanation I can think of that explains how the game works.
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Post by dazk on Nov 18, 2019 22:21:22 GMT
The day might come where we'll be playing the OT on our phones. Egads! I hope not. Games like ME are meant to be played on big ass screens so you can see all the details. (and tell who is who) Wish I could double "Like" this!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2019 22:59:29 GMT
It's always irritated me that you couldn't sell resources for credits in ME2. Even 0.25 or 0.10 credits per resource unit would make the early game much more affordable. You're already limited on what upgrades are available early on; why make it so hard to afford what you actually have access to? For replayability I think given when you go in on a 2nd and 3rd playthrough and it remembers you've alerad ybeaten it with a Shep you get t ostart out with more resoirces to get those upgrades. O fcourse it's jus tspeculation on my part but it's the only explanation I can think of that explains how the game works. Sure. I think more people play ME2 insanity with ME1 import characters than ME2 re-imports because the early going seems easier when the enemies are not fully leveled already.
Saving on medigel is part of my system and I have my credits budgeted that I can get all the mods I want as early as possible. As I said, I find the NPC's are generally pretty ineffective with their weapons and I find telling them to stay in cover behind the line of fire works well because I can still use all their powers. The only mission where I really can't use that strategy is the collector ship... and I have my places where I move them to cover at particular moments so they seldom go down on that mission now as well. One thing about the OT, enemy spawns and movements are very predictable playthrough to playthrough.
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