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Post by Beerfish on Nov 4, 2016 21:26:47 GMT
But sci fi is most often all about doing just that. It's easy to create plausible rationale. People might not like it but the old stand bye of 'we found this new tech buried on mars' is as plausible as anything else when breaking our present rules. Bad sci-fi might do that; good sci-fi should never just throw out its own science on a whim, and new discoveries that might change the way the universe is understood is not the same as "breaking rules". I won't disagree with that to some extent but in most cases they have already totally shattered the rules of the universe in the first place (ie faster than light travel) what I will say is that in 9 out of 10 of the people I see crowing about space magic this is not the case at all. It is often some minor nit pick that can't possibly be!
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 21:27:28 GMT
Lee Kaburis @lkaburis I'm getting that tingling feeling again! ;-)
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 21:27:54 GMT
Jason Richardson jason_Eldred3 more days until #N7Day #MEAndromeda
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Post by goishen on Nov 4, 2016 21:29:55 GMT
But if you make too realistic then it turns from SciFi piece into a character piece, where by the characters have to have some interesting story to tell. It's one or the other. Either you break the laws of physics or you break the humdrumness of being shipboard for months or years.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 4, 2016 21:30:48 GMT
Bad sci-fi might do that; good sci-fi should never just throw out its own science on a whim, and new discoveries that might change the way the universe is understood is not the same as "breaking rules". I won't disagree with that to some extent but in most cases they have already totally shattered the rules of the universe in the first place (ie faster than light travel) what I will say is that in 9 out of 10 of the people I see crowing about space magic this is not the case at all. It is often some minor nit pick that can't possibly be! That's the only rule of the universe that was broken though, and that is the point. It is what would happen if we had an exotic material that manipulates mass, which allows FTL travel. Every other law is intact, at least in ME1. ME2 got ridiculous in parts, but they tried to fix it with ME3.
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Post by goishen on Nov 4, 2016 21:32:35 GMT
I won't disagree with that to some extent but in most cases they have already totally shattered the rules of the universe in the first place (ie faster than light travel) what I will say is that in 9 out of 10 of the people I see crowing about space magic this is not the case at all. It is often some minor nit pick that can't possibly be! That's the only rule of the universe that was broken though, and that is the point. It is what would happen if we had an exotic material that allowed FTL travel. Every other law is intact, at least in ME1. ME2 got ridiculous in parts, but they tried to fix it with ME3. Well, ehh. What about Jack, Miranda, Liara all being outside without space suits? I won't argue that they're all breaking the laws of physics. But for different reasons.
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 4, 2016 21:33:20 GMT
This is how I've been viewing this whole marketing approach. I think it's pretty fun to view from an in-world viewpoint, and clever if that's how they intended it. Realistically, even with ME tech, there's no way that thing is safely entering atmo. How much eezo would that require? What effect would it have on the planet? That city would likely be within its envelope. It's silly. It makes for a cool image, though. Plus, as we said above, the writers can change the tech-rules if they want or need to do so. I don't think they will, much, but they can. I believe the only force that we have to overcome there is gravity. Or the only major force. I'm not stating that it's a small force, either. But we're still just moving mass. Or I could say hauling .... mass. It's not just moving it, it's holding it together. Even the SR2 wasn't supposed to enter atmo, according to the Codex, if I recall correctly. (We see how long that lasted. One more point for @upupaway95 's idea of scaling back the Codex.) Big vessels are assembled in space because they'll "break under their own weight", as it's generally phrased. The various parts would be acted upon individually by gravity, pulling the vessel apart, weld by weld. A mass effect field could negate the effect, but the amount of eezo required for that monster would be insane. This is why huge warships don't ever enter atmo. I always laugh when Kaidan says, "They're going to hit the dreadnought," or whatever in the ME3 prologue. That is not a dreadnought. Then, you'd need to consider what, if any, would be the effects of having that vast mass effect field within that planet's atmosphere. That could be devastatingly disruptive. Anyway, it's fun to discuss, but not a big deal. As I said, the pic doesn't bug me much. It's a promotional image. I like to view it as a recruitment poster.
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 21:33:27 GMT
Masah Kalugin @masah_K The Andromeda Initiative is currently seeking recruits. Join here: bit.ly/2eFBBMe #WeAreEA
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Post by Ravenous Bear on Nov 4, 2016 21:34:08 GMT
Every time I read "coffee beer" ... I see "coffee bear" ...
And have visions of Ravenous Bear tooling around BioWare with a coffee cart ...
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To bring back to BSNuf. Keep dreamin'.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 4, 2016 21:34:11 GMT
That's the only rule of the universe that was broken though, and that is the point. It is what would happen if we had an exotic material that allowed FTL travel. Every other law is intact, at least in ME1. ME2 got ridiculous in parts, but they tried to fix it with ME3. Well, ehh. What about Jack, Miranda, Liara all being outside without space suits? I won't argue that they're all breaking the laws of physics. But for different reasons. As I said, ME2 got ridiculous in parts. Going into hostile environments without fully sealed suits yet nothing happening is an example.
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Post by Beerfish on Nov 4, 2016 21:36:11 GMT
Well, ehh. What about Jack, Miranda, Liara all being outside without space suits? I won't argue that they're all breaking the laws of physics. But for different reasons. As I said, ME2 got ridiculous in parts. Going into hostile environments without fully sealed suits yet nothing happening is an example. Guess they weren't that hostile then.
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Post by deadgoon on Nov 4, 2016 21:37:04 GMT
C'mon folks put the handbags away tis a shame to get sidelined over stuff like this.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 4, 2016 21:37:38 GMT
As I said, ME2 got ridiculous in parts. Going into hostile environments without fully sealed suits yet nothing happening is an example. Guess they weren't that hostile then. The vacuum of space is hostile. An atmosphere of chlorine is hostile. There were literally over a dozen cases where they would have died if not wearing fully sealed suits.
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 21:38:19 GMT
Hayley @hayli_Flo @gamblemike why is the N7 female? I thought the only N7 in Andromeda was Daddy Ryder? Michael Gamble @gamblemike @hayli_Flo Guess you'll have to wait and see
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 21:40:53 GMT
Mac Walters Retweeted GlitchGurl ✨ 🚀 🎮 🍕 @glitchgurl @biofanofficial @macwalterslives #N7Day #masseffectandromeda #masseffect
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Post by themikefest on Nov 4, 2016 21:41:07 GMT
Fabrice Condominas @faburisu 3 days... themikefest themikefest1 day. football weekend. excellent
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Post by goishen on Nov 4, 2016 21:43:04 GMT
Hayley @hayli_Flo @gamblemike why is the N7 female? I thought the only N7 in Andromeda was Daddy Ryder? Michael Gamble @gamblemike @hayli_Flo Guess you'll have to wait and see Mah theory is as follows : And we're finally gonna see if it's correct in about 5 months, 'cause I can guarantee you that we won't know in three days. N7 on the woman is Ryder, and we're finally gonna learn what it means to become an N7, and we're finally gonna be able to make up some rules on what it means to become an N7. Because there is no N7 program up there. Addendum : We're gonna be able to level up our squadmates through the ranks of the N program, 1-6. In other words, send them on more missions, the more experience they get.
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Post by bshep on Nov 4, 2016 21:45:50 GMT
I think you are reading to much into it goishen. It's probably just a countdown.
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Post by Solas on Nov 4, 2016 21:51:00 GMT
Look, I'm doing work tomorrow, just so that I can be here for N7 Day. Be here with either my Miranda tee on or my N7 sweat shirt on (even though it's too blazing hot). I got N7 day and the day after off work :'D new depths of sadness lmao
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Post by Element Zero on Nov 4, 2016 21:51:15 GMT
Hayley @hayli_Flo @gamblemike why is the N7 female? I thought the only N7 in Andromeda was Daddy Ryder? Michael Gamble @gamblemike @hayli_Flo Guess you'll have to wait and see Mah theory is as follows : And we're finally gonna see if it's correct in about 5 months, 'cause I can guarantee you that we won't know in three days. N7 on the woman is Ryder, and we're finally gonna learn what it means to become an N7, and we're finally gonna be able to make up some rules on what it means to become an N7. Because there is no N7 program up there. Addendum : We're gonna be able to level up our squadmates through the ranks of the N program, 1-6. In other words, send them on more missions, the more experience they get. I'm not into the "leveling up my squadmates" bit, but I agree that the nature of what defines an N7 could change in Andromeda. I have mixed feelings about that. Whatever they do, I hope it's a good story.
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 4, 2016 21:52:37 GMT
I'd prefer Ryder not become a N7.
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 21:56:18 GMT
Liam liamous Changes are on the horizon! It's going to be an exciting next few months!
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Post by SofaJockey on Nov 4, 2016 22:00:25 GMT
This may be my favorite gif of the day. I tidied away a minor disagreement so as to keep this friendly thread rolling. No-one got banned or warned, please be nice to each other. Thanks to those trying to calm it down and pinging a 'report'.
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Post by Lady Sif on Nov 4, 2016 22:07:33 GMT
Shay Pomeroy @shaypomeroy When it's only a weekend away from #N7Day! #FridayFeeling
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Post by Hanako Ikezawa on Nov 4, 2016 22:09:58 GMT
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