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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 10, 2016 22:40:48 GMT
Chaos bed vestiage? Black serpant? Black flame? Boulder heave? Youre telling me none of these Pyromancies are worth a damn? Yes, that is what I'm saying. Even to enemies who resist fire, the sheer burst from Great Chaos Fireball is enough to justify using it over anything else. Then you would be wrong, enemies who are resistent to fire would in many cases take more damage from Black flame and boulder heave because they deal dark and physical damage reapectively.Great Chaos fireball only does slightly more damage than Chaos bed Vestiage and thats dependent on you hitting an enemy with a fireball and them then standing in the lava that's left. In PVE you wont always get away with that, in PVP you definitely wont. Chaos Bed Vestiage has a larger aoe and higher upfront damage when not factoring the lava pool. Black serpant is great for doing pyro combos and hits multiple enemies. Boulder heave has rediculous guard-break to it. The watchdogs of farron can be stagger-locked by Boulder heave. Pyromancies arent simply spamming Great Chaos Fireball...There's a lot more to them. If you just spam Great Chaos fireball in PVP you will get timed and wrecked by any half decent player
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Post by o Ventus on Aug 10, 2016 23:36:52 GMT
Yes, that is what I'm saying. Even to enemies who resist fire, the sheer burst from Great Chaos Fireball is enough to justify using it over anything else. Then you would be wrong, enemies who are resistent to fire would in many cases take more damage from Black flame and boulder heave because they deal dark and physical damage reapectively.Great Chaos fireball only does slightly more damage than Chaos bed Vestiage and thats dependent on you hitting an enemy with a fireball and them then standing in the lava that's left. In PVE you wont always get away with that, in PVP you definitely wont. Chaos Bed Vestiage has a larger aoe and higher upfront damage when not factoring the lava pool. Black serpant is great for doing pyro combos and hits multiple enemies. Boulder heave has rediculous guard-break to it. The watchdogs of farron can be stagger-locked by Boulder heave. Pyromancies arent simply spamming Great Chaos Fireball...There's a lot more to them. If you just spam Great Chaos fireball in PVP you will get timed and wrecked by any half decent player It's a good thing I never mentioned PvP then, now is it? I couldn't give a f**k about Souls PvP even if you payed me, I hate it. Boulder Heave takes 37 weeks to cast, the boulder travels nearly as slowly, and the damage it deals is pitiful in comparison to GCF. And, if you hit an enemy with the Fireball, they will 99.9999% of the time take the lava damage as well because of stagger. Literally, the ONLY time you would ever want to use a dark Pyromancy is when an enemy is resistant to fire, but then you can just wack them with your melee weapon (which you can either infuse with a gem or use some kind of resin to give it an elemental effect) and deal just as much damage (probably even more in a shorter amount of time), since the Serpent Pyromancy has crap damage to begin with and still has a fairly long cast time like most of the Pyromancies in DS3. Even then, few enemies in DS3 are resistant to fire. Off the top of my head, there's the Demons in Undead Settlement and Catacombs (who are both optional), the Old Demon King (who is also optional), the demonic mook enemies in the Smouldering Lake (I forget their names), the final boss, and the fire variant of those slug monsters that drop from ceilings and eat you (I forget their names too). There are FAR more enemies who are either neutral or weak to fire to justify using any other Pyromancies when your melee weapon works just as well, if not better, and won't make you use up more Ashen Flasks, leaving you to take more regular Estus Flask doses. So, the only enemy that you HAVE TO fight in order to complete the game that is resistant to fire is the Soul of Cinder.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 11, 2016 0:09:41 GMT
Then you would be wrong, enemies who are resistent to fire would in many cases take more damage from Black flame and boulder heave because they deal dark and physical damage reapectively.Great Chaos fireball only does slightly more damage than Chaos bed Vestiage and thats dependent on you hitting an enemy with a fireball and them then standing in the lava that's left. In PVE you wont always get away with that, in PVP you definitely wont. Chaos Bed Vestiage has a larger aoe and higher upfront damage when not factoring the lava pool. Black serpant is great for doing pyro combos and hits multiple enemies. Boulder heave has rediculous guard-break to it. The watchdogs of farron can be stagger-locked by Boulder heave. Pyromancies arent simply spamming Great Chaos Fireball...There's a lot more to them. If you just spam Great Chaos fireball in PVP you will get timed and wrecked by any half decent player It's a good thing I never mentioned PvP then, now is it? I couldn't give a f**k about Souls PvP even if you payed me, I hate it. Boulder Heave takes 37 weeks to cast, the boulder travels nearly as slowly, and the damage it deals is pitiful in comparison to GCF. And, if you hit an enemy with the Fireball, they will 99.9999% of the time take the lava damage as well because of stagger. Literally, the ONLY time you would ever want to use a dark Pyromancy is when an enemy is resistant to fire, but then you can just wack them with your melee weapon (which you can either infuse with a gem or use some kind of resin to give it an elemental effect) and deal just as much damage (probably even more in a shorter amount of time), since the Serpent Pyromancy has crap damage to begin with and still has a fairly long cast time like most of the Pyromancies in DS3. Even then, few enemies in DS3 are resistant to fire. Off the top of my head, there's the Demons in Undead Settlement and Catacombs (who are both optional), the Old Demon King (who is also optional), the demonic mook enemies in the Smouldering Lake (I forget their names), the final boss, and the fire variant of those slug monsters that drop form ceilings and eat you (I forget their names too). There are FAR more enemies who are either neutral or weak to fire to justify using any other Pyromancies when your melee weapon works just as well, if not better, and won't make you use up more Ashen Flasks, leaving you to take more regular Estus Flask doses. "Ehh, the only Pyromancy really worth a crap in DS3 is Great Chaos Fireball for its damage and splash, but it takes 3 years to cast, you move slow as balls when casting, and it flies all of 13 feet before plopping on the ground like a Magikarp." You're comment was generic which is why I mentioned PVP. Boulder Heave deals huge stagger damage. It also has a second hit to it once the initial boulder hits the ground. This thing will consistently stagger or even knock over lothric/black/silver knights. Chaos fireball wont. The Sulyvahn beast, Gargoyle, Dark wraith, Winged knight, Abyss watchers, Lothric will often dodge the the lava damage, that's just the few enemies and bosses I can think of from the top of my head. Lol at your statement about black pyromancies...The damage of black flame is no joke and you might not be aware of this but black pyromanices also consume more of the enemies stamina so there very good for shielded enemies...Like the Cathedral knights and silver/black knights who appear later in the game. I can do well over 500 damage with a single cast of black flame, there are not many melee weapons that could deal that kind of damage in a shorter amount of time even if they were resined or infused. There are more enemies than the ones you have listed that are resistant to fire (gargoyles and the giant crabs are other examples off the top of my head). Black Serpent is a utility power, it lets you chain pyromanices (this is especially useful in pvp where you can cast Black Serpent, followed by Great Chaos Fireball or Chaos Bed vestige etc.) It sounds like you have done a single playthrough with pyromancies and it sounds like you haven't really given the other pyromanices much of a chance. On the higher difficulties NG++ and up great chaos fireball spam wont be nearly as effective).
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Post by o Ventus on Aug 11, 2016 2:01:32 GMT
It's a good thing I never mentioned PvP then, now is it? I couldn't give a f**k about Souls PvP even if you payed me, I hate it. Boulder Heave takes 37 weeks to cast, the boulder travels nearly as slowly, and the damage it deals is pitiful in comparison to GCF. And, if you hit an enemy with the Fireball, they will 99.9999% of the time take the lava damage as well because of stagger. Literally, the ONLY time you would ever want to use a dark Pyromancy is when an enemy is resistant to fire, but then you can just wack them with your melee weapon (which you can either infuse with a gem or use some kind of resin to give it an elemental effect) and deal just as much damage (probably even more in a shorter amount of time), since the Serpent Pyromancy has crap damage to begin with and still has a fairly long cast time like most of the Pyromancies in DS3. Even then, few enemies in DS3 are resistant to fire. Off the top of my head, there's the Demons in Undead Settlement and Catacombs (who are both optional), the Old Demon King (who is also optional), the demonic mook enemies in the Smouldering Lake (I forget their names), the final boss, and the fire variant of those slug monsters that drop form ceilings and eat you (I forget their names too). There are FAR more enemies who are either neutral or weak to fire to justify using any other Pyromancies when your melee weapon works just as well, if not better, and won't make you use up more Ashen Flasks, leaving you to take more regular Estus Flask doses. "Ehh, the only Pyromancy really worth a crap in DS3 is Great Chaos Fireball for its damage and splash, but it takes 3 years to cast, you move slow as balls when casting, and it flies all of 13 feet before plopping on the ground like a Magikarp." You're comment was generic which is why I mentioned PVP. Boulder Heave deals huge stagger damage. It also has a second hit to it once the initial boulder hits the ground. This thing will consistently stagger or even knock over lothric/black/silver knights. Chaos fireball wont. The Sulyvahn beast, Gargoyle, Dark wraith, Winged knight, Abyss watchers, Lothric will often dodge the the lava damage, that's just the few enemies and bosses I can think of from the top of my head. Lol at your statement about black pyromancies...The damage of black flame is no joke and you might not be aware of this but black pyromanices also consume more of the enemies stamina so there very good for shielded enemies...Like the Cathedral knights and silver/black knights who appear later in the game. I can do well over 500 damage with a single cast of black flame, there are not many melee weapons that could deal that kind of damage in a shorter amount of time even if they were resined or infused. There are more enemies than the ones you have listed that are resistant to fire (gargoyles and the giant crabs are other examples off the top of my head). Black Serpent is a utility power, it lets you chain pyromanices (this is especially useful in pvp where you can cast Black Serpent, followed by Great Chaos Fireball or Chaos Bed vestige etc.) It sounds like you have done a single playthrough with pyromancies and it sounds like you haven't really given the other pyromanices much of a chance. On the higher difficulties NG++ and up great chaos fireball spam wont be nearly as effective). I have a Knight on NG+7 and a Pyromancer on NG+3 or 4, I don't remember which, who have both used every Pyromancy in the game other than the poison/toxic clouds and Iron Flesh. Chaos Fireball most certainly DOES stagger knight enemies. My Pyromancer character especially is familiar with this, because GCF is the most common Pyromancy I use for him, and every Black and Silver Knight I've fought across all of my playthrough with him gets stunlocked to death due to repeated casts. Also, I said the Serpent did crap damage, not the Black Flame. I forgot about the Gargoyles and their fire resistance, I'll concede them. I never bother casting any Pyromancies on the Cathedral Knights, I just sidestep them and backstab them, followed by beating their faces in when they recover. It takes all of 2 seconds to kill them and you use no FP. I also wield a Dark Sword and keep a Saint-tree Bellvine on me, so I tend to keep Lightning Blade up when I'm not throwing out fireballs, giving me the 2 broadest damage types covered. With a +10 Pyromancy Flame, the Swamp and Witch rings, and a reasonable amount of Intelligence/Faith, GCF will always outdamage a dark Pyromancy unless the enemy you're hitting has fire resistance. You can hit for 500 damage with a Black Flame all you want, I'll be hitting for 700 with GCF and an extra 150 from the lava. We already established that I don't care about PvP, so continuing to bring that up won't do anyone any good. On my Pyromancer, GCF spam has gotten me through just about every boss so far (with the last boss I've killed being Dancer, through normal progression) other than the Greatwood and Wolnir. I skipped the Old Demon King for this run because I just wanted to be done with it as fast as I could, but GCF would not have done much for him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 5:28:15 GMT
Anyone play Dark Souls 3 on PC with keyboard and mouse? If so, how are the controls, movement, combat, etc. I found DAI to be not so good with kb&m, I got used to it, but don't want to go through that shite again if I don't have to. I played DS3 for a little bit on the keyboard, after one of my controllers broke, and didn't much care for it. Combat and movement are really awkward. The camera feels massively over-sensitive to me even when mouse sensitivity is lowered. There also seemed to be very slight input lag, though it wasn't quite as bad as I've experienced in the older souls games. Overall, it's playable on kb&m but the experience is much, much better with a controller. With that said, though, I find DS3 on kb&m to be a lot better than DAI.
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Thank you techno.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 11, 2016 6:51:34 GMT
"Ehh, the only Pyromancy really worth a crap in DS3 is Great Chaos Fireball for its damage and splash, but it takes 3 years to cast, you move slow as balls when casting, and it flies all of 13 feet before plopping on the ground like a Magikarp." You're comment was generic which is why I mentioned PVP. Boulder Heave deals huge stagger damage. It also has a second hit to it once the initial boulder hits the ground. This thing will consistently stagger or even knock over lothric/black/silver knights. Chaos fireball wont. The Sulyvahn beast, Gargoyle, Dark wraith, Winged knight, Abyss watchers, Lothric will often dodge the the lava damage, that's just the few enemies and bosses I can think of from the top of my head. Lol at your statement about black pyromancies...The damage of black flame is no joke and you might not be aware of this but black pyromanices also consume more of the enemies stamina so there very good for shielded enemies...Like the Cathedral knights and silver/black knights who appear later in the game. I can do well over 500 damage with a single cast of black flame, there are not many melee weapons that could deal that kind of damage in a shorter amount of time even if they were resined or infused. There are more enemies than the ones you have listed that are resistant to fire (gargoyles and the giant crabs are other examples off the top of my head). Black Serpent is a utility power, it lets you chain pyromanices (this is especially useful in pvp where you can cast Black Serpent, followed by Great Chaos Fireball or Chaos Bed vestige etc.) It sounds like you have done a single playthrough with pyromancies and it sounds like you haven't really given the other pyromanices much of a chance. On the higher difficulties NG++ and up great chaos fireball spam wont be nearly as effective). I have a Knight on NG+7 and a Pyromancer on NG+3 or 4, I don't remember which, who have both used every Pyromancy in the game other than the poison/toxic clouds and Iron Flesh. Chaos Fireball most certainly DOES stagger knight enemies. My Pyromancer character especially is familiar with this, because GCF is the most common Pyromancy I use for him, and every Black and Silver Knight I've fought across all of my playthrough with him gets stunlocked to death due to repeated casts. Also, I said the Serpent did crap damage, not the Black Flame. I forgot about the Gargoyles and their fire resistance, I'll concede them. I never bother casting any Pyromancies on the Cathedral Knights, I just sidestep them and backstab them, followed by beating their faces in when they recover. It takes all of 2 seconds to kill them and you use no FP. I also wield a Dark Sword and keep a Saint-tree Bellvine on me, so I tend to keep Lightning Blade up when I'm not throwing out fireballs, giving me the 2 broadest damage types covered. With a +10 Pyromancy Flame, the Swamp and Witch rings, and a reasonable amount of Intelligence/Faith, GCF will always outdamage a dark Pyromancy unless the enemy you're hitting has fire resistance. You can hit for 500 damage with a Black Flame all you want, I'll be hitting for 700 with GCF and an extra 150 from the lava. We already established that I don't care about PvP, so continuing to bring that up won't do anyone any good. On my Pyromancer, GCF spam has gotten me through just about every boss so far (with the last boss I've killed being Dancer, through normal progression) other than the Greatwood and Wolnir. I skipped the Old Demon King for this run because I just wanted to be done with it as fast as I could, but GCF would not have done much for him. Wether you care about PVP or not is irrelivent. If you make a general statement thats plain wrong you should expect to get called out on it. PVP is a major part of the game, just because you dont like it doesnt mean it's any less so...That 500+ damage from black flame is against enemies that are resistent to fire, thats my whole point - you wont be doing 700 damage against enemies resistent to fire. And btw that's over 500 damage without the dark clutch ring. I would be able to kill certain enemies far quicker with black flame than you would with Great Chaos fireball because it will outdamage agaist fire resistent enemies and importantly it can be cast much quicker. It takes you 2 seconds to kill a cathedral knight on NG+7, I would love to know the build your using? If you really think only Great Chaos Fireball is worth a damn despite the examples I gave you then your doing pyromancy wrong.
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Post by BountyhunterGER on Aug 11, 2016 12:26:25 GMT
Anyone play Dark Souls 3 on PC with keyboard and mouse? If so, how are the controls, movement, combat, etc. I found DAI to be not so good with kb&m, I got used to it, but don't want to go through that shite again if I don't have to. I played DS3 for a little bit on the keyboard, after one of my controllers broke, and didn't much care for it. Combat and movement are really awkward. The camera feels massively over-sensitive to me even when mouse sensitivity is lowered. There also seemed to be very slight input lag, though it wasn't quite as bad as I've experienced in the older souls games. Overall, it's playable on kb&m but the experience is much, much better with a controller. With that said, though, I find DS3 on kb&m to be a lot better than DAI. Funny, I never had any problems playing DAI with kb&m. In fact I can't remember any game I needed to use a controller.. except for Dark Souls. It just feels awkward as hell in DS2 and not much better in the third game. Depends on what you are used to, I guess.
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Post by o Ventus on Aug 11, 2016 17:32:08 GMT
I have a Knight on NG+7 and a Pyromancer on NG+3 or 4, I don't remember which, who have both used every Pyromancy in the game other than the poison/toxic clouds and Iron Flesh. Chaos Fireball most certainly DOES stagger knight enemies. My Pyromancer character especially is familiar with this, because GCF is the most common Pyromancy I use for him, and every Black and Silver Knight I've fought across all of my playthrough with him gets stunlocked to death due to repeated casts. Also, I said the Serpent did crap damage, not the Black Flame. I forgot about the Gargoyles and their fire resistance, I'll concede them. I never bother casting any Pyromancies on the Cathedral Knights, I just sidestep them and backstab them, followed by beating their faces in when they recover. It takes all of 2 seconds to kill them and you use no FP. I also wield a Dark Sword and keep a Saint-tree Bellvine on me, so I tend to keep Lightning Blade up when I'm not throwing out fireballs, giving me the 2 broadest damage types covered. With a +10 Pyromancy Flame, the Swamp and Witch rings, and a reasonable amount of Intelligence/Faith, GCF will always outdamage a dark Pyromancy unless the enemy you're hitting has fire resistance. You can hit for 500 damage with a Black Flame all you want, I'll be hitting for 700 with GCF and an extra 150 from the lava. We already established that I don't care about PvP, so continuing to bring that up won't do anyone any good. On my Pyromancer, GCF spam has gotten me through just about every boss so far (with the last boss I've killed being Dancer, through normal progression) other than the Greatwood and Wolnir. I skipped the Old Demon King for this run because I just wanted to be done with it as fast as I could, but GCF would not have done much for him. Wether you care about PVP or not is irrelivent. If you make a general statement thats plain wrong you should expect to get called out on it. PVP is a major part of the game, just because you dont like it doesnt mean it's any less so...That 500+ damage from black flame is against enemies that are resistent to fire, thats my whole point - you wont be doing 700 damage against enemies resistent to fire. And btw that's over 500 damage without the dark clutch ring. I would be able to kill certain enemies far quicker with black flame than you would with Great Chaos fireball because it will outdamage agaist fire resistent enemies and importantly it can be cast much quicker. It takes you 2 seconds to kill a cathedral knight on NG+7, I would love to know the build your using? If you really think only Great Chaos Fireball is worth a damn despite the examples I gave you then your doing pyromancy wrong. When I make it a point to never mention PvP and outright say that I'm not interested in PvP, what part of that translates to "Oh, but the benefits of this in PvP are...!"? Something has to be wrong with you if you honestly continue bringing that up. I'm also not sure why you keep mentioning Black Flame, when A. I never said anything was wrong with Black Flame, so I have no f**king clue what you're trying to convince me of, and B. the Pyromancy I DID criticize was the Black Serpent, which you have now seemingly forgotten about. When I get home, I'll pull up my NG+7 Knight and screenshot his build and share it here. I don't remember all of his stat distribution off the top of my head, The weapons I use for him are either a +10 Dark Sword with a Heavy Gem and Lightning Blade/Carthus Flame Arc or a +5 Dragonslayer Greataxe, I switch out the weapon I use depending on which I feel like using. My primary damage stat is Strength, hence the Heavy Gem in my Dark Sword.
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Post by Teabaggin Krogan on Aug 11, 2016 18:11:58 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? Me personally, I've always been a huge fan of ultra greatswords and greathammers. It's a bit tricky to get the hang of those against other players especially ones with faster movesets like katanas and straight swords but they're hugely rewarding once you know how to trick your opponents and can play unlocked. Also ultra weapon duels are some of the most fun things you can do in game!
As for my favorite weapons in all the games, I'd say the Moonlight greatsword, the Ivory king Ultra greatsword from ds2, Fume UGS from ds2 & 3, Burial blade and the Cannon from Bloodborne.
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Post by Shepenwepet on Aug 11, 2016 18:36:14 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? In Dark Souls, I used nothing but Quelaag's Furysword once I had it. In Dark Souls 2, I don't remember. Even going through the weapon list isn't ringing any bells. In Dark Souls 3, while not my preferred weapon, the one I used the most was the Crystal Sage Rapier. I spent about a dozen hours here. I loved the look of the Irithyll Straight Sword, and probably broke about seventy Pyromancy laws by using it. I never told the pyromancy teachers. In Bloodborne, I stuck with the Saw Cleaver until pretty much the end of the game. Nothing else felt right. I wanted to like the Tonitrus, but I was so accustomed to the saw cleaver's moveset that I just couldn't make it work. I eventually had to ditch the saw cleaver as it just wasn't cutting it anymore, in favor of Ludwig's Holy Blade. I used the greatsword form and loathed every second of it. Can't say it didn't carve shit up, though.
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Post by Carcharoth on Aug 11, 2016 18:53:56 GMT
Dark Souls: Black knight ultra great sword, zweihander, claymore
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Dark Souls 3: Black knight ultra great sword, cathedral knight ultra greatsword, onislayer greatbow
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Post by o Ventus on Aug 11, 2016 19:20:08 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? Generally my favorite types are anything with "Great-" as a prefix, even if they're generally not very practical for combat. My favorite in DS1 would be the Greatsword of Artorias, for lore reasons. I haven't played DS2 or Bloodborne, so I can't say for those. Dark Souls 3, however, my favorite weapon would be.... Hmm.... A tie between Lorian's Greatsword or the Firelink Greatsword. Smough's Greathammer is another good one, but it's just WAAAAAAAAY to heavy and slow for me to use.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 11, 2016 19:44:25 GMT
Wether you care about PVP or not is irrelivent. If you make a general statement thats plain wrong you should expect to get called out on it. PVP is a major part of the game, just because you dont like it doesnt mean it's any less so...That 500+ damage from black flame is against enemies that are resistent to fire, thats my whole point - you wont be doing 700 damage against enemies resistent to fire. And btw that's over 500 damage without the dark clutch ring. I would be able to kill certain enemies far quicker with black flame than you would with Great Chaos fireball because it will outdamage agaist fire resistent enemies and importantly it can be cast much quicker. It takes you 2 seconds to kill a cathedral knight on NG+7, I would love to know the build your using? If you really think only Great Chaos Fireball is worth a damn despite the examples I gave you then your doing pyromancy wrong. When I make it a point to never mention PvP and outright say that I'm not interested in PvP, what part of that translates to "Oh, but the benefits of this in PvP are...!"? Something has to be wrong with you if you honestly continue bringing that up. I'm also not sure why you keep mentioning Black Flame, when A. I never said anything was wrong with Black Flame, so I have no f**king clue what you're trying to convince me of, and B. the Pyromancy I DID criticize was the Black Serpent, which you have now seemingly forgotten about. When I get home, I'll pull up my NG+7 Knight and screenshot his build and share it here. I don't remember all of his stat distribution off the top of my head, The weapons I use for him are either a +10 Dark Sword with a Heavy Gem and Lightning Blade/Carthus Flame Arc or a +5 Dragonslayer Greataxe, I switch out the weapon I use depending on which I feel like using. My primary damage stat is Strength, hence the Heavy Gem in my Dark Sword. I mentioned PVP because certain powers are far more important for PVP like black snake. And I mentioned PVP because you made a generic and quite frankly moronic statement in saying GCF was the only pyromancy worth using. PVP is a MAJOR part of all souls games, you cant make a generic statement like you did then say you were only talking about PVE. Instead of admiting you were wrong you continue to argue and dig the hole you are in deeper. I have given you several scenarios where certain powers were better than GCF, I have give you examples of enemies who were resistent to fire, therefore it isnt always the best solution. Thats like saying you can complete the game spamming just R1. Sure it's possible but that doesnt mean it's the most efficient way to play the game, it's certainly wouldnt be the most fun. The again you use the Dark sword so R1 spam might be your thing. And I mentioned black flame because you were adament that GCF would always out-damage it, the example I used with the gargoyles shows otherwise. You wont be getting anywhere near the 700+ damage you keep mentioning. You keep trying to deflect the examplea I give rather than address them. I look forward to seeing you kill Cathedral knights in 2 seconds with your dark sword on NG+7
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Post by o Ventus on Aug 11, 2016 20:02:31 GMT
When I make it a point to never mention PvP and outright say that I'm not interested in PvP, what part of that translates to "Oh, but the benefits of this in PvP are...!"? Something has to be wrong with you if you honestly continue bringing that up. I'm also not sure why you keep mentioning Black Flame, when A. I never said anything was wrong with Black Flame, so I have no f**king clue what you're trying to convince me of, and B. the Pyromancy I DID criticize was the Black Serpent, which you have now seemingly forgotten about. When I get home, I'll pull up my NG+7 Knight and screenshot his build and share it here. I don't remember all of his stat distribution off the top of my head, The weapons I use for him are either a +10 Dark Sword with a Heavy Gem and Lightning Blade/Carthus Flame Arc or a +5 Dragonslayer Greataxe, I switch out the weapon I use depending on which I feel like using. My primary damage stat is Strength, hence the Heavy Gem in my Dark Sword. I mentioned PVP because certain powers are far more important for PVP like black snake. And I mentioned PVP because you made a generic and quite frankly moronic statement in saying GCF was the only pyromancy worth using. PVP is a MAJOR part of all souls games, you cant make a generic statement like you did then say you were only talking about PVE. Instead of admiting you were wrong you continue to argue and dig the hole you are in deeper. I have given you several scenarios where certain powers were better than GCF, I have give you examples of enemies who were resistent to fire, therefore it isnt always the best solution. Thats like saying you can complete the game spamming just R1. Sure it's possible but that doesnt mean it's the most efficient way to play the game, it's certainly wouldnt be the most fun. The again you use the Dark sword so R1 spam might be your thing. And I mentioned black flame because you were adament that GCF would always out-damage it, the example I used with the gargoyles shows otherwise. You wont be getting anywhere near the 700+ damage you keep mentioning. You keep trying to deflect the examplea I give rather than address them. I look forward to seeing you kill Cathedral knights in 2 seconds with your dark sword on NG+7 I don't care how generic you think my statement was, I've made it clear on more than 1 occasion that I'm not talking about PvP. Go to a surgeon and have him poke at your brain, clearly something is wrong with you since you keep f**king talking about it in spite of me saying that I do not, have not, and will not give any mind to PvP. Right, and outside of those particular scenarios (the number of areas in which they are encountered can be counted on 1 hand), when will you ever need to use Black Flame over GCF? I don't care whether you find anything "fun", I never concerned myself with that either. You know nothing of how I play other than what I've told you in this exchange so far. If you're going to assume something, the least you can do is be correct. Or, moreover, be vaguely in the general area of "correct". You can f**k right off if you're going to be one of those people who don't address points and instead try to make limp-dick attacks on my character. I already said that I hadn't thought of the gargoyles and conceded that point to you. Do you want me to give you a medal too? Why do you continue to bring this up? Mate, you tell me that I'm deflecting, but you go out of your way to mention things that I explicitly say that I'm not interested in talking about, and then continue to talk about those things as if they have any merit in this discussion. I don't know if you're actually retarded or if you're being willfully ignorant, but either way you can f**king quit at any time.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 11, 2016 20:10:08 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? In Dark Souls, I used nothing but Quelaag's Furysword once I had it. In Dark Souls 2, I don't remember. Even going through the weapon list isn't ringing any bells. In Dark Souls 3, while not my preferred weapon, the one I used the most was the Crystal Sage Rapier. I spent about a dozen hours here. I loved the look of the Irithyll Straight Sword, and probably broke about seventy Pyromancy laws by using it. I never told the pyromancy teachers. In Bloodborne, I stuck with the Saw Cleaver until pretty much the end of the game. Nothing else felt right. I wanted to like the Tonitrus, but I was so accustomed to the saw cleaver's moveset that I just couldn't make it work. I eventually had to ditch the saw cleaver as it just wasn't cutting it anymore, in favor of Ludwig's Holy Blade. I used the greatsword form and loathed every second of it. Can't say it didn't carve shit up, though. Demon souls: Blueblood sword, it looked amazing, did a ton of damage and was very fast. DS1: Silver knight spear, great range and speed (the silver knight stuff in general was very good). DS2: Not sure maybe manslayer or darkdrift Bloodborne: Really tricky one, either simons bowblade or Rakuyo. I also have a special place in my heart for the threaded cane. DS3: Carthus Curved sword hands down. Fast, good range and excellent damage. It also looks really nice. As you can tell I prefer playing skill/Dex builds. I've never been a fan of giant washboard swords and large weapons in general
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Post by Arijon van Goyen on Aug 11, 2016 20:10:55 GMT
Two early-mid Dark Souls 3 video you may like to watch:
^ Also there are my favorite weapons.
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Post by Debaser on Aug 11, 2016 20:13:47 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? Me personally, I've always been a huge fan of ultra greatswords and greathammers. It's a bit tricky to get the hang of those against other players especially ones with faster movesets like katanas and straight swords but they're hugely rewarding once you know how to trick your opponents and can play unlocked. Also ultra weapon duels are some of the most fun things you can do in game! As for my favorite weapons in all the games, I'd say the Moonlight greatsword, the Ivory king Ultra greatsword from ds2, Fume UGS from ds2 & 3, Burial blade and the Cannon from Bloodborne. The most fun I've had in DS3 was around SL 60 with a Witch's Locks build. I kept a Rapier in the off hand for parrying and pokes. I used a bit of pyro as well. I have a sunbro Yennefer cosplay that I melt bosses with sorcery too. DS2 I can barely remember. I think I stuck to a Claymore and light pyromancy throughout. DS1 I did all kinds of stuff. I had the most fun with the Iatio its moveset was a blast to use.
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Post by ALTBOULI on Aug 11, 2016 20:19:14 GMT
I mentioned PVP because certain powers are far more important for PVP like black snake. And I mentioned PVP because you made a generic and quite frankly moronic statement in saying GCF was the only pyromancy worth using. PVP is a MAJOR part of all souls games, you cant make a generic statement like you did then say you were only talking about PVE. Instead of admiting you were wrong you continue to argue and dig the hole you are in deeper. I have given you several scenarios where certain powers were better than GCF, I have give you examples of enemies who were resistent to fire, therefore it isnt always the best solution. Thats like saying you can complete the game spamming just R1. Sure it's possible but that doesnt mean it's the most efficient way to play the game, it's certainly wouldnt be the most fun. The again you use the Dark sword so R1 spam might be your thing. And I mentioned black flame because you were adament that GCF would always out-damage it, the example I used with the gargoyles shows otherwise. You wont be getting anywhere near the 700+ damage you keep mentioning. You keep trying to deflect the examplea I give rather than address them. I look forward to seeing you kill Cathedral knights in 2 seconds with your dark sword on NG+7 I don't care how generic you think my statement was, I've made it clear on more than 1 occasion that I'm not talking about PvP. Go to a surgeon and have him poke at your brain, clearly something is wrong with you since you keep f**king talking about it in spite of me saying that I do not, have not, and will not give any mind to PvP. Right, and outside of those particular scenarios (the number of areas in which they are encountered can be counted on 1 hand), when will you ever need to use Black Flame over GCF? I don't care whether you find anything "fun", I never concerned myself with that either. You know nothing of how I play other than what I've told you in this exchange so far. If you're going to assume something, the least you can do is be correct. Or, moreover, be vaguely in the general area of "correct". You can f**k right off if you're going to be one of those people who don't address points and instead try to make limp-dick attacks on my character. I already said that I hadn't thought of the gargoyles and conceded that point to you. Do you want me to give you a medal too? Why do you continue to bring this up? Mate, you tell me that I'm deflecting, but you go out of your way to mention things that I explicitly say that I'm not interested in talking about, and then continue to talk about those things as if they have any merit in this discussion. I don't know if you're actually retarded or if you're being willfully ignorant, but either way you can f**king quit at any time. Why would I quit when I know your wrong, throw insults around all you like, that does nothing to help your argument. You refuse to adress my points because you know your wrong, not my problem if you dont know how to the play game you could have just admited you were wrong and I would have left it...But you continue to argue when I have given you clear examples. I dont know if you're actually retarded or if you're being willfully ignorant. Btw i'm still waiting to see that build that can take out Cathedral knights in 2 seconds with just a dark sword. Give us proof
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Post by BountyhunterGER on Aug 11, 2016 20:56:22 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? Rapiers, spears, katanas, bows, anything dex-related really. I can't stand slow weapons. They just aren't as fun to play for me.
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Post by Pearl on Aug 11, 2016 21:24:01 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? Me personally, I've always been a huge fan of ultra greatswords and greathammers. It's a bit tricky to get the hang of those against other players especially ones with faster movesets like katanas and straight swords but they're hugely rewarding once you know how to trick your opponents and can play unlocked. Also ultra weapon duels are some of the most fun things you can do in game! As for my favorite weapons in all the games, I'd say the Moonlight greatsword, the Ivory king Ultra greatsword from ds2, Fume UGS from ds2 & 3, Burial blade and the Cannon from Bloodborne. DeS I'm a bit fuzzy on as it's been years, but I have fond memories of the Blind. DS1 has to be Balder Side Sword and Quelaag's Furysword. DS2, probably Longsword. That moveset DS3, I enjoy oppressing things with my privileged straight swords. BB, then it'd be the Stake Driver, Church Pick, and Holy Moonlight Sword.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2016 21:49:29 GMT
What are you people's favorite weapons and weapon types btw? Greatswords, Curved Greatswords, Ultra Greatswords. The bigger and more physically impossible to wield the better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 18:04:28 GMT
Aldrich is an obnoxious boss and I think the best way to avoid his phase 2 arrow volley junk is to eject my PC from my window.
Just felt the need to vent.
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