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Post by fylimar on Mar 16, 2017 17:04:17 GMT
Yes it is. I played about 45 mins of SP then decided to check out the MP. Been playing it for like.. *squint* four hours or so. On the MEA CC, it's not like DAI where players have more control. Faces are preset and minor adjustments is available. On the game itself, it starts off well and so far, the gameplay is good. I'm likely to buy this on launch day, no pre-order. What? So weird, they restrict you to a race AND a face. I'd be so completely disappointed if DA went that route. I had hoped they would keep same level of customization and just keep adding story difference to the races. *Reminds self that the teams for each series are very different* DA is safe, DA is safe That is exactly my opinion about the ME games. With Andromeda they had the chance to give us aliens, but we are still stuck with boring humans - and not even cumstomizable? That's a bummer. I, too, think, that DA is safe. It is a different game style alltogether. While there are some things, I like about ME (mostly the races, the background story of the world and the overall feeling of Babylon 5 ), I prefer, how things are handled in DA. And it's good, that those two franchises are so different in the gameplay department. From reading the board here, people either prefer the one or the other. @domi Don't worry, I think, you have a very good way to express negative comments. They are constructive and insightful and I like to read that. Being a fan of a game doesn't mean necessarily, that you have to like everything about it
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Post by phoray on Mar 16, 2017 17:10:54 GMT
@domi
What that choice COULD have been, was GW Alistair vs your Hawke.
Considering I had romanced and adored Alistair and loved my Hawke, that would have tore my little gamer heart in two.
As it was, I had incidentally imported my Queen Fereldan married to King Alistair world state first, before my GW Alistair with GW city elf import. My Hawke was stressing the Grey Warden importance really hardcore, which felt like the game was telling me something. And after ten minutes, I saved Stroud. But then Varric's grief scene destroyed me, and I reloaded. Killed Stroud.
So you can see where it could have been heart wrenching. And even with a love for Hawke, playing Blind, you could have been concerned about the GW
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Post by pensieve on Mar 16, 2017 17:17:53 GMT
@domi I like reading about your experiences with DAI. I'm a huge fan of the game myself, but I like reading your criticism! (And to be honest, I think it would be a good idea to have the Warden take the place of Stroud and having to sacrifice either the Warden or Hawke. For me that would be easy BYE HAWKE) I reached Skyhold with Kvothe and spent a few hours (or so it feels) catching up with everyone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:22:21 GMT
Loaded up DAI to mess with body meshes since I had an epiphany while vacuuming. It wasn't as fun as I thought, but ended up getting a Miss Lady-dwarf to Haven because I liked her smile. And the blood splatters on her face made pretty little hearts. My favorite thing about dwarven females. It was a short session, but it was fun to slap demons in the face. With axes swords.
Edit: As a preparation for an assault at Post your Hawke thread I loaded up DA2 to take pictures of Nevena's face. Loaded up a save named Mercy Intensifies (digital pats on the back if you can guess which quest was in progress) and talk to one of the npcs. She sasses him for a while, then says "I would not like to see this become a massacre." Aveline is standing next to her, turns her head at her and stares for like 5 seconds at her, smiles the smallest of smiles then looks back at the npc and the conversation goes on. It was an oddly rewarding moment. So there. A feather in your cap DA2, you earned it. Still didn't get a good shot since the scene was way to dark, but it was a nice moment.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 17:26:09 GMT
@domi What that choice COULD have been, was GW Alistair vs your Hawke. Considering I had romanced and adored Alistair and loved my Hawke, that would have tore my little gamer heart in two. As it was, I had incidentally imported my Queen Fereldan married to King Alistair world state first, before my GW Alistair with GW city elf import. My Hawke was stressing the Grey Warden importance really hardcore, which felt like the game was telling me something. And after ten minutes, I saved Stroud. But then Varric's grief scene destroyed me, and I reloaded. Killed Stroud. So you can see where it could have been heart wrenching. And even with a love for Hawke, playing Blind, you could have been concerned about the GW Alistair would not have given me a pause, as my playthrough left me with an understandable coolness towards Alistair (I've played an Elf who was given a cold shoulder because she can't have babies & Hell hath no fury, even if it's a bunch of pixels that giveth you the scorn...). However, to extend this thought, if my Warden have had replaced Clarel's placeholder I would not have minded that, but I can see how that specific outcome was fairly unlikely in most games, and potentially the same resentment than you feel towards Bio's treatment of Revan in SWTOR. But, it would have been interesting head canon, F!Warden mage and Alistair as GW. And, actually, Alistair doing something definitive for once, and Warden being wrong and needing saving. It would have a good, strong death for her. So I both wished (again) that they have taken risks for the sake of the stronger impact, but I understand that that would have been impractical. But Warden-as-Stroud is a win-win (save for the objections of the voiceless protagonist lobby), with practically no drawbacks. She is still a hero that saves the day. I am uncertain why it was hard for you to chose between Hawke and Stroud. Maybe if I had a Hawke that romanced Isabela and killed Anders and Fenris, or some such masochistic PT....
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Post by Catilina on Mar 16, 2017 17:49:13 GMT
@domi What that choice COULD have been, was GW Alistair vs your Hawke.
Considering I had romanced and adored Alistair and loved my Hawke, that would have tore my little gamer heart in two.
As it was, I had incidentally imported my Queen Fereldan married to King Alistair world state first, before my GW Alistair with GW city elf import. My Hawke was stressing the Grey Warden importance really hardcore, which felt like the game was telling me something. And after ten minutes, I saved Stroud. But then Varric's grief scene destroyed me, and I reloaded. Killed Stroud.
So you can see where it could have been heart wrenching. And even with a love for Hawke, playing Blind, you could have been concerned about the GW Alistair would not have given me a pause, as my playthrough left me with an understandable coolness towards Alistair (I've played an Elf who was given a cold shoulder because she can't have babies).
However, to extend this thought, if my Warden have had replaced Clarel's placeholder I would not have minded that, but I can see how that specific outcome was fairly unlikely in most games, and potentially the same resentment than you feel towards Bio's treatment of Revan in SWTOR. But, it would have been interesting head canon, F!Warden mage and Alistair as GW. And, actually, Alistair doing something definitive for once, and Warden being wrong and needing saving. So I both wished (again) that they have taken risks for the sake of the stronger impact, but I understand that that would have been impractical.
But Warden-as-Stroud is a win-win (save for the objections of the voiceless protagonist lobby).
I am uncertain why it was hard for you to chose between Hawke and Stroud. Maybe if I had a Hawke that romanced Isabela and killed Anders and Fenris, or some such masochistic PT.... There are no logical reason to leave Hawke in the Fade, except, if Hawke lost everything, and wants to die. Healthy, don't hear voices, so perfect to inform the Wardens in Weisshaupt. Hawke's not responsible for Corypheus, but if s/he is, this creature in the Fade just a big bad spider. (Okay, if anyone have Alistair with Warden, the choice can be difficult.) But I know, there are people, who love tragedy, and because s/he have sister/brother/lover, who wait for him/her, they want to imagine how these miserable characters suffer... (Ashley and Alenko: I love Alenko, and not very much love Asley, so shit, but I left Asley – so: wasn't a too hard choice, but I dislike such a decisions.)
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 16, 2017 18:03:26 GMT
Going from DA2's combat to DAI's combat it's always hard. I know in a couple of hours I'll be fine, but I'm still in the "I hate it" phase. Also, my first hours playing DAI never feel like really playing. Yesterdar I spent a lot of time in the CC, and ok, that's always fun, though I still can manage to make an Inquisitor who looks good and elfy. Can have one or the other, but not both I'll keep trying
But after that, and taking strenght from those first dialogues in Haven with Varric and Solas, what I did it's basically get ready to actually start playing today, running around Haven like a locust, gathering, well, everything there's to gather tedious, so tedious, but I already got two good staves, one for me and one for Solas, and good armor for Casandra, and I just need to pick some drakestone to get a staff with fire damage and some onyx to get a staff with ice damage, and I'll probably be good to go until I get to a region with tier 3 materials to get better equipment for the last part of the game. If, I get enough materials without suffering too much to make good weapons for the rest of the companions, fine, but otherwise loot will do. So, I'm hoping I can start to really play today, doing all of Corporal Vale quests, trying to get as much power as I can in the Hinterlands, so I can focus more on the story after the first travel to Val Royeaux. And, now that I'm on ps4, I thought I could share a picture, here's my girl! She's friendlier than it looks like there though Also, she used used to look very different But then I decided to make all my DA girls look the same, and took Hawke, with her Targaryen blonde hair and her zombie-like white eyes, as reference And now my Ryder is going to look a little like my warden used to And, just because I'm such a huge fangirl I'm leaving here also a picture o her first conversation with Solas , bonus points for Solas laughing, which doesn't happen a lot I thought the female elves in DAO were quite pretty and not just humans with pointy ears. The developers, apparently, felt they needed to change the elves in DA2 to differentiate them from humans. As some have pointed out, the result in DA2 was something similar to the blue aliens of Avatar - but shorter. I thought Merrill was the only cute elf in DA2, though for some reason, I seem to remember her skin having a slightly greenish hue. Then in Inquisition, they decided to back away from that approach. And the result? Elves are now runty and not particularly attractive. Briala is the only one I think is kind of pretty...and that, under a half mask! So if your elf Inquisitor is pretty, she's not particularly elfy! lol Speaking of which, both versions of your elf Inquisitors are quite nifty! And being on PS4, you at least don't have to worry about pulling your hair out like some mod-happy PC gamers who shall remain nameless!
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Post by pensieve on Mar 16, 2017 19:21:37 GMT
I just got clan Lavellan killed :sob:
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Post by phoray on Mar 16, 2017 19:33:57 GMT
I just got clan Lavellan killed :sob: So easy to do
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Post by Catilina on Mar 16, 2017 19:36:54 GMT
I just got clan Lavellan killed :sob: This is one of the stupidest missions in the whole series... unbelievable!
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Post by phoray on Mar 16, 2017 19:42:40 GMT
@domi Well, for my first Pt, I was an elf who kept Alistair a squishy Grey Warden and there was no breakup. He didn't want to be King and I listened. Went online and aaw what I narrowly avoided. Second PT, I went on a power trip and became Queen with Hardened Alistair = No break ups. So, I was never scorned. After two Alistair PTs, I did DA2, and then arbitrarily imported a King Alistair world state. I was very fond of the Grey Wardens, having played as one for near 200 hours, and dated both Grey Warden Alistair and Anders. So I entered DAI with a very rosy view of them- even dated Blackwall to keep my GREY Warden dating thing going (hahahahaha ha!) Anyway. My Hawke was stressing the Grey Warden importance really hardcore, which felt like the game was telling me something. Stroud wasn't a bad sort but seemed to be the only one with his head on straight. I really thought it would harm the GWs if I let Stroud die. With that belief, I sacrificed Hawke. But couldn't handle Varric and reloaded. NOW I know the choice is irrelevant, but I didn't in my first PT. But it had nothing to do with causing a tragedy for Hawke's lover, as Catilina stated for a possible reason. It was actually concern about the Order.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2017 19:53:19 GMT
Leaving Hawke in the fade? I did that once. It was male Hawke. That's because I never played as a male because of the voice. What makes it even funnier is that Loghain ends up survivng the fade. How cool is that? I don't see a reason for leaving one of them in the fade. Have Alistair/Stroud/Loghain head to grey warden headquarters and Hawke can come back to skyhold. Hawke could even show up to fight Corypheus at the end in a support role like at Adamant. I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 19:54:17 GMT
So, getting clan Lavellan killed.... Is it the Inquisitor's fault or the advisors?
I ask, because I saved the clan in my two Lavellan PTs.
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Post by pensieve on Mar 16, 2017 19:57:23 GMT
So, getting clan Lavellan killed.... Is it the Inquisitor's fault or the advisors? I ask, because I saved the clan in my two Lavellan PTs. It happens when you pick Josephine. Not too sure if Leliana and Cullen both rescue the clan but at least one of them does because I've never gotten this result before.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 20:17:22 GMT
So, getting clan Lavellan killed.... Is it the Inquisitor's fault or the advisors? I ask, because I saved the clan in my two Lavellan PTs. It happens when you pick Josephine. Not too sure if Leliana and Cullen both rescue the clan but at least one of them does because I've never gotten this result before. It's a mixture. I think all the War Table quests connecting to the clan can lead to it's death, or them loosing enough clan members to not want to contact the Inquisition again. And all the adviser have an opportunity to give bad advice that ends up leading to the clan dying. So this time it was Josie, but on another part of the quest it might have been Cullen or Leliana.
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Post by fylimar on Mar 16, 2017 20:22:37 GMT
@domi Well, for my first Pt, I was an elf who kept Alistair a squishy Grey Warden and there was no breakup. He didn't want to be King and I listened. Went online and aaw what I narrowly avoided. Second PT, I went on a power trip and became Queen with Hardened Alistair = No break ups. So, I was never scorned. After two Alistair PTs, I did DA2, and then arbitrarily imported a King Alistair world state. I was very fond of the Grey Wardens, having played as one for near 200 hours, and dated both Grey Warden Alistair and Anders. So I entered DAI with a very rosy view of them- even dated Blackwall to keep my GREY Warden dating thing going (hahahahaha ha!) Anyway. My Hawke was stressing the Grey Warden importance really hardcore, which felt like the game was telling me something. Stroud wasn't a bad sort but seemed to be the only one with his head on straight. I really thought it would harm the GWs if I let Stroud die. With that belief, I sacrificed Hawke. But couldn't handle Varric and reloaded. NOW I know the choice is irrelevant, but I didn't in my first PT. But it had nothing to do with causing a tragedy for Hawke's lover, as Catilina stated for a possible reason. It was actually concern about the Order. While I could never sacrifice one of my Hawkes, I have a hard time leaving Stroud in teh fade - he is just so nice and honourable. I normally play with Loghain or Alistair as the GW, because I'm not attached to eitehr of them, I can leave them in the Fade without a glance back, but Stroud is surprisingly hard.
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Post by fylimar on Mar 16, 2017 20:23:53 GMT
And being on PS4, you at least don't have to worry about pulling your hair out like some mod-happy PC gamers who shall remain nameless! 'looking completely innocent'
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Post by Catilina on Mar 16, 2017 20:48:55 GMT
Okay guys, you inspired me: so tonight I go for my Hawke in the Fade and send him to home (okay just in Weisshaupt). The time has come to perform the deferred execution of Loghain.
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Post by themikefest on Mar 16, 2017 21:06:36 GMT
While I could never sacrifice one of my Hawkes, I have a hard time leaving Stroud in teh fade - he is just so nice and honourable. I normally play with Loghain or Alistair as the GW, because I'm not attached to eitehr of them, I can leave them in the Fade without a glance back, but Stroud is surprisingly hard. Ha. You might be in the minority. At least for leaving Alistair in the fade
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 16, 2017 22:04:44 GMT
Leaving Hawke in the fade? I did that once. It was male Hawke. That's because I never played as a male because of the voice. What makes it even funnier is that Loghain ends up survivng the fade. How cool is that? I don't see a reason for leaving one of them in the fade. Have Alistair/Stroud/Loghain head to grey warden headquarters and Hawke can come back to skyhold. Hawke could even show up to fight Corypheus at the end in a support role like at Adamant. I don't know. Huh? What are you saying? If you leave Loghain in the Fade, he claws his way out?
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Post by fylimar on Mar 16, 2017 22:07:21 GMT
While I could never sacrifice one of my Hawkes, I have a hard time leaving Stroud in teh fade - he is just so nice and honourable. I normally play with Loghain or Alistair as the GW, because I'm not attached to eitehr of them, I can leave them in the Fade without a glance back, but Stroud is surprisingly hard. Ha. You might be in the minority. At least for leaving Alistair in the fade I guess so, but I never was a huge fan of Alistair tbh.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 22:10:51 GMT
I left Alistair in the fade once in my Solasmance run. Didn't regret it. He was sour about the male Hero of Ferelden taking all of the glory in beating the archdemon and dying.
The second time I had Ali as the Warden ally was in my last run with Alex. She saved him, because the last thing anyone wanted was the lady Hero of Ferelden storming into Skyhold and creating mayhem over her lover.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 16, 2017 22:19:32 GMT
Regarding clan Lavellan: Selecting Josie in the first mission is a bad move because she tends to rely on nobles and the Duke? of Wycomme is a Venatori sympathizer. As to Hawke versus the Warden, whoever it is, you do have to remember that Inky really knows neither of them. Inky likely believes that the GWs are a necessary tool to fight off the Blight, especially given recent history. Therefore, who better to lead the GWs of Orlais than the one Warden who stood up to Clarel and her mad decision? Solas hates the Warden but never says what the alternative would be in the event of a Blight. What's the case for saving Hawke other than he/she is Varric's friend?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2017 22:25:53 GMT
Regarding clan Lavellan: Selecting Josie in the first mission is a bad move because she tends to rely on nobles and the Duke? of Wycomme is a Venatori sympathizer. As to Hawke versus the Warden, whoever it is, you do have to remember that Inky really knows neither of them. Inky likely believes that the GWs are a necessary tool to fight off the Blight, especially given recent history. Therefore, who better to lead the GWs of Orlais than the one Warden who stood up to Clarel and her mad decision? Solas hates the Warden but never says what the alternative would be in the event of a Blight. What's the case for saving Hawke other than he/she is Varric's friend? Your pc has an option to say he read Varric's books so s/he could be meeting his/her role-model or super-star like hero in Hawke. And if you are a Mage, Hawke is a hero of resistance and all that.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 16, 2017 22:31:46 GMT
Regarding clan Lavellan: Selecting Josie in the first mission is a bad move because she tends to rely on nobles and the Duke? of Wycomme is a Venatori sympathizer. As to Hawke versus the Warden, whoever it is, you do have to remember that Inky really knows neither of them. Inky likely believes that the GWs are a necessary tool to fight off the Blight, especially given recent history. Therefore, who better to lead the GWs of Orlais than the one Warden who stood up to Clarel and her mad decision? Solas hates the Warden but never says what the alternative would be in the event of a Blight. What's the case for saving Hawke other than he/she is Varric's friend? As @domi said, and: the Wardens hears the false Calling. even Stroud/Loghain/Alistair. Hawke's more sober (if we can use this word related by Hawke...)
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