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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 1:21:03 GMT
my timing sucks. i was planing on finished my Reaver Warrior in time for Andromeda, but i finished 3 days ago. So i started a DD Rogue , running around the Hinterlands . also recruited Vivienne and Sarah. I'll try to do IYHSB asap. Funny, i stopped playing DAI for months if not over a year and now on my 3 rd run in about 2 months and i kind of rediscovered the game. Everytime I finish one of the trilogy I'm like, "that was the best of the three!" They each have strengths and weaknesses.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 1:39:43 GMT
I feel mollified because I got to deny Morrigan at least something. Heh. Here are a few screenshots from the palace... Figure 1. A Few Unforgettably Embarrassing moments at the ball in the Winter Palace: Sin dancing; Team Inquisition in Uniforms; Sin discovering a guy in Empress' bed. I went around for a while gathering a wyvern heart for Vivienne's mercy kiss; meeting future Mrs. Varric; and, of course, the famous Solas' quest :) I mixed up the comps a little for it, rotating Vivienne, Varric, Solas and Iron Bull & got a couple of new banters between the mages. Figure 2. Companionable moments: Party-goers; Hard drinking; and Hi, Bianca! Finally, I stepped into the Emprise de Lion, and turned around. Didn't like the snow.... Instead, I played the What Pride Had Wrought quest. That was my favorite landscape so far along with the Western Approach. I started on Level 16, and levelled to 17, and the mobs were fairly challenging. The Temple itself was pretty neat, and yay, finally the good, old-fashioned grandiose Elves. I felt that my team was rather nice for comment. I had Cassandra, Dorian and Solas along. Apparently, I managed to do enough content in the game to get a totally Lawful Good resolution with making peace with Calpernia... ...except I laughed and laughed... because she straightened up and spoke how she is going to go back to set Tevinter to the right path of freeing the slaves and eliminating corruption... ...to fight savage Qunari... ...to which Sin's loyal lover sagely nodded that Tevinter needs a leader or ten just like that. I guess, he loves Sin so much he stopped noticing the extra two feet of height and the horns. I was heartened by being able to make peace with the Cool Elves, and then I had fun making Sin torment Morrigan with offering the Well to everyone, and when both Solas and Dorian refused (Dorian's refusal was hilarious) and then saying: "well, I guess it will have to be me." Figure 3. Sin Fell Meets the well. I had a few strange moments in Skyhold upon my return. First, Josephine got Cullen naked, then Solas talked to Sin how Dalish raised him well into an honorable... (I guess romance hack makes Solas believe that every protagonist is a female Elf :) ) Figure 4. Cullen does not know how that's all gonna end... Finally, I had a sad talk with Dorian. Inspired by Calpernia's shining example, he is finally ready to challenge the world order in Tevinter. Which is awesome, but not a path you walk with a Qunari by your side. I guess, it is a foreshadowing of a soft good-buy. It's a good future for him.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 19, 2017 1:48:59 GMT
deadlydwarf Have never done it except before Adamant. I don't think it changes based on timeline. I think the best order for Blackwall romance is Winter Palace then Adamant though. Because I like to think reconnection with the Wardens and what they stand for is what pushes him over the edge to turn himself in for his past. Seems kind of random if done after Winter. Then, of, course skip the horrible story and have sexy times in the barn I rate Blackwall as my #2 romance. Cullen<-Blackwall then Cass and Solas are my only other two I've done to completion but they really aren't for me. Cass has best repeatable kiss scene of the four I've tried this far. You haven't done Sera or Josephine? Josephine's is a nice rom-com affair! You don't get to see what she looks like under all the "ruffles" however. The Sera romance is okay, but the culminating sequence is a bit crude. (Also, the Inky in a relationship with Sera kind of ends up being a mother to her which is an odd dynamic.) As to the others, I really like the Solas-mance for its dramatic punch, connection to lore, etc. Cullen also very good. Cassandra's was very well-written, but I find her hairstyle so bad as to be distracting. I haven't done IB or Dorian. Let's see how Blackwall turns out...
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 19, 2017 2:04:11 GMT
domi I'm glad your PT is looking up! I knew the Well of Morrigan's Sorrow situation would console you somewhat. And keep in mind, Sin has the snazziest pad in Skyhold while Morrigan has the Gazebo! (A slight improvement over the Korcari Wilds, but nothing to write home about.)
If ever you do another DAI PT, you should go as female elf so you can see the Solas-mance through. (And there are mods to make a female elf more athletic and muscular so she isn't too much of a lolly.)
Oh, what was your solution to the Winter Palace triangle?
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 19, 2017 2:28:56 GMT
Probably weird to you, but I really like Morrigan's romance, and her reaction when Inquisitor asked her about the Warden. The one thing that annoys me about this part is that it's impossible to get the line on their parting on friendly terms without a direct import from a DAO PT. Making the decision in DAK always renders it as a not amiable parting. Although I didn't like Morrigan's attitude in DAO, the wardens I played were supportive.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 19, 2017 2:35:22 GMT
Probably weird to you, but I really like Morrigan's romance, and her reaction when Inquisitor asked her about the Warden. The one thing that annoys me about this part is that it's impossible to get the line on their parting on friendly terms without a direct import from a DAO PT. Making the decision in DAK always renders it as a not amiable parting. Although I didn't like Morrigan's attitude in DAO, the wardens I played were supportive. I do not supported her so much (except the DR), I convinced her (kindly but firmly) and gave her gifts. My Wardens were very suggestive and persuasive. And did Witch Hunt. I haven't problem with the Keep.
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Post by xassantex on Mar 19, 2017 2:37:29 GMT
I feel mollified because I got to deny Morrigan at least something. Heh. Here are a few screenshots from the palace... i'm curious to know how your Qunari Inquisitor will behave in Trespasser ?
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Post by Catilina on Mar 19, 2017 2:50:57 GMT
I feel mollified because I got to deny Morrigan at least something. Heh. Here are a few screenshots from the palace... i'm curious to know how your Qunari Inquisitor will behave in Trespasser ? Is there are a different with qunari? I have finished the Trespasser with Trevelyan, Lavellan and Adaar but I felt nothing special. Specifically, what do you think?
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 5:38:29 GMT
I feel mollified because I got to deny Morrigan at least something. Heh. I'mma pull a themikefest Excellent. Re: Dorian. Don't tell him goodbye! hold him close and tell him you love him. is important.
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 5:41:31 GMT
I rate Blackwall as my #2 romance. Cullen<-Blackwall then Cass and Solas are my only other two I've done to completion but they really aren't for me. Cass has best repeatable kiss scene of the four I've tried this far. You haven't done Sera or Josephine? Josephine's is a nice rom-com affair! You don't get to see what she looks like under all the "ruffles" however. The Sera romance is okay, but the culminating sequence is a bit crude. (Also, the Inky in a relationship with Sera kind of ends up being a mother to her which is an odd dynamic.) As to the others, I really like the Solas-mance for its dramatic punch, connection to lore, etc. Cullen also very good. Cassandra's was very well-written, but I find her hairstyle so bad as to be distracting. I haven't done IB or Dorian. Let's see how Blackwall turns out... I know, right? I've only spent nearly 400 hours on DAI playing those 4 romances, what's wrong with me? I did a Blackwall/Cullen rebound -> Solas->Blackwall 99% (IB one night stand)-> Cassandra. Plans for future are Dorian->Sera->Jose->Harding-> Episode of romance drama where I romance 4 people in a row. And never Iron Bull.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 19, 2017 5:44:28 GMT
I feel mollified because I got to deny Morrigan at least something. Heh. Here are a few screenshots from the palace... i'm curious to know how your Qunari Inquisitor will behave in Trespasser ? Keep in mind the "Qunari" Inquisitor is a Talvashoth - broken away from the Qun. (Do the Qunari ever take back repentant Talvashoth?)
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 5:50:09 GMT
i'm curious to know how your Qunari Inquisitor will behave in Trespasser ? Keep in mind the "Qunari" Inquisitor is a Talvashoth - broken away from the Qun. (Do the Qunari ever take back repentant Talvashoth?) Considering how they kill the saarbas in DA2 just for being out of sight, I'm going with no.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Mar 19, 2017 8:05:57 GMT
You haven't done Sera or Josephine? Josephine's is a nice rom-com affair! You don't get to see what she looks like under all the "ruffles" however. The Sera romance is okay, but the culminating sequence is a bit crude. (Also, the Inky in a relationship with Sera kind of ends up being a mother to her which is an odd dynamic.) As to the others, I really like the Solas-mance for its dramatic punch, connection to lore, etc. Cullen also very good. Cassandra's was very well-written, but I find her hairstyle so bad as to be distracting. I haven't done IB or Dorian. Let's see how Blackwall turns out... I know, right? I've only spent nearly 400 hours on DAI playing those 4 romances, what's wrong with me? I did a Blackwall/Cullen rebound -> Solas->Blackwall 99% (IB one night stand)-> Cassandra. Plans for future are Dorian->Sera->Jose->Harding-> Episode of romance drama where I romance 4 people in a row. And never Iron Bull. Admit it. You love being a ping-pong ball. All that zing and zang is just so ... zesty. * By the by. I like how DA devs went to the trouble of putting the end result of a clean up or a WT mission. Clean up the templars and mages in the Hinterlands, the buildings stopped burning (do you know the travesty of ESIV Oblivion has always remained stuck in my mind? ). Buiild watch towers and towers there are. Cute little buildings too. It's little touches but it does give you the feeling that you did something.
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Post by javeart on Mar 19, 2017 10:40:21 GMT
I did in your heart shall burn and then crestwood, still waters, the keep and meeting Stroud. In betweeen I spent a lot of time, like really a lot, trying to recreat Hawke's face and failing miseraby, as I usually do, which was, of course, very satisfaying Why do I keep trying? Whilethere's life there's hope, I guess Also, I've already started Solas' romance and my fangirlism is skyrocketing
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Post by themikefest on Mar 19, 2017 11:50:48 GMT
Went to Adamant. Fought grey wardens and demons. Ended up in the fade. The only problem is that I wasn't fading. Yeah. I didn't laugh either. Left Stroud behind. Bioware isn't very good at killing off characters. I saw no reason why one had to be left in the fade. Whatever.
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 11:58:07 GMT
I know, right? I've only spent nearly 400 hours on DAI playing those 4 romances, what's wrong with me? I did a Blackwall/Cullen rebound -> Solas->Blackwall 99% (IB one night stand)-> Cassandra. Plans for future are Dorian->Sera->Jose->Harding-> Episode of romance drama where I romance 4 people in a row. And never Iron Bull. Admit it. You love being a ping-pong ball. All that zing and zang is just so ... zesty.
What can I say, mikefest likes to kill as many people as possible, I like to virtually hump as many people as I can on occasion. My female Cousland slept with everyone sleep able, 3/4 romances, foursome with Isabella, and married Alistair (love version) with supporting Zevran dialogue that they'd keep boinking despite the marriage. I've been doing a DA2 version except I'll get 4/4 plus threesome with Zevran. Then the DAI version will be very careful. Iron Bull to Cassandra to Dorian to Josephine. But only after I've seen all their content.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 13:07:12 GMT
domi I'm glad your PT is looking up! I knew the Well of Morrigan's Sorrow situation would console you somewhat. And keep in mind, Sin has the snazziest pad in Skyhold while Morrigan has the Gazebo! (A slight improvement over the Korcari Wilds, but nothing to write home about.) If ever you do another DAI PT, you should go as female elf so you can see the Solas-mance through. (And there are mods to make a female elf more athletic and muscular so she isn't too much of a lolly.) Oh, what was your solution to the Winter Palace triangle? Winter Palace ended up for me with re-establishing the status quo. Celene rules, Gaspard is a Minister and Briala is an Ambassador. Even if you give the Elves muscles, they still are going to be lolis. And, I doubt that any mod changing F!Elf shape comes without boobies, making them even more loli rather than less. Both changes will clip through Solas if he kisses the PC at all after the Fade. But, more importantly, after playing with the cast, Dorian is my One True Love in this game, and I am exactly opposite to phoray heh, I am the most satisfied with a monogamous, loyal-to-the-very-end love-story with one character per game :)
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Post by fylimar on Mar 19, 2017 13:08:43 GMT
I haven't playe this weekend, just returned from a short vacation with my sister. But glad to see, this thread has so many new posts deadlydwarfI did Blackwalls Stormcoast quest after Adamant, but I don't think, it matters much, when you do it. The Blackwall romance was really nice. I might make another dwarven lady in the future to do that romance again (my current playthroughs are all kind of planned for other romances). @domi I'm so with you on the Morrigan frustration. She is the worst character since Anomen and Bastilla, BW ever came up with. The only thing, I do like about Morrigan, is Claudia Blacks voice acting and that is totally wasted on that character. I denied her the Well this time in my Riya playthrough, just to piss her off in a more direct way - I mean, no matter if she drinks or not, she is pissed off in the end, because she either didn't get what she wants or she finds out, what the price is. I just hope, that this really uninteresting character doesn't make a return again. They can bring back Flemeth in every game if they like (even in KOTOR or ME or something else), but I really don't want to see Morrigan ever again. And giving her the name of the celtic goddess of war only makes her Mary Sue level more unbearable. (Sorry for the rant, I normally don't do that, because I don't want to hurt the feelings of fans of the characters, I dislike, but this one had to get out, I guess )
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 13:15:24 GMT
@domi
It's more about what can be accomplished and also seeing if romantic switches are noticed. DAO and DA2 has in game dialogue support- Origins, you could co date and have jealousy talks. DA2 has support for a Fenris to Anders switch. I think there is also some for a Merrill to Isabella switch.
As far as I can tell, there is Zero support for any switch in DAI probably because the game tries to make you monogamous while at the same time, making it likely you'll break up. Which I consider controlling, kinda mean, and ...Not as immersive as the other two games.
But I'll have the test this theory in DAI at a much later date, as I do intend to do all the romances as monogamous first. It was just part from my RP that Mara sleep with Iron Bull because she thought she was such a bad ass. But then he tried to take it someplace weird and she was like WHOA. Shouldn't screw around Right now, it's time to save the world.
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Post by phoray on Mar 19, 2017 13:32:51 GMT
^^^
Which supports my opinion that promiscuity is a valid roleplaying opportunity that they should bring back full swing in DA4. With full support from a Ladies Establishment.
I like to think that I should just blame " Being Thedas Jesus" and that it won't be an issue next game.
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Post by xassantex on Mar 19, 2017 14:43:03 GMT
i'm curious to know how your Qunari Inquisitor will behave in Trespasser ? Is there are a different with qunari? I have finished the Trespasser with Trevelyan, Lavellan and Adaar but I felt nothing special. Specifically, what do you think? i have no idea, i was asking out of curiosity as i never play Qunari. Trespasser kind of messes up my choices in new runs now, so i only play Humans after all. Could play a dwarf i suppose but i feel funny being a midget Inquisitor . Size doesn't matter is a myth.
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Post by xassantex on Mar 19, 2017 14:44:22 GMT
i'm curious to know how your Qunari Inquisitor will behave in Trespasser ? Keep in mind the "Qunari" Inquisitor is a Talvashoth - broken away from the Qun. (Do the Qunari ever take back repentant Talvashoth?) aah, right , that. Forgot about that detail. Yay for loopholes.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Mar 19, 2017 15:03:52 GMT
Keep in mind the "Qunari" Inquisitor is a Talvashoth - broken away from the Qun. (Do the Qunari ever take back repentant Talvashoth?) aah, right , that. Forgot about that detail. Yay for loopholes. The irony is that if there's Inquisitor background you would think would refuse to recruit Iron Bull, it would be the Talvashoth/Qunari Inquisitor. He/she may have fled the Qun to avoid be reprogrammed by the Ben Hassarath.
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Post by Catilina on Mar 19, 2017 15:12:00 GMT
aah, right , that. Forgot about that detail. Yay for loopholes. The irony is that if there's Inquisitor background you would think would refuse to recruit Iron Bull, it would be the Talvashoth/Qunari Inquisitor. He/she may have fled the Qun to avoid be reprogrammed by the Ben Hassarath. Here is cleverly solved again: not the Inquisitors fled, his/her parents fled. So: s/he may be interesting about the qunari life. Not because s/he wants to accept the qun, but curiosity. As mage: for example, from some kind defiance, pride to show, that s/he's not a slave, than a qunari saarebas, and not afraid of them
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Post by javeart on Mar 19, 2017 15:52:17 GMT
So, it seems I'm going be able to play a lot today (fingers crossed), so I thought a could post something now while I eat something, and avoid another wall of text tomorrow I've been in the exalted plains, helped Solas' friend and the dalish but left the orleasian soldiers to deal with their own problems, because I have time to herd hallas but not to end a plague of walking corpses I don't care the same for everyone's problems, I have preferences, I admit it I'm sure the orlesians will manage, anyway. Then I went to the western approach, did still ruins, the keep and found out what Erimond was doing. I have to say that I love DAI accessories, there are a few that are an absolute must for my canon Lavelan, and I don't even find them particularly useful But, what can I say, I love wearing the Token of the Packmaster in the exalted plains and run around with the wolves at my side, and I only take it off once I get the Kitty's Collar, which, ok, this one is actually very useful , but would probably be put to better use with my tank, except that I love that it makes my tiny elf that wears no armour almost unkillable, because I like to think that she looks so fragile and she turns out to be super resilient I think it goes really well too from o RP point of view with a Knight Enchanter, which my Lavellan usually is, but I'm going to headcanon that as a Rift Mage her healing abilities are even better (I already headcanon that she's a healer, since I can't give her the specialization). And what goes really well with Rift Mage, again more from a RP point of view than anything, because it's a little wasted in a mage too, is the Ring of Doubt: headcanon here is that i do something like fade step almost all the time, like she's becomng more ethereal or something I should probably wear more usefull stuff, but I love these items, they're so cool, and between cool and useful I always pick cool Another thing, I've set a challenge to myself: next time I play with three mages, I really have to turn Rub Some Dirt on It on. I'm ashamed I didn't dare to do it in this pt already Considering how defensive is my standard mage build, with the amount of barrier and revival that I get with 3 of them, plus all the healing on kill from the staves and the guard from Horn of Valor, and considering it wouldn't be very hard to get armour with guard on hit too, it can't be that much trouble. I love the concept of the trials, btw, save for leaving my heart broken everything in that DLC is just perfect Also, I'm eager to se how things go with Rift Mage, I have almost no memory of the first time I tried it. And I have to admit that getting the venatori tomes wasn't asannoying as I was expecting edit: to "avoid another wall of text" I said
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