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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 16:14:57 GMT
I just played my rogue Alighiera a bit more in DA2. She stopped Anders from killing a girl and helped him coming to terms afterwards with a lot of bad jokes (really the purple dialogue options are pure gold here. It's as if Anders is reliefed that she liked him still enough to crack a joke) Afterwards a lost patrol leads to teh chantry and Sister petrice again. Funny comment from Anders: And the gang: I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party?
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2017 16:23:40 GMT
I just played my rogue Alighiera a bit more in DA2. She stopped Anders from killing a girl and helped him coming to terms afterwards with a lot of bad jokes (really the purple dialogue options are pure gold here. It's as if Anders is reliefed that she liked him still enough to crack a joke) Afterwards a lost patrol leads to teh chantry and Sister petrice again. Funny comment from Anders: And the gang: I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party? I never did it, just heard, there is a moment, when he leave Hawke and the clinic: if Hawke confront with him about Ella, and tell him to leave. I don't think, that Ella must die.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 16:30:04 GMT
I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party? I never did it, just heard, there is a moment, when he leave Hawke and the clinic: if Hawke confront with him about Ella, and tell him to leave. I don't think, that Ella must die. You can ask him to leave no matter Ella's fate nor your standing with him. You just need to choose agressive option after calming him down/confronting him. Then you get option stay/leave.
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Post by fylimar on May 14, 2017 16:38:04 GMT
I just played my rogue Alighiera a bit more in DA2. She stopped Anders from killing a girl and helped him coming to terms afterwards with a lot of bad jokes (really the purple dialogue options are pure gold here. It's as if Anders is reliefed that she liked him still enough to crack a joke) Afterwards a lost patrol leads to teh chantry and Sister petrice again. Funny comment from Anders: And the gang: I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party? I couldn't bring myself to do that, so I have no idea. But I think, you get at least a lot of rivalry for that. Edit: Rascoth was quicker and knew the answer
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 16:47:25 GMT
I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party? I couldn't bring myself to do that, so I have no idea. But I think, you get at least a lot of rivalry for that. Edit: Rascoth was quicker and knew the answer I can't confirm nor deny that I have DA2 opened in another tab, have save right before this talk and explored those possibilites in world state in which Hawke was least likely to ask him to leave, so it's logical it applies to world states in which is more likely as well
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Post by q5tyhj on May 14, 2017 17:08:11 GMT
It appears to be on a ~15 min timer, and anything that causes a loading screen (fast travelling, entering a Villa/underground area/etc) resets the timer, using a mount pauses the timer, entering the menus pauses the timer... and apparently there's also a few spots where banter can't be triggered (Winter Palace, Therinfal Redoubt, possibly the Western Approach, a few other mainly quest-specific places). Banter can be specific to any of the party members, can be related to the region you're in (Hinterlands, Storm Coast, Emerald Graves, etc.), can be quest-related- you'll have to grit your teeth through a few "oh its raining" or "oh its cold" comments that count as your banter for that period before you get to the juicy stuff. But so basically what you want to do is run around (never fast travelling, never riding a mount) with just Iron Bull and Dorian (to eliminate banter about/by someone else)... go close all the Fade Rifts in a region, for instance (it also seems/is reported that closing rifts, completing quests, and finishing fights triggers banter). Using a timer helps keep track of where you're at; its nice to know when you have only a min or two before the next banter, so you know when you'll be able to fast travel or leave or whatever. I also read conflicting things about the Inquisitor being locked into a romance with someone besides Iron Bull/Dorian either helping or being required to trigger their romance, so I locked into Cassandra romance just to be safe. Anyways, I've now gotten the first banter that supposedly sets up their romance (the "conquer" one), and a few other random flirtatious ones, so I guess so far so good. I wish I had known all this before I did everything in the Hissing Wastes, that would have been perfect for getting this done- so much empty space to run around and kill time (and no quests that require loading screens). Wow that's really helpful thanks np, good luck with it.. just goes to show that spending a few mins researching something on Google is almost always worth the effort rather than just dicking around yourself and wasting a ton of time (wish I had done it way sooner, derp)
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Post by ryderflynn on May 14, 2017 21:11:03 GMT
Okay, you guys are right - I officially hate Inquisition's CC. To be clear, most of the sliders aren't bad. There's only one real problem I have - the brows. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THE DAMN BROWS THAT PLAGUE ME. Why is it always the brows that's an issue, even in DA2? lol Well, the brows in DA2 at least looked decent and pretty, but here, they are hideous, and Googling it up, it seems like I'm not the only one who had that sentiment. Why do the brows look like they've been shaved by a six year old trying to do a makeover? And another thing - the brow colors cannot be changed, and they'll have the same color as the hair. Not a major issue if you have white hair, as it looks less distracting, those awful brows. The problem is, I couldn't go with pure white hair it makes my Inquisitor, donning sort of a "crew cut", look completely bald under the lighting. And if I switch it to a darker shade of white, the awful brows would turn black, completely, without any shades of white at all. It's also a frustration that they don't have many other options for short-hair either, as most of those short hair options are balding crew-cuts. This is what I ended up with, not completely satisfied: If you're able to, notice how her brows are arched in a way that makes her look angry. I didn't design her like that, and in the CC, her brows weren't arched like that either. But no matter how I adjusted the height or bone structure of the brows, they still ended up looking like that. It must be a glitch of some sort. Sigh. I miss playing Hawke already. Probably going to leave her as my avatar instead of this disappointment.
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Post by Rascoth on May 14, 2017 21:17:52 GMT
Okay, you guys are right - I officially hate Inquisition's CC. It really takes time to get used to it. I'm not the biggest fan of it even after getting used to it, but at least now I can create character I can actually play for more than prologue If you're able to, notice how her brows are arched in a way that makes her look angr. All Quizzies have this look outside cutscenes.
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2017 21:33:52 GMT
Okay, you guys are right - I officially hate Inquisition's CC.To be clear, most of the sliders aren't bad. There's only one real problem I have - the brows. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THE DAMN BROWS THAT PLAGUE ME. Why is it always the brows that's an issue, even in DA2? lol Well, the brows in DA2 at least looked decent and pretty, but here, they are hideous, and Googling it up, it seems like I'm not the only one who had that sentiment. Why do the brows look like they've been shaved by a six year old trying to do a makeover? And another thing - the brow colors cannot be changed, and they'll have the same color as the hair. Not a major issue if you have white hair, as it looks less distracting, those awful brows. The problem is, I couldn't go with pure white hair it makes my Inquisitor, donning sort of a "crew cut", look completely bald under the lighting. And if I switch it to a darker shade of white, the awful brows would turn black, completely, without any shades of white at all. It's also a frustration that they don't have many other options for short-hair either, as most of those short hair options are balding crew-cuts. Thus is what I ended up with, not completely satisfied: If you're able to, notice how her brows are arched in a way that makes her look angry. I didn't design her like that, and in the CC, her brows weren't arched like that either. But no matter how I adjusted the height or bone structure of the brows, they still ended up looking like that. It must be a glitch of some sort. Sigh. I miss playing Hawke already. Probably going to leave her as my avatar instead of this disappointment. This is why my elf inquisitors doesn't have brows. And these hairs! Anyway, your elf is cute!
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Post by ryderflynn on May 14, 2017 22:01:54 GMT
Anyway, your elf is cute! Thanks. Yours looked great too, though I prefer the bottom one than the pseudo-Skrillex. :sure: For Inquisition this time, I wanted to try my hands on a cold-blooded character. I don't do those very often in RPGs as it's incredibly taxing to maintain the roleplay, and I can't just pick dialogue out of emotional compulsion. I needed to maintain a charismatic image for her so that she could manipulate her companions through choice-words (AKA choosing the correct dialogue that maximize approval, regardless of what she actually feels... not that she's capable of feeling much anyway). What I had in mind for her design was a Dalish elf sent to infiltrate the shemlen society and, if possible, corrupt it from within. It felt very appropriate because the elf Inquisitor is Dalish by default without the option to choose otherwise, and more importantly, according to the codex, it says that the Inquisitor was sent by her clan to "spy" on the Conclave meeting... for whatever dubious purpose. It would make sense if she was sent with the additional task of sabotage anyway, considering the tension between the two races. Yes, the Lavellan clan did send a letter in one of the War Table missions that they try to maintain good relationships, but that could very well be a front in my roleplay. Finally, the lost memory really helps. I don't know how the memory thing would end up in the storyline, but if possible, I could roleplay it such that she didn't really lose any memory at all and is merely putting up a pretense - she's perfectly aware of what her mission is and is carrying it out from the start. And if this somehow contradicts the lore/storyline of Inquisition somehow, just know that I'm simply winging it right now. It can always be readjusted later. Trivia: Her name was acquired through a "Dalish language translator" I found Googling. In her clan, the Keeper specifically picked the nickname, Elvar'nas. It means "Cruelty". Another reason why she was specifically picked for the sabotage mission.
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Post by Catilina on May 14, 2017 22:21:46 GMT
Anyway, your elf is cute! Thanks. Yours looked great too, though I prefer the bottom one than the pseudo-Skrillex. :sure: For Inquisition this time, I wanted to try my hands on a cold-blooded character. I don't do those very often in RPGs as it's incredibly taxing to maintain the roleplay, and I can't just pick dialogue out of emotional compulsion. I needed to maintain a charismatic image for her so that she could manipulate her companions through choice-words (AKA choosing the correct dialogue that maximize approval, regardless of what she actually feels... not that she's capable of feeling much anyway). What I had in mind for her design was a Dalish elf sent to infiltrate the shemlen society and, if possible, corrupt it from within. It felt very appropriate because the elf Inquisitor is Dalish by default without the option to choose otherwise, and more importantly, according to the codex, it says that the Inquisitor was sent by her clan to "spy" on the Conclave meeting... for whatever dubious purpose. It would make sense if she was sent with the additional task of sabotage anyway, considering the tension between the two races. Yes, the Lavellan clan did send a letter in one of the War Table missions that they try to maintain good relationships, but that could very well be a front in my roleplay. Finally, the lost memory really helps. I don't know how the memory thing would end up in the storyline, but if possible, I could roleplay it such that she didn't really lose any memory at all and is merely putting up a pretense - she's perfectly aware of what her mission is and is carrying it out from the start. And if this somehow contradicts the lore/storyline of Inquisition somehow, just know that I'm simply winging it right now. It can always be readjusted later. Trivia: Her name was acquired through a "Dalish language translator" I found Googling. In her clan, the Keeper specifically picked the nickname, Elvar'nas. It means "Cruelty". Another reason why she was specifically picked for the sabotage mission. Hey! just his hair is "pseudo-Skrillex"! (I already said, what shit are the hairstyles in Inquisition?) Nice idea to RP, I'm curious (I'm not to good at this, my playstyle mostly similar, just as my decisions. I choose a path, and wants to improve that to perfect end... I know, boring...)
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2017 23:26:33 GMT
Okay, you guys are right - I officially hate Inquisition's CC. To be clear, most of the sliders aren't bad. There's only one real problem I have - the brows. ONCE AGAIN, IT'S THE DAMN BROWS THAT PLAGUE ME. Why is it always the brows that's an issue, even in DA2? lol Well, the brows in DA2 at least looked decent and pretty, but here, they are hideous, and Googling it up, it seems like I'm not the only one who had that sentiment. Why do the brows look like they've been shaved by a six year old trying to do a makeover? And another thing - the brow colors cannot be changed, and they'll have the same color as the hair. Not a major issue if you have white hair, as it looks less distracting, those awful brows. The problem is, I couldn't go with pure white hair it makes my Inquisitor, donning sort of a "crew cut", look completely bald under the lighting. And if I switch it to a darker shade of white, the awful brows would turn black, completely, without any shades of white at all. It's also a frustration that they don't have many other options for short-hair either, as most of those short hair options are balding crew-cuts.
Yeah, I found the brows and facial hair color absolutely having to match the hair to be maddening. But I was more annoyed about plaster on eyelashes and hair, along with the obligatory skin shen tbh. But, over time, you sort of get used to it.... Me, I spent some time wrestling with the bug in Faith (Sebastian's A3 quest), until I finally came up on the "just delete this folder for a while" solution, because apparently I can't install console on my DA2 version, (sigh). Anyways, it finally worked. The quest itself is dull, but the encounter with Ethina and talking to Sebastian is really important in building up to the finale of the game. I am still flirting with Sebastian. Dat stalker smile! Poor guy tried his last defense move, he told Hawke she is meant for different things. Ah-ha-hah... Then I just mucked around with Anders' salt petre (dah-dah-duuuuum!) & started hunting rogue mages & Gamlen's quest. So, just doing busy work for now. After the Act 2 finale it is a bit boring
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 1:33:23 GMT
Edit: sorry for a repeat post, but I was curious about what is possible in DA2 in regards to Vael-Hawke and what you need for the power-couple outcome. If I create a F!Hawke that does not flirt with anyone, then encourages Sebastian to claim his title and lands, support Meredith at every turn and murder Anders, do I get to actually see Hawke as viscountess of Kirkwall wed to Prince of Starkheaven, or is it just headcanon? Does DAK and Inquisition reflect that, or does Varric always steals Kirkwall from under Hawke?
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Post by Catilina on May 15, 2017 2:03:39 GMT
So, I had a little time to play, let see: Ralph Hawke, aggressive/sarcastic, primal-blood-fire at the moment (Plan to finish: Force-Blood-Primal with one-two fire spells), Carver planned to be Grey Warden. Also planned to be rival all companions except Anders, but this will hard, I see. At the moment, for example, Carver and Fenris likes him better than all my Hawkes, included the friendly ones too. so: let's play as a jerk (not evil, just an asshole) as I can, and we'll see... Today's tasks: bring the amulet to the Sundermount. Fun moment with Carver and Merrill:
Blood Magic. Do you know what you are using, little girl, or just use blindly? Seems Anders doesn't like Blood Magic, no problem, then he'll get used to it... I would be sad if not! Well! The Witch... or Asha'bellanar or something... anyway: impressive. And promise fulfilled. Time to go. So: the little Blood Mage comes with us... On the way back we met a dwarf. After we saved him, he offered a deal, it was about some qunari black powder. He says this need him. I wondered, why need black powder to a dwarf, but Anders said, that this is some very strong stuff. Well, let's see, if this stuff pays well. Welcome in Kirkwall, Merrill! There are worse places here than this. + Anders in Brothel:
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Post by deadlydwarf on May 15, 2017 2:04:36 GMT
I just played my rogue Alighiera a bit more in DA2. She stopped Anders from killing a girl and helped him coming to terms afterwards with a lot of bad jokes (really the purple dialogue options are pure gold here. It's as if Anders is reliefed that she liked him still enough to crack a joke) Afterwards a lost patrol leads to teh chantry and Sister petrice again. Funny comment from Anders: And the gang: I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party? Surprisingly, if Anders kills Ella in one of his "Justice rages," he feels bad, but doesn't feel like he should leave the group. At that point, Hawke can use Ella's death as justification to send Anders away. I don't think Ser Alrik's papers play a role in staying or going.
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Post by melbella on May 15, 2017 2:08:19 GMT
Edit: sorry for a repeat post, but I was curious about what is possible in DA2 in regards to Vael-Hawke and what you need for the power-couple outcome. If I create a F!Hawke that does not flirt with anyone, then encourages Sebastian to claim his title and lands, support Meredith at every turn and murder Anders, do I get to actually see Hawke as viscountess of Kirkwall wed to Prince of Starkheaven, or is it just headcanon? Does DAK and Inquisition reflect that, or does Varric always steals Kirkwall from under Hawke?
It's mostly head-canon since nothing actually happens in-game. The only reason you know you became Viscount is because you get the achievement. Even that isn't shown in-game, only the Templars bowing in the final scene instead of backing away slowly.
Varric is always Viscount in Trespasser, no matter what.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 2:19:56 GMT
Edit: sorry for a repeat post, but I was curious about what is possible in DA2 in regards to Vael-Hawke and what you need for the power-couple outcome. If I create a F!Hawke that does not flirt with anyone, then encourages Sebastian to claim his title and lands, support Meredith at every turn and murder Anders, do I get to actually see Hawke as viscountess of Kirkwall wed to Prince of Starkheaven, or is it just headcanon? Does DAK and Inquisition reflect that, or does Varric always steals Kirkwall from under Hawke?
It's mostly head-canon since nothing actually happens in-game. The only reason you know you became Viscount is because you get the achievement. Even that isn't shown in-game, only the Templars bowing in the final scene instead of backing away slowly.
Varric is always Viscount in Trespasser, no matter what.
Thank you, appreciate that. I guess, I am just not going to have a protagonist in a ruler role then. Too bad, it would have been sweet. Down with Varric!
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Post by Catilina on May 15, 2017 2:20:38 GMT
I wonder if you let Anders kill that girl and don't give him ser Aldrik's papers will he leave yor party? Surprisingly, if Anders kills Ella in one of his "Justice rages," he feels bad, but doesn't feel like he should leave the group. At that point, Hawke can use Ella's death as justification to send Anders away. I don't think Ser Alrik's papers play a role in staying or going. Ella's death isn't necessary for it. Anders lost his control, Hawke can use it to send him away.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 2:36:06 GMT
Ended up playing some DAI today. Checked how Hamin was doing and saw he made a bird friend, so left them to it. Messed around in the character creator, liked what I made but doubt I'll play her. Also made attempt 2 at recreating Chutter. And hahaha no. But he's cute, so he'll do. Then Sabrae tried to impress Sera but ended with a bunch of disapproval. :C. But Vivenne seemed to be impressed, since she wont stop talking and comments on everything. Which is cool I guess. So long story short, Sabrae closed a big old rift and hit demons with her axe. Good times.
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Post by deadlydwarf on May 15, 2017 6:07:58 GMT
Surprisingly, if Anders kills Ella in one of his "Justice rages," he feels bad, but doesn't feel like he should leave the group. At that point, Hawke can use Ella's death as justification to send Anders away. I don't think Ser Alrik's papers play a role in staying or going. Ella's death isn't necessary for it. Anders lost his control, Hawke can use it to send him away. You're right; even if you select the right dialog option that keeps Anders/Justice from killing Ella, Hawke can still kick Anders out of the group because of what he almost did. I believe I did that on one PT after saving Ella.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 13:14:37 GMT
I’ve hunted down three apostates for Meredith. Even as terrible as Blaze is, I could not be mean to Emile, he is just such a silly character. Now, of course Orsino wants me to go do… things. Figure 1. Caught between Meredith and Orsino But I am not all that keen to talk to Orsino, so I went to untangle Gamlen’s puzzle, and meet this guy. Remember him? Figure 2. Someone old, and someone new. Blaze, appearance change #... 7? 8? Argh. It was pretty cool to meet Carver again as well, and I am thinking maybe I should do what melbella did in her game, and take both Carver & Fenris for Legacy, because it does make sense lore-wise in this particular game. Particularly, if I imagine that there is something between Merrill and Carver, it will be a really family outing. Figure 3. There are, indeed, dark-haired men in Kirkwall. They all join the Wardens. After helping Nathaniel, I am going to do the rest of the outstanding countryside quests: finish Gamlin’s story, kill the Dragon at the Mine and get the drakestone for Anders. It’s still killing me to be at odds with Anders, because I really could not manage the same sort of commitment to Templars, Merril and Fenris as I did to Anders and mages. If I ever undertake Valen’s run to romance Sebastian (apparently I have a warrior try-out saved right after the intro cutscene, and that’s what she is called), I will be friends with Anders, and kill him… that’s so odd, but it works great with rivaling Seb. Cheers, folks!
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Post by fylimar on May 15, 2017 13:24:44 GMT
It's mostly head-canon since nothing actually happens in-game. The only reason you know you became Viscount is because you get the achievement. Even that isn't shown in-game, only the Templars bowing in the final scene instead of backing away slowly.
Varric is always Viscount in Trespasser, no matter what.
Thank you, appreciate that. I guess, I am just not going to have a protagonist in a ruler role then. Too bad, it would have been sweet. Down with Varric! Well, you could headcanon that Varric is only acting viscount as long as Hawke is in Weisshaupt, sorting the warden thing out I did play a bit more yesterday and finally found a way how to make that mohawk work without seeing any seams - that was caused by a complexion mod. So if you like to use mohawk hairstyles or others, that shows a bit of skin on the head in DA2, don't fiddle with the complexion slider, otherwise you see a seamline around your head - Jyoti looks about right now (you can see the seamline in the other pics): Jyoti recruited Anders and Isabella and is about to do Bait and Switch to recruit Mr. Broody. She did only the funny dialogue options with Anders (apart from expressing her condolences for Karls death, she is not that unsensible), but that seems to work fine. Anders likes the jokes and Carver doesn't give rivalry. I'm not sure yet, if I will bother with Sebastian in this playthrough. They only thing, I like about him, is his accent and his quest in Act 2 with the creepy mansion, but since Varric and Isabella are my favorites and nearly always in my group (one of them at least), I really don't need Mr. Preachy, not even for Merrills interpretation of the chant of light.
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Post by fylimar on May 15, 2017 13:26:15 GMT
@carefull I like Blaze, she looks great, the new makeover suits her
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2017 13:34:25 GMT
@carefull I like Blaze, she looks great, the new makeover suits her Thank you. I miss what I see in your characters, and in the companions. The coolness factor. I guess, only the default Hawke gets it. She just looks very vanilla & she is back to where I started pretty much. The robes do not help either.... and I am too lazy to mod the game, so I can just be like that cat that rolled over his own... you know what, is too lazy to move over, so he yawls instead. I dunno, I just miss that je ne sais quoi in DA games in terms of appearances.
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Post by ryderflynn on May 15, 2017 13:57:42 GMT
Realized that I couldn't go five minutes in exploration without stumbling across some codex or side quest, or both (side quests popping out codex entries out of nowhere). Not that I'm complaining about the ample content to read (I read all of them), but still, it's a feeling between morbidly amusing and just plain annoying. lol
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