What did you do today in DA? [Spoilers]

May 15, 2017 13:57:42 GMT ryderflynn said:

Realized that I couldn't go five minutes in exploration without stumbling across some codex or side quest, or both (side quests popping out codex entries out of nowhere). Not that I'm complaining about the ample content to read (I read all of them), but still, it's a feeling between morbidly amusing and just plain annoying. lol

Are you in the Hinterlands? Because general advice for people that started playing is "get out of the Hinterlands" :lol:

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

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Are you in the Hinterlands? Because general advice for people that started playing is "get out of the Hinterlands" :lol:

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

If you don't, see you in 2019ish... when you move to the Storm Coast. And then the comp quests will send you back to the Hinterlands. It's awesome like that.

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Post by deadlydwarf on May 15, 2017 18:44:18 GMT

Are you in the Hinterlands? Because general advice for people that started playing is "get out of the Hinterlands" :lol:

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

I sympathize. I actually feel guilty when I leave certain things undone. If this is your first PT, you may want to indulge your completionist inclinations. Then in future PTs, you'll know what you really want to do and what you can skip. I do the shard quests because it leads you to useful gear. The mosaic pieces get you nothing but a codex at the end.

In a first PT, I would actually do everything in the Hinterlands. Many secondary quests lead you to agents that will help you get the most important Inquisition perks.

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Are you in the Hinterlands? Because general advice for people that started playing is "get out of the Hinterlands" :lol:

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

It is impossible to finish Hinterlands 100%

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Post by ryderflynn on May 15, 2017 19:10:26 GMT

~~I gave up after the fifth fetch quest.~~ Kidding.

The main reason I forfeited my OCD was because I realized that some of the side quests earn you approval from your companions, something I wish I would've realized sooner when I recruited the first two agents. Oh well.

And of course, yes, another reason is because I don't want to be burned out so quickly by the repetitive farming process.

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Post by fylimar on May 15, 2017 19:14:38 GMT

Are you in the Hinterlands? Because general advice for people that started playing is "get out of the Hinterlands" :lol:

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

You can get back to the Hinterlands any time. So you loose nothing, if you move on and come back later.

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May 15, 2017 19:10:26 GMT ryderflynn said:

~~I gave up after the fifth fetch quest.~~ Kidding.

The main reason I forfeited my OCD was because I realized that some of the side quests earn you approval from your companions, something I wish I would've realized sooner when I recruited the first two agents. Oh well.

And of course, yes, another reason is because I don't want to be burned out so quickly by the repetitive farming process.

This is simply a substitute for gift giving. You will gain enough approval with them to unlock their dialogues without visiting all 47 locations on the Grey Warden's Memorial Trail or all other BS. I would suggest only doing it if you are stuck in convo sequences with the comps. Life's too short.

the general rule of thumb in Inquisition is if you don't absolutely have to do it, don't do it. In 99% cases you'd regret doing it anyway.

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Post by Rascoth on May 15, 2017 19:31:24 GMT

May 15, 2017 19:10:26 GMT ryderflynn said:

~~I gave up after the fifth fetch quest.~~ Kidding.

The main reason I forfeited my OCD was because I realized that some of the side quests earn you approval from your companions, something I wish I would've realized sooner when I recruited the first two agents. Oh well.

And of course, yes, another reason is because I don't want to be burned out so quickly by the repetitive farming process.

Even if you didn't, at one point Hinterlands pretty much tries to kick you out, once you stumble upon enemies levels higher than you. Or... Hafter's Woods. You really need a break from that place once you spend some time there, especially on first/one of the first pts :facepalm:

*sigh*

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Post by melbella on May 15, 2017 19:44:42 GMT

Are you in the Hinterlands? Because general advice for people that started playing is "get out of the Hinterlands" :lol:

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

I'll save you the head-bashing and tell you right off the bat, there is no way to get every codex entry in a single DAI game.

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Post by ryderflynn on May 15, 2017 19:56:16 GMT

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

I'll save you the head-bashing and tell you right off the bat, there is no way to get every codex entry in a single DAI game.

That doesn't make sense. Is there a new game plus? Do the codex entries carry over to the next PT? If so, that's probably the only (or at least one of the few) change in gameplay from the older games I would approve of.

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Post by Rascoth on May 15, 2017 19:59:14 GMT

I'll save you the head-bashing and tell you right off the bat, there is no way to get every codex entry in a single DAI game.

That doesn't make sense. Is there a new game plus? Do the codex entries carry over to the next PT? If so, that's probably the only change in gameplay from the older games I would approve of.

There's no NG+, sort of. We have Golden Nug that lets us carry over a lot of stuff, but not codex entries.

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Post by melbella on May 15, 2017 19:59:50 GMT

I'll save you the head-bashing and tell you right off the bat, there is no way to get every codex entry in a single DAI game.

That doesn't make sense. Is there a new game plus? Do the codex entries carry over to the next PT? If so, that's probably the only change in gameplay from the older games I would approve of.

Nope. Some are bugged or don't exist. The entries for what spec you pick are only available for your class, not all 3 (so at most you get 3 of 9) and if you do one of 2 mutually exclusive missions, you don't get the codex entry from the other one.

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Post by Rascoth on May 15, 2017 20:04:29 GMT

That doesn't make sense. Is there a new game plus? Do the codex entries carry over to the next PT? If so, that's probably the only change in gameplay from the older games I would approve of.

Nope. Some are bugged or don't exist. The entries for what spec you pick are only available for your class, not all 3 (so at most you get 3 of 9) and if you do one of 2 mutually exclusive missions, you don't get the codex entry from the other one.

Not entirely true. You can buy some missed codex entries once its location is inaccessible (including those from exclusive missions), but I'm not certain you can buy all of them.

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Post by ryderflynn on May 15, 2017 20:09:30 GMT

That doesn't make sense. Is there a new game plus? Do the codex entries carry over to the next PT? If so, that's probably the only change in gameplay from the older games I would approve of.

Nope. Some are bugged or don't exist.

Annnnd the Bioware legacy of bugs carries on. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Any self-respecting triple-A title nowadays wouldn't be what they are without a massive backlog of unaddressed bugs. Is Trespasser still crashing for every mod and their uncle?

At least it makes me feel better about forgetting to pick up certain codex entries, saves me from the effort of "gotta catch'em all!"

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May 15, 2017 20:09:30 GMT ryderflynn said:

Nope. Some are bugged or don't exist.

Annnnd the Bioware legacy of bugs carries on. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Any self-respecting triple-A title nowadays wouldn't be what they are without a massive backlog of unaddressed bugs. Is Trespasser still crashing for every mod and their uncle?

At least it makes me feel better about forgetting to pick up certain codex entries, saves me from the effort of "gotta catch'em all!"

Yes, it does, but to be fair, it is not BioWARE's job to test Trespasser for compatibility with user made mods, it's completely on the modders. What they are doing now in Andromeda in terms of improving character looks, why, I wish that's what Inquisition did back when it was new, so you did not have to install mods to make your characters look less like a nightmare, and more like a maiden's dream.

What does squarely me annoy is that the Exiled Prince cutscenes were not patched to not crash the game between the ample period between the release and now, or that no efforts was ever made for ME2/3 and DA2 to roll in all the DLCs into a version of the game, and they left the dated, and discontinued Bio points system in place. Mindboggling.

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May 15, 2017 20:21:31 GMT @carefull said:

May 15, 2017 20:09:30 GMT ryderflynn said:

Annnnd the Bioware legacy of bugs carries on. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Any self-respecting triple-A title nowadays wouldn't be what they are without a massive backlog of unaddressed bugs. Is Trespasser still crashing for every mod and their uncle?

At least it makes me feel better about forgetting to pick up certain codex entries, saves me from the effort of "gotta catch'em all!"

Yes, it does, but to be fair, it is not BioWARE's job to test Trespasser for compatibility with user made mods, it's completely on the modders. What they are doing now in Andromeda in terms of improving character looks, why, I wish that's what Inquisition did back when it was new, so you did not have to install mods to make your characters look less like a nightmare, and more like a maiden's dream.

Well, Andromeda probably received more immediate attention because... you know:

I'll never look at Addison the same way again.

Anyway, yeah, the massive amount of glitches in Andromeda. It's not surprising Bioware panicked.

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Post by deadlydwarf on May 15, 2017 22:05:37 GMT

I'll save you the head-bashing and tell you right off the bat, there is no way to get every codex entry in a single DAI game.

That doesn't make sense. Is there a new game plus? Do the codex entries carry over to the next PT? If so, that's probably the only (or at least one of the few) change in gameplay from the older games I would approve of.

Most codexes (or codices?) aren't that important. They basically fill you in on lore, history of Thedas, things you may already know if you did the first two games. They may be most important for the gamer whose first DA game is Inquisition (like myself) and needs to be given context for the conflicts he/she is encountering. Sadly, they don't carry over from game to game. I suppose you can collect them the way some collect baseball cards. For myself, I thoroughly search most areas, but missing codex entries never bothered me.

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May 15, 2017 20:04:29 GMT Rascoth said:

Nope. Some are bugged or don't exist. The entries for what spec you pick are only available for your class, not all 3 (so at most you get 3 of 9) and if you do one of 2 mutually exclusive missions, you don't get the codex entry from the other one.

Not entirely true. You can buy some missed codex entries once its location is inaccessible (including those from exclusive missions), but I'm not certain you can buy all of them.

True, but you can only buy the ones (note: ryderflynn - don't read the spoiler if you haven't played DAI yet)

from In Hushed Whispers, and in my last game I'm pretty sure I was cheated out of some of them. The only way you get the Envy codex is to go get the Templars. I didn't want to specify which was which in my post since I don't think ryderflynn has played DAI yet.

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Hawke stopped a crazy elf lady from spreading poison through the city, thanks to the stupid qunari and their great trap..Been slow days so that's all I've done of act 2. Switched some hardware around now running on an awesome 1080ti ftw edition. Can't wait to see Inquisition on It!!

But the trilogy run is likely going to be on hold for a bit as Injustice 2 will be taking my attention for a while!

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I got the first issue of Knight Errant in the mail today but have been reading/posting here instead of reading the comic.

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Well, finally, I have found a F!Hawke's face I do like. Thankfully before Legacy

Figure 1. Blaze, the perfect face.

What I did save for tweaking her face was finish Anders' Act 3 quest, which is why I went to tweak her face, because it was so sad, Justice showing up, Anders' trying to almost back off, the whole sea of tears sort of stuff.

Then I wrapped up Aveline's many stage quest, and she is now sworn to Blaze forever. Gods, she is awesome

Figure 2. Aveline, the perfect knight.

A dragon, Merrill's demon and Varric's ghosts are all waiting for Blaze still.

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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 16, 2017 2:49:18 GMT

So I've read, yeah. It sucks to be a completionist who wants to collect as much codex and complete as many side quests as I can from the get-go. I'll try to resist the urge to go to every marker on the map and get out of Hinterlands, buuuut no promises. x_x

I'll save you the head-bashing and tell you right off the bat, there is no way to get every codex entry in a single DAI game.

I realised that after several PTs so I generally don't bother to look at codex any more. I just clear up everything in every map in every PT except for the odd one or two that I don't find worth the effort. Like the letter in Hinterlands in a abandoned camp that says to bring some plant, Felandris (?) to some statue at the area near RedCliffe farms. You don't get the plant until much later and when the quest is completed, it's just some dinky loot and nothing else so I don't bother after the initial PT. This is a side quest that does nothing but wastes the player's time. I'd like to see the devs get rid of such time filler sidequests for DA4.

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