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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 13:52:37 GMT
Alistair pointed out how close Lel and Naderra Brosca had gotten during that convo where he asks your opinion of the group.
Later, in the mage tower, he then asked Leliana how to approach a woman.
Whaaaaaaa- I don't think I've flirted with him once! Dusters Honor!
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 3, 2017 13:53:44 GMT
Alistair pointed out how close Lel and Brosca had gotten during that convo where he asks your opinion of the group. Later, in the mage tower, he then asked Leliana how to approach a woman. Whaaaaaaa- I don't think I've flirted with him once! Dusters Honor! That's the "beauty" of DAO. Ninjamancers everywhere
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Post by Iddy on Jun 3, 2017 14:14:22 GMT
I've been stuck in the Broken Circle quest for THREE WEEKS. Not because it's hard, but because I'm a perfectionist when it comes to roleplay.
First, I started over because I realized my Warden's dialogue didn't make it clear that he figured out Fade!Duncan is an imposter.
Then I took a break from DAO, got back to it, but started over again when I was just about to finish Broken Circle. Why? Because I decided that sparing the blood mage woman was stupid.
So I took another break and this time I actually changed my mind. I spared the blood mage. But I'm still not satisfied because I didn't choose the dialogue option where you ask her by what means will she escape.
That would have made the decision to spare her seem more reasonable, as my Warden would be making it clear that he isn't oblivious to the risk in letting her go.
More than that, he would be sparing her on the condition that she escapes through peaceful means.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 3, 2017 14:20:33 GMT
I've been stuck in the Broken Circle quest for THREE WEEKS. Not because it's hard, but because I'm a perfectionist when it comes to roleplay. First, I started over because I realized my Warden's dialogue didn't make it clear that he figured out Fade!Duncan is an imposter. Then I took a break from DAO, got back to it, but started over again when I was just about to finish Broken Circle. Why? Because I decided that sparing the blood mage woman was stupid. So I took another break and this time I actually changed my mind. I spared the blood mage. But I'm still not satisfied because I didn't choose the dialogue option where you ask her by what means will she escape. That would have made the decision to spare her seem more reasonable, as my Warden would be making it clear that he isn't oblivious to the risk in letting her go. More than that, he would be sparing her on the condition that she escapes through peaceful means. I feel you! I often do such a thing when I want a perfect playthrough. For example now, I think about, which decision fit better my impatient aggressive Hawke about Carver: leave him at home, or take to Deep Roads. I planned a warden Carver, but I don't know yet: perhaps their relationship better with Templar Carver... I can't finish the Act 1...
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 14:25:28 GMT
CatilinaIddyYou two make me laugh. I'll reload a scene but that's as far as I'll go. Naderra Brosca has no opinion on demons. And as the Desire Demon had not attacked her, the rule "kill those who try to kill you" didn't come into play. Leliana called it all unholy, so I was thinking she'd be unhappy but... first time I let the desire demon make off with the Templar. Then I got a +1 from Lel because "can't be wrong if he seemed so happy!" From her. Ur silly Leli
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 14:46:39 GMT
Naderra Brosca Can't be too dumb to not trigger Fade.Duncan. she said she'd try to be happy. Took a nap. But it was just too boring, There was nothing to steal, which was the weirdest thing. So when she went back up to Duncan a second time and said something was amiss, he got mad and attacked her.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 3, 2017 15:00:25 GMT
Naderra Brosca Can't be too dumb to not trigger Fade.Duncan. she said she'd try to be happy. Took a nap. But it was just too boring, There was nothing to steal, which was the weirdest thing. So when she went back up to Duncan a second time and said something was amiss, he got mad and attacked her. Well, it is possible to be dumb enough not to trigger Fade Duncan. It's just that it requires you to stop playing after you tell him you're happy there. lol
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Post by Catilina on Jun 3, 2017 16:59:55 GMT
Catilina Iddy You two make me laugh. I'll reload a scene but that's as far as I'll go. Naderra Brosca has no opinion on demons. And as the Desire Demon had not attacked her, the rule "kill those who try to kill you" didn't come into play. Leliana called it all unholy, so I was thinking she'd be unhappy but... first time I let the desire demon make off with the Templar. Then I got a +1 from Lel because "can't be wrong if he seemed so happy!" From her. Ur silly Leli Haha! Please don't laugh at me, this is a serious question, help me!
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 17:38:55 GMT
Wynne in the Fade Dream: And where were you when this happened? I trusted you as an ally and you were no where to be found. Me, dumb fuck up Brosca: isn't that proof enough that this place isn't right?
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 17:40:50 GMT
Catilina Iddy You two make me laugh. I'll reload a scene but that's as far as I'll go. Haha! Please don't laugh at me, this is a serious question, help me! I love my younger brother in real life. He could have recently come out to help me on my bathroom renovations. I intentionally did not invite him. He's prone to mood swings and anger and I didn't have time to baby him just so he could feel like a useful family member. Angry impatient Hawke? Leave Carver behind.
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Post by themikefest on Jun 3, 2017 17:42:37 GMT
Went to the land of the little people. Why are the ceilings so high? Since I'm taller, does that mean I need to raise the roof? hahaha. I made a funny. I will support the Harro guy. I fight in the Proving. Of course I won. So now the Harow guy want me to deal with the carta. Ok. Engaging my arcane mage/warrior thingy. I stop long enought to get a giant looking rat for the Redhead. So this is the leader of the carta? I let the companions take care of my light work while I sit back and relax. Now the Harro guy wants me to find a dwarf some where in the deep roads. But what if she isn't there? What if she's in the shallow roads? I bet no one thought of that. A dwarf with a red beard wants to go with me. He's also married to the dwarf I'm looking for. I said sure, but I left him at the camp. Lots of the spawn of dark. I released a giant looking demon who rewarded me with a lot of coin. Cool. It will make up for that coin I spent on the Red. I found the boy Ruck. Ruck was down on his luck. He didn't want to see mom anymore. What the heck? How did the little red beard get here? Fine. There's his wife. She needs help first. Lets try something different for change. You help me first, then I will help you. So that's the Carry golem who made the void of the anvil? I help it. I kill the redbeard's wife. I can think of a few people I want to turn into a golem. Yeah I know. I'm a mean one. Too bad I didn't have a song like that other guy. I choose the Harrowmount dwarf to be King. Why? I like his beard. Alright. Back to camp
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Post by Catilina on Jun 3, 2017 18:09:38 GMT
Haha! Please don't laugh at me, this is a serious question, help me! I love my younger brother in real life. He could have recently come out to help me on my bathroom renovations. I intentionally did not invite him. He's prone to mood swings and anger and I didn't have time to baby him just so he could feel like a useful family member. Angry impatient Hawke? Leave Carver behind. Yes... sadly this is what I expected too... I need a reason to bring him to the Deep Roads. Or I need a new pt with a more tolerant Hawke...
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Post by melbella on Jun 3, 2017 18:41:48 GMT
Anyone else having issues with the site loading properly? I keep getting web server error messages.
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 3, 2017 18:45:46 GMT
Anyone else having issues with the site loading properly? I keep getting web server error messages. Yeah, having those issues as well. Though it's not as bad as it was 2 days ago, when certain pages of certain threads (including this one) not loaded, while others loaded just fine.
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Post by simit on Jun 3, 2017 19:00:24 GMT
thought that was just me an being on a console 😆😆 glad i was wrong again 😆
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 19:39:54 GMT
Rascoth melbellawas happening to me too, the same as what Rascoth said. Could be the site has gotten too big for it's servers. *said with a Sera intonation.*
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 19:44:16 GMT
My trip through the tower as a Brosca really peaked my imagination. All those fonts of cunning, dexterity, strength... and even that one Templar "gives you" his wisdom.
I fear I've quite thoroughly imagined a "Flowers of Algernon" side effect for my poor Brosca, to be written in a little bit.
Additionally, Alistair confessed his love for Brosca- I turned him down. But it made me think of a one shot fanfic for Lel and Brosca now. Crazy stuff. Going to write it first, then I'll be back to share the adventures of Naderra Brosca. My dumb commoner dwarf who got to be smart for a day.
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Post by melbella on Jun 3, 2017 19:58:11 GMT
After a quick review of dis/approval on the major quests, I think I'm going to conscript the mages (only option that gives Solas red points) and keep the Wardens. Dorian won't like the conscription but I'll make it up to him by keeping Alexius alive (albeit in jail since I remembered I wanted to hear everyone's locked up commentary this time around). This may result in getting Vivienne as Divine again but oh well. There are more important things at stake here!
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Post by Iddy on Jun 3, 2017 20:20:20 GMT
I've been stuck in the Broken Circle quest for THREE WEEKS. Not because it's hard, but because I'm a perfectionist when it comes to roleplay. First, I started over because I realized my Warden's dialogue didn't make it clear that he figured out Fade!Duncan is an imposter. Then I took a break from DAO, got back to it, but started over again when I was just about to finish Broken Circle. Why? Because I decided that sparing the blood mage woman was stupid. So I took another break and this time I actually changed my mind. I spared the blood mage. But I'm still not satisfied because I didn't choose the dialogue option where you ask her by what means will she escape. That would have made the decision to spare her seem more reasonable, as my Warden would be making it clear that he isn't oblivious to the risk in letting her go. More than that, he would be sparing her on the condition that she escapes through peaceful means. I feel you! I often do such a thing when I want a perfect playthrough. For example now, I think about, which decision fit better my impatient aggressive Hawke about Carver: leave him at home, or take to Deep Roads. I planned a warden Carver, but I don't know yet: perhaps their relationship better with Templar Carver... I can't finish the Act 1... Hawke's reason to take him could be something as simple as "Ugh. I just know he will whine endlessly about how evil I am when I return. I'd better take him with me". Or perhaps "Maybe this expedition is exactly what he needs to finally grow the fuck up".
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 20:25:08 GMT
After a quick review of dis/approval on the major quests, I think I'm going to conscript the mages (only option that gives Solas red points) and keep the Wardens. Dorian won't like the conscription but I'll make it up to him by keeping Alexius alive (albeit in jail since I remembered I wanted to hear everyone's locked up commentary this time around). This may result in getting Vivienne as Divine again but oh well. There are more important things at stake here!
Could always not recruit her. I'm thinking my Dorian-mance is going to do that.
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 20:28:59 GMT
Okay. Definitely not my best work, but at least it's out of my head. Since Lothering: A short one shotAnd I like it better than all of the other Lel/Fem. Brosca writings I've read to try to be inspired for this PT. ^^ Don't like Leliana, but I like her for my Brosca and their romantic arc. I find myself to be absurd that I've written only two complete one shots in the Dragon Age Universe and one of them was about the Crazy Murder Bard of all people!
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Post by melbella on Jun 3, 2017 20:29:18 GMT
Not sure what happened to the "Things you just discovered" thread for DAI, but I just discovered if Solas isn't in your party, Mihris is nowhere to be found and you can't do anything other than loot the crypt and find the rune. If he hadn't been whining so bad about meeting the Chantry mothers in VR, we *might* have had time to take a look before I dumped his butt for Vivienne. On the plus side, this means no easy approval from him just for activating those mystery artifacts.
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 20:37:27 GMT
Not sure what happened to the "Things you just discovered" thread for DAI, but I just discovered if Solas isn't in your party, Mihris is nowhere to be found and you can't do anything other than loot the crypt and find the rune. If he hadn't been whining so bad about meeting the Chantry mothers in VR, we *might* have had time to take a look before I dumped his butt for Vivienne. On the plus side, this means no easy approval from him just for activating those mystery artifacts. I think Id' read that you have to do it before going to Val Royeoux? Cuz otherwise you'd have been short a party member for you to have visited without him otherwise. So, not so much party dependent as Time Event dependent? Weird. Surely they have another method of turning on his approval fetch quest series.
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Post by phoray on Jun 3, 2017 21:48:05 GMT
Naderra BroscaFace shot: Behind Spoiler for Length; They'd all gone back to camp to rest. All except Naderra. She was digging through her knapsack and tent for the blank scrolls she'd picked up over the long while that she hadn't already sold to Bodahn. She only had so much time before it was gone. She found what she was seeking, came closer to the fire, quill in hand, and then stared at the blank pages. Tears began to well. She'd never felt despair, before. She'd been too dumb to. Leliana came out of her tent, wrapped in a blanket to keep off the Fereldan cold. Her and Naderra's shift to keep watch wasn't until the few hours before dawn.
"Naderra." Leliana said, having come close enough to quietly speak. "What's wrong?"
Naderra didn't answer. She couldn't choose the words to express herself, and the bitter irony overwhelmed her. Soon the words wouldn't even be there to be chosen.
Leliana sat down beside her and leaned into her as she did when they kept watch together.
"Naderra, I can't help to have noticed... you've been different since we came out of the Fade. The dreams-- the nightmares? Were yours... bad? Is that what's wrong?"
"Leliana," Naderra rasped, forcing herself to speak. She had to. Or accept that she'd only try to later with the eloquence of a child. "Leliana. My Fade Dream was Duncan, telling me that the Blight was over. And that all Grey Wardens could retire."
Leliana laughed, a small tinkling sound. "How absurd. That couldn't have appealed to you much. You're too energetic for that."
Naderra didn't look at her at she replied. "I believed him. Well, enough, I suppose. I wandered around my dream for a bit, but I suppose you're right. I was bored. nothing to eat, nothing to steal, only a couple humans standing around. When I approached Duncan again, all I said was, "Things don't seem right." And he attacked! Only his attack made me realize, Leliana. I truly didn't know before that moment that I wasn't just bored at Weishaupt."
Leliana leaned in and nuzzled her shoulder. "Don't be so hard on yourself, Naderra. I was so strongly within my dream of being committed to the Chantry that you had to pull me out of it. Violently, as I stood by trembling in confusion. We both have our weaknesses, let's not think on them too long."
Naderra pulled away, slightly, shaking her head vehemently. "Let me speak, Leliana, for I finally have a tale to tell you. And it may be the only one I ever weave."
Leliana, hurt about her rejection, but also concerned, leaned back. "Then I will listen."
Naderra looked down at the scroll and quill in her hands, her eyes losing focus.
"I found a man, Niall. That Tranquil had mentioned him, the mage that had the Litany of Adralla. He told me that I was trapped, there was no way out. He spoke truly enough, but luck, chance, fate, the Ancestors or your Maker had a different plan. In boredom, and concern for the rest of you, I wandered around the area, and encountered a demon slaughtering a mouse. Odd enough, but it was One that could speak. And it begged for help. So I helped. And with it's last dying moments, it gave me the ability to shape shift into a mouse. Like Morrigan can turn into a spider. It was exciting! I was small and I could hide and I was innately quiet. I've never been quiet. It was a skill I'd never bothered with, but held me in good stead today as I searched for all of you. Eventually, I could take on the shapes of other creatures. A golem, of which I'd only heard of in the tales of my people. A fighter who burned with rage. But it was the last one, Leliana, the last form that was the most beautiful and yet...the most harmful."
Tears fell upon the parchment she gripped in her calloused hands.
"It was that of an Arcane Horror, but what came with it was Wisdom. Suddenly, not only could I read the titles of the books on the shelves, LEliana, I had memories swimming in my mind that told me I'd read them. Me! A Duster! I'd only ever held a book on an errand for some noble, Leliana, I can't read!"
Naderra twisted where she sat to look at Leliana, anguish twisting her features. Leliana appeared shocked, and she would be, wouldn't she? Fine lady such as herself just found out she'd kissed an illiterate dwarf. Additionally, part of naderra's charm was, essentially, she was too dumb to be upset about much, giving her a quite cheerful laidback demeaner. And now she was crying, gnashing her teeth. Naderra turned back away.
"I took all four forms as needed to do what I needed to do. I also came upon rooms with glowing fonts. They made me stronger and faster. They also made me smarter." naderra took a deep breath, calming herself. Leliana stayed near, still listening.
Her next words were spoken more softly. "I felt bright and sharp. I felt like I'd finally woken up, Leliana. I could read, I knew things. I felt...rage, for how I and my family had been treated in Dust town when before?... Before I'd just accepted it because it could not change."
Naderra started to cry. These were the first tears she'd ever shed for something that wasn't a severe injury. Oh, Ancestors... she knew what shed be losing. Was already feeling to slip away from her.
Leliana reached out to her and brought her close, not a care that her blanket had fallen away. "Shhhh. There there, naderra. I can see that our experiences of today have changed you. But all of these are good things, non? Why shed tears over these improvements to your body and intellect even if they came from such an odd place?"
Naderra kept crying but her tears slowed as she pulled herself together. Leliana used the corner of her blanket to wipe at her face some.
"Because they're Temporary, Leliana. I can not shape shift any longer, and the spirits or...people... that helped me to do so are in the Fade. And I am here. A dwarf, with no connection to that realm, even in dreams. "
Leliana frowned and seemed to be at a loss as to what to say. Naderra pulled away to look back at the fire. She gathered the quill and the parchment and calmly threw them into the fire. It was already too late; it had been too late even as they had boated across Lake Calenhad. Bringing her knees up against her chest, she rested her chin on them. The heat of the fire began to dry the last of her tears. Her following words were quiet and calm.
"I am... afraid, Leliana. The me that is speaking right now... I can feel her dying all around me. I know, now, what you and many other lucky people must feel like at your best. And when the rest of this magic fades away, I will be the old me. The old Naderra. Except she couldn't regret and now... now she probably will. At least a memory of it will touch her for the rest of her days.'
"Naderra, I am sorry." Leliana sounded like she was crying, and so Naderra turned to her, surprised. But it seemed she was just overcome with emotion. "An evil has been done to you and I cannot undo it. You have suffered for us. Will suffer for us." Leliana's soft hand reached out to touch her round cheek. It felt cool where the fire had warmed it.
Naderra, smiled sadly. The look in her face and eyes likely never to be repeated. It was knowing, and wise, accepting of the pain. "No, Leliana. You and the others are safe and in the world again. We are one step closer to ending the Blight. No sorrow will live in me when you are at my side- except the one." Naderra reached out to Leliana's own cheek, then brushed through her red hair with her fingers.
"You're beautiful, Leliana. Let me know you now...before the magic fades. Let the memory of us, tonight, be burned into me at my sharpest so that it never fades."
Leliana nodded, they both stood, holding hands. Their first time was not a rushed and heated embrace, but a slow coming together, an edge of tragedy in each moment.
And come the morning, Naderra woke with Leliana gazing upon her with adoration.
"Oh no, Lel, you shouldn't have let me sleep through my time to do the watch!" naderra exclaimed, feeling awkward in the morning after.
"I want you to know, naderra, that I love you. And I have great joy knowing that, going forward, I will wake with you every morning at my side. I would have felt that way about you even if we'd done this two weeks ago. I need you to know that." Lelaiana reached out and gave her arm a squeeze.
Naderra smiled, a bit nervous. her way with words had slipped away in the night. She felt a pang about that, but not very strong. What was the point in thinking about something you couldn't change? "Thanks, Leliana. I erm... I love you too. I wish we'd hopped into each other's bed sooner!" naderra grinned, sheepish.
Finger combing through her dull brown hair while admiring Leliana's gleaming red locks, Naderra noticed that Leliana's expression had changed.
"What?"
"well, I wondered how you...felt."
Naderra pursed her lips to the side as she assessed herself. She still felt...different.
"Not as sharp as yesterday but... not as dull as I used to be either. Maybe some of that magic stuck to me after all!" Naderra grinned, laughing a little. Leliana looked relieved.
'Well, let's start our day then. Oh, and, Naderra?"
"Yes, Leliana?"
"WE can start reading lessons tonight, if it would please you."
Naderra cocked her head, considering. "Sure! Why not?"Writing this made me a bit sad. Originally I wrote it without the suggestion of reading lessons but then it just seemed oddly surreal and disturbing. So, added that to make it have a sense of optimism.
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 3, 2017 21:49:06 GMT
Finished DA2 and I'm already feeling like starting another pt. This game will be the end of me Legacy first. Took Fenris, Isabela and Carver. Carta decided they're in business for blood. Hawke blood to be precise. Didn't even check if both possible sources are good. Got to visit lovely, not-ominous-at-all tower. And got trapped there, because why not. Metagaming hard, Hawke sided with Janeka to betray her in the end and side with Larius (the only way other GWs survive). Beat the crap of ancient darkspawn-magister to get back home. I have to admit, it was the first time I heard this comment from Carver, since before others took precedence. Carver, I'm definitely NOT happy to hear that. It just adds to the theory that Cory was messing with Kirkwall's area for a very long time. Ah, The Last Straw left. During the showdown, Hawke sided with mages, spared Anders and asked him to leave. Wild Carver appeared on the way to the Gallows. Another reason to replay DA2, I need saves with him as Templar. After reaching the Gallows the time came for last talks. Anders rejoined the party, found out Carver was plotting with Aveline behind Hawke's back (damn onions!), kept using Isabela's Act 2 actions to make fun of her till the very end, calmed Merrill down and reassured Varric that Hawke is - in fact - still a bit crazy. Also... *cough, cough* Then... proceeded to beat the crap out of everyone in the way. The end. And here as well I saw comment that I never saw before. Probably because she never managed to stun my party second time.While it took me by surprise, I suspected there might be some part of her that's aware that her mind is not exactly only hers.
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