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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 15:02:20 GMT
You take that back about Bethany On the Circle Mage path, Bethany is weak willed and self hating- aw, lil sweet victim taking the martyr path and not killing the Templars on her door step, just meekly trots along to her cage. On the Warden Path, Bethany becomes slightly less weak willed but, as an expense, becomes a Hawke Hating Bitch. I have no regrets saying the truth. She is a person who wants to live a normal life, not everyone in the game has to be heroic or incredibly brave. Her normalness is a breath of fresh air really
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Post by phoray on Jun 11, 2017 15:21:00 GMT
On the Circle Mage path, Bethany is weak willed and self hating- aw, lil sweet victim taking the martyr path and not killing the Templars on her door step, just meekly trots along to her cage. On the Warden Path, Bethany becomes slightly less weak willed but, as an expense, becomes a Hawke Hating Bitch. She is a person who wants to live a normal life, not everyone in the game has to be heroic or incredibly brave. Her normalness is a breath of fresh air really *shrugs* I'm not impressed with her but I don't hate her. The game makes you pick a sibling based on class, and I've played mages just to get Carver at this point. Normality is fairly well represented by Hawke's uncle, Gamlin, and mother, Leandra. Karin?/Karas? The Templar you save represents pretty well additionally.
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 11, 2017 15:25:16 GMT
Karin?/Karas? The Templar you save represents pretty well additionally. Keran Karras was an ass that tried to capture Starkhaven mages.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 15:56:27 GMT
She is a person who wants to live a normal life, not everyone in the game has to be heroic or incredibly brave. Her normalness is a breath of fresh air really *shrugs* I'm not impressed with her but I don't hate her. The game makes you pick a sibling based on class, and I've played mages just to get Carver at this point. Normality is fairly well represented by Hawke's uncle, Gamlin, and mother, Leandra. Karin?/Karas? The Templar you save represents pretty well additionally. Lol Gamlen is the least normal character in the game. Plus I really like playing as a non mage Hawke because my Hawkes always stay neutral to the events in Kirkwall and Hawke involving in the war and siding with the mages just to protect Bethany works for me
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Post by phoray on Jun 11, 2017 17:50:31 GMT
Still not happy with the tweaks I made in Black Emporium to get my new 2 hander Varas Trevelyan looking like his old sword self. I found him really hot in his first incarnation, but my attempt to recreate just leaves me with...pretty. Do the stats change all that much between the two? Maybe I should just go play him sword and shield until I get to Haven and can just put a 2 handed weapon in his hands. Would mean playing out the first 5 hours of the game in the Hinterlands all over again. But having a character you like is worth it
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Post by melbella on Jun 11, 2017 18:03:23 GMT
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Post by phoray on Jun 11, 2017 20:33:18 GMT
*shrugs* I'm not impressed with her but I don't hate her. The game makes you pick a sibling based on class, and I've played mages just to get Carver at this point. Normality is fairly well represented by Hawke's uncle, Gamlin, and mother, Leandra. Karin?/Karas? The Templar you save represents pretty well additionally. Lol Gamlen is the least normal character in the game. Plus I really like playing as a non mage Hawke because my Hawkes always stay neutral to the events in Kirkwall and Hawke involving in the war and siding with the mages just to protect Bethany works for me Gamlen is the LEAST normal? Racist sexist jerk with a gambling addiction is the LEAST normal? You most not live in the Midwest/Southern united States
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2017 20:52:52 GMT
Lol Gamlen is the least normal character in the game. Plus I really like playing as a non mage Hawke because my Hawkes always stay neutral to the events in Kirkwall and Hawke involving in the war and siding with the mages just to protect Bethany works for me Gamlen is the LEAST normal? Racist sexist jerk with a gambling addiction is the LEAST normal? You most not live in the Midwest/Southern united States Being a common sight in the society is not being normal. If they're being treated with disdain amongst the community they're not normal
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Post by phoray on Jun 11, 2017 22:05:04 GMT
Gamlen is the LEAST normal? Racist sexist jerk with a gambling addiction is the LEAST normal? You most not live in the Midwest/Southern united States Being a common sight in the society is not being normal. If they're being treated with disdain amongst the community they're not normal It's not normal for them to be so verbal about it around company that would differ from their opinion. However, he is only sharing his opinions with family ( as far as we see). Additionally, his racism IS societally accepted. I have plenty of experience with family feeling comfortable enough to let their worst flaws hang out. I do the same with them, except my flaws do not include racism and sexism, thankfully. Alcoholism and gambling addictions usually aren't something but immediate family know about- only the fact that he was an Amell that lost his ancestral home to his addiction is what garnered him city attention regarding his "problem." The only disdain we really hear about is at the beginning, when we arrive in Kirkwall and we ask for the guard to contact our Noble Uncle. Otherwise, the only disdain against Gamlen that we the players see is the very disdain we have our Hawkes show (and maybe Carver?) But that is us with our modern thoughts of equality for the most part. Thing is, all you said in your OP was that Bethany was a breath of fresh air for being normal and not outlandishly heroic. And although I get the impression he wouldn't go out and save a puppy, or even stand up against the establishment to keep Bethany from the Templar, try not to forget these few things. He risked jail to harbor an apostate. And Two, that when Leandra went missing, he went to search for her alone. That she could have come into bandits or some other violence was on his mind, yet he was not afraid to seek her out and attempt to protect her from it. Gamlen represents his slice of normal very well.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 11, 2017 23:14:27 GMT
*shrugs* I'm not impressed with her but I don't hate her. The game makes you pick a sibling based on class, and I've played mages just to get Carver at this point. Normality is fairly well represented by Hawke's uncle, Gamlin, and mother, Leandra. Karin?/Karas? The Templar you save represents pretty well additionally. Lol Gamlen is the least normal character in the game. Plus I really like playing as a non mage Hawke because my Hawkes always stay neutral to the events in Kirkwall and Hawke involving in the war and siding with the mages just to protect Bethany works for me Gamlen's quite "normal", believe me! I know many such a people... They don't realize, that they would be homophobic, racist, whateverist, in fact, most of them even deny it, they just make jokes. Someone of them alcoholics, who think, he just likes to drink, there is nothing wrong with it. After all, they also deserve some good things in their life ... And perhaps they lose their whole family. Gamlen's a lucky bastard with Hawke... I admit, I can like his character, because so normal... Non-mage Hawke really involving, if Bethany's Circle Mage. Much more than mage Hawke, who need only care about him/herself to avoid the Templars. But Bethany inside the hell...
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Post by melbella on Jun 12, 2017 2:42:33 GMT
I messed up Sutherland's quest line again!
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Post by phoray on Jun 12, 2017 4:46:50 GMT
Loaded up the old Varas and, go figure, I didn't like him in the cut scenes as much as I thought I did based off his screen shots. So pulled up new Varas, tweaked him one more time, and I think I'm good. Almost took his beak like nose away then decided, what the hell, it'll be the one flaw of his model face. Will have to upload some pics tomorrow.
Running around telling people I'm Andraste touched feels a little absurd, but I'm never going to pick those lines again. This is my Maker Praying Templar, he gets all the religious dialogue choices.
He thought Sera was funny and likely useful, so he signed her on.
Blackwall was a given. Not that he idolizes the Wardens. Just respects them.
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not feeling a spark between anyone and him but Sera! I know. Too bad, Varas, she doesn't swing that way. I wonder if it's the fact that I intend to romance her next and I'm just generally fond of her.
Looking forward to Dorian, too bad Varas won't meet him until the Haven Attack. Bright side is Calpernia as the General. Sick of Samson. Ugh. too bad his hanging in DA2 didn't stick. Other bright side is that Varas would have refused Cole, but since they'll hang out together in his head, he'll trust him enough to keep him.
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Post by cmoe on Jun 12, 2017 4:58:04 GMT
Loaded up the old Varas and, go figure, I didn't like him in the cut scenes as much as I thought I did based off his screen shots. So pulled up new Varas, tweaked him one more time, and I think I'm good. Almost took his beak like nose away then decided, what the hell, it'll be the one flaw of his model face. Will have to upload some pics tomorrow. Running around telling people I'm Andraste touched feels a little absurd, but I'm never going to pick those lines again. This is my Maker Praying Templar, he gets all the religious dialogue choices. He thought Sera was funny and likely useful, so he signed her on. Blackwall was a given. Not that he idolizes the Wardens. Just respects them. I thought he was going to turn down Viv because she reminded him of his mom- but then I guess he didn't ask the right questions or give the wrong answers, because she got signed up :/ really going to risk a Divine Viv PT with this guy. The horror. The start of any DAI game is Cassandra heavy, so it almost feels like the game is encouraging her to be a romance option- especially with the big smiles she gives for the religious dialogue choices. But I know that'll change as soon as we hit Skyhold. I romanced her last PT and she really lacks shine after that. Took a flirt with Cullen to be able to take a selfie not feeling a spark between anyone and him but Sera! I know. Too bad, Varas, she doesn't swing that way. I wonder if it's the fact that I intend to romance her next and I'm just generally fond of her. Looking forward to Dorian, too bad Varas won't meet him until the Haven Attack. Bright side is Calpernia as the General. Sick of Samson. Ugh. too bad his hanging in DA2 didn't stick. Other bright side is that Varas would have refused Cole, but since they'll hang out together in his head, he'll trust him enough to keep him. Out of all my PT's I have yet to run a character who believed they were really a herald. The closest were conflicted on the issue. Most just said uh nope, not it.
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Post by cmoe on Jun 12, 2017 5:02:30 GMT
I deleted my male warden and started a new one. I want a noble so I can make him King! I can't seem to get a single playthrough of any game to keep my interest lately. In all three games I have at least 10 different characters in differing stages of their respective PT's. I think it's time to leave Thedas for a while.
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Post by Lazarillo on Jun 12, 2017 5:19:16 GMT
Out of all my PT's I have yet to run a character who believed they were really a herald. The closest were conflicted on the issue. Most just said uh nope, not it. My canon Quizzie was Andrastian and thus, didn't really see any reason to believe he wasn't (at least at first). He didn't go around boasting about it, and he didn't let it define him, but he kind of took the approach of "well, that would explain a lot".
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Post by Lazarillo on Jun 12, 2017 5:20:59 GMT
I deleted my male warden and started a new one. I want a noble so I can make him King! I can't seem to get a single playthrough of any game to keep my interest lately. In all three games I have at least 10 different characters in differing stages of their respective PT's. I think it's time to leave Thedas for a while. I admit, I'm having a little bit of a hard time with Duran, too. I'm thinking I might bypass Redcliffe and head straight to Orzammar to push things forward on the personal side of his story, because for the game in general, the Dwarf background really isn't doing it for me.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 12, 2017 9:19:21 GMT
I messed up Sutherland's quest line again! um, what happened? * Out of curiosity, I stopped the human mage play midway and returned to main menu. I made a male Lavellan; dang ugly, I couldn't get him the way I want him to be. I played a bit yesterday and stopped at Hinterland. Then I returned to main menu and made a archer female Lavellan. What's all these rush of creating chars? I wanted to see if I run into glitches. For the last few PTs with the old rig, whenever I have to make a new char I had to restart the game in order not to get the 'stuck in Fade' glitch in the beginning. For the last two PT, even that precaution failed but I managed to find a way out in spite of it, as I mentioned in an old post. There was no glitch. The prison cutscene kicked in as it should for the two fresh chars. From this, I can only conclude that in some cases, glitches can be attributed to hardware failure, not software. In my case, I should say the hardware was already showing signs of degradation which led to the faulty reading of game data = glitches.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 9:58:45 GMT
Lol Gamlen is the least normal character in the game. Plus I really like playing as a non mage Hawke because my Hawkes always stay neutral to the events in Kirkwall and Hawke involving in the war and siding with the mages just to protect Bethany works for me Gamlen's quite "normal", believe me! I know many such a people... They don't realize, that they would be homophobic, racist, whateverist, in fact, most of them even deny it, they just make jokes. Someone of them alcoholics, who think, he just likes to drink, there is nothing wrong with it. After all, they also deserve some good things in their life ... And perhaps they lose their whole family. Gamlen's a lucky bastard with Hawke... I admit, I can like his character, because so normal... Non-mage Hawke really involving, if Bethany's Circle Mage. Much more than mage Hawke, who need only care about him/herself to avoid the Templars. But Bethany inside the hell... I get what you're saying but fascist, homophobic etc. people are not normal, common maybe but my definition of normal is; a person who doesn't give themselves away in a crowd by their appearance and beheaviors. Can you really compare the normalness of Bethany, Leandra or Scout Harding to Gamlen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2017 10:00:13 GMT
I'm currently wasting my time in Emerald Graves while waiting for Dorian and Iron Bull to initiate their romance
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Post by Catilina on Jun 12, 2017 10:26:45 GMT
Gamlen's quite "normal", believe me! I know many such a people... They don't realize, that they would be homophobic, racist, whateverist, in fact, most of them even deny it, they just make jokes. Someone of them alcoholics, who think, he just likes to drink, there is nothing wrong with it. After all, they also deserve some good things in their life ... And perhaps they lose their whole family. Gamlen's a lucky bastard with Hawke... I admit, I can like his character, because so normal... Non-mage Hawke really involving, if Bethany's Circle Mage. Much more than mage Hawke, who need only care about him/herself to avoid the Templars. But Bethany inside the hell... I get what you're saying but fascist, homophobic etc. people are not normal, common maybe but my definition of normal is; a person who doesn't give themselves away in a crowd by their appearance and beheaviors. Can you really compare the normalness of Bethany, Leandra or Scout Harding to Gamlen. Sadly, Gamlen's the "normal". He not really homophobic and racist, he represents the ignorant and insensitive majority. As I said: he not really realized, that Bethany, I think, more special. She simply doesn't have flaws. You think, this is normal? (In my eyes her martyrdom's annoying, but undoubtedly brave.) Bethany's too perfect. I suppose this is why many people don't like her, or just consider her boring. She's not really boring, but I can understand these people. Leandra's normal, yes. But she also has prejudices: "an elven slave…" (if Hawke give work to Orana), and flaws: she risks her mage child(ren) whit the fact that she insists on going to Kirkwall, when the know, that Kirkwall's the region's Templar base. She blames Hawke for Bethany/Carver's death, and spoke about arranged marriage (true, finally accepts Hawke's choice). I don't blame her, her homesick understandable, and these flaws make her "normal". We know about scout Harding only a few things.
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Post by Iddy on Jun 12, 2017 11:44:28 GMT
I started over my DAO run for the 50th time. Why? Because I realized my Warden's eye color isn't the same shade of brown as Kieran's. I'm actually that nitpicky.
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Post by melbella on Jun 12, 2017 13:14:41 GMT
I messed up Sutherland's quest line again! um, what happened?
I picked the wrong option on the Test of Mettle WT op but didn't talk with Sutherland again until hours and hours of Exalted Plains later, and I am NOT doing that part over.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Jun 12, 2017 13:24:31 GMT
I picked the wrong option on the Test of Mettle WT op but didn't talk with Sutherland again until hours and hours of Exalted Plains later, and I am NOT doing that part over.
yeeech, my sympathies. I'm always careful even though I've played DAI many times. * Fiddle diddle with the male Lavellan. Still not what I want but somewhat close; his neck look rather weird. I was considering putting him in the Raven mage clothing but decided not to on account of *flap flap* arms. I put him in the BM version of rogue armor and his arms look better.
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Post by phoray on Jun 12, 2017 13:30:06 GMT
Varas Trevelyan. Captured 3 smiles, a concerned, and an angry WTF face. He likes a strong woman when he sees one. No spark though. He's bisexual, and sometimes he makes straight men uncomfortable anyway. Hence the huge grin. Aww, that little bump on his nose adds charm. Honestly likes Sera right off the bat. Blackwall seems especially serious, but if he's committed to ending the Breach and finding the Divine's murderer then he's welcome to join. Amusingly, Blackwall promises that no warden was involved in the death of the Divine. hahaha And, of course, he is very angry with the minion punching a Chantry Sister.
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