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Post by Catilina on Jun 14, 2017 22:05:13 GMT
I investigated a bit further. His dialogue once imprisoned shows remorse. I also imagine my guy to be adamantly against murder/execution. It's for the Maker to decide- even Sten was imprisoned. It's just too bad I can't imprison across the board for everyone. Ruth will get the Chantry outcome but Florianne can't be imprisoned. So she can serve the Chantry too. Prison and chantry for everyone! Your inquisitor is more forgiving than mine. Once I saw that Denam had advance knowledge of what the Red Lyrium did, I had no problem executing him or handing him over to the templars he betrayed. To be honest I never did this quest-line. SO: I don't know, what exactly he did. But seems good decision to let him to the Templars' mercy.
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Post by cmoe on Jun 14, 2017 22:13:21 GMT
Your inquisitor is more forgiving than mine. Once I saw that Denam had advance knowledge of what the Red Lyrium did, I had no problem executing him or handing him over to the templars he betrayed. To be honest I never did this quest-line. SO: I don't know, what exactly he did. But seems good decision to let him to the Templars' mercy. Basically if you find evidence his story starts to change. Though I do suppose it could still be madness from red lyrium, that could be debatable. It's probably easier to just put the wikia description of what happens: "while Denam defends his actions by stating that he only did "as [he] was told. However if Denam's quarters were broken into and the evidence of Denam's advance knowledge of the dangers of red lyrium along with the body of the Knight-Vigilant were found, Denam will then change his defense. Stating to the Inquisition that he served a greater power, and accuses all present that none of them would have been fool enough to deny it. He then demands justice, which the Inquisitor happily gave him."
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Post by Warrick on Jun 14, 2017 23:06:37 GMT
I bought the GOTY edition and installed it!
My idea was to play each DLC with a different character. Just to give the Inquisitor an extra motivation. I don't expect any difference beyond a detail or two acknowledging your race. - Human for hakkon, - Dwarf for descent, - Elf for trespasser.
Any thoughts?
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Post by phoray on Jun 14, 2017 23:10:01 GMT
I investigated a bit further. His dialogue once imprisoned shows remorse. I also imagine my guy to be adamantly against murder/execution. It's for the Maker to decide- even Sten was imprisoned. It's just too bad I can't imprison across the board for everyone. Ruth will get the Chantry outcome but Florianne can't be imprisoned. So she can serve the Chantry too. Prison and chantry for everyone! Your inquisitor is more forgiving than mine. Once I saw that Denam had advance knowledge of what the Red Lyrium did, I had no problem executing him or handing him over to the templars he betrayed. Did you execute everyone then? The Mayor for drowning the villagers and the Madame for selling villagers into slavery and experimental fodder with a high death rate? A lot of the people who committed their crimes in DAI did so with full knowledge.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 14, 2017 23:10:59 GMT
I bought the GOTY edition and installed it! My idea was to play each DLC with a different character. Just to give the Inquisitor an extra motivation. I don't expect any difference beyond a detail or two acknowledging your race. - Human for hakkon, - Dwarf for descent, - Elf for trespasser. Any thoughts? And do not forget to create one – Qunari for fun...
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Post by cmoe on Jun 14, 2017 23:22:25 GMT
Your inquisitor is more forgiving than mine. Once I saw that Denam had advance knowledge of what the Red Lyrium did, I had no problem executing him or handing him over to the templars he betrayed. Did you execute everyone then? The Mayor for drowning the villagers and the Madame for selling villagers into slavery and experimental fodder with a high death rate? A lot of the people who committed their crimes in DAI did so with full knowledge. It depended on my PT and my mangled attempts at RPing. I don't usually execute too many of them. I gave the Mayor to the grey wardens just like I gave Denam to the Templars. I think I get where you are going though. Like me, my inquisitors sometimes let their personnel feelings get in the way. I've really tried harder to RP a character and stick to how I see them making decisions through a whole PT. It's actually why I like this thread in particular. I like how some people seem really good at RPing their characters. I've noticed yours in particular are well thought out and you seem to get into the characters head.
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 0:40:23 GMT
I bought the GOTY edition and installed it! My idea was to play each DLC with a different character. Just to give the Inquisitor an extra motivation. I don't expect any difference beyond a detail or two acknowledging your race. - Human for hakkon, - Dwarf for descent, - Elf for trespasser. Any thoughts? No no no. Elf for Hakkon! Elf for Trespasser too. But yeah, definitely dwarf for Descent. Qunari is pretty good for Trespasser too. Oddly enough, human is lame for everything, but being Andraste gives you a boost. Devout Dalish Elf for Hakkon + Trespasser FIRST Devout Andrastian Qunari for base game and Trespasser Evil Dwarf for Descent. Thing is, if you lack understanding about being a Dalish elf, it makes the feelings about what you learn pretty muted. if you do get them, go Dalish. If you don't get them, go Andraste Qunari!
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Post by Catilina on Jun 15, 2017 0:46:00 GMT
I bought the GOTY edition and installed it! My idea was to play each DLC with a different character. Just to give the Inquisitor an extra motivation. I don't expect any difference beyond a detail or two acknowledging your race. - Human for hakkon, - Dwarf for descent, - Elf for trespasser. Any thoughts? No no no. Elf for Hakkon! Elf for Trespasser too. But yeah, definitely dwarf for Descent. Qunari is pretty good for Trespasser too. Oddly enough, human is lame for everything, but being Andraste gives you a boost. Devout Dalish Elf for Hakkon + Trespasser FIRST Devout Andrastian Qunari for base game and Trespasser Evil Dwarf for Descent. Thing is, if you lack understanding about being a Dalish elf, it makes the feelings about what you learn pretty muted. if you do get them, go Dalish. If you don't get them, go Andraste Qunari! Human for the Chantry choices, the Mage–Templar war. Just as human you can be an ex-Circle Mage or a Templar-aspirant. (And yes, you can imagine an Andrastian elf/qunari/dwarf too.)
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 0:49:51 GMT
No no no. Elf for Hakkon! Elf for Trespasser too. But yeah, definitely dwarf for Descent. Qunari is pretty good for Trespasser too. Oddly enough, human is lame for everything, but being Andraste gives you a boost. Devout Dalish Elf for Hakkon + Trespasser FIRST Devout Andrastian Qunari for base game and Trespasser Evil Dwarf for Descent. Thing is, if you lack understanding about being a Dalish elf, it makes the feelings about what you learn pretty muted. if you do get them, go Dalish. If you don't get them, go Andraste Qunari! Human for the Chantry choices, the Mage–Templar war. Just as human you can be an ex-Circle Mage or a Templar-aspirant. That's just a background. Any kind of character can have a feeling about the Mage Templar war. Ex circle mage could just as well be Viv fan and consider themselves "last of the loyal mages". And Dalish elf mage can be super pro mage freedom easy. So what can human give that Dalish or Qunari mage doesn't give except no racism?
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Post by Catilina on Jun 15, 2017 0:59:42 GMT
Human for the Chantry choices, the Mage–Templar war. Just as human you can be an ex-Circle Mage or a Templar-aspirant. That's just a background. Any kind of character can have a feeling about the Mage Templar war. Ex circle mage could just as well be Viv fan and consider themselves "last of the loyal mages". And Dalish elf mage can be super pro mage freedom easy. So what can human give that Dalish or Qunari mage doesn't give except no racism? I feel closer to the these problems as a human. As elf/qunari/dwarf, you can be Andrastian, and somehow interested in the mage–templar war, but not so involved, that an ex-Circle Mage, and a Templar aspirant, or for example a pious Trevelyan, who wanted to be a Chantry Sister as girl.
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Post by melbella on Jun 15, 2017 2:00:39 GMT
Didn't intend to fight Stormy but she spotted me hanging around her swamp and got grumpy. So, obligatory dragon butt shot.
(Refrains from posting any Dorian-mance pics so as to not spoil phoray )
Edit: I posted some in the Dorian thread.
In other news at the ball.... Making an entrance (or two)
Looking for clues in the royal wing The head scratching just cracks me up
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 2:20:28 GMT
melbellaAwww, thanks. Also, the "blood lotus" on your dragon butt is what made me laugh.
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Post by melbella on Jun 15, 2017 4:49:27 GMT
Not sure why this happens, but it seems to only happen to Marcus. Post-romance lock-in scene, he keeps forgetting to put his armor back on before heading out to kill stuff.
Chat with Kieran
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Post by cmoe on Jun 15, 2017 4:55:37 GMT
Not sure why this happens, but it seems to only happen to Marcus. Post-romance lock-in scene, he keeps forgetting to put his armor back on before heading out to kill stuff. What a b@d@ss! Doesn't need armor getting in his way. Or too flustered from the good loving?
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Post by Ean'Harel on Jun 15, 2017 8:18:39 GMT
Not sure why this happens, but it seems to only happen to Marcus. Post-romance lock-in scene, he keeps forgetting to put his armor back on before heading out to kill stuff.
Been there, done that, got the pyjamas (and possibly a new scar or two) Funnily enough it took me a while to notice, because my skyhold armor looked very similar to my real one. Eventually I twigged that my coat wings weren't flapping awesomely behind me as they usually did, and that I was roleplaying as the naked rogue. Dorian didn't seem to mind.
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 15, 2017 9:44:27 GMT
Didn't intend to fight Stormy but she spotted me hanging around her swamp and got grumpy. So, obligatory dragon butt shot. Buttshot! *puts stamp of approval* Mention of buttshot reminded me of Spork. I miss him I still hope I'll catch him on Origin and tell him we all migrated here.
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Post by Warrick on Jun 15, 2017 10:40:35 GMT
I didn't fight any dragon in my vanilla run. I think I share with many the bad newbie experience of the Hinterlands dragon wiping out the party in 2 seconds I avoided them like L4D2 witches from then on. Maybe it's time to gear up and go to town. Is any of the extra stuff in the GOTY edition helpful for dragons?
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Post by Rascoth on Jun 15, 2017 10:49:29 GMT
I didn't fight any dragon in my vanilla run. I think I share with many the bad newbie experience of the Hinterlands dragon wiping out the party in 2 seconds I avoided them like L4D2 witches from then on. Maybe it's time to gear up and go to town. Hah, she's probably the worst of the bunch (only Vinsomer can give her any competition) Except for better gear and materials from DLCs... I don't think so.
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 12:42:13 GMT
That's just a background. Any kind of character can have a feeling about the Mage Templar war. Ex circle mage could just as well be Viv fan and consider themselves "last of the loyal mages". And Dalish elf mage can be super pro mage freedom easy. So what can human give that Dalish or Qunari mage doesn't give except no racism? I feel closer to the these problems as a human. As elf/qunari/dwarf, you can be Andrastian, and somehow interested in the mage–templar war, but not so involved, that an ex-Circle Mage, and a Templar aspirant, or for example a pious Trevelyan, who wanted to be a Chantry Sister as girl.But oh how much more bitter would they be if it were a devout Qunari who would never be given a chance based on race, and so had to turn towards merc work? How euphoric that the MAker chose them to bare the mark.
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Post by melbella on Jun 15, 2017 12:44:28 GMT
Didn't intend to fight Stormy but she spotted me hanging around her swamp and got grumpy. So, obligatory dragon butt shot. Buttshot! *puts stamp of approval* Mention of buttshot reminded me of Spork. I miss him I still hope I'll catch him on Origin and tell him we all migrated here.Me too. He'll hopefully reappear someday.
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 16:07:49 GMT
I had exhausted all the dialogue with Dorian. So, did as melbella suggested and did the WT mission to unlock Dorian's side quest. 2 dead Venatori later, I go back to Skyhold and I get the Talking about Felix Scene. This is interesting, because I met the man, then left that mission after he got the paper. The game doesn't recognize half doing it, I suppose, so then my guy acts like they never met. Then the scene where Giselle gives you the letter. Also, being oblivious, which was kinda funny. "I have something to discuss with you about the Tevinter." Me, knowing she has a bad opinion of him: "Nothing good, I expect." Her, subtlety flying over her head. "yes, well, we can discuss our doubts about him at another time." Who honestly thought sneaking Dorian to meet his parents was a good idea? I have yet to take it as an option. Maybe...someone who didn't like Dorian but wanted to do this favor on behalf of the House Pavus, but it's questionable winning any favor there would matter if you live in Southern Thedas. Played the Scene with his dad twice. I remember being super affected by this scene the third time I played it, of all times. I really connected with that character, maybe that's why. Anywho. Standing in the window at SKyhold afterward, I was bummed to find that the flirt line isn't even as good as the non flirt line. "I think it was brave." is a way better line. But I got my first -kishes- with Dorian and it did seem to cheer him up. I wish it has been a more slow firm kinda kiss instead of the mini makeout. A slow kiss would have been kinda like- uncertain moving in, then a strong pressing, then a pulling away. Instead of the "Muah----- muah muah muah....mauh muah!" I guess I felt underwhelmed. Maybe I've been his friend too long. Dialogue was excellent to push Varas towards the Templar Specialization. His mother would have wanted him to become a Champion but he was delaying any training, waiting for a sign. Afterward, Giselle came round to break us up (oh, hello Wynne 2.0. Didn't see ya there.) I found this scene absurd and insulting when I wasn't dating Dorian. As the man, a noble man no less, dating Dorian, I felt the first twinklings of RP concern. He is standing up in public as a representative of the Inquisition. His first priority is full commitment to the burden of his responsibilities as the Inquisitor. And although he'd initially had a bit of concern about where Dorian came from, Dorian himself had smoothed those concerns. But no one else has had this experience with him. No one else, certainly, has gotten close enough to kiss him and smell him. And want him. He admits to himself, and to Dorian, that Dorian has some undue influence over him. Is it selfish to ignore the concerns of the masses in this critical time fighting against Corypheus? So, he's feeling a bit unsure. And he goes and talks to all the Warrior Trainers (after I find where the hell they are, bejeebus). He feels pretty committed to going the Templar route. Then because I'm up there, I stop by Cullen and that's when he has his big talk about his lyrium withdrawal issues. Well. Templar spec not...quite...as alluring now eh.... So, it's interesting. I've apparently crafted a man not quite worthy of Dorian considering he's having doubts about continuing the relationship. Dragging his feet about not meeting his own mother's expectations about the clothes he wears, the horse he rides, the furniture she picked for his Skyhold Castle (ugh, Orlesian), the Templar Training he's wanted since childhood, and the lover he's taking on. Usually, becoming Inquisitor is my character's turning point. But it seems another event will have to do it. Maybe the Winter Palace? Seeing Celene and Briala together might do it.
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 16:25:26 GMT
melbellaWhen do I know he'll dance with my Quiz at the Winter Palace? Every other romance, the repeat kiss scenes didn't happen until after the romance was locked so I'm a bit confused to be able to do them now.
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Post by Catilina on Jun 15, 2017 16:28:25 GMT
melbella When do I know he'll dance with my Quiz at the Winter Palace? Every other romance, the repeat kiss scenes didn't happen until after the romance was locked so I'm a bit confused to be able to do them now. I suppose if you gave him the amulet before the ball.
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Post by melbella on Jun 15, 2017 18:23:28 GMT
melbella When do I know he'll dance with my Quiz at the Winter Palace? Every other romance, the repeat kiss scenes didn't happen until after the romance was locked so I'm a bit confused to be able to do them now. I suppose if you gave him the amulet before the ball. We've just been talking about this over in the Dorian thread. I was able to get the dialogue option at the ball to ask about a dance before giving him the amulet ( phoray, the amulet is the next personal quest, romance only, which you haven't triggered yet) but I don't know if the dance would actually be available. I didn't play that far into it. I think it would be, if you get the dialogue about it first, but I don't want to say for sure without doing it myself.
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Post by phoray on Jun 15, 2017 18:52:38 GMT
Got the Dorian Amulet quest. Realized it was another political scheme like Josie's and was rolling my eyes when I saw a dialogue option for human noble. Jumped in, and won the day by threatening to ruin the Orlesian Noble's reputation with the clout of House Trevelyan. Yaaaaay~ no regrets there.
But then Dorian was quite cross with me. He's a fiesty one, ain't he? Banter with him is excellent, quite lively.
And just like that, 2 dead Venatori and an amulet later, he says to visit my Chambers for something interesting. I follow through, kinda knowing what comes next and feeling like this was too easy and too fast.
Amusingly enough, I see the option to "slow things down". Does that option end the relationship? I really wanted to use it.
So we sleep together. And I lock the relationship. It was very sweet.
But all too fast, so I reloaded to the Dorian Amulet quest. Give him the Amulet. Then decide I'll risk the Winter Palace.
I want to RP that after seeing Celene and Briala reconnect that he'll finally embrace Dorian completely "darn the consequences.". Have a dance. THEN sleep together.
But it would be nice to RP the "slow down" option prior to. Anyone know?
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