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Post by cmoe on Aug 1, 2017 16:38:58 GMT
No, I don't remember having any issues or needing to tweak anything. I may not be that observant though I would notice naked people running around. :amirite: That was a great, unintentional moment! Do you remember if Improved Atmosphere changed anything about that scene? Perhaps different clothes for the freed humans? Most likely mod conflict in my case. (And I do use a whole bunch of mods!)It's been a while now but not that I recall. I think I like your oops atmosphere though.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 1, 2017 16:49:49 GMT
Nanaya completed her adventures in the Brecilian forest. She admired the ability of these elves to live independently of humans. Their culture, however, was quite different from what she was raised with in the alienage. The various elven gods they worshipped were different from what she was raised with. The valluslin with which they permanently marked their faces made some of them, particularly Keeper Zathrian, look a bit sinister. With their aravels, they were eternal wanderers, though this was out of necessity. The elves no longer had a homeland and the Dalish were, forever, under threat from hostile humans. Right now, she could empathize. Nanaya and Alistair were wanderers as well and would remain so until the Blight was ended - or Loghain's cronies finally caught up with them. Gamer Note: A good part of this game has involved trying to customize things to my liking. That, however, has proved a bit difficult here. I installed Improved Atmosphere which put many of the Dalish in a more distinctive but rather ugly-looking armor. It doesn't look like the DA2 Dalish or the DAI Dalish. I kind of liked the Dalish outfits in DAI except for the barefeet. (Warriors, in particular, should not be barefoot.) The only mod change I made which I'm satisfied with is changing Zathrian out of what look like Circle robes. Somewhere along the way, however, something I did screwed with the Valuslin. Now many of the Dalish have a dirty, smudgy look. Oh well... After this PT, will study modding in a more in depth way so that I know what I'm doing next time. Back to the PT, Nanaya went into the forest in search of Witherfang. She could tell, however, that Zathrian was hiding something. When she encountered Danyla, the elf that had been turned into a werewolf by the curse, Danyla strongly hinted that there were things Zathrian wasn't telling her; that the werewolves had regained their minds. Unfortunately, Danyla was obsessed with ending her life and forced Nanaya to kill her before she could answer all her questions. (I'm always annoyed at the "Danyla Dilemma!") Along the way, they fight and kill many werewolves, but at least one of them has the ability to talk. (I really wish I could lift the curse - and still kill Swiftrunner!) When they reach the old ruins where the werewolves have their lair, a more sensible werewolf asks for a "parley" with a spirit they refer to only as "the lady." Nanaya agrees and meets the "Lady of the Forest" who tells her of Zathrian's curse and his refusal to release them from the curse. Given her own history, Nanaya can sympathize with Zathrian's desire for revenge against the humans who killed and raped his son and daughter. But those who were guilty of those crimes died generations ago. Their descendants should not have to suffer the curse - except for Swiftrunner, of course. She agrees to bring Zathrian to them to talk about ending the curse. Zathrian comes but his hatred for the Weres is too much and he attacks. After a fierce battle, however, he has had enough. To save his clan, he agrees to lift the curse even though it means he will finally die as will the Lady. Gamer Note: After the curse is lifted, the werewolves transform into humans - who are totally naked! Likely the result of the Natural Bodies mod combined with Improved Atmosphere. I'm not sure if this is what Improved Atmosphere intended, but it is what actually makes sense! Nanaya doesn't ask for any reward from the humans; she cringes to think where they might've kept valuables! Nanaya returns to the Dalish Camp and Keeper Lanaya (aka Ashley Williams) pledges Dalish support to the GWs. Now on to Denerim to pick up some newly-crafted armor from Wade, to check in on Brother Genitivi, and to take care of some other business. I find it quite easy to break DAO with mods - much more than with the other games. I had the smudgy faces on some Dalish characters too - it probably was some tattoo mod, I have accidently installed with some other mod. Since I did have to do a clean install after I broke my game (again) by testing a mod for someone, I was a bit careful and tried to stay away from tattoos that override existing tattoos. For face textures, you sometimes have to install tattoo textures, but they don't normally show up in the CC. The naked werewolves are funny though. I had naked wardens once, because when you install Wardens of Ferelden and load a game, where Duncan is still alive, he and Alistair will appear naked
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Post by deadlydwarf on Aug 1, 2017 17:12:13 GMT
Nanaya completed her adventures in the Brecilian forest. She admired the ability of these elves to live independently of humans. Their culture, however, was quite different from what she was raised with in the alienage. The various elven gods they worshipped were different from what she was raised with. The valluslin with which they permanently marked their faces made some of them, particularly Keeper Zathrian, look a bit sinister. With their aravels, they were eternal wanderers, though this was out of necessity. The elves no longer had a homeland and the Dalish were, forever, under threat from hostile humans. Right now, she could empathize. Nanaya and Alistair were wanderers as well and would remain so until the Blight was ended - or Loghain's cronies finally caught up with them. Gamer Note: A good part of this game has involved trying to customize things to my liking. That, however, has proved a bit difficult here. I installed Improved Atmosphere which put many of the Dalish in a more distinctive but rather ugly-looking armor. It doesn't look like the DA2 Dalish or the DAI Dalish. I kind of liked the Dalish outfits in DAI except for the barefeet. (Warriors, in particular, should not be barefoot.) The only mod change I made which I'm satisfied with is changing Zathrian out of what look like Circle robes. Somewhere along the way, however, something I did screwed with the Valuslin. Now many of the Dalish have a dirty, smudgy look. Oh well... After this PT, will study modding in a more in depth way so that I know what I'm doing next time. Back to the PT, Nanaya went into the forest in search of Witherfang. She could tell, however, that Zathrian was hiding something. When she encountered Danyla, the elf that had been turned into a werewolf by the curse, Danyla strongly hinted that there were things Zathrian wasn't telling her; that the werewolves had regained their minds. Unfortunately, Danyla was obsessed with ending her life and forced Nanaya to kill her before she could answer all her questions. (I'm always annoyed at the "Danyla Dilemma!") Along the way, they fight and kill many werewolves, but at least one of them has the ability to talk. (I really wish I could lift the curse - and still kill Swiftrunner!) When they reach the old ruins where the werewolves have their lair, a more sensible werewolf asks for a "parley" with a spirit they refer to only as "the lady." Nanaya agrees and meets the "Lady of the Forest" who tells her of Zathrian's curse and his refusal to release them from the curse. Given her own history, Nanaya can sympathize with Zathrian's desire for revenge against the humans who killed and raped his son and daughter. But those who were guilty of those crimes died generations ago. Their descendants should not have to suffer the curse - except for Swiftrunner, of course. She agrees to bring Zathrian to them to talk about ending the curse. Zathrian comes but his hatred for the Weres is too much and he attacks. After a fierce battle, however, he has had enough. To save his clan, he agrees to lift the curse even though it means he will finally die as will the Lady. Gamer Note: After the curse is lifted, the werewolves transform into humans - who are totally naked! Likely the result of the Natural Bodies mod combined with Improved Atmosphere. I'm not sure if this is what Improved Atmosphere intended, but it is what actually makes sense! Nanaya doesn't ask for any reward from the humans; she cringes to think where they might've kept valuables! Nanaya returns to the Dalish Camp and Keeper Lanaya (aka Ashley Williams) pledges Dalish support to the GWs. Now on to Denerim to pick up some newly-crafted armor from Wade, to check in on Brother Genitivi, and to take care of some other business. I find it quite easy to break DAO with mods - much more than with the other games. I had the smudgy faces on some Dalish characters too - it probably was some tattoo mod, I have accidently installed with some other mod. Since I did have to do a clean install after I broke my game (again) by testing a mod for someone, I was a bit careful and tried to stay away from tattoos that override existing tattoos. For face textures, you sometimes have to install tattoo textures, but they don't normally show up in the CC. The naked werewolves are funny though. I had naked wardens once, because when you install Wardens of Ferelden and load a game, where Duncan is still alive, he and Alistair will appear naked cmoe20 Sometimes mod conflicts produce better results than if the mod worked properly! In the case of the werewolves, they certainly ran around naked in wolf form. It doesn't make sense that in transforming to humans, they would be wearing clothes they never physically put on. That all the naked males were happy to see my female elf was rather embarassing though... Another weird IA related also occurred in the Brecilian forest. When I came across the blood mages, many were wearing DA-inspired blood mage/apostate outfits. I ran into one who had Hawke's armor and was wearing a hood, but HAD NO FACE! One could head canon something about the ill effects of blood magic on its practitioners, but I did find the problem back on IA website and got the faces back. fylimar I thought about the tat mods too. Some of the face mods I installed required installation of tat mods. I removed some, but no effect. I definitely have to read up the literature on mods to figure out what causes conflicts before I do a reinstall after this PT!
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire
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Post by fylimar on Aug 1, 2017 17:15:26 GMT
fylimar I think the Solasmance makes the Inquisitor's dilemma at the end of Trespasser all the more poignant. Your Dalish elf yearns for the old ways of Arlathan. Solas is the one elf who can truly tell you about Arlathan and all the misconceptions the elves have about the past. Then to find out at the very end how Solas wishes to restore that world.... Does your Dalish Inquisitor stand with Solas or oppose him, along with the massive number of elves who appear to support him? Nope, Lyana won't help him - Arlathan or not, he is trying genocide and Lyana is not cold hearted enough to help him with that for some long lost homeland-fantasy. She isn't about getting the old ways back, but rather finding a new place in the world, preferrable one, where she can be with her elven family and her human/dwarven/non-elfy elven/Qunari friends. Most of my inquis didn't outright hate Solas and scream at him and swear revenge. They normally try to convince him to see the good in the world today and since he says something along the line that he loved to be proven wrong, they try to change his mind, as long as it is possible. Lyana will be no different, even though she believes in the old gods and will not be thrilled about him being Fen'Harel. But everyone deserves a chance, even an old trickster god, so she will try to convince him to leave Thedas be. She will however stop him by any means necessary, if he goes through with his plan to bring down the veil. He will stop being a friend and start becoming an enemy at that point. Because what benefit would bring her the fact, that she might develope magic and become immortal, when all her friends are dead and gone. So basically, she is rooted in Dalish culture and will always like it, but she has seen enough during her adventures with the inquisition to know, that her people are no more important or better than humans, dwarves or Qunari. The first person, she developed full friendship (long before Solas) was Dorian, a human. The second person was Varric, a dwarf, the third Iron Bull, Qunari - which showed her that race and background doesn't matter at all. Don't know, if that answers your question, but Lyana is not traditionalist enough to stand with Solas for a homeland, she never knew and against people that became much more important to her than said homeland. I'm far more eager to find out, what egg has to say, when his beloved allows the wardens to stay
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Post by fylimar on Aug 1, 2017 17:28:33 GMT
About desire demons: I personally like Mr. Choice Spirit much more. He was much more 'realistic' and subtle than the demon gals. I find it much more believable, that someone falls for Imshael, who looks like a normal guy and helps you to get what you want, maybe even without really realising what he is (I guess, he was so open with the inqui, because he knew, that inqui knew), than that someone falling for the ladies with the flaming head and the obvious demon tail (among other demon traits) and the stripper attitude. I would like to see the desire demons being someone, the person, they try to seduce, like/lust after. They did it with the fear demon, although I'm not sure, why the inqui should be afraid of spiders of all things, but ok, many people are afraid of spiders and in Thedas probably not without reason. A desire demon trying to get Hawkes soul could pose as Malcolm or the dead sibling for example. A desire demon encountered by Mahariel maybe like Tamlen and so on.l I know, that I complained in another thread, that demons are often not creepy enough, but in the case of desire demons, they should not be creepy and they should be a bit more meaningful than some random alien looking lady with a lot of cleavage - desire doesn't have to be sexual - think of the templar and his dream of a happy family.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 1, 2017 18:29:21 GMT
About desire demons: I personally like Mr. Choice Spirit much more. He was much more 'realistic' and subtle than the demon gals. I find it much more believable, that someone falls for Imshael, who looks like a normal guy and helps you to get what you want, maybe even without really realising what he is (I guess, he was so open with the inqui, because he knew, that inqui knew), than that someone falling for the ladies with the flaming head and the obvious demon tail (among other demon traits) and the stripper attitude. I would like to see the desire demons being someone, the person, they try to seduce, like/lust after. They did it with the fear demon, although I'm not sure, why the inqui should be afraid of spiders of all things, but ok, many people are afraid of spiders and in Thedas probably not without reason. A desire demon trying to get Hawkes soul could pose as Malcolm or the dead sibling for example. A desire demon encountered by Mahariel maybe like Tamlen and so on.l I know, that I complained in another thread, that demons are often not creepy enough, but in the case of desire demons, they should not be creepy and they should be a bit more meaningful than some random alien looking lady with a lot of cleavage - desire doesn't have to be sexual - think of the templar and his dream of a happy family. (Don't forget, that Imshael's a Forbidden One, no a simple desire demon.)
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Post by themikefest on Aug 1, 2017 19:03:17 GMT
In my previous playthrough I romanced Cassandra. Her card looks like what is seen in the image below. She became Divine, but the card stayed the same. I guess that's ok? I figured it would change when she became Divine.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 1, 2017 19:10:27 GMT
In my previous playthrough I romanced Cassandra. Her card looks like what is seen in the image below. She became Divine, but the card stayed the same. I guess that's ok? I figured it would change when she became DivineThe third one? I suppose, yes, but I can't remember on my Divine Cass PT
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Post by Rascoth on Aug 1, 2017 19:11:03 GMT
*casually strolls thru Lothering* Random farmer: That young woman... she looks familiar. Warden: *puts on fake mustache* Random farmer: Nah, nevermind. Warden: That warden is totally not named Bethany I think I'll sooner play her than Tabris.
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Post by themikefest on Aug 1, 2017 19:51:54 GMT
Elizabeth(Lisa) Nancy Trevelyan Her background At the age of 6, Lisa showed signs of being a mage. Her mother knew it was time.Lisa's mother took her into the woods and met a woman wearing black and a cowl covering her head. Her mother said it would be alright and to go with the woman. Tears were running down Lisa's face believing shw would never see her mother again.
She had no idea where the woman took her, but when she arrived at some underground hideaway, the woman removed her cowl revealing long pitch black hair. What scared Lisa was that the woman's eyes were black. She really missed her mother.
For the next 2 years, the woman taught Lisa how to control her powers, when to use them and which power to use at the right time. The woman cared for her, but was firm with Lisa making sure she understood what it was like to be a mage.
After 2 years, Lisa saw her mother again. She turned to the woman and waved by knowing she will see her again. A few months later, she went to the Circle of Ostwick. Right away the First Enchanter noticed how well Lisa was in using her powers. Most of the time she would be found in the library studying. By the time she turned 18, she was very powerful. Even surpassing the First Enchanter. He was concerned how powerful she could be. In that time, Lisa made trips into the forest to meet that woman for guidance.
When Lisa turned 18, she went back to that underground place to see the woman. It was at that time the woman revealed her name, Desdemona. Lisa instantly recognized the name. Desdemona waved a hand that Lisa should not be scared. She led Lisa down into the bowels of the Earth. Finally she stopped. Lisa saw an open area as far as the eye could see. All of sudden rock platforms rose forming stairs. A giant of a man, know as the Smith, approached with a bowl in hand. Desdemona pulled out a knife and asked for Lisa to put out her hand. It was at that point that Lisa realized the same happened to her mother when seeing the scar on her hand. Then a lock of hair. Now she had to choose a head for her staff. Lisa chose a skull.
A few minutes later, loud noises could be heard. The Smith was crafting her a new staff. Every pound shock the area. The final pound was strong enough that it kncked Lisa to the ground.
The Smith, carrying the staff with clamps, gave it to Lisa. As soon as she grabbed it, she cried out in pain. After 10 seconds, all was fine. The staff was tuning itself to Lisa's DNA. The staff itself had her blood flowing and the skull was radiating red. This was her personal staff that no else could use. Now she had to test it. She place it in the ground and stepped back. Within seconds, the undead arose. Each one that touched the staff were turned to ash. Now Lisa had to give it a name. Lisa smiled. Her staff will be known as.....Harbinger. Desdemona was more than pleased. She led Lisa to a wall. The Wall had thousands of staffs hanging on it. Each one different in design. This is where Lisa will keep her staff, and when she comes by to use it for training, it will be there for her to use. Lisa was confused. Desdemona explained that the staff has the power to destroy the world. It would not do any harm as long as its used where they're at. Lisa understood.
Before leaving, Desdemona asked that if Lisa has children, if she has a female child that shows signs of being a mage, send her to Desdemona. Lisa gave her a hug. She never asked about the others who had a staff made for them. She didn't want to know.
Back at the circle, everyone noticed a difference in her. Her power exceeded all the other mages by leaps and bounds. Some feared her. She continued like always, staying in the library to study. At times the other mages could see her outside practicing new spells. She also attracted many templars and mages. She engaged in many affairs, but ended up sticking with 3 lovers. Just before heading to Haven, she cut her hair. Some were shocked she did.
Dispel the spell
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Post by themikefest on Aug 1, 2017 20:03:46 GMT
In my current playthrough, I decided to do everything possible before siding with the mages or templars
I have 87 power points Level 5 with influence Near level 12 with my character Recruited Blackwall, Sera, Vivienne and Iron Bull Recruited all possible agents Collect all shards in Hinterlands, Storm Coast and Forbidden Oasis Open all fire doors and the first cold door Collected all mosaics in the Hinterlands to complete that set. defeated the Frostback dragon closed all rifts in those regions as well the Fallow Mire.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Aug 1, 2017 20:55:18 GMT
fylimar I think the Solasmance makes the Inquisitor's dilemma at the end of Trespasser all the more poignant. Your Dalish elf yearns for the old ways of Arlathan. Solas is the one elf who can truly tell you about Arlathan and all the misconceptions the elves have about the past. Then to find out at the very end how Solas wishes to restore that world.... Does your Dalish Inquisitor stand with Solas or oppose him, along with the massive number of elves who appear to support him? Nope, Lyana won't help him - Arlathan or not, he is trying genocide and Lyana is not cold hearted enough to help him with that for some long lost homeland-fantasy. She isn't about getting the old ways back, but rather finding a new place in the world, preferrable one, where she can be with her elven family and her human/dwarven/non-elfy elven/Qunari friends. Most of my inquis didn't outright hate Solas and scream at him and swear revenge. They normally try to convince him to see the good in the world today and since he says something along the line that he loved to be proven wrong, they try to change his mind, as long as it is possible. Lyana will be no different, even though she believes in the old gods and will not be thrilled about him being Fen'Harel. But everyone deserves a chance, even an old trickster god, so she will try to convince him to leave Thedas be. She will however stop him by any means necessary, if he goes through with his plan to bring down the veil. He will stop being a friend and start becoming an enemy at that point. Because what benefit would bring her the fact, that she might develope magic and become immortal, when all her friends are dead and gone. So basically, she is rooted in Dalish culture and will always like it, but she has seen enough during her adventures with the inquisition to know, that her people are no more important or better than humans, dwarves or Qunari. The first person, she developed full friendship (long before Solas) was Dorian, a human. The second person was Varric, a dwarf, the third Iron Bull, Qunari - which showed her that race and background doesn't matter at all. Don't know, if that answers your question, but Lyana is not traditionalist enough to stand with Solas for a homeland, she never knew and against people that became much more important to her than said homeland. I'm far more eager to find out, what egg has to say, when his beloved allows the wardens to stay None of my Inkys who've romanced Solas ever pledged to his cause either . But it is the dilemma only an elf faces in Trespasser: if you stay true to the Inquisition, you find yourself truly alone: those elves that weren't drawn to Qun appear to be following Solas. And here your elf is with the humans and the Chantry!
As to Solas' hatred of the Wardens, has that ever been explained? I've always wondered if there was any connection between the Old God and the elven gods Solas tricked?
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Post by cmoe on Aug 1, 2017 22:09:59 GMT
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Post by tacsear on Aug 1, 2017 22:19:05 GMT
Nope, Lyana won't help him - Arlathan or not, he is trying genocide and Lyana is not cold hearted enough to help him with that for some long lost homeland-fantasy. She isn't about getting the old ways back, but rather finding a new place in the world, preferrable one, where she can be with her elven family and her human/dwarven/non-elfy elven/Qunari friends. Most of my inquis didn't outright hate Solas and scream at him and swear revenge. They normally try to convince him to see the good in the world today and since he says something along the line that he loved to be proven wrong, they try to change his mind, as long as it is possible. Lyana will be no different, even though she believes in the old gods and will not be thrilled about him being Fen'Harel. But everyone deserves a chance, even an old trickster god, so she will try to convince him to leave Thedas be. She will however stop him by any means necessary, if he goes through with his plan to bring down the veil. He will stop being a friend and start becoming an enemy at that point. Because what benefit would bring her the fact, that she might develope magic and become immortal, when all her friends are dead and gone. So basically, she is rooted in Dalish culture and will always like it, but she has seen enough during her adventures with the inquisition to know, that her people are no more important or better than humans, dwarves or Qunari. The first person, she developed full friendship (long before Solas) was Dorian, a human. The second person was Varric, a dwarf, the third Iron Bull, Qunari - which showed her that race and background doesn't matter at all. Don't know, if that answers your question, but Lyana is not traditionalist enough to stand with Solas for a homeland, she never knew and against people that became much more important to her than said homeland. I'm far more eager to find out, what egg has to say, when his beloved allows the wardens to stay As to Solas' hatred of the Wardens, has that ever been explained? I've always wondered if there was any connection between the Old God and the elven gods Solas tricked?
I thought so too. His plan to remove the Veil may require some raw power which can be found inside the old gods. That's why I'm rethinking the desicion to do the Dark Ritual with Morrigan
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Post by themikefest on Aug 2, 2017 2:39:10 GMT
Somebody had a good time Lets go get the templars Josephine would do well playing the role of villain Isn't the sword suppose to be on the anvil and not in the air?
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire
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Post by fylimar on Aug 2, 2017 5:19:08 GMT
Nope, Lyana won't help him - Arlathan or not, he is trying genocide and Lyana is not cold hearted enough to help him with that for some long lost homeland-fantasy. She isn't about getting the old ways back, but rather finding a new place in the world, preferrable one, where she can be with her elven family and her human/dwarven/non-elfy elven/Qunari friends. Most of my inquis didn't outright hate Solas and scream at him and swear revenge. They normally try to convince him to see the good in the world today and since he says something along the line that he loved to be proven wrong, they try to change his mind, as long as it is possible. Lyana will be no different, even though she believes in the old gods and will not be thrilled about him being Fen'Harel. But everyone deserves a chance, even an old trickster god, so she will try to convince him to leave Thedas be. She will however stop him by any means necessary, if he goes through with his plan to bring down the veil. He will stop being a friend and start becoming an enemy at that point. Because what benefit would bring her the fact, that she might develope magic and become immortal, when all her friends are dead and gone. So basically, she is rooted in Dalish culture and will always like it, but she has seen enough during her adventures with the inquisition to know, that her people are no more important or better than humans, dwarves or Qunari. The first person, she developed full friendship (long before Solas) was Dorian, a human. The second person was Varric, a dwarf, the third Iron Bull, Qunari - which showed her that race and background doesn't matter at all. Don't know, if that answers your question, but Lyana is not traditionalist enough to stand with Solas for a homeland, she never knew and against people that became much more important to her than said homeland. I'm far more eager to find out, what egg has to say, when his beloved allows the wardens to stay None of my Inkys who've romanced Solas ever pledged to his cause either . But it is the dilemma only an elf faces in Trespasser: if you stay true to the Inquisition, you find yourself truly alone: those elves that weren't drawn to Qun appear to be following Solas. And here your elf is with the humans and the Chantry!
As to Solas' hatred of the Wardens, has that ever been explained? I've always wondered if there was any connection between the Old God and the elven gods Solas tricked?
Nah, my Clan doesn't following Mr. Mass Destruction, not in my games, so Lyana isn't alone. plus, she has her friends. About the wardens: Their job is to basically slay old gods, granted, they are corrupted, but still old gods. Maybe Solas has a problem with that. I really don't . Or it is, because they helped making that mess at th conclave. If I remember correctly, Solas only wanted Cory to open the focus, not causing mass destruction and chaos (not that he isn't planning the same basically)
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Post by House Targaryen on Aug 2, 2017 5:33:05 GMT
Had that perv dream with Solas back at Haven. Went to Crestwood, met the warden, retook the castle, took control of the dam and now I'll head to old Crestwood and deal with this big fade rift.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 2, 2017 10:28:49 GMT
None of my Inkys who've romanced Solas ever pledged to his cause either . But it is the dilemma only an elf faces in Trespasser: if you stay true to the Inquisition, you find yourself truly alone: those elves that weren't drawn to Qun appear to be following Solas. And here your elf is with the humans and the Chantry!
As to Solas' hatred of the Wardens, has that ever been explained? I've always wondered if there was any connection between the Old God and the elven gods Solas tricked?
Nah, my Clan doesn't following Mr. Mass Destruction, not in my games, so Lyana isn't alone. plus, she has her friends. About the wardens: Their job is to basically slay old gods, granted, they are corrupted, but still old gods. Maybe Solas has a problem with that. I really don't . Or it is, because they helped making that mess at th conclave. If I remember correctly, Solas only wanted Cory to open the focus, not causing mass destruction and chaos (not that he isn't planning the same basically)He had a plan...
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Post by fylimar on Aug 2, 2017 16:24:43 GMT
Nah, my Clan doesn't following Mr. Mass Destruction, not in my games, so Lyana isn't alone. plus, she has her friends. About the wardens: Their job is to basically slay old gods, granted, they are corrupted, but still old gods. Maybe Solas has a problem with that. I really don't . Or it is, because they helped making that mess at th conclave. If I remember correctly, Solas only wanted Cory to open the focus, not causing mass destruction and chaos (not that he isn't planning the same basically)He had a plan... I'm not sure
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Post by themikefest on Aug 2, 2017 16:26:20 GMT
Lets celebrate Cassandra, the breach is closed AVALANCHE!!!!! Its nice to see everyone walking in the park on a nice day like today
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Post by tacsear on Aug 2, 2017 17:04:12 GMT
I've finished reading The Masked Empire and I have never been shocked this much by a book that I know what happens in its aftermath
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 17:25:37 GMT
I've finished reading The Masked Empire and I have never been shocked this much by a book that I know what happens in its aftermath if i don't recall wrong, it's about the Orlesian civil war right? i don't like Orlais but could be worth reading it? your final statement about the book intrigues me.
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Post by tacsear on Aug 2, 2017 17:34:36 GMT
I've finished reading The Masked Empire and I have never been shocked this much by a book that I know what happens in its aftermath if i don't recall wrong, it's about the Orlesian civil war right? i don't like Orlais but could be worth reading it? your final statement about the book intrigues me. Yes it is. At first I thought it was about courtly inrigue, backstabbings and shit and I love that so I picked it up. The book can be divided into 3 parts and the first part is really politics and I was having a blast, then in the second part it turned into more of an adventure of sorts, which I didn't take very well but it was still engaging, but the last part (especially the end) blew my mind. My biggest issue with the book is that it focuses too much on CelenexBriala relationship and Gaspard is left overshadowed.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 17:52:10 GMT
if i don't recall wrong, it's about the Orlesian civil war right? i don't like Orlais but could be worth reading it? your final statement about the book intrigues me. Yes it is. At first I thought it was about courtly inrigue, backstabbings and shit and I love that so I picked it up. The book can be divided into 3 parts and the first part is really politics and I was having a blast, then in the second part it turned into more of an adventure of sorts, which I didn't take very well but it was still engaging, but the last part (especially the end) blew my mind. My biggest issue with the book is that it focuses too much on CelenexBriala relationship and Gaspard is left overshadowed. I see. Definetly worth to take a look and read it if not all, at least a good portion of it, thanks for the tips.
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Post by fylimar on Aug 2, 2017 18:14:04 GMT
Lyana finally finished the Western Approach, cleared a fortress out, explored the Still Ruins ... and became an artificer (yay)
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