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Post by House Targaryen on Oct 6, 2017 4:47:03 GMT
This isn't "what I did" so much as "what I watched" but pfffff AHAHAHAHA I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING, this is what happens if you flirt with Bull enough to get the ride the bull conversation but then nope right out of it before anything happens. Much awkward, very lol. "You thought I was interested in... sex?" "...You aren't?" "No.""Uh, nevermind. Nice talking with you." You lead him on and then turn him down? Sad, sad. All the flirty girls and bois want to ride the Bull.
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Post by House Targaryen on Oct 6, 2017 5:27:28 GMT
This one is a bit brief. Feel tired so not much gaming after work. Got back from the Deep Roads and headed out to Emprise du Lion. Freed some of the people in the quarry and decided to head up to Suledin Keep and take it back from the Red Templars. Probably do the Fade quest tomorrow. Brief Alexia banter. Could you move out of the picture, Dorian? You're crowding my selfie. Well, Sera isn't here... Give me some virgins. Its been a while since I had some "D". What do you mean you can't find any? Deal off. You die demon. This keep will make for a nice addition to my empire.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 13:39:05 GMT
Day 36: Noob Inquisitor Log
- All right... which wise guy fired a cute merchant guy from Haven in exchange for a dame in a puffy skirt? That business officially stinks and how come I'm not allowed to hire him back. I thought I was the boss. - Caught the hawt blond while he was taking out the garbage. Told him lyrium is magsnifficent if you always wanted to turn into a drooling, mind-rotted ghoul, but I won't date one. He agreed, but wandered why I'm talking to him through a door. Stupid bandit hotel management. How am I suppose to show my face when there's a fist size black eye glowing in the dark. - Received the best monarch letter ever regarding some pesky spies. Normally can't make heads and tails of all those flowery nonsense decorated thingies made up by the royal persons. This one is to the point, sword point. Sent Leli to Denerim with a note: Roses are Red, Violets are Blue. Kings are Smexy, And so are you. Hopefully she'll catch his spies soon and we'll gain some royal favour.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2017 16:54:08 GMT
Poked at DA2 today a bit to do Gamlin's quest. Was being an ass and told his daughter that he isn't worth seeing. Fenris comment about my bad behaviour was the best in the world. He can totally criticize Hawke and sound loving at the same time. Ahh... not to mention that I've followed that earlier advice about coming to see him in the mansion again. Wow... three years pass between those two scenes. Aaaand I found something when I was wandering around. Wait a minute... who builds heroic statues like that? It doesn't look anything like me!
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Post by Psychevore on Oct 6, 2017 18:02:47 GMT
Velriel was up to following the last couple of days: About to do the Western Approach. Do some quests there, get the Keep and do everything for Here Lies the Abyss except Adamant Fortress. Then probably get influence over that Dalish camp so I can get access to their store, mostly for their leathers. Oh, and do Solas' loyalty thingy. But first, some XCOM2 War of the Chosen
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Post by vonuber on Oct 7, 2017 0:09:46 GMT
Subsequent to this, I got the ability to make it rain blood. More DA:I tomorrow I think.
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Post by House Targaryen on Oct 7, 2017 4:49:52 GMT
Eliminated the dragon problem in Emprise du Lion. Put one of my dragon killing staff's to good use against the fire breathing dragon. Its a staff that does cold damage and +50 against dragons. That dragon went down fast when it usually takes me a long time to kill it. Having Dorian use a cold based staff helped out. EDITED. Added some more pics. Cat fight? Ice, ice, baby! Good dragon! Left some dragon fire to warm us up! WTF, Sera? You almost knocked me off the cliff. Must be someone has a big mouth in the party. If this is about that desire demon at the Keep, I was joking when I said I would take the virgins. Besides its not like cheating, it would be with a dude not another girl. Oh talking to your back now? Ugh okay... Sorry about not covering your back, Sera. I was a little busy with that demon.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 7, 2017 6:44:46 GMT
Sooo - I couldn't stay away and started playing Jyoti Hawke again. I gave her a slight makeover, because the mohawk and the tattoo was cool, but you don't want to raise too much attention as an apostate mage in Kirkwall, so she got rid of the tattoo via magic and tried a less attentionraising haircut. Jyoti Hawke Yeah right, because trusting strange horned men in the middle of nowhere is generally considered a great idea .... not Fenris' line always cracks me up in that scene Ok, Merrill, let me explain mugging again... Sure, you can trust us - look at us, we're oozing trust. OK, one is an abomination, who get's all Exorcist when you make him mad, one is a notorius pirate, one an angsty teenager and I'm rather loosing a friend than a good joke, but otehr than that, we're fine ... and still better looking than the Winters Brother and sister When I did Act of Mercy, I had Carver with me this time, and he was very sweet: When Grace tried to defend her bloodthirsty boyfriend, he talked her down by saying, that insane and unstable mages like Decimus and Co are the reason, mages are feared, not mages like his older sister or Bethany. He basically called Jyoti sane and stable - she had tears in her eyes. And yes, that bitch Grace gets back to the circle everytime nowadays, she is such a spoiled brat, even without using player knowledge about her.
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Post by Liadan on Oct 7, 2017 13:41:06 GMT
My Cousland and her gang tried to help a man that was being ambush by some soldiers. Before he died he ask them to return to Ostagar to retrieve a key that Cailan entrusted to him and that would open a chest. They travel to Ostagar, found the key and the chest with some letters from Empress Celene. Later they found Cailan`s body, but before they could do anything they were atacked by an emissarie darkspawn that could raised undead. They fough a lot of darkpawn, entered the lower levels in the Tower of Ishal and found the Emissarie in the place were the battle happenned so long ago. The Emissarie raised the Ogre that had killed Cailan. They were both defeated and the group gave Cailan their last respects. Morrigan discovered that Flemeth prolongued her life by possessing her daughters and ask my warden to help her by defeating Flemeth. My warden agreed and for her surprise she had to fight yet another dragon. Later my Cousland decided to help Levi Dryden restore his family name by finding proof that Sophia Dryden, his grand-grandmother and a warden commander, wasn`t a traitor but a hero. They traveled to Soldier`s Peak and found out that it was claimed by demons. They discovered that the wardens had summoned the demons and in the end Sophia was possessed by one. They talked and fought with the possessed Sophia and found Avernus, the mage that had summoned the demons so long ago. They helped him close the veil and allowed him to continue his research using ethical methods. In the end Levi didn`t found the proof he wanted but he and his family stayed in the fortress and used it for their commerce activities. I always take Shale at least once to Soldier`s Peak after the quest it`s done just to see the crows following her around . Poor Shale can`t get rid of those pesty birds .
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 15:44:18 GMT
Day 37: Noob Inquisitor Log
- While looking for a place to bathe, I found a nifty lake occupied by a huge lizard. All I said was, 'Excuse me. I'm definitely in a wrong place. I'll be sneaking away now.' when it tried to eat me! Too bad a horde of lizardlings that attacked with it weren't still inside the eggs. The omelette could have been great. Will have to content with a purple stick that made Fancy Pants most happy. - Scar Nose skulking around the bushes nearly gave me a heart stroke before he dragged me into some cave to meet this neat pal of his whose name sounds like Strudel. - Whelp, so much for the hope that these super elite guys Hawke's friend mentioned will be able to help me deal with Cory-Wory's little pet problem. It seems going blood-mage is fashionable these days and they're all about to turn into a pack of drooling lunatics. -Entered a lovely area that had no wolves or elite bandits hanging around before realising it's quiet because there is a giant dragon perched up on a wall. Ran like Hell when dragon launched off the perch and began circling the field. Even with the fixed weather, this place is a natural disaster. I'm getting outa here.
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Post by Julale on Oct 7, 2017 20:30:58 GMT
Just a little thought. A minute ago I discovered that Cullen mentions the loss of the Lavellan Clan (Trespasser, I’m playing an Elf) and that he’s sorry. I never heard of this before so I’m quite surprised 😯 that’s nice 🙂😍
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 21:42:54 GMT
The Right of Annulment.
I feel there is a partial misunderstanding going around in regard with what the Annulment does. There is a view that it means literally going into the Circle and slaying every single mage there is on the spot, which is not true. This is more like a jurisdictional function that allows a certain location/building to be evacuated and shut down.
When I played an evil Warden and opted to invoke the Annulment, I also used the litany in a fight with Uldred, allowing Irving and several mages to survive. When I led them out and talked to Gregor again, I've convinced him to invoke this right. This resulted in Irving willingly surrendering his staff to Gregor and the Templars escorting those mages who survived to Denerim for an investigation. In fact, in the course of the discussion, Irving expressed partial consent at the necessity of the action due to the dire circumstances. So, Annulment does not translate as 'slaughter every mage in sight.'
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Post by melbella on Oct 7, 2017 21:53:10 GMT
I think it depends on who invokes it. I won't say more for spoilers but it will come up again and the result is....much different.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 21:58:06 GMT
If it's used differently, this implies that whoever is in charge is abusing/twisting the power and in fact they are not using the Annulment as it's intended to be, which is a criminal action.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 7, 2017 22:01:03 GMT
The Right of Annulment. I feel there is a partial misunderstanding going around in regard with what the Annulment does. There is a view that it means literally going into the Circle and slaying every single mage there is on the spot, which is not true. This is more like a jurisdictional function that allows a certain location/building to be evacuated and shut down. When I played an evil Warden and opted to invoke the Annulment, I also used the litany in a fight with Uldred, allowing Irving and several mages to survive. When I led them out and talked to Gregor again, I've convinced him to invoke this right. This resulted in Irving willingly surrendering his staff to Gregor and the Templars escorting those mages who survived to Denerim for an investigation. In fact, in the course of the discussion, Irving expressed partial consent at the necessity of the action due to the dire circumstances. So, Annulment does not translate as 'slaughter every mage in sight.' Such a grace, such a great man! No! The point is, that they can perform it, anytime, because they have "divine right over the mages" (Cullen), and the mercy only depends on the Knight Commander whim. The Right of Annulment is an inherently evil, just as the Circle in this form.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 22:09:44 GMT
The Right of Annulment. I feel there is a partial misunderstanding going around in regard with what the Annulment does. There is a view that it means literally going into the Circle and slaying every single mage there is on the spot, which is not true. This is more like a jurisdictional function that allows a certain location/building to be evacuated and shut down. When I played an evil Warden and opted to invoke the Annulment, I also used the litany in a fight with Uldred, allowing Irving and several mages to survive. When I led them out and talked to Gregor again, I've convinced him to invoke this right. This resulted in Irving willingly surrendering his staff to Gregor and the Templars escorting those mages who survived to Denerim for an investigation. In fact, in the course of the discussion, Irving expressed partial consent at the necessity of the action due to the dire circumstances. So, Annulment does not translate as 'slaughter every mage in sight.' Such a grace, such a great man! No! The point is, that they can perform it, anytime, because they have "divine right over the mages" (Cullen), and the mercy only depends on the Knight Commander whim. The Right of Annulment is an inherently evil, just as the Circle in this form. No. They cannot perform it 'any time.' There are laws that would hold the one to invoke it responsible and you need nothing short of a global catastrophe to invoke it in order to justify why it was called for before the Divine. No. It does not depend on a mercy whim of whoever's in charge. Gregor was following a correct legal procedure. Saying anyone can do it at the snap of the fingers is oversimplifying the system. The Templars participating in the Annulment also undergo severe screening and trial. They are not allowed to get away with whatever they want. Irving himself agreed that in those circumstances the Annulment was a necessity. He wouldn't have agreed to disarm if it meant that Gregor was going to stab him dead on the spot. Had Gregor killed Irving after the First Enchanter surrendered, he would have been found guilty of murder by the Chantry and punished.
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Post by melbella on Oct 7, 2017 22:20:53 GMT
In theory, sure. Not in practice. The Chantry has laws, yes. It's too bad they and their adherents, for the most part, don't feel bound by them. This is why religion and politics shouldn't intermingle. They each pollute the other until neither functions properly.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 22:33:47 GMT
I am not arguing whether the Right of Annulment is moral or not. Nor am I arguing whether it was effective or not in practice - in the case with Gregor it's used as intended, in another case it is not.
I am pointing out a misconception that its meaning implies mass murder.
Right of Annulment = secure the location, disarm the mages and take them into custody to investigate each one in order to reveal blood magic. NOT murder every single mage for being a mage on the spot.
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Post by melbella on Oct 7, 2017 22:38:44 GMT
"disarm the mages"? How do you expect Templars to do that if the mages fight back? They will kill them, no ifs, ands, or buts. Doing so will be considered justified and in accordance with Chantry law.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 22:56:22 GMT
My very first post talked about an example where Irving surrendered to the Templars peacefully and nobody killed him. This is Annulment being used as intended.
The situation you're describing is what happens when the Right of Annulment is misused. Those mages would start fighting because they would think that Templars would corrupt the law and kill them instead of arresting as the Annulment demands.
Once again, you're using as an example a situation when the law that's intended to do something else is being criminally misused.
This is a huge part of the problem with Kirkwall because no one has faith that the laws the Chantry sets for itself will actually be followed. This doesn't mean the law is originally intended to promote mass murder.
There are a lot of lawful mages willing to abide by the system and they don't want to fight at all. They would have disarmed had they believed that Annulment would be used properly.
This is one fundamental difference between Circle of Magi in DAO and Kirkwall incidents.
At the Cirle, Irving has faith that Gregor will follow the law properly and surrenders.
At Kirkwall, mages have zero faith that Templars will follow even their own rules. This is why they start throwing fireballs instead of surrendering.
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Post by vonuber on Oct 7, 2017 23:00:14 GMT
Tonight, Calistyn got back on the road. She met some people then shot them (a recurring theme), closed some Rifts, endangered some wildlife, met a pornstar masquerading as a Warden then baked some cookies. I do like this Crestwood map.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 7, 2017 23:01:37 GMT
Such a grace, such a great man! No! The point is, that they can perform it, anytime, because they have "divine right over the mages" (Cullen), and the mercy only depends on the Knight Commander whim. The Right of Annulment is an inherently evil, just as the Circle in this form. No. They cannot perform it 'any time.' There are laws that would hold the one to invoke it responsible and you need nothing short of a global catastrophe to invoke it in order to justify why it was called for before the Divine. No. It does not depend on a mercy whim of whoever's in charge. Gregor was following a correct legal procedure. Saying anyone can do it at the snap of the fingers is oversimplifying the system. The Templars participating in the Annulment also undergo severe screening and trial. They are not allowed to get away with whatever they want. Irving himself agreed that in those circumstances the Annulment was a necessity. He wouldn't have agreed to disarm if it meant that Gregor was going to stab him dead on the spot. Had Gregor killed Irving after the First Enchanter surrendered, he would have been found guilty of murder by the Chantry and punished.Just as Meredith and her Templars was punished for their abuses... No. We saw in Kirkwall, that Meredith was able to do anything that she wanted, without any consequence. The Starkhaven Templars also. They killed random mages for time to time to keep in fear the others (Thrask), without any consequence. ___ The Templars can't perform the Annulment without the Chantry, but the Chantry can. Anytime. And there no one able to question the reasons (and no one interest about the reasons). Why Irving agreed? Because he's an old man, who never wanted to rebel. He's a slave, and don't want to be free. He allowed Uldred to play with Blood Magic. ___ The Chantry really needed that purge, I suppose.
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Post by melbella on Oct 7, 2017 23:04:32 GMT
So I'm curious....what is your source for the what Right of Annulment is as you describe?
This is from the Codex on the Right of Annulment in DAO: Divine Galatea, responding to the catastrophe in Nevarra and hoping to prevent further incidents, granted all the grand clerics of the Chantry the power to purge a Circle entirely if they rule it irredeemable. This Right of Annulment has been performed 17 times in the last 700 years.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2017 23:10:25 GMT
No. They cannot perform it 'any time.' There are laws that would hold the one to invoke it responsible and you need nothing short of a global catastrophe to invoke it in order to justify why it was called for before the Divine. No. It does not depend on a mercy whim of whoever's in charge. Gregor was following a correct legal procedure. Saying anyone can do it at the snap of the fingers is oversimplifying the system. The Templars participating in the Annulment also undergo severe screening and trial. They are not allowed to get away with whatever they want. Irving himself agreed that in those circumstances the Annulment was a necessity. He wouldn't have agreed to disarm if it meant that Gregor was going to stab him dead on the spot. Had Gregor killed Irving after the First Enchanter surrendered, he would have been found guilty of murder by the Chantry and punished.Just as Meredith and her Templars was punished for their abuses... No. We saw in Kirkwall, that Meredith was able to do anything that she wanted, without any consequence. The Starkhaven Templars also. They killed random mages for time to time to keep in fear the others (Thrask), without any consequence. ___ The Templars can't perform the Annulment without the Chantry, but the Chantry can. Anytime. And there no one able to question the reasons (and no one interest about the reasons). Why Irving agreed? Because he's an old man, who never wanted to rebel. He's a slave, and don't want to be free. He allowed Uldred to play with Blood Magic. ___ The Chantry really needed that purge, I suppose. What are you talking about? The Chantry declares Meredith's actions to be criminal. Irving should rebel against what? What is in your understanding of rebelling in a situation where the tower was overrun by abominations? Did you want Irving to remove his staff and start throwing fireballs at Gregor? Did you want him to murder Gregor for invoking the right on Annulment to prove that Chantry is evil? You disprove of Irving's actions for agreeing to disarm in that situation. I suppose he should have started a bloody fight that would have murdered the remaining Templars and mages that survived the catastrophe? Do share oh wise one, what would you have done in Irving's shoes in that situation. You are awfully critical of him.
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