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Post by fylimar on Oct 15, 2017 17:15:41 GMT
Outlander was originally a series of novels by Diana Gabaldon about a nurse from ... the 1940th, I think ..., who somehow travelled back in time to medieval Scotland (there was not even a blue police box involved...). And of course she fell in love with some scottish guy. They made a tv show out of it, which seems to be quite popular. I don't watch it, but some of the actors were at a fantasy convention, I attended last year, and most of them, I know from other scifi and fantasy shows and they are quite good in general. I can't say, if the story is any good, because I hate romance novels/movies/shows with passion and am not the right person to judge. I read halfway through the first novel and then lost interest. I don't know how realistic or well written the characters are from half a book, but judging from @dustyelf 's comment, maybe not so well? And I don't think, discussing something DA related is derailing the topic: What did you today in the DA universe? Discussing Cullens trauma during the incident at the Ferelden circle and possible side effects nowadays - totally in-topic imo (and quite interesting. I never thought about it before, but I guess, Cullen never really dealt with what happened to him, did he? He just kept on working, which is probably generally not the baddest approach, but he never really dealt directly with it) I read the book. Nope, no blue police box was involved. The author was using the mystique of the standing stones a la Stonehenge to throw people back and forth. It makes things rather messy, imo. I was more interested in the Scottish historical bits though I'm not totally sure how much Scottish folk lore was thrown in there. I found it interesting and finished the book. Yeah Stonehenge has to stand in for every esoteric conspiracy theory and magical portal . I don't know, how accurate Outlander is on scottish history, I've heard different opinions about that
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Post by Liadan on Oct 15, 2017 18:07:44 GMT
Lady Cousland became the Warden-Commander of Ferelden and the Arl of Amaranthine. Oghren, Anders and Nathaniel joined the Grey Wardens. The wardens joined forces with Sigrun, a member of the Legion of the Dead, and entered Kal'Hirol. After the mission was acomplished Sigrun joined the Grey Wardens. Had to fight an Inferno Golem, and the wardens killed the Broodmothers. The wardens entered the Wending Wood to investigate the attack on the merchants caravans. They discovered that the Darkspawn attacked a Dalish camp and tricked a Dalish mage into believing the humans were the responsable, which led her into attacking the caravans. Velanna also believed her sister were kidnapped in the attacked and after knowing the truth about the darkspawn attack she asked the wardens to enter the silverate mines with her. The Architect captured the wardens and they had to find a way to escape the mines. In the end Velanna`s sister disappeared with the Architect and Velanna joined the Grey Wardens. The wardens went to the Blackmarsh to investigate what happened to Kristoff, an orlesian warden. They found him dead and soon they were ambushed by a darkspawn that trapped them in the Fade. There they met and joined forces with a spirit of Justice in order to defeat the Baroness, a Pride Demon. After defeating the Baroness demons she sent everyone back from the Fade, including Justice, that ended up possessing Kristoff`s corpse. Justice and the wardens defeated the demon and he decided to help them defeat the Darkspawn. They also fought a Spectral Dragon. An army of Darkspawn attacked Amaranthine and since Vigil`s keep were upgraded, the Warden-Commander decided to help to city. They killed the Darkspawn liders and had to fight an armored Ogre. Next the wardens traveled to the lair of the Mother, in the Dragonbone Wastes. Once again they met the Architect and he proposed an alliance but the warden-commander refused it and had to fight and kill him. Finally they reached the Mother`s lair and defeated her, ending the darkspawn threat for the time being. Group picture
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 18:46:55 GMT
fylimar and obsidian Gryphon When I think British literature my mind tends to conjure more of a Farewel happy Fields Where Joy for ever dwells: Hail horrours, hail Infernal world, and thou profoundest Hell Receive thy new Possessor: One who brings A mind not to be chang’d by Place or Time. The mind is its own place, and in it self Can make a Heav’n of Hell, a Hell of Heav’n. Your conspiracy theory sounds fun though. Liadan I got this unfriendly class reunion vibe from your group picture. Everyone stands so far apart. I never know what to do with the Architect. I haven't encountered him/consequences of him yet in DA2 of DAI.
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Post by phoray on Oct 15, 2017 18:57:46 GMT
I never know what to do with the Architect. I haven't encountered him/consequences of him yet in DA2 of DAI. I think the Architect was supposed to be in place of the Fear Demon and then they changed their minds on that plotline. It's too bad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 19:01:51 GMT
I never know what to do with the Architect. I haven't encountered him/consequences of him yet in DA2 of DAI. I think the Architect was supposed to be in place of the Fear Demon and then they changed their minds on that plotline. It's too bad. *sharpens sword* Aha! He was suppose to be evil! Good thing I stabbed him in my keeper world plate.
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Post by phoray on Oct 15, 2017 19:16:09 GMT
I think the Architect was supposed to be in place of the Fear Demon and then they changed their minds on that plotline. It's too bad. *sharpens sword* Aha! He was suppose to be evil! Good thing I stabbed him in my keeper world plate. I dunno about "evil"... I think to say much more would be a spoiler of both the Architect and Corypheus. Both of those characters are some the Magisters who went to the Golden City and turned it black. Corypheaus, under this scrapped plotline, may have attempted to reconnect with his former hmm... I use the term "comrade" loosely here. As none of the magisters even trusted each other enough to tell each other their names.
But consider Cory has his memory but the Architect had lost his, then Cory would have had to make the Architect remember who he was to have joined up with him anyway. Because the Architect was very much all about making the whole world tainted and Cory was not into that. In this way, the Architect was an entirely new person, in a way. As his new goals did not line up with the goals of his former Magister Self at all. So although it may have been a cool cameo, it may have required more explaination than they felt was needed for a mini boss. Especially since he doesn't have the skills the Fear demon had anyhow.
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Post by fylimar on Oct 15, 2017 19:24:56 GMT
Inara Trevelyan investigated some strange things in the Emerald Grave and found a guy named Fairbanks (might his first name be Douglas? ), who does his best to protect refugees from the Freemen of the Dales, who seems to have gone on a killing spree with the red templars. It's kind of touching, that a human and a dwarf mourn the dead Dalish warriors Inara a bit more serious than normal Emerald Grave is really beautiful
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2017 20:10:55 GMT
*sharpens sword* Aha! He was suppose to be evil! Good thing I stabbed him in my keeper world plate. I dunno about "evil"... I think to say much more would be a spoiler of both the Architect and Corypheus. Both of those characters are some the Magisters who went to the Golden City and turned it black. Corypheaus, under this scrapped plotline, may have attempted to reconnect with his former hmm... I use the term "comrade" loosely here. As none of the magisters even trusted each other enough to tell each other their names.
But consider Cory has his memory but the Architect had lost his, then Cory would have had to make the Architect remember who he was to have joined up with him anyway. Because the Architect was very much all about making the whole world tainted and Cory was not into that. In this way, the Architect was an entirely new person, in a way. As his new goals did not line up with the goals of his former Magister Self at all. So although it may have been a cool cameo, it may have required more explaination than they felt was needed for a mini boss. Especially since he doesn't have the skills the Fear demon had anyhow. I kept wandering what to do with him and my first Warden spared him since that Warden was into business of sparing everyone. In the end I found his, 'I didn't mean to murder all those Wardens in twisted experiments and start the next Blight' excuse too weak. Probably bloodthirsty of me, but I found his long term goal of making darkspawn and mortal world to coexist unrealistic, especially when his coexistence implies turning everyone into darkspawn.
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Post by phoray on Oct 15, 2017 20:20:36 GMT
That's what they all said until he got Bethany. I always thought, that Bethany reported herself, because tired of the constant run, and be a burden on her family, and wanted to protect her remained family. She had enough time to think about when Hawke was in Deep Roads. Interesting take. I dig it. Makes me hate her more. How dare she, I was risking my life to get her a cushy mansion to live in. That self hating martyr.Oh crap, realized we're in teh wrong thread. Let me drag it over. HERE WE GO. A free place to bait talk to Catilina
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 20:33:26 GMT
I always thought, that Bethany reported herself, because tired of the constant run, and be a burden on her family, and wanted to protect her remained family. She had enough time to think about when Hawke was in Deep Roads. Interesting take. I dig it. Makes me hate her more. How dare she, I was risking my life to get her a cushy mansion to live in. That self hating martyr.Oh crap, realized we're in teh wrong thread. Let me drag it over. HERE WE GO. A free place to bait talk to Catilina You know me well... too well! And I felt similar than you regarding Bethany's martyrdom, but I still like her. You know, I'm into the martyrs...
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I always thought, that Bethany reported herself, because tired of the constant run, and be a burden on her family, and wanted to protect her remained family. She had enough time to think about when Hawke was in Deep Roads. Interesting take. I dig it. Makes me hate her more. How dare she, I was risking my life to get her a cushy mansion to live in. That self hating martyr.Oh crap, realized we're in teh wrong thread. Let me drag it over. HERE WE GO. A free place to bait talk to Catilina He isn't the only person you've ended up baiting. I suppose handsome DA character make a highly effective bait.
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Post by phoray on Oct 15, 2017 20:39:13 GMT
Bethany is such a know it all. Disrespected the efforts of her Father to be free and keep them free. and when Hawke took up the Mantle, she runs away to be safely locked up at the first chance she's left alone.
And if you let her become a Warden she becomes a "wish I was dead" BRAT of MAJOR proportions. Her dramatic letters match Anders' worst whiniest tendencies. Because at LEAST Anders will directly tell you he's mad at you but Bethany? Noooo. Passive Aggressive Bullshit.
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Post by Curious Crow on Oct 15, 2017 21:22:13 GMT
Little hangout session with Flowerboy. He strolled around Haven and chatted to some peeps before visiting Orlais. Talked to Threnn, Varric, Segritt and Cassandra. Cullen was busy nattering with Roderick and Solas kind of doesn't exist in his eyes yet. In Orlais his alliance with the Mages was pretty much sealed, since Luscious "would not do anything for his pleasure". Like you got to give some to get some, man. So Imekari then headed out to meet with the Mages. Closed two rifts on the way with rather much difficulty, since you kind of need to do some more fighting when you have the lower exp trial on and I couldn't be arsed. Also needed to reload three times to get a spellbinder to stop being difficult. Walk softly (?) barriers are just evil. Anyways, Imekari got cheated out of free (but probably spiked) beer from Alexius when Felix fell into his arms. And vomited. Well not the latter, but it's always what comes to mind that he's about to do as he staggers towards quizzy. Then he met his future ex husband, but probably not, Dorian. Another plus on the mages side I'd say. But it was a short session, so nothing more of note happened. Did have one character related musing, which I'll kindly cover with spoilers and add a dash of his stupid grin in as well. Was thinking about the meeting with Bull, when Quizzy speaks to him in Qunlat and he tells them to stahp because it makes the boys nervous. But Imekari is a class 2 jerk, so he'd probably take it as an invitation to saunter up to Bull and the Chargers while they were drinking. Lean over one of them (probably Krem) resting his hand on their shoulders and look Iron Bull dead in the eye, saying a phrase in Qunlat. But it would be a silly phrase like "Rain is wet" or "I like milk in my tea". So the chargers would get all nervous like and Iron Bull would just cover his tiny face in his massive hands and groan. And Imekari would laugh, internally, but keep a stoic face until Iron Bull chased him off with something tossable which would not remove an eye. Following that, Imekari got another background thingie. He knew a smattering of Qunlat. Mostly casual stuff like bread, road or river, which his parents didn't know the common word for. So he could recite a few semi correct sentences. Not enough to have a chat, but enough to make people nervous. So there is that. And here is his little internal grin over this development.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 15, 2017 21:50:31 GMT
Bethany is such a know it all. Disrespected the efforts of her Father to be free and keep them free. and when Hawke took up the Mantle, she runs away to be safely locked up at the first chance she's left alone. And if you let her become a Warden she becomes a "wish I was dead" BRAT of MAJOR proportions. Her dramatic letters match Anders' worst whiniest tendencies. Because at LEAST Anders will directly tell you he's mad at you but Bethany? Noooo. Passive Aggressive Bullshit. Carver whiny too and blames Hawke for everything, true, he's much more funnier, than Bethany – and this is why I don't really like Grey Warden Bethany. But I like Circle Mage Bethany, when she stop whining and start fighting. Bethany's writer is Jennifer Hepler ... she wrote Anders just as Cullen, Elthina, Sebastian, Gamlen, and Leandra.
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Post by shaqfu on Oct 15, 2017 22:10:56 GMT
Started to craft some armor for everybody and noticed the templar armor switches appearance on classes. Does anybody know if there's a mod out there to have the heavy warrior look for any class? Update: Incase anybody else is looking for the same type of mod I found it here. www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/963/?
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Post by vonuber on Oct 15, 2017 22:16:18 GMT
Tonight, Calistyn went to the Fallow Mere, the smallest of the Fallows. Really liking the hidden blades thing, especially when it has the 10% chance of activating on every hit.
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Post by phoray on Oct 15, 2017 22:29:41 GMT
Bethany is such a know it all. Disrespected the efforts of her Father to be free and keep them free. and when Hawke took up the Mantle, she runs away to be safely locked up at the first chance she's left alone. And if you let her become a Warden she becomes a "wish I was dead" BRAT of MAJOR proportions. Her dramatic letters match Anders' worst whiniest tendencies. Because at LEAST Anders will directly tell you he's mad at you but Bethany? Noooo. Passive Aggressive Bullshit. Carver whiny too and blames Hawke for everything, true, he's much more funnier, than Bethany – and this is why I don't really like Grey Warden Bethany. But I like Circle Mage Bethany, when she stop whining and start fighting. Bethany's writer is Jennifer Hepler ... she wrote Anders just as Cullen, Elthina, Sebastian, Gamlen, and Leandra. But Carver anger is more usual. He wants to be his own man. He didn't ever give up.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Oct 16, 2017 1:26:39 GMT
Lady Cousland became the Warden-Commander of Ferelden and the Arl of Amaranthine. Oghren, Anders and Nathaniel joined the Grey Wardens. The wardens joined forces with Sigrun, a member of the Legion of the Dead, and entered Kal'Hirol. After the mission was acomplished Sigrun joined the Grey Wardens. Had to fight an Inferno Golem, and the wardens killed the Broodmothers. The wardens entered the Wending Wood to investigate the attack on the merchants caravans. They discovered that the Darkspawn attacked a Dalish camp and tricked a Dalish mage into believing the humans were the responsable, which led her into attacking the caravans. Velanna also believed her sister were kidnapped in the attacked and after knowing the truth about the darkspawn attack she asked the wardens to enter the silverate mines with her. The Architect captured the wardens and they had to find a way to escape the mines. In the end Velanna`s sister disappeared with the Architect and Velanna joined the Grey Wardens. The wardens went to the Blackmarsh to investigate what happened to Kristoff, an orlesian warden. They found him dead and soon they were ambushed by a darkspawn that trapped them in the Fade. There they met and joined forces with a spirit of Justice in order to defeat the Baroness, a Pride Demon. After defeating the Baroness demons she sent everyone back from the Fade, including Justice, that ended up possessing Kristoff`s corpse. Justice and the wardens defeated the demon and he decided to help them defeat the Darkspawn. They also fought a Spectral Dragon. An army of Darkspawn attacked Amaranthine and since Vigil`s keep were upgraded, the Warden-Commander decided to help to city. They killed the Darkspawn liders and had to fight an armored Ogre. Next the wardens traveled to the lair of the Mother, in the Dragonbone Wastes. Once again they met the Architect and he proposed an alliance but the warden-commander refused it and had to fight and kill him. Finally they reached the Mother`s lair and defeated her, ending the darkspawn threat for the time being. Group picture Interesting...when I did Awakening last week, I recruited Sigrun last and though she said she wanted to be a Warden, she didn't undergo the Joining when we returned to Vigil's Keep. Did you have to do anything special to be able join all companions?
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Post by melbella on Oct 16, 2017 1:43:15 GMT
deadlydwarf It's a bug in Awakening where, if you recruit either Sigrun or Velanna last, they can't do the Joining. There is a bugfix mod for it, if on PC, or you can leave Justice to be recruited last instead. Justice doesn't need to do the Joining since he's already in a Warden's body.
I usually get Sigrun, then Velanna, then Justice, so I can avoid the issue.
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Post by phoray on Oct 16, 2017 1:45:19 GMT
Husband kept dying in the Talvashoth cavern in act one, even putting on Casual, cuz no healer in the party. I finally come over and own it, kiting them carefully into the hall. With three badies left, I hand it over to him and I'm like, "I think you can handle it now."
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Post by cmoe on Oct 16, 2017 1:46:19 GMT
Picking up where I last left Ellana.. At Val Royeaux. She got to meet Fiona... then ran around looking for red hankies.. Also went back for more meetings.. Always with the meetings.. Hopped on by the Storm Coast to see about these Bull's Chargers.. Poor Ellana was confused by what a formal meeting meant. "Too much?" Purple Girl selfie.. oh and a pretty view Meeting Bull.. Ellana doesn't have a crush.. you do..
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Post by deadlydwarf on Oct 16, 2017 2:36:35 GMT
Boudica, Alistair, Morrigan set out for Lothering per Morrigan's recommendation. Upon reaching the village, a group of highwaymen try to shake them down for 10 silvers. Boudica refuses and the highwaymen are quickly dealt with. She questions the leader about the latest news and finds out that Teyrn Loghain, now Regent, is blaming the disaster at Ostagar on the Grey Wardens and has put a bounty on the head of any surviving Wardens. She finds the village overrun with refugees from the south desperately fleeing the encroaching Dark Spawn. They have a brief discussion about what their next destination should be: the Circle Tower to recruit the mages? The Brecillian Forest to recruit the Dalish? Orzammar to recruit the dwarves? Or to Redcliffe to earn the allegiance of Arl Eamon, an important noble who was also King Cailan's uncle? Alistair mentions that he was raised by Arl Eamon prior to being sent to the Chantry to be trained as a Templar. Boudica decides to put off the decision until they have more information. Upon entering the local tavern - Dane's Refuge - they encounter some of Loghain's men who quickly challenge them. A beautiful red-headed Chantry sister attempts to intervene and prevent a fight from breaking out. The leader of the soldiers insists on blood and a fight ensues - and the strange Chantry sister joins in to help Boudica and her team. Armed with but a single dagger, she proves to be an impressive rogue fighter nonetheless making quick strikes at the soldiers then disappearing before they can retaliate. When Loghain's soldiers are annihilated, their leader begs for mercy and the Chantry sister asks that Boudica spare him. Out of respect for her efforts and the robe she wears, Boudica lets the leader flee. They will be out of Lothering long before any reinforcements arrive. The young sister - she identifies herself as Leliana - asks to join Boudica's group, claiming that she had a vision indicating that it was the Maker's will that she join them in the effort to stop the Dark Spawn. While the claim that she had a divine vision/dream seemed odd, Boudica agrees, finding both Leliana's fighting skills and Chantry connections potentially useful. To counter Loghain's false charges against the Wardens, Boudica and her team go out of there way to help the people in Lothering and complete all the tasks on the Chantry Board to build a positive legend about the Grey Wardens (and to collect a little coin...) Morrigan finds such altruistic tasks annoying but ironically expresses concern for a strange caged prisoner they find at the outskirts of town. Leliana, who also seems to pity the prisoner, states that he was imprisoned for massacring a family of farmers. Boudica's efforts to question the prisoner affirms his guilt for the crime but little else other than he was a Qunari warrior. Despite Leliana and Morrigan being united in wanting to help the murderer, Boudica sees no cause to help him. Even if the Qunari wasn't so evasive, why would she want to recruit a mass murderer? How could she justify getting the Qunari pardoned for his crimes while she herself sought to bring Loghain and Howe to justice for theirs? When they enter the village Chantry, they find their good deeds around the village are rewarded with both the Templars and the Chantry refusing to denounce the GWs as villains and remaining neutral. Also, they run into Ser Donal, a knight of Redcliffe who knows Alistair. He reveals that the Arl is deathly sick and that his knights have been sent all over Ferelden to try to find the Urn of Sacred Ashes, supposedly containing the ashes of the prophet Andraste and said to be able to cure all ills. At this point, Boudica has the information she needs to make a decision on their next destination. Given the troubling news of the Arl's health, their logical next move is to go to the Circle Tower and not only recruit the mages, but gain the help of their most talented healers to treat the Arl. And so it is that Boudica's group heads north!
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Post by deadlydwarf on Oct 16, 2017 3:11:15 GMT
I think the Architect was supposed to be in place of the Fear Demon and then they changed their minds on that plotline. It's too bad. *sharpens sword* Aha! He was suppose to be evil! Good thing I stabbed him in my keeper world plate. To find out more about the Architect, you should read the Gaider book, The Calling. The events in it occur before the Blight in DAO. Basically, the Architect is trying to bring about peace between the Dark Spawn and the humans and other peoples of Thedas. This general plan you can figure out just by playing Awakening. To find out the dirty details of the plan, you have to read the book.
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Post by phoray on Oct 16, 2017 3:12:40 GMT
*sharpens sword* Aha! He was suppose to be evil! Good thing I stabbed him in my keeper world plate. To find out more about the Architect, you should read the Gaider book, The Calling. The events in it occur before the Blight in DAO. Basically, the Architect is trying to bring about peace between the Dark Spawn and the humans and other peoples of Thedas. This general plan you can figure out just by playing Awakening. To find out the dirty details of the plan, you have to read the book. He's actually more scary in that he's really thinking he's doing good work. All the logical coldness of a scientist with extreme utilitarianism views.
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Post by melbella on Oct 16, 2017 3:18:36 GMT
Yeah, let's turn everyone into darkspawn....we'll all be one big happy, tainted family. I just wish you got more a sense of what his plans are before you have to decide to help him or not. And you don't find out about his role in the Blight unless you DO help him.
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