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Post by Sokemis on Jul 2, 2020 1:12:04 GMT
For some reason I kept coming back to wanting it to start with "L" and not end in "a". Lalani is a name I made by mashing up "ladara" (heal) + "halani" (help), to more or less mean "she who helps and heals", fitting for my lawful good healer You mean only DAI, yes? May I ask how you are planning to perform that role? Spells, spec, team, who is the damager, tactics - such things. The question might seem stupid or strange (whom how), though ask since try to play now in all three games as supporter, but always turns out make damage and always really struggle to put "support" spells as the first ones. In DA2 it seems getting used to that role and the team is very good considering it is only the beginning of the game, Isi is late-deleveloping but is the main damager, etc. Tried in DAI as well, got level 20 + in one DLC with Sera DW as the main damager (she did her job really great but needed that "support" + tank Cass), but understood (with tests) that should have chosen Viv instead of Dorian - encounters became much better. Reloaded a save before taking a spec and now will start over. But still boring. Anyway, would appreciate the answer. Any tips can influence person's views on anything. I haven't fully planned out her build, figured I'd look at builds and take suggestions when I got closer to starting her (still have two simultaneous Origins playthroughs to to get through). She'll definitely be maxing out the spirit tree, and most if not all of the storm tree (I've always loved storm mages, so I headcanon that that's her strongest elemental magic) - most of her offensive spells come from the storm tree early on. Will pull from Inferno/Winter as needed. I wish "Firestorm" wasn't a Rift mage focus ability - I loved casting Firestorm and Tempest back-to-back on mobs in DA2 Plan on taking Knight Enchanter for her specialization, haven't played a KE on the PC yet but I did like it on the Playstation. The "Knight-Protector" passive strengthens the barriers she'll be casting on herself and companions, "Fade Sheild" and "Veiled Riposte" are other passive that plays off her personal barrier. With "barrier" more-or-less taking the place of "heal" in combat, I like being able to strengthen them when I can. The focus ability for that specialization is also healing based. And although I don't plan on having her charge the front lines, who doesn't love having a lightsaber spirit blade? When I played her in the past, my favorite team was Dorian/Sera/Cassandra. I can remember Cassandra running to engage a group of enemies, only to have my Quizzy, Dorian, and Sera have them all taken care of before Cass even reached them. I tend to play on the easier settings, so any group should work... for the most part. With her I tended to take a warrior, a rogue, and either a second warrior or another mage (usually Dorian went along, especially since he's my Quizzy's BFF, and I tried to build him up with more offensive spells). Originally I may have played her a little more offensively/damage dealing than intended but I was still learning the game. I've developed her character more from a roleplay perspective since then and really want to try to play her as much of a support mage as I can this time around. We'll see how it goes. It figures that the game in the series where I actually want to play as a support/healer mage, they don't have an actually healer specialization , so I accept that some of her healer-ness I'll just have to headcanon as happening "offscreen". But I intend to incorporate it in other ways, such as choosing the herb garden and the infirmary when she chooses the upgrades for Skyhold. That all being said, if anyone has any tips for building a healer-type support mage in DAI, all suggestions are welcome
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 2, 2020 5:37:30 GMT
That all being said, if anyone has any tips for building a healer-type support mage in DAI, all suggestions are welcome Your plan is solid. Just remember to stay away from Chaotic Focus I wouldn't focus too much on Spirit Blade, considering it was greatly crippled and with support mage you'd want Winter Stillness to activate as often as possible and Spirit Blade might break it. I was also thinking if Resurgence is worth dropping Mark of the Rift, but at lower difficulties it doesn't matter that much. That being said, with proper set-up from your planned party (and maybe some fade-touched guard-on-hit), I doubt you'll ever need to use Resurgence To go as little damage as possible, for active spells I'd go for 4 from Spirit tree, Disruption Field, Fade Cloak, Resurgence and maybe Static Cage for nice cc? Or one of damaging spells. As for party, I'd say it works. Especially Cass with her Templar tree. Though, as with focus ability, at lower difficulties it doesn't matter that much who you choose. ...As long as you have right people to deal with obstacles *flashbacks from promoted barrier on the mine entrance without right magic attacker*
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 8:16:33 GMT
I haven't fully planned out her build, figured I'd look at builds and take suggestions when I got closer to starting her (still have two simultaneous Origins playthroughs to to get through). She'll definitely be maxing out the spirit tree, and most if not all of the storm tree (I've always loved storm mages, so I headcanon that that's her strongest elemental magic) - most of her offensive spells come from the storm tree early on. Will pull from Inferno/Winter as needed. I wish "Firestorm" wasn't a Rift mage focus ability - I loved casting Firestorm and Tempest back-to-back on mobs in DA2 Plan on taking Knight Enchanter for her specialization, haven't played a KE on the PC yet but I did like it on the Playstation. The "Knight-Protector" passive strengthens the barriers she'll be casting on herself and companions, "Fade Sheild" and "Veiled Riposte" are other passive that plays off her personal barrier. With "barrier" more-or-less taking the place of "heal" in combat, I like being able to strengthen them when I can. The focus ability for that specialization is also healing based. And although I don't plan on having her charge the front lines, who doesn't love having a lightsaber spirit blade? When I played her in the past, my favorite team was Dorian/Sera/Cassandra. I can remember Cassandra running to engage a group of enemies, only to have my Quizzy, Dorian, and Sera have them all taken care of before Cass even reached them. I tend to play on the easier settings, so any group should work... for the most part. With her I tended to take a warrior, a rogue, and either a second warrior or another mage (usually Dorian went along, especially since he's my Quizzy's BFF, and I tried to build him up with more offensive spells). Originally I may have played her a little more offensively/damage dealing than intended but I was still learning the game. I've developed her character more from a roleplay perspective since then and really want to try to play her as much of a support mage as I can this time around. We'll see how it goes. It figures that the game in the series where I actually want to play as a support/healer mage, they don't have an actually healer specialization , so I accept that some of her healer-ness I'll just have to headcanon as happening "offscreen". But I intend to incorporate it in other ways, such as choosing the herb garden and the infirmary when she chooses the upgrades for Skyhold. That all being said, if anyone has any tips for building a healer-type support mage in DAI, all suggestions are welcome Thank you for you time writing such a long comment. Btw, have you tried to play as supporter in DAO? Have also created a GW supporter - still can't leave Flemeth, that bog is so attractive The real reason - two other GWs are the main focus, but eager to try mage-supporter as well. Suspect (only suspect as have not tried yet) in DAO it could be more interesting to be a supporter (as well as in DA2) in comparison with DAI at least due to spells and actually working tactics. Have mentioned, but now in DA2 have level 10/11 and enjoy SH, but use offensive spells half of the time anyway and the only mage in the team + would like to try some other ideas. The main thing - in the beginning was very boring, at this stage of the game with spells I have, the team - actually enjoying this PT (not over-enjoying, but still). Maybe you played DAO and DA2 supporters to share your experience?
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 2, 2020 9:23:21 GMT
Maybe you played DAO and DA2 supporters to share your experience? DAO (as well as DA2 to some extend) - with its number of spells - is indeed far more flexible in creating support mage than DAI. My canon Warden actually heavily focuses on support, with Spirit Healer and Arcane Warrior pecializations (second one mostly for passives). Her go-to spells are from Healing and Enhancements trees (though I rarely take Haste), both Flaming and Frost Weapons (to switch between depending on enemies), Mastery tree and Mana Alterations tree, Anti-Magic (for Dispel Magic) and sometimes Glyphs. So usually she ends up with only Arcane Bolt, Flame Blast, Winter's Grasp (all three because I needed to get to higher tier), as well as Mana Clash to deal with more troublesome mages. In what order I unlock and if I unlock everything really depends on order I'm doing quests in that particular playthrough and how much I plan to do. DAO also allows you to go full crowd control support type, instead of healer/buffer support, but I never built my Warden like that. The closest I was to that was giving Morrigan bunch of Entropy spells. My canon Hawke is also Spirit Healer (with Force Mage tree unlocked as secondary specialization), but she's not as support-oriented as my Warden (she's too chaotic to just watch everyone's back, she needs to drop a fireball or two as well), so nothing practical to share
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 9:23:52 GMT
Wanted to add some thoughts and questions as well. I wish "Firestorm" wasn't a Rift mage focus abilit Imo that focus ability for a Rift Mage makes no sense at all considering other RM spells. Fire? From a rift mage? What is the explanation as spells must be connected somehow. If you learn spirit tree, everything is connected. Even Necro-focus can find its own explanation in terms of connection to the whole Necto-Tree. Can anyone find proper explanation for a Firestorm Focus of a Rift mage? Looks imppressive, can't deny, but see no connection to the whole RM Tree. who doesn't love having a lightsaber spirit blade? There are some. My reason to start over was because of SB included. I am not a SB fan, but there were situations where just had to use it as "no tactics/team acts stupid/etc". I simply did not have time to spam support abilities and Dorian (my "must be" mage in any PT) could not handle that role properly. Tried Viv with several encounters in DLC with avvar -chaters: great difference. I always use Dorian as the only mage and he does his job very well. Though in that case he failed. Dorian, as well as Merrill and Morrigan - are damagers from the start (unlike Viv, Anders, Whynne). Not saying that Dorian is bad as supporter as prefer him to Viv though she is the best supporter anyway. But with exactly that build and team, when Inq is half-damager as well, Viv is much better (play on NM mode, with FF, with trials). Bad as really like Dorian-Sera PBs. Viv-Sera PBs can also be interesting, but Dorian? He is like Zevran and Varric - PB with the dullest companion will be funny. Guess it is simply part of their nature - talk about "whatever" but we get interesting, funny and even serious outcomes. Though Sera also knows what to say using her manner of communication. A smart and funny girl. and maybe some fade-touched guard-on-hit What is the point of playing SH and not using the whole arsenal of available spells? It is even not mage-ability, but warriors'. Can you give several examples of using it in combat for a SH, stp? Any upgrades for that? Especially Cass with her Templar tree. What do yo mean by that? With no tactics as it is I mean. Spamming focus ans BB?
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 9:40:08 GMT
My canon Warden actually heavily focuses on support, with Spirit Healer and Arcane Warrior pecializations What is your team with that cannon GW? Do you use tactics? Someone has to kill emenies. My canon Hawke is also Spirit Healer (with Force Mage tree unlocked as secondary specialization), but she's not as support-oriented as my Warden (she's too chaotic to just watch everyone's back, she needs to drop a fireball or two as well), so nothing practical to share The same questiona: the team and tactics for a cannon Hawke? "Chaotic" is fine and well, only the point of choosing SH spec considering as well "too busy with fireballs to watch how the team is doing"? --- In any case, merci for sharing DAO build.
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 2, 2020 10:20:26 GMT
Can anyone find proper explanation for a Firestorm Focus of a Rift mage? Looks imppressive, can't deny, but see no connection to the whole RM Tree. Can't help you with that, since I think none of mage spec focus abilities make sense. You can't really play Spirit Healer in DAI, that's why any spells/abilities that imitate healing help in creating illusion of it. And I treat guard generation as another form of barrier. Plus with right skill upgrades warriors are able to spread guard on other party memebers, so I don't see the reason why I can't treat fade-touched materials just as another way to do that. DF is decent form of crowd control, which supporter might need when facing larger group of enemies (you can see it as additional Mind Blast, but instead of stunning, you slow your enemies). I remember it being quite useful against enemies like Hakkonite Spies in Jaws of Hakkon (or any other dw rogues). And I don't use upgrades, since they don't bring much to it, while consuming one skill point. I meant mostly passives (Maker's Will for weakening, There Is No Darkness for elemental resistance) for additional support capabilities. Plus Spell Purge is always good. My canon Warden actually heavily focuses on support, with Spirit Healer and Arcane Warrior pecializations What is your team with that cannon GW? Do you use tactics? Someone has to kill emenies. Test of endurance? She can take a punch Jesting aside, I usually go with my Warden, warrior, rogue and blank. With blank depending on who warrior and rogue are. If I go with Alistair or Shale, I can allow myself to bring another damage dealer for blank, usually Leliana or Morrigan, since Zevran is my go-to rogue. If I take Oghren or Sten with me, who can punch, but aren't as sturdy as Alistair and Shale, I go with either Wynne for additional support or Leliana with her Ranger spec active for blank. Or just bring both Sten and Oghren to distribute threat better. I do set up tactics, mostly to make sure my party is not out of mana/stamina all the time and that they use appropriate spells (I had unfortunate pleasure to see Morrigan spam AOEs against one enemy before, not fun at all). I usually spend the most time setting up sustained spells, heals and - in case of warriors - skill generating threat. I don't set up my tactics in DA2 as much, since I usually have less active spells than in DAO, but the rule in tactics and team are similar to DAO's. When it comes to tactics I focus on sustained spells management, heals, threat generation and no AOE spam on single enemy (also switching off Mind Blast on Merrill and Anders, since if they are allowed to use it, they tend to go into melee range). Team is also usually warrior, rogue + blank, with blank being a bit more flexible than in DAO, since Hawke can damage equally good to healing. And while Aveline is optimal choice for warrior, I like to take Carver or Fenris for that role as well. I just have to put a bit more work in healing at times like that. She's not exactly "too busy with fireballs", more like "if you want something done right, do it yourself" type. Or maybe not even that exactly, since she knows how to ask for help and lean on others. She just feels most comfortable when she's prepared for as many situations as possible, including needing to heal.
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 13:05:32 GMT
Can't help you with that, since I think none of mage spec focus abilities make sense. Even KE? Why? It suits to the spec as "protector and supporter", non? -- Just curious, what about focus of all other warrior and rogue specs? -- You can't really play Spirit Healer in DAI Not the point of using "SH" words. The meaning is clear and "SH" is simply shorter to use. Nothing else. any spells/abilities that imitate healing help in creating illusion of it. Aye, barrier upon barrier followed by revival and another barrier. And I treat guard generation as another form of barrier. Plus with right skill upgrades warriors are able to spread guard on other party memebers, so I don't see the reason why I can't treat fade-touched materials just as another way to do that. I explained why asked about "guard-on-hit" considering your own words about that. -- So you know a warrior can spam focus giving you guard but still do not mind using exactly warrior ability as a mage. I see. DF is decent form of crowd control, which supporter might need when facing larger group of enemies (you can see it as additional Mind Blast, but instead of stunning, you slow your enemies). I remember it being quite useful against enemies like Hakkonite Spies in Jaws of Hakkon (or any other dw rogues). And I don't use upgrades, since they don't bring much to it, while consuming one skill point. Do I understand right? You see DF (you also compare it to MB) as a way to run away and stay alive? Since you can't kill enemies fast enough as DF duration is short. Test of endurance? She can take a punch What is that supposed to mean? ------ Got it. Thank you. Appreciate such detailed explanations.
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 2, 2020 13:39:37 GMT
Can't help you with that, since I think none of mage spec focus abilities make sense. Even KE? Why? It suits to the spec as "protector and supporter", non? -- Just curious, what about focus of all other warrior and rogue specs? I think if mages' focus abilieties were flipped, they'd make much more sense. Haste for battle-oriented Knight-Enchanter, Resurgence for Rift Mage (considering Spirit Healing requires good connection to the Fade and this spec has the best connection of the three) and Firestorm for Necromancer (seeing as even Dorian starts with fire spells). I have little to no problem with warriors' focus abilities. As for rogues... Artificer's makes sense for Varric and if Inquisitor uses bow, but if they go dw, it makes little sense. Assassin's fits the fantasy, but I'd say it's the weakest of rogue abilities (Assassin deserved more damage-oriented focus). Tempest's focus ability is my favourite rogue one, but in my opinion it fits Assassin better. I also don't know how I feel about the fact it's Sera's skill, who is mostly portrayed as archer, while her focus ability implies melee... Pretty much. DF allows mage to either run, set up their defenses or - if they have right spells - to counter attack. It also gives additional time for other party members to at least try to come to their rescue. My comment was supposed to be joking answer for your "Someone has to kill emenies." (as in she'll be able to endure all that's coming her way while she chip down enemies' healt with her poor damaging skills), but I worded it poorly and it wasn't really clear
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Post by Buckeldemon on Jul 2, 2020 13:59:20 GMT
*opens backlog* 6) You're welcome, and now I can't help but hear Thrask in that scene thanks to you 7) I won't mind that for the humans (seeing as my DA4 protag. is going to be human) but having diverse options won't hurt. I'm kinda hoping for Fog Warrior 8) eh *shrug* that'll work 10) Cory? Widdled him down with spells...mostly crushing prison plus two two-handers who could hit pretty hard was also pretty useful 11) nah, Fen told Isabela to "keep her distance" though whether that means from him or from Hawke is anyone's guess 12) I know...I wanted to go for a bit more honey colored (orange golden) but the lighting in the CC didn't help...so just gonna roll with it and don't worry, aside from her snappiness during the prologue, Gwyneth is pretty nice and you're welcome for the links 7) Pardon me if I'm sure about you being sure about your next protagonist. Though honestly, if DA4 gives us a human background more engaging than "bog-standard andrastian noble" I'll probably give it a try as well. 10) I just had Carver and he died quickly, though I cannot remember if he already had this 50% spell resistance passive. 11) I'm trying to imagine that comment of his in Emery's usual acting. Sneery! 12) What you call snappyness is other's way of releasing stress. *purple!Hawke approves* she was being a b*tch to my Lavellan because she told Minaeve she'd have done well in the Dalish how was my Lavellan supposed to know she'd been born as Dalish but had been cast out? Sokemis mentioned going mama bear in another thread, while my Lavellan is probably more inclined to turn Minaeve into an ash pile right then and there for being an insufferable templar fangirl and not getting the predicament behind her story. Leliana ended his suffering with her dagger. With help from Vivienne, Varric and Blackwall Gwyneth headed the defense, buying time for her people to flee and eventually facing the Elder One -Corypheus- himself. With a distraction she was able to escape from Haven before it was destroyed. Hmm, I took future!Lel's throat-slitting exhitbition as more of "payback" than a mercy-kill". Did you manage to keep all the Haven inhabitants alive? Gotta love his glare "For interrupting us like that, you'll get sent on a suicide mission, soldier!" Gwyneth wasn't very happy with the revelation her returned memories brought her. And after that...head to the Exalted Plains (mostly to help out Solas with his quest) and the Emerald Graves...more pretty green
Will likely not be touching Wicked Eyes before the week is out...maybe even longer How did you have your Lavellan react to all the Fake!Justinina shenanigans?
Did you take your Venatori tomes (for the Rift Mage) from the guys on the plains or from somewhere else? As my Adaar was preparing to go Rift Mage, I was pretty frustrated that there's barely any way to get them otherwise. They are dropped by average Venatori mages at times (and Adaar had them galore in the Hinterlands due to having done CotJ), but even the dudes in Dorian's quest had empty pockets, so it was dashing across the plains, trying not to get distracted by side quests and loot the first two quest Venatori, then back to Skyhold to open Ghilan'nain's grove to find the last one (after killing the welcome party of what feels like over 9000 level 15 Gurguts). Pushing WE&WH back is a very normal habit for a DAI player. Though I did it before HLTA on my Adaar mage. She took great pride in trolling all those fops and finally bullying the trio into an uneasy co-op. Wandered the area, finding only old camps and notes left behind by a group of Wardens apparently looking for someone. Spent about 10 minutes watching an epic battle between a lightning dragon and a giant (and took lots of pictures). The dragon won, and left behind some giant loot for the group to scavenge. Sigh - every time I watch the dragons I think, this time I won't hunt them all down and steal their stuff. But then I inevitably do it anyway because....reasons. However, I am planning on abusing the Crestwood store this PT so I will be able to afford to buy all the dragon materials I want and I can keep my pretties alive.
I can feel that, everytime one of these ladies slumps over to the side. Even Ms. Kaltenzahn, who is usually rather annoying. What do you intent to do with the Crestwood store? Is that one of these buy/sell stuff quickly to glitch in more gold? As even the bones buyable in the BE/LoD camp are limited, I usually just stick to other materials and use the bones are mostly for damage slots on fire staves. Nice RP concept. Though I personally would not waste spend a point on Veiled Riposte (except for the +3 magic). 20% damage return seems pretty low, given how much hitpoints hostiles have compared to the damage they can cause. Something like 250% would probably be more useful; Diablo II got that right back in the day as baddies hit with the "Iron Maiden" curse can reliably kill themselves attacking the Necromancer's minions. That's why I always unlock Knowledge perks first, they're awesome Another early game option you can easily miss is with Arcane Knowledge, during your talk with Minaeve you can recogise her as being born Dalish.Wait, there are perk-related responses for those early game NPCs? Great, now I hate the perk system even more. I mean, who would wait for several levels to accumulate enough blasted influence (and the Hinterlands fetch quests for it are usually shite for multiple reasons) before talking to them without even knowing about the special options? That all being said, if anyone has any tips for building a healer-type support mage in DAI, all suggestions are welcome Your plan is solid. Just remember to stay away from Chaotic Focus Wait... someone arguing against using Chaotic Focus? Most build recommendations I've seen include it, while I personally never use it, as I cannot turn it off on demand if I want full Barrier in certain circumstances. If it would be a modal/sustainable, it would be an entirely different story, but alas, it being what it is, I never even use it on KE's intended to throw fire runes into someone's face up close.
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 2, 2020 14:08:20 GMT
That's why I always unlock Knowledge perks first, they're awesome Another early game option you can easily miss is with Arcane Knowledge, during your talk with Minaeve you can recogise her as being born Dalish.Wait, there are perk-related responses for those early game NPCs? Great, now I hate the perk system even more. I mean, who would wait for several levels to accumulate enough blasted influence (and the Hinterlands fetch quests for it are usually shite for multiple reasons) before talking to them without even knowing about the special options? True At least now we get one point thanks to Golden Nugh, if you had enough collections completed. Usually it's a very good passive, but in this particular setting - as support - it's a waste of precious barrier on damage boost, which is last thing support should worry about.
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*opens backlog* 6) You're welcome, and now I can't help but hear Thrask in that scene thanks to you 7) I won't mind that for the humans (seeing as my DA4 protag. is going to be human) but having diverse options won't hurt. I'm kinda hoping for Fog Warrior 8) eh *shrug* that'll work 10) Cory? Widdled him down with spells...mostly crushing prison plus two two-handers who could hit pretty hard was also pretty useful 11) nah, Fen told Isabela to "keep her distance" though whether that means from him or from Hawke is anyone's guess 12) I know...I wanted to go for a bit more honey colored (orange golden) but the lighting in the CC didn't help...so just gonna roll with it and don't worry, aside from her snappiness during the prologue, Gwyneth is pretty nice and you're welcome for the links 7) Pardon me if I'm sure about you being sure about your next protagonist. Though honestly, if DA4 gives us a human background more engaging than "bog-standard andrastian noble" I'll probably give it a try as well. 10) I just had Carver and he died quickly, though I cannot remember if he already had this 50% spell resistance passive. 11) I'm trying to imagine that comment of his in Emery's usual acting. Sneery! 12) What you call snappyness is other's way of releasing stress. *purple!Hawke approves* she was being a b*tch to my Lavellan because she told Minaeve she'd have done well in the Dalish how was my Lavellan supposed to know she'd been born as Dalish but had been cast out? Sokemis mentioned going mama bear in another thread, while my Lavellan is probably more inclined to turn Minaeve into an ash pile right then and there for being an insufferable templar fangirl and not getting the predicament behind her story. Leliana ended his suffering with her dagger. With help from Vivienne, Varric and Blackwall Gwyneth headed the defense, buying time for her people to flee and eventually facing the Elder One -Corypheus- himself. With a distraction she was able to escape from Haven before it was destroyed. 13) Hmm, I took future!Lel's throat-slitting exhitbition as more of "payback" than a mercy-kill". Did you manage to keep all the Haven inhabitants alive? Gotta love his glare 14) "For interrupting us like that, you'll get sent on a suicide mission, soldier!" Gwyneth wasn't very happy with the revelation her returned memories brought her. And after that...head to the Exalted Plains (mostly to help out Solas with his quest) and the Emerald Graves...more pretty green
Will likely not be touching Wicked Eyes before the week is out...maybe even longer 15) How did you have your Lavellan react to all the Fake!Justinina shenanigans?
Did you take your Venatori tomes (for the Rift Mage) from the guys on the plains or from somewhere else? As my Adaar was preparing to go Rift Mage, I was pretty frustrated that there's barely any way to get them otherwise. They are dropped by average Venatori mages at times (and Adaar had them galore in the Hinterlands due to having done CotJ), but even the dudes in Dorian's quest had empty pockets, so it was dashing across the plains, trying not to get distracted by side quests and loot the first two quest Venatori, then back to Skyhold to open Ghilan'nain's grove to find the last one (after killing the welcome party of what feels like over 9000 level 15 Gurguts). Pushing WE&WH back is a very normal habit for a DAI player. Though I did it before HLTA on my Adaar mage. She took great pride in trolling all those fops and finally bullying the trio into an uneasy co-op. 7) Well...human Andrastian who's been raised with the standards of the Tevinter Chantry could also be interesting A while back I had an idea for a Dreamer mage who was also a shapeshifter...but that's likely over-powered plus I doubt they'll bring back shapeshifter
13) there's an option that says "give him mercy" which has Leli slit his throat without any comment of her own. I do think Future!Leli doesn't care what you think at that given time, she's even more dangerous then steeled Leliana and that's saying something. And yeah, I managed to safe everyone...was tempted to let Seggrit and Minaeve die but my Lavellan is a "help everyone even if they refuse to thank me for it" person
14) Fandom has dubbed that guy Jim...no idea who started with it and why though. But I just love the scout's confused look, then he sees the Inquisitor and you can almost hear the poor bloke thinking "I screwed up big time". I'm guessing Cullen sends him to the Western Approach...or maybe Emprise du Lion, either massive heat or freezing cold
15) Angry...mostly angry Gwyneth keeps insisting she isn't a chosen one or has been send by some god or whatever. Her only regret is that she couldn't safe the Divine at the time. She was also very adamant to be named Inquisitor, she tried to refuse but Cassandra pulled out the puppy eyes (in her way) and she relented
For the venatori tomes...one of mine dropped during the quest you do for Dorian (one less Venatori) and the other two from random Vints in the Oasis
I've just gotten the "find Hero of Ferelden" mission from Leli...I always find it funny how she can't find her alleged best friend (first time I got that mission from Morrigan)
or maybe she knows (just like Varric does about Hawke) and just refuses to tell anyone
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 15:42:53 GMT
I think if mages' focus abilieties were flipped, they'd make much more sense. Haste for battle-oriented Knight-Enchanter, Resurgence for Rift Mage (considering Spirit Healing requires good connection to the Fade and this spec has the best connection of the three) and Firestorm for Necromancer (seeing as even Dorian starts with fire spells). I have little to no problem with warriors' focus abilities. As for rogues... Artificer's makes sense for Varric and if Inquisitor uses bow, but if they go dw, it makes little sense. Assassin's fits the fantasy, but I'd say it's the weakest of rogue abilities (Assassin deserved more damage-oriented focus). Tempest's focus ability is my favourite rogue one, but in my opinion it fits Assassin better. I also don't know how I feel about the fact it's Sera's skill, who is mostly portrayed as archer, while her focus ability implies melee... Can argue with at least half of that, but sice it was "I asked - you answered" situation, it is only polite to say "thank you for your answer". but I worded it poorly and it wasn't really clear Think not. Pretty sure ask anyone here and see "It is obviously a joke". I am a people person due to profession included only with alive communication. Most of the time simply can't understand written jokes. And hell of those "emojies" prevent from understanding. Though very often use sarcasm myself which, in return, many people also do not understand. You have plenty of people here who can understand what you mean - proving above-mentioned words fact.
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 16:07:23 GMT
also started Cullen's romance What about those "strict" dalish traditions we see in DAO at least in two dalish clans? Your Keeper must be very dissapointed and ashamed about your behavior. Are you going to use a table as well? Cullen I can understand, though could at least give a flower, sing a poem, bring a killed beast from the forest considering his mind state as an addict trying to get rid of drugs. Something happened to the dalish traditions since DAO?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jul 2, 2020 17:20:51 GMT
also started Cullen's romance What about those "strict" dalish traditions we see in DAO at least in two dalish clans? Your Keeper must be very dissapointed and ashamed about your behavior. Are you going to use a table as well? Cullen I can understand, though could at least give a flower, sing a poem, bring a killed beast from the forest considering his mind state as an addict trying to get rid of drugs. Something happened to the dalish traditions since DAO? [disgusted noise]
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 17:34:00 GMT
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jul 2, 2020 18:03:02 GMT
your comment made it sound like I should be ashamed for romancing Cullen with a Dalish character
who would be better in that case?
Sera? She ridicules a Dalish Inquisitor and tells them to "forget" about their beliefs if they want to remain her romantic partner Solas? He wants to destroy the world and doesn't view Lavellan as a "true elf" treating her like a child on several occasions and is in theory old enough to be her father ten times over
Clan Lavellan is known to be rather tolerant of humans, willing to work together with them and trading freely with them as well your comment about "your Keeper would be ashamed" is irrelevant since they never give any indication whether they'd care about it or not
there's also a 50% chance of getting your clan killed during the war table quests leading to that comment also being irrelevant since they'd be dead and no longer caring
Each clan has their own traditions and beliefs, my Lavellan is open about humans and young (I head canon her as being a mere 20 years old when Inquisition starts) so she sees a handsome man and finds him interesting, certainly she has her reservations about him (given the fact he used to be a templar) but decides to give him a chance and grows to care for him.
Sure Cullen's romance isn't ideal, but show me one in Dragon Age that is, all of them have enough baggage to choke a dragon. And as an added bonus, during their romance he never makes her feel irrelevant, never ridicules her beliefs and even allows her to honor them during their marriage rites.
You play your Dalish how you want, and I'll play mine as I want, alright?
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Post by Sonya on Jul 2, 2020 18:23:27 GMT
your comment made it sound like I should be ashamed for romancing Cullen with a Dalish character I simply asked about your RP Dalish side as did not know that part. Simple as that. There was no any intention to offend or insult. If it sounded like that - I am sorry. Sarcasm was used but not seen. Nice chatting.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Jul 2, 2020 20:27:57 GMT
Today Gwyneth spend most of her time clearing out Crestwood and the Western Approach of demons, Venatori and other nuisances fought off two dragons (one in Crestwood and the other in the Approach) got a date with Cullen to a pretty lake (Gwyneth accepted his lucky coin)
Helped Cole become more human, and helped Solas with finding his spirit friend Wisdom (had him spare the silly shems for a change, generally I allow him to kill them)
Currently in the Exalted Plains, already got into the good graces of the local Dalish clan (Gwyneth was glad to see some of her own people again) cleared out some demons for them, found a golden halla and also a lost member (sadly he'd died), they got me some strange glyphs as thanks which allowed us to unlock Dirthamen's temple. Will be heading there tomorrow. Also took care of most of the civil war related stuff, just head to cross the river to look at Celene's people. And also need to clear out Ghilan'nain's Grove. Will also likely need to return there at some point for Vivienne's quest (already got her back her books). Got another mosaic (Archdemon) finished, and busy with gather another two or three (should be possible to finish up another one once we head to the Emerald Graves)
I've also started up the "find Hero of Ferelden" war table mission, which should be completed tomorrow as well
For tomorrow I've planned: - Finishing up the Exalted Plains - Clear out the Lost Temple of Dirthamen - Head to the Emerald Graves (mostly to get to the first part of Before the Dawn (in order to weaken Samson's armor)
For today's screenshot One that's somewhat simple yet sweet
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Post by melbella on Jul 2, 2020 20:36:14 GMT
What do you intent to do with the Crestwood store? Is that one of these buy/sell stuff quickly to glitch in more gold? No, it's a mod I installed that replaces the Crestwood store's normal inventory with all the specialization token items and also changes what they pay out to same as (or close to) the buy cost. Normally I just use it to sell cheap stuff but this game I decided to not sell anything until I get there. I also have a bigger inventory mod...current capacity is 1000 items instead of the paltry 70 or whatever the game gives you to begin with.
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Post by Sokemis on Jul 3, 2020 1:19:15 GMT
Rascoth Just remember to stay away from Chaotic Focus Good point, losing barrier is kinda the opposite of what she would want huh, lol. Any spells from the Winter and/or Inferno trees that you would recommend? Don't know how many points I actually want to spend in them, so want to be able to make the most of what I do take. Winter Stillness you already mentioned. I was thinking Fade Step would help her in quickly moving to the outskirts of the fight. Mana Surge may not be an essential, but can't hurt. If they're going to take down my barrier, at least the barrier can take a piece out of them on it's way out Though that would also mean being required to spend a point on Winter's Grasp. Fire spells are fun, but don't know how helpful they would be for this particular build. I wouldn't focus too much on Spirit Blade, considering it was greatly crippled and with support mage you'd want Winter Stillness to activate as often as possible and Spirit Blade might break it. Won't lie, Fade Shield + Spirit Blade is the only thing that got me through a couple dragon fights in the past (on PS3). If I remember right, they weren't necessarily the quickest fights, but at least I survived, lol. But then again my reaction to not doing well in a fight when still learning a game sometimes tends to "hack it, if that doesn't work then slash it" regardless of class. Probably not going to use the Spirit Blade itself too much with Lalani this time around though. It it a little fun from a roleplay perspective though. She may not be a battle mage by any stretch of the imagination, but Lalani's first husband (spear-weilding hunter in the clan) taught her to use a bladed staff as a back-up weapon incase she was ever attacked and her magic failed her (well, trained her enough that she could "poke them in the eye and run away" at least). Now she can practice swordplay with LI Cullen That being said, with proper set-up from your planned party (and maybe some fade-touched guard-on-hit), I doubt you'll ever need to use Resurgence You underestimate my ability to screwup in a fight Sonya Maybe you played DAO and DA2 supporters to share your experience? Suspect (only suspect as have not tried yet) in DAO it could be more interesting to be a supporter (as well as in DA2) in comparison with DAI at least due to spells and actually working tactics. It is definitely so much easier to build a healer/support mage in DAO and DA2 - especially since they both actually have a healer specialization. I did have a support mage in DAO, but the mage origin is probably the one I've played the least in that game and it's been years since I've played her, so can't really remember her build or how well it worked. Although now that you got me thinking about her again, I wasn't thinking of her when I was coming up with Lalani, but they are actually very similar. Both support/healer, similar personalities (Surana was a bit more shy/timid, but that might just be the difference between being raised in the Circle vs raised to be the next Keeper of the clan), both dark-haired elves with blueish eyes, both fell in love with ex-Templars..... Now I'm starting to wonder if my Lavellan has a sister (that was captured by Templars and taken to the Circle) that even I didn't know about until now, lol. *Thinks about Lalani's backstory-in-progress* Hmm, it could work... My healer mage in DA2 (spirit healer/force mage) was more of a healer/crowd control, but she did her fair share of knocking people in the head with her staff as well - so not a purely support build. My favorite thing with her was running around taking care of the gangs (especially late game) with Fenris, Aveline, and Varric. Once the mob spawned, Hawke would cast Tempest-Firestorm-Chain Lightning (so much fun ) on the biggest part of the crowd. Then Fenris and Aveline would rush in take care of the ones that were actually able to get back up, as well as the those that were outside the area of attack, while Varric targeted the ranged enemies and Hawke (after quickly checking if the team needed any healing or other support) focused on any enemy mages/highest ranking enemy still standing. I imagine that group working together over the years got that particular tactic down to an artform, because it was pretty effective. who doesn't love having a lightsaber spirit blade? There are some. My reason to start over was because of SB included. I am not a SB fan, but there were situations where just had to use it as "no tactics/team acts stupid/etc". It was more a joke than anything. As a Star Wars fan I just like being able to carry around the Thedas version of a lightsaber. Bad as really like Dorian-Sera PBs. Viv-Sera PBs can also be interesting, but Dorian? He is like Zevran and Varric - PB with the dullest companion will be funny. Guess it is simply part of their nature - talk about "whatever" but we get interesting, funny and even serious outcomes. Not that I necessarily actually want Zev and/or Dorian as companions in DA4*, but it would almost be worth it just for their mutual banter alone, lol. *Although I would love properly done cameos from either/both of them, they are two of my favorite characters in the series. Buckeldemon Though I personally would not waste spend a point on Veiled Riposte (except for the +3 magic). 20% damage return seems pretty low, given how much hitpoints hostiles have compared to the damage they can cause. Thank you for the tip, I appreciate it Sokemis mentioned going mama bear in another thread, while my Lavellan is probably more inclined to turn Minaeve into an ash pile right then and there for being an insufferable templar fangirl and not getting the predicament behind her story. Lalani's protective instincts are probably a bit high, and being a mother herself, I think her anger at how 7yr old Minaeve was treated overrode any feelings she may have about adult Minaeve. Another of my Dalish Inquisitors would probably be more inclined to agree with your Lavellan.
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 3, 2020 5:41:49 GMT
Just remember to stay away from Chaotic Focus Good point, losing barrier is kinda the opposite of what she would want huh, lol. Any spells from the Winter and/or Inferno trees that you would recommend? Don't know how many points I actually want to spend in them, so want to be able to make the most of what I do take. Winter Stillness you already mentioned. I was thinking Fade Step would help her in quickly moving to the outskirts of the fight. Mana Surge may not be an essential, but can't hurt. If they're going to take down my barrier, at least the barrier can take a piece out of them on it's way out Though that would also mean being required to spend a point on Winter's Grasp. Fire spells are fun, but don't know how helpful they would be for this particular build. Fade Step is good idea, for clutch situation and for general movement (and you need either this or Winter's Grasp for Winter Stillness, although if you want Mana Surge, you'd need to take Winter's Grasp as well). Flashpoint and Clean Burn are also good things to have, especially Clean Burn for that sweet cooldown reduction. But it really depends whether or not you have skill points left Was it pre-Patch 10? Or post-Patch 10? Because as I ranted mentioned in this thread before, these are completely two different experiences with Spirit Blade I really like the story behind her using it tho. You mean regular screwup or "ups, I didn't mean to drag half the Hinterlands into this fight"? Not to mention "I didn't mean to Fade Step from that cliff!"
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Post by Sokemis on Jul 3, 2020 17:25:30 GMT
Fade Step is good idea, for clutch situation and for general movement (and you need either this or Winter's Grasp for Winter Stillness, although if you want Mana Surge, you'd need to take Winter's Grasp as well). Flashpoint and Clean Burn are also good things to have, especially Clean Burn for that sweet cooldown reduction. But it really depends whether or not you have skill points left Think I'll probably just take Fade Step and Winter Stillness for now. May go back and revisit the other ones if I had spare points later in the game. Was it pre-Patch 10? Or post-Patch 10? Because as I ranted mentioned in this thread before, these are completely two different experiences with Spirit Blade I really like the story behind her using it tho.I want to say pre-Patch, or at least pre-my PS3 hooked up to any internet/wifi and therefore unable to download any patches. And thanks The fact that she has a scar on her jawline from the first time a blade was added to the practice staff and she managed to smack herself in the face with it (she just cleaned and bandaged it without magically healing it - she was oddly proud of her first "battle scar".... her husband one the other hand was starting to question this particular line of action) is probably proof that Spirit Blade probably shouldn't be her go-to weapon anyway, lol. My Lavellan is a little, how do you say, dexterity-challenged.You mean regular screwup or "ups, I didn't mean to drag half the Hinterlands into this fight"? Not to mention "I didn't mean to Fade Step from that cliff!"Um, both (I blame the Warden for disarming every beartrap in Ferelden)? Except instead of Fade Stepping off a cliff, I Leaping Shot myself into the Fallow Mire swamp (for the second time) bringing in more undead, after panicking when a demon started to materialize under my feet. Then there was also the time in DA2 that I triggered both a quest related mob and a normal night-time gang at the same time, so I ran away thinking the others would disengage and the area would reset itself, expect all I accomplished was running into the middle of another gang. You know those fanfics where the player somehow gets magically transported into the game and becomes the Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor? Yeah, it's probably in Thedas's best interest if that never happens to me, lol.
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Post by Rascoth on Jul 3, 2020 20:40:59 GMT
Was it pre-Patch 10? Or post-Patch 10? Because as I ranted mentioned in this thread before, these are completely two different experiences with Spirit Blade I really like the story behind her using it tho.I want to say pre-Patch, or at least pre-my PS3 hooked up to any internet/wifi and therefore unable to download any patches. And thanks The fact that she has a scar on her jawline from the first time a blade was added to the practice staff and she managed to smack herself in the face with it (she just cleaned and bandaged it without magically healing it - she was oddly proud of her first "battle scar".... her husband one the other hand was starting to question this particular line of action) is probably proof that Spirit Blade probably shouldn't be her go-to weapon anyway, lol. My Lavellan is a little, how do you say, dexterity-challenged.Just checked, must be pre-Patch 10, since that patch didn't even come out on PS3. "Dexterity-challanged", I love it The whole story with scar reminds me of my canon Quizzy, she also has scar on her face, though it's on her left nostril. From misfired spell (she may or may not tried to show off ).Ah, DA2 and its ambushes. You'd think Kirkwall thugs would learn to not ambush Hawke, but at the same time Kirkwall was never a place for sane and/or reasonable. I used Fade Step as example since we're talking about mages, but sure Leaping Shot works as well. Just like Charging Bull. I'm guilty of doing something absolutely stupid with all three of them, so...Same here. My Mabari would do better job than me at being the Warden/Hawke/Inquisitor
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Post by melbella on Jul 4, 2020 4:17:20 GMT
Found the astrarium room on the Storm Coast, then headed across the Waking Sea to the Black Emporium. I bought the tier 1 schematics (the spendy ones are already nugged) and some tier 2 cloth, then took a boat to Val Royeaux. Alas, no runestones yet but detoured to the Ghislain estate to watch Vivienne put on a show and then get rejected. Ooh, she didn't like that one bit! I have not gone to see her before but this was the first time I went to see her but turned down her power grab.
Then it was back to Haven to go get the mages. Headed into the future with Dorian, Sera, and Cassandra. After getting back, allied with the mages to save them from the wrath of Alistair and Anora.
Now I can either start the whole close the breach/defend Haven/find Skyhold sequence or.....I can go to the smelly swamp and rescue some soldiers. Ooh, but that gives me Sky Watcher so I might have to do that sooner rather than later. With nug seeds for blood lotus I never have to go back there again.
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