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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 10:57:58 GMT
I made it so that during Origins, Loghain is recruited (but later dies against Archie) and Alistair exiled (aka. he becomes a drunk) I always assumed that Alistair would be the Warden ally in Inquisition in that scenario, but when I try to pick the "Alistair died in the Fade" option during HLtA it says I can't In that scenario you have Stroud as ally, so that's why you can't have Alistair dying in the Fade. So nothing odd about it.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 11:11:30 GMT
I made it so that during Origins, Loghain is recruited (but later dies against Archie) and Alistair exiled (aka. he becomes a drunk) I always assumed that Alistair would be the Warden ally in Inquisition in that scenario, but when I try to pick the "Alistair died in the Fade" option during HLtA it says I can't In that scenario you have Stroud as ally, so that's why you can't have Alistair dying in the Fade. So nothing odd about it. Yeah, I figured that out as well...ah well *shrug*
I was trying to make a different world state then my canon one...was hoping to use that option, but if that doesn't work...so be it At least in this scenario I can imagine Alistair just sobering up and getting a (somewhat) happy life somewhere without the constant reminder of his back-stabbing so called friend (mostly 'cause so called friend disappears with Morrigan somewhere)
yeah...this Warden is not a very nice person (still does most 'good' choices...but when it comes to his companions he's going to be a bit...different) Raelyn Tabris: *cocking her crossbow* Gabriel Cousland: *oblivious*
^ (those two won't get along at all...which reminds me to never place them in a room together...my Tabris would likely kill my Cousland)
and yep...got a name for my Cousland
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 11:18:37 GMT
At least in this scenario I can imagine Alistair just sobering up and getting a (somewhat) happy life somewhere without the constant reminder of his back-stabbing so called friend (mostly 'cause so called friend disappears with Morrigan somewhere) Drunk Alistair sobers up and rejoins the Order... in Orlais. So I'm not certain he can have happy life if he ends up following Clarel I like it
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 11:25:15 GMT
At least in this scenario I can imagine Alistair just sobering up and getting a (somewhat) happy life somewhere without the constant reminder of his back-stabbing so called friend (mostly 'cause so called friend disappears with Morrigan somewhere) Drunk Alistair sobers up and rejoins the Order... in Orlais. So I'm not certain he can have happy life if he ends up following Clarel I like it Oh dear...
well...guess the name I picked for this world state is appropriate then (Paint it black (yes I name my world states after songs)
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 16, 2020 11:30:39 GMT
At least in this scenario I can imagine Alistair just sobering up and getting a (somewhat) happy life somewhere without the constant reminder of his back-stabbing so called friend (mostly 'cause so called friend disappears with Morrigan somewhere) Drunk Alistair sobers up and rejoins the Order... in Orlais. So I'm not certain he can have happy life if he ends up following Clarel Where are you getting that? I'd thought his cameo in DA2 implied he'd wind up back in Redcliffe... and get tossed out by people his mother had invited in. The Wardens we see at Adamant are both the Orlesian and the Ferelden branches of the Order, right? So if he'd rejoined the Order in Orlais, we'd still have seen him at Adamant.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 11:31:42 GMT
Drunk Alistair sobers up and rejoins the Order... in Orlais. So I'm not certain he can have happy life if he ends up following Clarel Where are you getting that? I'd thought his cameo in DA2 implied he wound up back in Redcliffe... and got tossed out by people his mother had invited in. The Wardens we see at Adamant are both the Orlesian and the Ferelden branches of the Order, right? So if he'd rejoined the Order in Orlais, we'd still have seen him at Adamant. His DAI codex: If Alistair was exiled:
Rumored to be King Maric of Ferelden's bastard son, there was a moment during the recent fifth blight where Alistair could have ascended to the throne. Instead, the throne was given to Queen Anora, daughter of the traitorous Teyrn Loghain-the very man responsible for the death of almost every Grey Warden in Ferelden at the infamous Battle of Ostagar. Disgusted, Alistair abandoned the Grey Wardens, and for years lived in disgraced exile in the Free Marches. Several years ago, Alistair was retrieved from his exile, sobered up, and eventually re-admitted to the order...though he chose to do so in Orlais rather than his homeland.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 16, 2020 11:34:56 GMT
Where are you getting that? I'd thought his cameo in DA2 implied he wound up back in Redcliffe... and got tossed out by people his mother had invited in. The Wardens we see at Adamant are both the Orlesian and the Ferelden branches of the Order, right? So if he'd rejoined the Order in Orlais, we'd still have seen him at Adamant. His DAI codex: If Alistair was exiled:
Rumored to be King Maric of Ferelden's bastard son, there was a moment during the recent fifth blight where Alistair could have ascended to the throne. Instead, the throne was given to Queen Anora, daughter of the traitorous Teyrn Loghain-the very man responsible for the death of almost every Grey Warden in Ferelden at the infamous Battle of Ostagar. Disgusted, Alistair abandoned the Grey Wardens, and for years lived in disgraced exile in the Free Marches. Several years ago, Alistair was retrieved from his exile, sobered up, and eventually re-admitted to the order...though he chose to do so in Orlais rather than his homeland. I see. Thanks for finding that. But then why wasn't he the Warden contact in LadyNemesis's hypothetical? If he'd already left the Wardens once over losing his faith in them, wouldn't you expect him to do it again in this situation?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 11:43:35 GMT
His DAI codex: If Alistair was exiled:
Rumored to be King Maric of Ferelden's bastard son, there was a moment during the recent fifth blight where Alistair could have ascended to the throne. Instead, the throne was given to Queen Anora, daughter of the traitorous Teyrn Loghain-the very man responsible for the death of almost every Grey Warden in Ferelden at the infamous Battle of Ostagar. Disgusted, Alistair abandoned the Grey Wardens, and for years lived in disgraced exile in the Free Marches. Several years ago, Alistair was retrieved from his exile, sobered up, and eventually re-admitted to the order...though he chose to do so in Orlais rather than his homeland. I see. Thanks for finding that. But then why wasn't he the Warden contact in LadyNemesis's hypothetical? If he'd already left the Wardens once over losing his faith in them, wouldn't you expect him to do it again in this situation? ^ see that's what I was wondering as well, but the Keep (and evidently the game itself) won't let you do that
maybe in this scenario Alistair winds up dead which is why we won't see him at Adamant? I mean...he could've been killed for speaking out against Clarel...used as a sacrifice...or died during a mission before the events of Inquisition even take place
but as I said above, the name I chose for this world state seems appropriate...it's kinda bleak (aside from DA 2 which is mostly similar to my canon Hawke with a few minor differences)
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 11:50:16 GMT
His DAI codex: If Alistair was exiled:
Rumored to be King Maric of Ferelden's bastard son, there was a moment during the recent fifth blight where Alistair could have ascended to the throne. Instead, the throne was given to Queen Anora, daughter of the traitorous Teyrn Loghain-the very man responsible for the death of almost every Grey Warden in Ferelden at the infamous Battle of Ostagar. Disgusted, Alistair abandoned the Grey Wardens, and for years lived in disgraced exile in the Free Marches. Several years ago, Alistair was retrieved from his exile, sobered up, and eventually re-admitted to the order...though he chose to do so in Orlais rather than his homeland. I see. Thanks for finding that. But then why wasn't he the Warden contact in LadyNemesis's hypothetical? If he'd already left the Wardens once over losing his faith in them, wouldn't you expect him to do it again in this situation? If he was in Orlais, I don't see how Hawke was supposed to contact him. It's not like he left them a note "hey, remember me? I'm that drunk you met, I rejoined the Wardens, call me in case of emergency". Anyway, in that particular world state contacting Stroud, who Hawke - even if only for a short moment - already knew (since it's him appearing at the end of Act II if Alistair's a drunk) or Loghain, who refused to answer call to Orlais (though the same could be said about Stroud), seems more logical. As for him not leaving again, I'd say it's similar situation as with Dark Ritual. He objects Loghain because of his personal vendetta and leaves not to serve with him, but when proposed to do Dark Ritual, something he doesn't agree with that much, in the end he still does it. Maybe the same could be said about situation in Orlais, where he's more accepting of what the Order is doing, since it's the means to stop the Blight that does not interfere with his personal feelings? Goals? That or as LadyofNemesis suggests, he might already be dead.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 12:09:59 GMT
lmao having the lock bash mod installed is hilarious if you have no weapons equipped Cousland guard: milord! Your son is punching doors and chests again! Bryce: *sighs* Gabriel:
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 16, 2020 12:18:20 GMT
I see. Thanks for finding that. But then why wasn't he the Warden contact in LadyNemesis's hypothetical? If he'd already left the Wardens once over losing his faith in them, wouldn't you expect him to do it again in this situation? If he was in Orlais, I don't see how Hawke was supposed to contact him. It's not like he left them a note "hey, remember me? I'm that drunk you met, I rejoined the Wardens, call me in case of emergency". Anyway, in that particular world state contacting Stroud, who Hawke - even if only for a short moment - already knew (since it's him appearing at the end of Act II if Alistair's a drunk) or Loghain, who refused to answer call to Orlais (though the same could be said about Stroud), seems more logical. As for him not leaving again, I'd say it's similar situation as with Dark Ritual. He objects Loghain because of his personal vendetta and leaves not to serve with him, but when proposed to do Dark Ritual, something he doesn't agree with that much, in the end he still does it. Maybe the same could be said about situation in Orlais, where he's more accepting of what the Order is doing, since it's the means to stop the Blight that does not interfere with his personal feelings? Goals? That or as LadyofNemesis suggests, he might already be dead. I could believe he's already dead, but I don't think I could see him accepting Clarel's plan in Drunkistair World-States. For one thing, he has serious hang-ups about blood magic. He gets over them if you have him do the Dark Ritual, but the Dark Ritual doesn't require mass human sacrifice. For another, he doesn't accept Clarel's plan in World-States where he didn't become a wandering drunk. Why would he in World-States where he did?
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Post by azarhal on Sept 16, 2020 12:21:22 GMT
this world state seems appropriate...it's kinda bleak (aside from DA2
This read as if DA2 is not bleak...
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 12:34:49 GMT
this world state seems appropriate...it's kinda bleak (aside from DA2
This read as if DA2 is not bleak... meh, DA2 in itself is still plenty bleak I just meant in terms of killing people (companions and such)
see...the Origins party isn't going to include everyone this time around, both Sten and Zevran aren't going to be recruited... Alistair will get exiled, Morrigan leaves during end-game and Loghain is going to be ah...sacrificed I just wonder how to keep Wynne alive during the events of Broken Circle and still support the templars (I mean, I know it's possible if you at least keep Irving alive...)
And in Inquisition...well...things will be different as well (I'm going to replay my male Inquisitor with the same choices as I did when I first played him, barring a few of them)
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Sept 16, 2020 12:40:43 GMT
I just wonder how to keep Wynne alive during the events of Broken Circle and still support the templars (I mean, I know it's possible if you at least keep Irving alive...) What I did when I wanted to recruit the templars was I saved Irving and got everything set up such that I could have recruited the mages... and then agreed with Cullen during his rant that the Circle mages I'd just saved "might have demons in them lying in wait." I still got to keep Wynne. Although I'm not sure I'd call that "supporting the templars," given that in this game the templars and mages are actually on the same side, and that Gregoir looked completely crushed when I suggested following Cullen's advice.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 12:43:22 GMT
If he was in Orlais, I don't see how Hawke was supposed to contact him. It's not like he left them a note "hey, remember me? I'm that drunk you met, I rejoined the Wardens, call me in case of emergency". Anyway, in that particular world state contacting Stroud, who Hawke - even if only for a short moment - already knew (since it's him appearing at the end of Act II if Alistair's a drunk) or Loghain, who refused to answer call to Orlais (though the same could be said about Stroud), seems more logical. As for him not leaving again, I'd say it's similar situation as with Dark Ritual. He objects Loghain because of his personal vendetta and leaves not to serve with him, but when proposed to do Dark Ritual, something he doesn't agree with that much, in the end he still does it. Maybe the same could be said about situation in Orlais, where he's more accepting of what the Order is doing, since it's the means to stop the Blight that does not interfere with his personal feelings? Goals? That or as LadyofNemesis suggests, he might already be dead. I could believe he's already dead, but I don't think I could see him accepting Clarel's plan in Drunkistair World-States. For one thing, he has serious hang-ups about blood magic. He gets over them if you have him do the Dark Ritual, but the Dark Ritual doesn't require mass human sacrifice. For another, he doesn't accept Clarel's plan in World-States where he didn't become a wandering drunk. Why would he in World-States where he did? I wouldn't say he's that accepting of Dark Ritual, he questions Warden's decision about it in DAI. Would he accept Clarel's plan? I seriously don't know. I don't think he would approve, but since we don't know enough about drunkard Alistair, how much time he spent with Orlesian Wardens (codex only mentions he joined them, not at what point between his DA2 appearance and DAI that was), how much he changed in regards to Warden duty... he might see it as something that needs to be done. He didn't really react to Duncan killing Ser Jory, and that was before he saw horrors of the Blight and years of drunk wandering, who knows how much he's willing to accept now as part of "greater good" and he views "willing" sacrifice at that point (I don't remember if it was mentioned how many were willing like the man Clarel sacrifices and how many were dragged like the one we see in the Western Approach). As for why Warden Alistair doesn't accept it, but drunkard possibly could... 10 years of completely different life, surrounded by completely different people. I'm not saying it makes much sense, for Warden ally to trully make sense, Warden Bethany/Carver should be added to options. As it is now, there are 3 options and I think whole situation with drunkard Alistar not being possible Warden ally, despite codex suggesting he returned to the Order, might have more to do with having somehow equal chance of encountering each one of them than with proper reasoning ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 12:47:46 GMT
I just wonder how to keep Wynne alive during the events of Broken Circle and still support the templars (I mean, I know it's possible if you at least keep Irving alive...) What I did when I wanted to recruit the templars was I saved Irving and then agree with Cullen during his rant that the Circle mages I'd just saved "might have demons in them lying in wait." Although I'm not sure I'd call that "supporting the templars," given that in this game the templars and mages are actually on the same side, and that Gregoir looked completely crushed when I suggested following Cullen's advice. Yeah...I kinda call it a grey area...
I wish that more of the games showed this type of set up...most of my (mage) Wardens are of the "why can't everyone just get along?" type which is why I wished there'd been an option for both of them to help the Warden (and Inquisitor)...I mean, why must it always be one or the other?
This current Warden is more...well, he's a devout Andrastian and sometimes a bit of a prick...so him supporting the templars makes sense...kinda...sorta? Part of me really doesn't want to do this playthrough, but I promised myself I wanted to do a male and female world state
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Post by azarhal on Sept 16, 2020 13:01:58 GMT
This read as if DA2 is not bleak... meh, DA2 in itself is still plenty bleak I just meant in terms of killing people (companions and such) see...the Origins party isn't going to include everyone this time around, both Sten and Zevran aren't going to be recruited... Alistair will get exiled, Morrigan leaves during end-game and Loghain is going to be ah...sacrificed I just wonder how to keep Wynne alive during the events of Broken Circle and still support the templars (I mean, I know it's possible if you at least keep Irving alive...) lol, that's basically the PT I just did in DAO. I guess you could add killing Leliana at the ashes (and Wynne too) for a total "lost all companions" (kick Ohgren out too), but I'm not sure you want to solo the end of the game thought... Be real careful when dealing with Cullen, as Wynne can turn on you if you accept his request to kill all the mages right before entering the room and saving the Grand Enchanter depending on your dialogue choices.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 13:07:32 GMT
lol, that's basically the PT I just did in DAO. I guess you could add killing Leliana at the ashes (and Wynne too) for a total "lost all companions" (kick Ohgren out too), but I'm not sure you want to solo the end of the game thought... You can also extend that list with Shale killed with Caridin (if recruited)
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 13:12:16 GMT
meh, DA2 in itself is still plenty bleak I just meant in terms of killing people (companions and such) see...the Origins party isn't going to include everyone this time around, both Sten and Zevran aren't going to be recruited... Alistair will get exiled, Morrigan leaves during end-game and Loghain is going to be ah...sacrificed I just wonder how to keep Wynne alive during the events of Broken Circle and still support the templars (I mean, I know it's possible if you at least keep Irving alive...) lol, that's basically the PT I just did in DAO. I guess you could add killing Leliana at the ashes (and Wynne too) for a total "lost all companions" (kick Ohgren out too), but I'm not sure you want to solo the end of the game thought... Be real careful when dealing with Cullen, as Wynne can turn on you if you accept his request to kill all the mages right before entering the room and saving the Grand Enchanter depending on your dialogue choices. Heh, after reading your playthrough I don't think it's going to be easy to do that
besides, for a human noble Dog is always mandatory so I can't not recruit him I guess I could always deny Oghren's request to join, but then again he always shows up during Awakening as if nothing happened
this playthrough is making my head spin and I haven't even left the Origin yet
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Post by azarhal on Sept 16, 2020 13:13:06 GMT
lol, that's basically the PT I just did in DAO. I guess you could add killing Leliana at the ashes (and Wynne too) for a total "lost all companions" (kick Ohgren out too), but I'm not sure you want to solo the end of the game thought... You can also extend that list with Shale killed with Caridin (if recruited) Did that!!! I finished the game with Alistair, Dog and Leliana as my companions.
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 14:49:20 GMT
You can also extend that list with Shale killed with Caridin (if recruited) Did that!!! I finished the game with Alistair, Dog and Leliana as my companions. And thus you doomed Ferelden to pigeon infestation
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Post by Buckeldemon on Sept 16, 2020 15:05:51 GMT
lmao having the lock bash mod installed is hilarious if you have no weapons equipped Cousland guard: milord! Your son is punching doors and chests again! Bryce: *sighs* Gabriel: Well, that is what daddy Cousland gets for locking everything and giving nobody any keys, even as the castle is attacked. Seriously, the HN OS is riddiculous in that regard. This current Warden is more...well, he's a devout Andrastian and sometimes a bit of a prick...so him supporting the templars makes sense...kinda...sorta? Part of me really doesn't want to do this playthrough, but I promised myself I wanted to do a male and female world state this playthrough is making my head spin and I haven't even left the Origin yet Most "devout andrastians" are pricks without noticing. As for the rest... well, you seem to have a masochist streak again. THAT is the absolute evil. One does not simply prevent the flying fiends from shitting all over Thedas with just fireballs. I tried it and it is impossible. A golem fist is needed as well.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Sept 16, 2020 15:16:14 GMT
lmao having the lock bash mod installed is hilarious if you have no weapons equipped Cousland guard: milord! Your son is punching doors and chests again! Bryce: *sighs* Gabriel: 1) Well, that is what daddy Cousland gets for locking everything and giving nobody any keys, even as the castle is attacked. Seriously, the HN OS is riddiculous in that regard. This current Warden is more...well, he's a devout Andrastian and sometimes a bit of a prick...so him supporting the templars makes sense...kinda...sorta? Part of me really doesn't want to do this playthrough, but I promised myself I wanted to do a male and female world state this playthrough is making my head spin and I haven't even left the Origin yet 2) Most "devout andrastians" are pricks without noticing. As for the rest... well, you seem to have a masochist streak again. 1) I know right? mama Cousland: take this key for the treasury/armory! Cousland: ...
2) yeah...part of me wants to just replay my Tabris again she was fun...though not sure if I'll take crossbow again...as fun as it was last time I always felt she missed 80% of her targets (I'm still trying to figure out how to add custom made items to the game...but I'm having a hard time figuring out the toolset)
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Post by Rascoth on Sept 16, 2020 15:40:00 GMT
THAT is the absolute evil. One does not simply prevent the flying fiends from shitting all over Thedas with just fireballs. I tried it and it is impossible. A golem fist is needed as well.
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Post by Nyx on Sept 16, 2020 16:12:39 GMT
Kellan Hawke decided there was no time to waste with a guard's life potentially on the line so he took Aveline, Varric, and little sis Bethany to intercept Donnic in Lowtown. Uh oh, looks like the guard captain has been up to no good. As the guards dragged their former leader away back at the keep, Hawke couldn't help but think that they hadn't seen the last of that guy. Aveline got promoted to guard captain, which definitely surprised Hawke. She's only been a guard for a year and is a foreigner to boot. That's quite the promotion for people that love to throw the term "dog lord" around all the time.
Next up it was time to raid the former Amell mansion. Their idiot of an uncle had left the will locked up on the estate, and there was only one reason Hawke could think of for him to do that. Gamlen absolutely didn't want them to know what was in it. After cheerfully slaughtering a bunch of slavers and discovering an old portrait of their mother, the Hawke sibs learn of Gamlen's dirty dealings. Thoroughly disappointed, they return to mum, and Gamlen gets a well-deserved chewing out. At least Mama Hawke now knows her parents didn't hate her after all; they hated Gamlen. Knowing Gamlen, who could really blame them? Kellan gave the portrait to Bethany, who really liked it, even though it was a reminder that if their mum had shacked up with the Comte, they probably would not exist.
With that all taken care of, Hawke felt like it was as good a time as any to chat with Varric in the Hanged Man, where the dwarf apparently lived. Varric told him about a Grey Warden in the city who could potentially help them get into the Deep Roads. So off they went to Lirene's where Hawke had to practically beg the lady to give up info on the guy. Turns out he's a mage too and everyone is super protective of him. Makes sense. Hawke's met the Templars in this city, and they are a special brand of fanatically devoted.
At the healer's clinic in Darktown, Hawke and Co. meet Anders for the first time. Hawke wasn't sure what he was expecting a Grey Warden to look like but it was not Anders. Oh well, the guy says he can help them. He just needs his own favor done first. Of course. Varric wasn't kidding. There really was not a lack of work to be found in the city. Everyone was practically begging Hawke to help them with their problems, including that snooty magistrate what's-his-name. He'd get to that job later.
Meanwhile, Hawke had picked up a job that felt pretty urgent. After delivering Merrill to her new hut/"home" in the alienage, he had come across a Dalish woman desperately seeking answers about her son from a templar. Turns out she had tried to send Feynriel to the Circle to deal with his nightmares, but, no surprise, he didn't like that idea and split. A quick chat with the absent father revealed he had sent his son to some former templar named Samson. Well now, that couldn't possibly go wrong, could it? Oops, turned out Samson might've accidentally set up Feynriel and some other poor mage girl for slavery. Confronting the slaver in Darktown, Hawke revealed that he would not make a good slave, because he tends to put blades against the throats of nasty slavers. A fight ensued, but of course Hawke and his friends were victorious. They learned that Feynriel had been taken to the Wounded Coast, and it was time for a rescue mission.
Oh wait, someone else had been taken to the Wounded Coast too, the viscount's soon. Hawke had accidentally overheard some bitchy mercenary accepting a rescue contract from the steward so he had volunteered to do a much better job at rescuing. Well now it looked like he could rescue two guys in one expedition. It was a win-win.
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