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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 5, 2020 2:30:50 GMT
I don't understand why I do all the shard picking. I'm not feeing like 100% the game...and I probably have enough power to rush to the ending now. Are you planning on taking this Quizzy into tDWR? I had Natalya Lavellan do it because I plan on doing that with her, the choice is reflected in the Keep, and I'd feel weird if she hadn't done it. Anyway, Weeper Cadash is done fully upgrading all of his potions. (Or, the ones I have. I don't have the Lightning and Spirit Resistance potions, and I'm saving those for later.) Belwether Trevelyan is finishing up with that task. (And to answer melbella 's question from earlier, it turns out both of them have the Optimal Cutting perk. Natalya does too, and I think Saar'Kata must? I mean, there's only so many perks competing for my points...) Edit: And Belwether and Saar'Kata are both finished now. Also, yeah, Saar'Kata has Optimal Cutting too.
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Post by Rascoth on Oct 5, 2020 5:26:58 GMT
Defeated the level 27 despair demons Aren't they level 30? You're undermining your feat
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Post by azarhal on Oct 5, 2020 11:35:09 GMT
I don't understand why I do all the shard picking. I'm not feeing like 100% the game...and I probably have enough power to rush to the ending now. Are you planning on taking this Quizzy into tDWR? I had Natalya Lavellan do it because I plan on doing that with her, the choice is reflected in the Keep, and I'd feel weird if she hadn't done it. tDWR? Sorry I can't seems to find what those refers to right now.
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Post by melbella on Oct 5, 2020 11:37:51 GMT
Defeated the level 27 despair demons Aren't they level 30? You're undermining your feat
Are they? I guess all I saw was the bright red skull.
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Post by Rascoth on Oct 5, 2020 12:10:57 GMT
Aren't they level 30? You're undermining your feat
Are they? I guess all I saw was the bright red skull. Yup, these cold-spewing bastards are lvl30
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Post by Buckeldemon on Oct 5, 2020 14:34:14 GMT
Yeah, depending on your previous relation, her reaction can be really absurd. Though I don't know if she does remember Hawke stealing denying the tool regardless of relation in Act3. I cannot quite remember what I did in my PT (might have had full rivalry locked in before Mirror Image), but stealing denying that tool is in my view one of these dick moves I was going on about, if not for Merrill, then towards the Dalish. Of course, Marethari is a somewhat of an ass here. 1) I head canon that Hawke gives it back to Marethari at some point. It's not like Merrill was going to keep it after she fixed the mirror. And no she doesn't remember in Act 3, the mirror was fixed with the tool per conversation with Merrill. It happened in my last PT a few weeks ago. It's clearly a bug, but . 2) And I actually prefer Merrill rivalled that way personally, refuse an addict their latest fix... 1) Well, that's decent of you Hawke then. 2) Nah, from my own limited experience with addiction-related issues, I'd say it won't work that well if one does just try to hit them with the "Don't" sign.
1) I say same around here. Heck, these days I even feel a bit guilty for taking the greatest (+30) rivalry option for that conversation with Fenris after thrashing the mansion. I was like "Hey, if he's going to hate me anyway because I'm a mage, I might get the most from it." 2) I knew about Carver's line, yes, but cannot remember anything from Bethany at that point. I usually click for these comments (Hawke has some as well), especially in MotA; Tallis' remarks are sometimes different depending which character you control when clicking her. "Toast them all really" sounds Carver. Though I don't know if I'm getting this wrong, but toast could have been used for a double meaning here, either in the sense of drinking or "kill 'em all". 3) I usally make sure to meticulously set up tactics for everyone, but of course, NPCs and templarCarver cannot have that as the latter never really "rejoins" at that point unless you side with Meredith. Depending on his mood, Cullen can be very useful in keeping the slave statues occupied. Dunno if he has the usual "commander twirl aura" at this point he uses when fighting Wilmod. 1) for Fenris, the lowest you can get as a mage is +5 rivalry, which includes taking the lowest options for when he asks 'what kind of mage' you are (options being Survival/Find Out (both give +10) and when asking 'why is Danarius after you?' taking the blue option, which gives +5 friendship. Ergo, +5 rivalry 2) basically all Bethany says is something along the lines of 'keep moving' ...she sounds mostly scared while Carver sounds concerned Huh, I didn't know that about Tallis...I'll have to remember that for when I'm doing MotA this playthrough 3) I know...which is why I prefer Warden Carver. And yeah, Cullen is very good bait ( Cullen: I'm not bait! Leliana: hush, just look pretty ) 1) Hmm... gotta try that. These options even fit with the kind of Hawke I'm thinking about... 2) Eh, since MotA is basically some sort of fun vacation, why not? Also... confession: I sometimes feel kinda bad if my Hawke steals kills from Carver.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Oct 5, 2020 15:42:45 GMT
1) Hmm... gotta try that. These options even fit with the kind of Hawke I'm thinking about... 2) Eh, since MotA is basically some sort of fun vacation, why not? Also... confession: I sometimes feel kinda bad if my Hawke steals kills from Carver. 1) it's also worth noting that Fenris' dialogue changes slightly during 'Fenris recruited' if you take the romance option there Fenris: *about the wine* Danarius used to have me pour it for his guests, my appearance intimidated them he said...which he enjoyed. Hawke: I can't imagine why they'd be put off Fenris: (if you used the flirt option during Bait and Switch) you say what's on your mind, I'll give you that Fenris: (if first time flirting) I'll take that as a compliment
2) Same, which is why my female Mage Hawke's tend to be more of the support/healing types, aka. keep Carver alive in the fight (speaking of which...I restarted my Hawke as a mage again after all...I tried liking warrior, but I really can't get into her play-style , so I'm remaking a pure support/healer Hawke...which is actually more challenging then it sounds ) 3) I think it's mostly because Leliana is more about 'mage freedom', so they kinda made her his opposite (since Cullen (despite being able to romance a mage) support recruiting the templars) Also, she doesn't hate him...more like teasing him like a sister would a brother, in fact the full conversation of the one I noted above is this: in fact they have several scenes and banters together where they either tease each other or show concern for the other's well being Actually, the only time she ever gets mad at him, is if he isn't romanced and Leliana was romancing a female mage Warden, seeing as he keeps prodding Leliana for information concerning the fact if she (the Warden) ever mentioned him
most people say it's inappropriate of him to ask this, which I agree on...Though I suspect it's in part because he wonders if the Warden ever forgave him for the things he said during Broken Circle. (I head canon mine did, but I also know not everyone will feel the same)
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 5, 2020 19:30:04 GMT
Are you planning on taking this Quizzy into tDWR? I had Natalya Lavellan do it because I plan on doing that with her, the choice is reflected in the Keep, and I'd feel weird if she hadn't done it. tDWR? Sorry I can't seems to find what those refers to right now. The Dread Wolf Rises. It's the working title for the next game. Are you importing your current character into that? Anyway, I started again with Dragon Age: The Last Court last night, since it's going offline soon. I'd forgotten how frustrating the early game is, when your stats are low enough that a lot of the stat-checks are weighted towards you failing and even your higher stats are almost never a guaranteed success. I'll finish this playthrough, but I don't think I'm doing this again.
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Post by azarhal on Oct 5, 2020 19:34:58 GMT
tDWR? Sorry I can't seems to find what those refers to right now. The Dread Wolf Rises. It's the working title for the next game. Are you importing your current character into that? No wonder the acronym didn't register, I just call it DA4. I'm setting up a world state with Ewyr in the Keep despite the fact that he's a dwarven mage . The Keep isn't complaining about this impossibility, it just doesn't show a stock image for the character.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 5, 2020 19:38:20 GMT
The Dread Wolf Rises. It's the working title for the next game. Are you importing your current character into that? No wonder the acronym didn't register, I just call it DA4. I'm setting up a world state with Ewyr in the Keep despite the fact that he's a dwarven mage . The Keep isn't complaining about this impossibility, it just doesn't show a stock image for the character. That's interesting. Is it letting you input a specialization?
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Post by azarhal on Oct 5, 2020 21:22:42 GMT
No wonder the acronym didn't register, I just call it DA4. I'm setting up a world state with Ewyr in the Keep despite the fact that he's a dwarven mage . The Keep isn't complaining about this impossibility, it just doesn't show a stock image for the character. That's interesting. Is it letting you input a specialization? Just checked and yes, it let me pick a specialization. Also, while in the Heroes page there is no image, in the tapestry it shows a green symbol (stylized rift?) instead of the painted portrait (as it doesn't have dwarven mage ones).
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 5, 2020 22:05:14 GMT
That's interesting. Is it letting you input a specialization? Just checked and yes, it let me pick a specialization. Also, while in the Heroes page there is no image, in the tapestry it shows a green symbol (stylized rift?) instead of the painted portrait (as it doesn't have dwarven mage ones). I wonder if there will be any glitches going into DA4? Edit: Anyway, Guillaume Vaughn, the scholar Marquis of Serault, got pretty nastily injured fighting bandit clans in the wilds. So he's going to need to hire some doctors. Edit2: It helped, but he's still not feeling as good as he had before the fight.
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Post by Rascoth on Oct 5, 2020 22:15:43 GMT
Just checked and yes, it let me pick a specialization. Also, while in the Heroes page there is no image, in the tapestry it shows a green symbol (stylized rift?) instead of the painted portrait (as it doesn't have dwarven mage ones). I wonder if there will be any glitches going into DA4? I'm expecting heavy DA Keep update before DA4, including flag checking, so I don't think Keep will allow stuff like that to be imported. But if somehow you'd be able to import it... you know I'd try to get myself world state like that, just to see what it does to poor game
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Post by azarhal on Oct 5, 2020 23:19:02 GMT
I wonder if there will be any glitches going into DA4? I'm expecting heavy DA Keep update before DA4, including flag checking, so I don't think Keep will allow stuff like that to be imported. But if somehow you'd be able to import it... you know I'd try to get myself world state like that, just to see what it does to poor game It probably doesn't validate it in the Keep because the game doesn't support it and the dev never expected it to happen, you know. If the Inquisitor show up in DA4, it might end up hilarious...or terrible crashes. I'll just switch to a dwarven rogue or warrior instead in that case.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 5, 2020 23:41:01 GMT
I'm expecting heavy DA Keep update before DA4, including flag checking, so I don't think Keep will allow stuff like that to be imported. But if somehow you'd be able to import it... you know I'd try to get myself world state like that, just to see what it does to poor game It probably doesn't validate it in the Keep because the game doesn't support it and the dev never expected it to happen, you know. If the Inquisitor show up in DA4, it might end up hilarious...or terrible crashes. I'll just switch to a dwarven rogue or warrior instead in that case. There are some devs on this site, right? Maybe they'll read this, panic, and update the Keep to make it impossible. (Assuming they weren't already planning to, I mean.)
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Post by azarhal on Oct 6, 2020 1:09:08 GMT
Plainsquisition Ewyr helped the Dalishs in the Exalted Plains. Killed some undeads here and there. Found a golden Halla. Donated some resources, but still had to find 3 bears pelts. You think Ewyr would have some with all the ones he killed in the Hinterlands, but no, it has to be Great Bears from the Emerald Graves. Ewyr wondering where the those graves were. They sure were not on his map yet. He also found a missing Keeper not-apprentice who was looking for some Elven artifacts. Which was also found. Along some strange glyphs all over the plains that Ewyr would have to give to his researchers back at Skyhold. It was time to return to Skyhold. -------------------------- And now I have no more maps to visit. I still have some stuff to do in the Exalted Plains, but I want to get the stuff from the Emerald Graves first before finishing the Dalish stuff (and robbing them) and doing the Citadelle. I need to decide if I do Crestwood, Orlesian party or something else first and with BG3 EA releasing tomorrow...I might end up distracted from DAI a bit.
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 6, 2020 4:44:15 GMT
I got so bored waiting for my actions to refresh in The Last Court that I went ahead and rolled my next Inquisitor: Modgud Cadash. So far she's at the Temple of Sacred Ashes, about to look for a way down into the crater left when the Breach opened.
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Post by azarhal on Oct 6, 2020 11:28:50 GMT
I got so bored waiting for my actions to refresh in The Last Court that I went ahead and rolled my next Inquisitor: Modgud Cadash. So far she's at the Temple of Sacred Ashes, about to look for a way down into the crater left when the Breach opened. How many concurrent DAI PTs do you have right now?
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 6, 2020 20:31:48 GMT
I got so bored waiting for my actions to refresh in The Last Court that I went ahead and rolled my next Inquisitor: Modgud Cadash. So far she's at the Temple of Sacred Ashes, about to look for a way down into the crater left when the Breach opened. How many concurrent DAI PTs do you have right now? It depends on what you mean by "concurrent." I only ever roll a new Inquisitor after I've beaten Doom Upon All The World with my most recent one. So by that standard, I only have one active playthrough. On the other hand, if you're going by how many Inquisitors I still do anything with, I have five. I've got the one that's still only an hour or so into the main story, and four more that I do resource-gathering War Table missions (and occasionally a side-quest) with.
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Post by Sokemis on Oct 7, 2020 0:48:42 GMT
So my poor Wardens and their companions have been stuck on the mountainside since about May.... When we last left them, they were almost to the village of Haven, where they hoped to find the Urn of Sacred Ashes. The townspeople however were less than welcoming. The group began to suspect why after meeting a little boy carrying around a human bone in his pocket, an alter covered in blood (presumably human blood ), and a shop keeper that keeps dead bodies in his storeroom. Yeah this town seems normal.... Oh, and Lora kicked Sten's butt when he tried to take command. Instead of him getting mad, she actually earned respect from him for doing so. This doesn't help Lora in trying to figure him out. The folks in the Chantry weren't much more welcoming. Still, Lora at least attempted the tactful approach, Naliea however was done with their bullshit and once again cut to the chase. Once the Revered... Father? and the rest of the villagers (and a few dragonlings) were dispatched, the Wardens found the missing Brother Genitivi in a secret room. Naliea wanted to send him Denerim, but was outvoted by Leliana and Lora. So with the two ladies helping him, Genitivi managed to make his way up the the mountainside temple and showed them how the secret key worked. Thankfully he at least had enough sense to wait in the outer chamber, instead of trying to continue on with them. After fighting through more cultists (and finding stuff I can't remember what now because it's been how many months), they came to spot where the path split in two directions. Lora took Alistiar, Wynne, Leliana, and Moria (Team Chantry) to the left; while Naliea took Zevran, Sten, Morrigan, and Cahir (Team Not-So-Chantry) with her to the right. The paths met back up in the end, and they all continued on to the inner caverns to continue their search. Eventually they met the head looney leader of the cultists. Turns out they worship a dragon, believing it to reincarnation of Andraste herself. Lora called blasphemy, but luckily, instead of getting insulted and attacking (he totally did that on Lora's playthrough), Kolgrim ignored Lora and just kept dealing with Naliea. (well maybe Zevran is a little Chantry) Thank you Zevran, at least someone gets the plan. After making a deal with Kolgrim (what's a little blood magic between new friends) in order to pass to the Temple safely, the group gets their first glimpse of the so-called Andraste. Being allowed passage, the group enters the Temple and meets the Guardian that has been giving the cultists so much trouble. After poking the fresh wounds of the leaders, and needling their companions (felt bad for Alistair, Morrigan however wasn't playing his games however), the Guardian informed them only half of the group may pass into the inner sanctum. After learning what the Gauntlet entailed, the group unanimously decided that Team Chantry was best suited to continue on. Naliea and Team Not-So-Chantry went back outside to keep an eye on Kolgrim and the others. After a bittersweet reunion for Lora and a few tests of their worthiness, Team Chantry approached the Urn of Sacred Ashes. Meanwhile back outside, Kolgrim started to get antsy and a bit paranoid. Naliea tried to explain to him again that only 4 people (and a dog) could enter the inner Temple, but he wasn't buying it any longer. He was convinced that they were trying to trick him (well, they were, but not about that fact) and attacked. After the cultists were killed, Andraste entered the fray and Naliea eventually killed her as well. It's heartening how the companions treat this as such a solemn occasion when approaching the ashes: The awe, the respect, the reverence, the.... ...nevermind *best Morgan Freeman voice* "And she did behold Andraste's fiery vengeance, but not as much as Andraste beheld her steel." After learning that they found the Ashes, Brother Genitivi wanted to tell everyone about their discovery. Leliana agreed with him, but she was overruled by everyone else (well Zevran did want to charge an entrance fee, but that didn't count) and Genitivi was sent back to Denerim with instructions to not tell anyone else about what happened at the temple. I'm sure this will be the last anyone ever hears of Haven again. (Seriously though, if Alistair, Morrigan, Wynne, and Sten can all agree something is a bad idea, it's probably a bad idea. Some Haven randomness: Lora got photobombed by a dragonling At least someone is having fun Some shots of the glorious Andraste (and one of the obscene Andraste?) Shale and return to Redcliffe will be in next post, because I'm paranoid about the page accidently closing and losing this post while I eat dinner and do laundry....
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 7, 2020 4:45:37 GMT
Modgud Cadash watched as Mother Hevara tried grandstanding with templar protection, only to have the rug pulled out from under her. Sucked to be her, but she did walk right into that. Still, Modgud was as tactful as she could possibly be about it, and still tried to persuade Hevara to help them as she lay on the floor hoping she wasn't concussed.
Shortly after, the party got an arrow with a note on it, and an invitation to First Enchanter Vivienne's salon. They dug up the clues the note led to, but haven't actually followed the path it suggests yet. Anyway, Fiona ambushed them on the way out of the plaza, and suggested maybe they should meet with the mages instead of the templars. Modgud agreed to think about it.
From there, Modgud went to the salon, and got aggressively called out by a guy who didn't seem to realize that his balls were at uppercut level to a dwarf. But before she could demonstrate, the First Enchanter froze him solid and asked what should be done about him. Modgud asked that he be let go... but half-worried that that choice might cause her misfortune later. But when she broached the idea to Vivienne, Vivienne said no, he was about to lose everything and probably join the army.
Vivienne asked if she could join the Inquisition. Modgud flirted a bit, but got shut down hard, and agreed to let Vivienne in anyway. Then they went back to Haven, and after a quick meeting about the templars' asshattery and Fiona's willingness to talk, Modgud went outside to find a mercenary named Cremisicus Aclassi offering the location of some Tevinter soldiers... and to come work for the Inquisition. Modgud went to check it out, intrigued by the idea that the boss of Crem's band was a Qunari.
She was no less intrigued after the fight when she actually saw how tall and wide he was. Some very unladylike thoughts were going through her head that whole conversation. She was a bit concerned when he admitted he'd joined to spy on the Inquisition, but between his skills, his offer to share intelligence, and her desire to get into his trousers, he had an easy time selling his company.
She brought him along to kill some bandits called the Blades of Hessarian, and she really liked what she saw. So much so that she commissioned a greatsword using one of the designs the magic golden nug statue had put into her head, named it The Iron Fang with him in mind, and handed it to him to see what he could do with it.
They also had a long talk about the differences between their two cultures, which was mostly a pretext for Modgud to drop mountain-sized hints.
(Also, Guillaume Vaughn, the Marquis of Serault, managed to talk the head of the local abbey into sleeping with him. Good times.)
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Post by azarhal on Oct 7, 2020 11:18:58 GMT
(Also, Guillaume Vaughn, the Marquis of Serault, managed to talk the head of the local abbey into sleeping with him. Good times.) That's something...
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Post by riverdaleswhiteflash on Oct 9, 2020 10:26:35 GMT
Modgud Cadash has been fairly busy today. She recruited the Hinterlands Cult and the Blades of Hessarian and Enchanter Ellendra into the Inquisition, closed a bunch of rifts on the Storm Coast, gathered some supplies for Recruit Whittle to give out at the Hinterlands, and made a new scope for Bianca.
Also, she had a conversation about red lyrium with Varric. It turns out he had a piece of red lyrium locked in a four-layer safe, even though he knew how bad it was. (At least he hadn't added it to his weapon to give it more rune slots.)
Also, Guillaume Vaughn was quietly approached by a Seeker of Truth who claimed that Divine Justinia had disappeared a Grand Cleric, exposed dirt on a second, and informed a third that Justinia had dirt on her. Wow. No wonder Vivienne admires the Divine.
Oh, and my other four Inquisitors (Weeper Cadash, Belwether Trevelyan, Saar'Kata Adaar, and Natalya Lavellan) all did some resource gathering at the War Table.
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Post by azarhal on Oct 9, 2020 16:05:56 GMT
DAI Ewyr Cadash started the ascent of the Citadelle du Corbeau...and then stopped before reaching the top because I went back to BG3 EA. Josephine also started and completed getting a certain person a title so he would give the Inquisitor a certain amulet so he can lock his romance with Dorian.
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Post by Sokemis on Oct 10, 2020 2:26:21 GMT
On the way from Haven back to Redcliffe, the Wardens stopped in the village of Honnleath to see this supposed Golem. After killing a village full of darkspawn, they found a statue that certainly looks like a golem, but the control rod they were given didn't seem to do anything. Investigating further, they find a group of survivors hiding in a cellar behind a magical barrier. Matthias, the owner of said cellar, claims that the golem was once owned by his father until he was killed by it. He says he knows the correct words to wake the golem, but will only tell the Wardens the phrase if they first rescue his daughter who has fled further into his father's old trap filled laboratory. How hard can that be, right? Turns out it does get a little harder once you add in a possessed cat... Right, and I've got a bridge in Orlais to sell you. The look on poor Lora's face when she realizes that she's now going to have to kill the possessed girl. In Naliea's playthrough she successfully tricked the demon. In Lora's playthrough she went right to "Die Demon" mode. I was debating which to make part of the official dual-Warden canon, and in the end I went went with Lora's version (sorry Amalia). I see this as the way it would have ultimately played out: Lora strongly refusing to deal with the demon and not realizing in the moment that Naliea was trying to trick it. Plus I actually like (okay, so maybe like isn't the right word, but I'm not quite sure how to express it) the fact that now both ladies are in a way responsible for the death of a child when the other would have been able to save them from the demon. I think it adds another layer to their understanding of and interactions with each other. *Side note: This is another situation (along with using the secret tunnel to get into Redcliffe castle and finding Cullen in the magical cage) where I like having Leliana present because it referenced back to in Inquisition, although this time only in my headcanon (putting in spoiler to save space and since it has nothing to do with this playthrough): My Inquisitor (Lalani) already has a young daughter, Ella (may or may not stay her name) when my game starts. At some point, Dorian gifts her a "Tevinter wildcat" (or whatever I decide to call it) kitten, which is basically a baby Caracle (but with some Thedas sounding name). I envision the ensuing conversation to go something along the lines of this. {Dorian gives Ella the kitten. Ooohing and ahhing over the little ball of fluff ensues} {Kit gets hungry and starts screaming for food*} Cullen: What was that! Sera {hiding behind Cassandra}: It's possessed innit. Lalani: Awww, it's just a little kitten. It's probably hungry. Cullen: I grew up on a farm, we had cats. Kittens don't sound like.. like...THAT. Cassandra {still trying to un-cling Sera}: It's a cat. Demons don't possess cats. Sera: You sure? Cassandra: Yes. Sera: {coming out from behind Cassandra} Leliana: Well there was that possessed cat in Honnleath. Sera: {diving back behind Cassandra} What! Cassandra: {disgusted noise} {Lalani, Ella, and Dorian start to walk off with the kitten} Cullen: Wait, Inquisitor! We don't know if that thing's safe {turns back to Leliana in same motion} What do you mean!? Cullen: {Leliana walks off and Cullen looks back and forth before following her} What possessed cat in Honnleath? {Leliana continues to ignore him, smirking} Leliana! What cat?!....... Leliana!
*if you've never heard a baby Caracle scream and wonder why Sera would think it was possessed, here you go:
Side note to the side note: The kitten totally claims (romanced) Cullen's mantle as it's own. In the beginning, it growls at Cullen every morning when he tries to take it back to put on. Eventually they learn to share. Although understandably upset about his daughter's death, Matthais still gives the Warden's the phrase that will activate the golem. Although the rod does wake up the golem, Shale, it no longer works to control her. Shale however decides to go with the Wardens and help them anyway.... as long as she gets to squish a few pigeons along the way. Don't worry Shale, I think you'll fit in soon enough Okay, so maybe you'll fit in better with some than you will with others at first Love Shale's little "What?" shrug there at the end. Once back at Redcliffe, they don't waste any time taking the ashes to Eamon. Figuring that she wouldn't be very welcome in the castle, Naliea stayed back while Lora, Alistair, Leliana, and Wynne went inside to deliver the ashes and (hopefully) wake Eamon. After hearing everything that happened, Eamon asked that the third Warden join them for the discussions. Naliea was a little confused (and although she'd never admit it, nervous) as to why he would want her there. Zevran stayed close but out of sight, just in case Eamon's intentions were to arrest/punish Naliea for Connor's death. Luckily his services weren't required - Eamon surprised them by informing her that although he mourns his son, he realizes she did what she had to to protect the rest of Redcliffe. Naliea felt that by accepting the reward she'd be in a way accepting payment for killing Connor, and yeah, she wasn't about to do that. I did reload after and accept the gift since one of the mods, Improved Atmosphere probably, also adds an armor to the reward that I intend to give Alistair later.Planning got underway and basically: Alistair objected to being made king, Naliea's suggestion of just killing Loghain got vetoed, Eamon will get the nobles together and call a Landsmeet to decide Fereldan's ruler - but take many months to do it since the Wardens still need to recruit the Dalish and the Dwarves, and get through Fereldan's winter) and Jowan got sent back to the Circle. And on the romance front: (playing it safe and labeling as NSFW due to Alistair butt Somewhere in the mountains, Lora got an eyeful (laughed at the appreciative little head tilt there at the end. Naliea got a massage and only a massage (for now), but still gains an occasional tent-mate In my headcanon, they start occasionally sharing a tent well before they actually have sex. Zevran tells a dirty poem I love this conversation because it highlights two things I love about Zevran and Naliea's romance: (1) In the beginning I think he tells stories that make him seem like less of a threat. But as they get to know each other, he starts to tell stories that he hopes will make her laugh, or at least smile. He strikes me as the type of man that doesn't say "I love you" often, but does make it clear everyday with his actions. (2) Naliea wears her anger like armor and tends to focus on the bad things that happened. She and Zevran both learn things from each other and help each other grow. One of the things she learns from him is remembering how to find joy in the little things in life. And just a cute picture of Lora comforting Alistair after discussing Duncan (don't mind the armor clipping....) Randomness: I feel this is one of the obligatory shots for an Origins playthrough I love how this image shows off her hair color. It's supposed to be a very dark red-brown, but I think I accidently made it too dark since it looks more black in most scenes. But this one is closer to how I intended it. And since I posted a larger image of Naliea, here's one of Lora to balance it out Current approval ratings: includes conversations and some gifts, but only gifts that were natural to gift not to artificially raise approval Adding for my own reference, curious to see how the Wardens' relationships with their companions develop. I'm trying to do these playthroughs true to character, and not playing nice simply to raise approval...
Naliea Tabris Alistair: -8 (+5) I knew they wouldn't be bosom buddies yet, but I thought they'd at least be out of the negative by now... Morrigan: +20 (-1) Leliana: +36 (+18) not quite sure how she doubled approval, but here we are. Also pretty sure that this is only Leliana's approval of Naliea and not mutal approval right now. After having just had the "elven servants in Orlais" conversation (by the way, the angry respondses in that are not angry enough for me or how I think Naliea would reply), I doubt Naliea is currently thinking happy thoughts about Leliana. Sten: +87 (+15) Curious who's going to max out first this time, Sten or Zev Zevran: +75 {Adore} (+38) He must have really liked those boots Wynne: +9 (+1) Shale: +15
Lora Cousland: Alistair: +86 {Adore} (+24) Morrigan: +2 (+10) At least they're finally out of the negative Leliana: +36 (+12) Lora and Naliea may be tied points wise, but I think Leliana may try to ninjamance Lora (don't think I picked any romance options, but not sure...). Sten: +7? (+2?) I think I messed up somewhere when I had to reload in Haven - I think they should be a little higher after Lora kicked Sten's butt. But then again I think a camp conversation may have negated those points Zevran: +13 (+17) Look at you finally starting to win her over Wynne: +21 (+5) Shale: +6
Naliea & Lora ≈ +10 (+5) Or something like that, I need to figure out a way to better gauge where these two are in regards to each other. Next up, the Dalish. At least if it takes me so long between updates again this time, they're in a nice comfy castle with real beds and good food, instead of camping on the mountain side.
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