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Post by Rascoth on Feb 11, 2021 23:45:32 GMT
know if it works for Witch Hunt though? I have no idea, sorry
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 11, 2021 23:47:13 GMT
know if it works for Witch Hunt though? I have no idea, sorry meh...I'd rather not screw up my game regardless 'sides...head canon works just fine, thanks for the link though
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Post by Sokemis on Feb 12, 2021 4:02:23 GMT
LadyofNemesis, Sonya - quoting gets messy on my phone, so just going to tag you both 1) I don't know if I'll ever romance Sera with a Dalish Inquisitor, but my canon (Dalish mage) Quizzy did become good friends with her. She came to think of Sera like a younger sister, may not see eye to eye on some subjects but very protective of each other. Quizzy didn't become a Jenny, but they had an ally in her. I headcanon that my Inquisitor's daughter becomes a Jenny. 2) I imagine that at some point during the game Cullen moves into the tower with my Inquisitor. But it's a good thing that he still has his loft though. I'm sure there's times (like that halla mission) where I'm sure there's times he's sleeping on the proverbial couch. (On the flip side though, I think his "f*ck the nobles" response to that other mission helped her realize that the ex-templar wasn't that bad, lol) 3) He may still have a trunk or two full of baggage, but Cullen definitely grew between the games. I think it's because it's only during Inquisition that he finally had the chance to start to heal from the trauma of Origins. I did love his romance with my Dalish mage I actually created her with the intention of romancing Solas, but that went nowhere fast. Our dear Commander had her won over almost before they even got to Skyhold. (Dorian offered a little bit of competition, at least until his personal mission. But that worked out for the best because his friendship is still one of my favorite relationships in the game.)
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 11:31:58 GMT
LadyofNemesis , Sonya - quoting gets messy on my phone, so just going to tag you both 1) I don't know if I'll ever romance Sera with a Dalish Inquisitor, but my canon (Dalish mage) Quizzy did become good friends with her. She came to think of Sera like a younger sister, may not see eye to eye on some subjects but very protective of each other. Quizzy didn't become a Jenny, but they had an ally in her. I headcanon that my Inquisitor's daughter becomes a Jenny. 2) I imagine that at some point during the game Cullen moves into the tower with my Inquisitor. But it's a good thing that he still has his loft though. I'm sure there's times (like that halla mission) where I'm sure there's times he's sleeping on the proverbial couch. (On the flip side though, I think his "f*ck the nobles" response to that other mission helped her realize that the ex-templar wasn't that bad, lol) 3) He may still have a trunk or two full of baggage, but Cullen definitely grew between the games. I think it's because it's only during Inquisition that he finally had the chance to start to heal from the trauma of Origins. I did love his romance with my Dalish mage I actually created her with the intention of romancing Solas, but that went nowhere fast. Our dear Commander had her won over almost before they even got to Skyhold. (Dorian offered a little bit of competition, at least until his personal mission. But that worked out for the best because his friendship is still one of my favorite relationships in the game.) 1) I've seen some vids on YouTube with that pairing, but for me it just doesn't feel right...imo. Sera fits better with either Cadash or Adaar...mostly due to her personal preference for Dagna and the Viddasala. I guess Trevelyan would work as well, but no matter how gorgeous you make her, Sera's first reaction is still 'you're kinda plain really'
But yeah, after playing Trespasser with my Lavellan, Sera has really started to grow on me as well. I kinda clicked the 'become a Jenny' option because I was curious, but later during the epilogue slides I felt that didn't really suit her, so I'll be leaving that out when I replay her.
2) I like to imagine that too, I mean...Quizzy's tower has enough space, and even a balcony so he can get some fresh air if he has nightmares
3) Cullen had me sold the moment he smiled during the initial meeting after the prologue, I like to belief it was love at first sight I had done the Fade kiss with Solas during my currently abandoned DAI playthrough, and while I found it very sweet I just didn't feel the romance in it's entirety
I felt the same about Dorian, and like to belief my Quizzy had a crush on him as well as Cullen, when Dorian tells her he falls for men she felt a bit crushed but understood, he quickly became one of her dearest friends. I also like to belief he gave her some chess pointers, because there's no way my Lavellan would've beat Cullen in any of the three scenarios (That or Cullen got distracted and just let her win)
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Post by Sonya on Feb 12, 2021 12:11:47 GMT
as for mods...*cracks knuckles*
several that expand the 'romance' with Tamlen and Sabrae clan farewell (that one made me cry...even sadder if you play a Warden who gets conscripted against their will...which I tend to do on a Dalish Elf) Have all Tamlen mods. Like them a lot + "killing Tamlen" during the ambush instead of just kill him as a simple enemy with a bunch of my team? That mod adds some respect at least for Tamlen (have never liked simple killing with a team). Very sad, sutscenes, music + LI reaction and attempt to comfort you and leaving you alone after that moment with their face expression (I have Zevran almost all the time, but there is Alistair as well) - perfect work and lore-friendly. Can't play already without that mod as DEO. Other Tamlen mods add romantic and sad feelings. Great work as well. Thanks to modders. She's definitely a contestant for a future playthrough, too bad we don't have an Avvar origin, 'cause she'd make a good one Two-handed warrior does sound very epic though...I hardly ever play those, last time I did I played a dwarf Yeah, at least that origin would have been very suitable, but not HNO...it just seems not right, strange if not weird. In case of changing human to elf - CEO is very suitable as well, GW appearance + certain character traits + 2h weapon - does sound epic. 1) I don't know if I'll ever romance Sera with a Dalish Inquisitor, but my canon (Dalish mage) Quizzy did become good friends with her. She came to think of Sera like a younger sister, may not see eye to eye on some subjects but very protective of each other. Quizzy didn't become a Jenny, but they had an ally in her. I headcanon that my Inquisitor's daughter becomes a Jenny. That suits as well. IMO in DAI you can become real friends with Dorian, Cassandra and Sera. With their dialogues, when they open some facts about their past and attitude to different things - after all that I feel that only these three characters are my real friends even if we do not agree with each other like - Cass "I know you are not Maker-fan, but..., you are my friend, I am proud of that" (not word for word) - Sera with her manner of speech and fear of magic which she does not hide and in PBs with Dorian/Cass I hear those funny but at the same time sort of helping dialogues. Dorin several times tries to help her to understand magic, after they insult each other in sarcastic manner and after "drinks?" (had that PB just yesterday during DLC JofH). Cass asks Sera about it and suggests help. Roof talk with cookies and after asking her about her past? One of the best things; and her phrase "still strange" (she did not get used to open herself to others) tells much about her and attitude to PC. - Dorian with his one of the best but at the same time sad and very realistic in DAU quest with his father and Dorian's desire to help his country and save it (slides in the end are great about it, hope to see him in the next game). And after Dorian "I have few friends if any, and think of you as a friend" and such thing as to have a real friend for him happens not every day. 2) I imagine that at some point during the game Cullen moves into the tower with my Inquisitor. But it's a good thing that he still has his loft though. I'm sure there's times (like that halla mission) where I'm sure there's times he's sleeping on the proverbial couch. (On the flip side though, I think his "f*ck the nobles" response to that other mission helped her realize that the ex-templar wasn't that bad, lol) Guess during that "halla" mission he had had some nightmare and poor sleep as refused from lyrium. New life, fresh start - still getting used to it. If not, just focused on the main goal, no time for some halla - pure serious templar with a lyrium leash affecting his spirit and body with poor ending for him involving Harding.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 14:27:11 GMT
I've decided to restart and rename my Mahariel Warden...I somehow felt the name I'd picked didn't suit her after all so I've decided to rename her to Tylaera, a name I used for my first Inquisitor who later evolved to Gwyneth as such I'm also slightly changing her appearance to match her name better
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 14:45:12 GMT
omg, I hadn't even noticed, I'm so sorry
I'll go back to read your post right away
Edit: read your post and...you might actually be right, the Andruil one does look kinda nice on her, especially with the new color scheme I've given her after adjusting her appearance
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Post by Iddy on Feb 12, 2021 14:49:01 GMT
omg, I hadn't even noticed, I'm so sorry
I'll go back to read your post right away
Ahh, I see. My mistake
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 14:59:53 GMT
omg, I hadn't even noticed, I'm so sorry
I'll go back to read your post right away
Ahh, I see. My mistake it's quite alright...I took a screenshot of her new appearance with one of your suggestions, I think it looks pretty on her what do you think? Though I'm currently a bit on the fence on her eye color My original Tylaera (that I made in Inquisition) had purple eyes to match her vallaslin not sure if that'd look better then the icy blue she currently has
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Post by Iddy on Feb 12, 2021 15:26:23 GMT
Ahh, I see. My mistake it's quite alright...I took a screenshot of her new appearance with one of your suggestions, I think it looks pretty on her what do you think? Though I'm currently a bit on the fence on her eye color My original Tylaera (that I made in Inquisition) had purple eyes to match her vallaslin not sure if that'd look better then the icy blue she currently has Purple is a reddish color, so it would go great with her red hair. (Lore friendly too, since Felassan and Mahariel's dad had them). Icy blue... I can see what you're going for with the contrast, but... I don't know. It doesn't really draw me in. Green or a darker blue might be better.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 16:07:13 GMT
Purple is a reddish color, so it would go great with her red hair. (Lore friendly too, since Felassan and Mahariel's dad had them). Icy blue... I can see what you're going for with the contrast, but... I don't know. It doesn't really draw me in. Green or a darker blue might be better. hm...thanks, I've made the vallaslin the color that I showed in the screenshot, it's a purple-blue color...though the toolset puts it as dark blue as for her eyes, I made them purple in the end...I do think it looks nice on her personally kinda hate how the lighting in most areas makes her look so pale though (she's meant to have the same skin color as Alistair)
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Post by Rascoth on Feb 12, 2021 16:12:22 GMT
kinda hate how the lighting in most areas makes her look so pale though (she's meant to have the same skin color as Alistair) Lighting in DAO can be atrocious
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Post by Sokemis on Feb 12, 2021 18:43:09 GMT
kinda hate how the lighting in most areas makes her look so pale though (she's meant to have the same skin color as Alistair) Lighting in DAO can be atrocious At least with the Dalish warden you can headcanon that she's paler than normal due to being sick. (Not sure how well that excuse works post-Joining though...)
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 20:33:07 GMT
Lighting in DAO can be atrocious At least with the Dalish warden you can headcanon that she's paler than normal due to being sick. (Not sure how well that excuse works post-Joining though...) funny thing is, she has the same skin tone as my Tabris
but yeah, the lighting in DAO is horrible...just compare Duncan and Cailan standing side by side and my Mahariel to the side Cailan has skin tone 1 (aka. the palest one), my Mahariel has skin tone 4 which is medium tanned (Alistair has this one as well), and Duncan has skin tone 6 which is the darkest (Zevran also has this skin tone)
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Post by Curious Crow on Feb 12, 2021 20:48:22 GMT
At least with the Dalish warden you can headcanon that she's paler than normal due to being sick. (Not sure how well that excuse works post-Joining though...) Constant smell of wet dog. Every single day. Even thinking about it makes me loopy, but the warden is living it. Kinda amazing they have color at all.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 12, 2021 23:26:17 GMT
nearly back where I left of last time, just finished up the Joining ritual here's Tylaera's final look
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Post by Buckeldemon on Feb 13, 2021 2:17:58 GMT
1) I never tried that, though I wonder if it would top the type of butthole Hawke I once attempted. Not sure if any of my characters would qualify as "KISA", unless it is actually "sour armour"... as some describe Alistair a times. Certain aspects of purple Hawke might qualify, apart from all the Blood Magic. 2) Eh, DAI is pure Dalish lonelyness. Half of the cast hates you, the other half is like "you are not like the other dirty heathen savages". 3) Seems you settled on some sort of purple? I find it kinda hard to make blue with fit faces. I find it hard to tell from the screenshot, but perhaps I'm just blind. And you took what I could guess is probably the least popular Valla. (you take that one as Sylaise's, I guess). Bow is Ironbark, right? For the green? I tend to use that material for elven armour and melee weapons at times... What kind of Dalish OS mod did you use?
1) I had an idea to make one, but he never made it past the character creation screen...he already looked like a douche 2) ugh, tell me about it Abelas: you're not my people Dalish!Quizzy: well, f*ck you too in fact the only people ever civil to a Dalish elf and proud of them...are Flemeth and Ameridan (oh and Keeper Hawen I suppose, but he doesn't really count since he's a minor npc) also don't forget the whole 'it's fine that you belief in your own gods, but we're still going to 'subtly' forget you do and keep calling you Herald of Andraste' 3) The color I picked for her vallaslin is a sort of purple/blue color...the toolset puts it as dark blue though not sure about the material of the bow though...I believe it's a tier 1 or tier 2 bow, but I do have a mod that changes certain colors so that might be it.
as for mods...*cracks knuckles*
several that expand the 'romance' with Tamlen and Sabrae clan farewell (that one made me cry...even sadder if you play a Warden who gets conscripted against their will...which I tend to do on a Dalish Elf) Edit: able to update with mod links 1) Yeah, that's a bit of a slippery slope I guess. "I want to make a "bad" character. How to make sure not to invoke tropes I might not want?" 2) Eh, I haven't even thought of Abelas. Most see him as the dick he is. 3) Thanks. I suppose they play nicely with each other. Also, I ran a short test regarding the wolfies with a newly-made character in Witch Hunt and they seem to work. (The WH dog is always a "new" party member gameplay-wise; seems as if the game does import only the PC. I guess this also why Oghren is reset in many ways in DAA.)
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Regarding Sera... well, I can see what they did/tried to do with Trespasser, and yes, there are other Dalish fans far more vocal than me who also like Sera, though I agree with one assessment which I read: that she was kinda wasted as a character, as her internalised racism isn't really dealt with because ladyparts jokes are so much more funny (not my type humor). Turning nobles into wine is a thing I've got less isssues with, especially as that jerk tries everything he can to spin blame on her and since he's so damn condescending towards the Inquisitor as well, lol. Thing is, her getting better is kinda hindsight and I don't know how justify a Lavellan going through the main game with her. Or the post-ToM scene. Or the fact that a fair bit of the dialogue options are just "u crazy!", instead of giving us, say, ways to be considerate of her... without fully bending over of course. Cassandra's dialogues have this. Why not Sera?
*places a bucket of rotten eggs* Now, about Cullen... For the record, I kinda hate the concept of elf-bloodedness. It's lazy/dumb, was probably initially just added because of Alistair and carries some icky implications of... well, let's just say fans of mixed descent hate it for some very good reason. It also opens the door for "Dalish are evil because they are isolationist" rants even though elves will just cease to exist if they intermingle freely. Though I think anyone doing a CulLavellan should kinda need to think about it a bit if they want to go the "married-with-children" way. I guess it stays and falls quite a lot with a player's (possibly over-) interpretation of some scenes.
I would like the chance to call him out on some things he says (like getting the last word on Meredith). Some of his blushyness might be endearing, but at other times he tip-toes around some pretty important questions, like what to do in case mage Inquisitor gets possessed (I've actually read a pretty good short fanfiction where this is adressed nicely). "You are not like the other mages" isn't something I'd take as a compliment. Writing declares "he's a good guy" without actually showing much.
Oh, and I found it kinda stupid for him to be made force commander... yes, I guess he knows how to run a force (I kinda like to headcanon that Meredith was more busy talking to Not!Frostmourne and left all the paperwork to him. :lol ), but he has his own emotional baggage as well as that... well, I don't know what to think if I'd join the Inquisition as an ex-circle mage from Kirkwall and the first thing I see is Meredith's second-in-command. What's extremely weird though is that there apparently fans out there who don't really like him but still have their characters romance him cause he's attractive. At least I don't do that. *enter a bit of a self-righteous air here*.
*drifts out as all the rocks come flying. rocks do double damage* here's Tylaera's final look That's also a pretty neat version. Oh, and I've got to figure out if DAO allows to change the ingame display name of a character during a PT.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 13, 2021 12:12:30 GMT
1) Yeah, that's a bit of a slippery slope I guess. "I want to make a "bad" character. How to make sure not to invoke tropes I might not want?" 2) Eh, I haven't even thought of Abelas. Most see him as the dick he is. 3) Thanks. I suppose they play nicely with each other. 4) Also, I ran a short test regarding the wolfies with a newly-made character in Witch Hunt and they seem to work. (The WH dog is always a "new" party member gameplay-wise; seems as if the game does import only the PC. I guess this also why Oghren is reset in many ways in DAA.)
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5) Regarding Sera... well, I can see what they did/tried to do with Trespasser, and yes, there are other Dalish fans far more vocal than me who also like Sera, though I agree with one assessment which I read: that she was kinda wasted as a character, as her internalised racism isn't really dealt with because ladyparts jokes are so much more funny (not my type humor). Turning nobles into wine is a thing I've got less isssues with, especially as that jerk tries everything he can to spin blame on her and since he's so damn condescending towards the Inquisitor as well, lol. Thing is, her getting better is kinda hindsight and I don't know how justify a Lavellan going through the main game with her. Or the post-ToM scene. Or the fact that a fair bit of the dialogue options are just "u crazy!", instead of giving us, say, ways to be considerate of her... without fully bending over of course. Cassandra's dialogues have this. Why not Sera?
*places a bucket of rotten eggs* 6) Now, about Cullen... For the record, I kinda hate the concept of elf-bloodedness. It's lazy/dumb, was probably initially just added because of Alistair and carries some icky implications of... well, let's just say fans of mixed descent hate it for some very good reason. It also opens the door for "Dalish are evil because they are isolationist" rants even though elves will just cease to exist if they intermingle freely. Though I think anyone doing a CulLavellan should kinda need to think about it a bit if they want to go the "married-with-children" way. I guess it stays and falls quite a lot with a player's (possibly over-) interpretation of some scenes.
I would like the chance to call him out on some things he says (like getting the last word on Meredith). Some of his blushyness might be endearing, but at other times he tip-toes around some pretty important questions, like what to do in case mage Inquisitor gets possessed (I've actually read a pretty good short fanfiction where this is adressed nicely). "You are not like the other mages" isn't something I'd take as a compliment. Writing declares "he's a good guy" without actually showing much.
Oh, and I found it kinda stupid for him to be made force commander... yes, I guess he knows how to run a force (I kinda like to headcanon that Meredith was more busy talking to Not!Frostmourne and left all the paperwork to him. :lol ), but he has his own emotional baggage as well as that... well, I don't know what to think if I'd join the Inquisition as an ex-circle mage from Kirkwall and the first thing I see is Meredith's second-in-command. What's extremely weird though is that there apparently fans out there who don't really like him but still have their characters romance him cause he's attractive. At least I don't do that. *enter a bit of a self-righteous air here*.
*drifts out as all the rocks come flying. rocks do double damage* here's Tylaera's final look 7) That's also a pretty neat version. Oh, and I've got to figure out if DAO allows to change the ingame display name of a character during a PT. 1) a friends of mine once made a douche-bag Amell character...he and I rp-ed with that character a while as well. Mine was an Amell at the time as well, so we had this head canon they were cousins
since we weren't thrilled with the idea of making them siblings, seeing as his character was very flirty and flirted with mine the moment he met her...she quickly shut him down with the 'we're cousins dude' it was a hilarious rp, with mine being the more responsible one and the actual Warden Commander, and him just being this comical pyromancer/blood mage
2) Abelas is in the same realm of douche-bag as Solas 'stuck in the past and unable to let go'
3) you're welcome, the mod also works for a male Warden, in case one wants to play a gay or bi character
4) hoh, nice to know...
5) yeah, that's part of Sera's character that could've gone better
6) we already discussed my opinion and yours extensively concerning Cullen, agree to disagree on most points shall we?
7) and thanks, I'm not sure if one can change a name during an in-progress playthrough...maybe with a save editor?
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Post by Sonya on Feb 13, 2021 12:42:14 GMT
Regarding Sera... well, I can see what they did/tried to do with Trespasser, and yes, there are other Dalish fans far more vocal than me who also like Sera, though I agree with one assessment which I read: that she was kinda wasted as a character, as her internalised racism isn't really dealt with because ladyparts jokes are so much more funny (not my type humor). Turning nobles into wine is a thing I've got less isssues with, especially as that jerk tries everything he can to spin blame on her and since he's so damn condescending towards the Inquisitor as well, lol. Thing is, her getting better is kinda hindsight and I don't know how justify a Lavellan going through the main game with her. Or the post-ToM scene. Or the fact that a fair bit of the dialogue options are just "u crazy!", instead of giving us, say, ways to be considerate of her... without fully bending over of course. Cassandra's dialogues have this. Why not Sera? Interesting point of view showing Sera's flaws indeed. One question here, Buckeldemon : are there any good traits in Sera for you? Maybe behavior, dialogues? Is there anything at all in her for you when you can actually think and say (knowing about her flaws as well) "Yes, Sera is good in this or that/ can learn things unlike others/to think of something Sera has a point and she is really right about ...." - such things. Or Sera is in general just a character full of flaws, poorly developed in DLC? Just to be clear: interesting your opinion about topic "Does Sera have anything good at all?" though elves will just cease to exist if they intermingle freely. Though I think anyone doing a CulLavellan should kinda need to think about it a bit if they want to go the "married-with-children" way. It is a question of "duty" and "your own wishes". Duty as you are an elf and should stick to elves. Or as elven clans can think about you as a traitror to your own people because you are selfish and want to be with a human. Your duty comes first? Own life and wishes mean nothing in this case? To be honest it is rather difficult situation for any person in similar situation (like Sebastian from DA2: his people comes first, not his wish to be a Maker-fan. I always tell him "it is your duty as a ruler, and you must think about your people"). As an elf? Or a dwarf? Think it depends on situation and circumstances. But still the question is from the category "open". "You are not like the other mages" isn't something I'd take as a compliment. It is a compliment? I have always taken it from Cullen as a fact, cold fact that I am responsable mage (like Beth from DA2, or my blood mage GW, like Hawke's father). But not a comliment, even can say it is very far from compliment. At least I perceive it like a cold fact from Cullen. Interesting to hear about that phrase as something different how other people see it. Oh, and I found it kinda stupid for him to be made force commander... Does anyone know why Cassandra chose Cullen for such important and responsable job? She knew about Cullen's baggage, his job in Kirkwall with Meredith and after her death, about him trying to stop to be an addict, the fact that is very important btw. I mean he was a lyrium addict; trying to break that leash is not something to ignore as it is fucking difficult and people can't think clear, no clear head, emotions just jump like madmen and many other things. But what Cassandra says about it? "I see Cullen can do it, even back there in Kirkwall saw it". Any real reasons from Cassandra to invite Cullen? there apparently fans out there who don't really like him but still have their characters romance him cause he's attractive. He is attactive not by his appearance (do not know what it means), but by his growth during three games. He was as ass, suffered, trusted Meredith, in the end came around what it right (short version). Constant smell of wet dog. Every single day. Even thinking about it makes me loopy, but the warden is living it. Kinda amazing they have color at all As understand it is a joke? But to think about it Fereldans got used to that smell. Like people in the town near the sea, a fish town, got used to fish smell all over the place. At least with the Dalish warden you can headcanon that she's paler than normal due to being sick. (Not sure how well that excuse works post-Joining though...) Excuse for post-joining pale skin - people are different and that drink has different influence: some are affected, others keep their dark skin. Side effects as from some drug. Can't that be lore-friendly explanation for such pale skin?
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 13, 2021 13:00:36 GMT
though elves will just cease to exist if they intermingle freely. Though I think anyone doing a CulLavellan should kinda need to think about it a bit if they want to go the "married-with-children" way. It is a question of "duty" and "your own wishes". Duty as you are an elf and should stick to elves. Or as elven clans can think about you as a traitror to your own people because you are selfish and want to be with a human. Your duty comes first? Own life and wishes mean nothing in this case? To be honest it is rather difficult situation for any perosn in similar situation (like Sebastian from DA2: his people comes first, not his wish to be a Maker-fan. I always tell him "it is your duty as a ruler, and you must think about your people"). As an elf? Or a dwarf? Think it depends on situation and circumstances. But still the question is from the category "open". "You are not like the other mages" isn't something I'd take as a compliment. It is a compliment? I have always took it from Cullen as a fact, cold fact that I am responsable mage (like Beth from DA2, or my blood mage GW, like Hawke's father). But not a comliment, even can say it is very far from compliment. At least I perceive it like a cold fact from Cullen. Interesting to hear about that phrase as something different how other people see it. Oh, and I found it kinda stupid for him to be made force commander... Does anyone know why Cassandra chose Cullen for such important and responsable job? She knew about Cullen's baggage, his job in Kirkwall with Meredith and after her death, about him trying to stop to be an addict, the fact that is very important btw. I mean he was a lyrium addict; trying to break that leash is not something to ignore as it is fucking difficult and people can't think clear, no clear head, emotions just jump like madmen and many other things. But what Cassandra says about it? "I see Cullen can do it, even back there in Kirkwall saw it". Any real reasons from Cassandra to invite Cullen? there apparently fans out there who don't really like him but still have their characters romance him cause he's attractive. He is attactive not by his appearance (do not know what it means), but by his growth during three games. He was as ass, suffered, trusted Meredith, in the end came around what it right (short version). yes, thank you for this!
also, it's interesting to note...Fenris does the same thing, the only mage he trusts throughout the entire game is Hawke/Bethany he even invokes it during a friendship conversation in Act 2, and again during Act 3's romance conclusion during Act 2 he says something along the lines of "*toasting Hawke* to you Hawke, a finer mage I've never met" and during Act 3 he says "for every mage such as you, there are a dozen more out there too weak to responsibly handle their powers" and he invokes it during party banter with Anders almost word for word Anders: Not all mages are weak. (If Hawke is a mage) Fenris: True. Hawke, for instance, is not weak. (Otherwise) Fenris: Bethany, for instance, was not weak. Anders: You specifically don't mention me. Fenris: That's also true. Anders: I'll prove to you that I'm not weak Fenris: Prove it to yourself. You're convincing no one else. Yet people harp on Cullen for saying he views a mage!Inquisitor as different from other mages, and don't do that with Fenris...at least not that I've seen
also...I'm romancing Cullen specifically for the journey his character went through, that he's pretty is just a bonus
and I also found this: I feel it's appropriate for characters such as Cullen
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Post by Curious Crow on Feb 13, 2021 15:37:20 GMT
As understand it is a joke? But to think about it Fereldans got used to that smell. Like people in the town near the sea, a fish town, got used to fish smell all over the place. Yep it's a joke. Wet dogs do smell vile though. Add in swamp smell as well and just ugh. Gross. The warden can also mention that it smells like rotting garbage along with the wet dog smell. Then there are the stinky darkspawn and the boat loads of rotting corpses all around. Just saying, the theory of paleness being from feeling sick of the stench isn't that far off Fish isn't too bad if it's fresh, but it would reek to the nine hells if it was all rotten. Add shrimp to the mix and it's just plain nasty. Like a house full of dogs can smell just fine, until someone dunks them all in water and shuts the windows. But it's all meant in good fun.
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Post by Sonya on Feb 13, 2021 17:05:27 GMT
Yep it's a joke. Wet dogs do smell vile though. Add in swamp smell as well and just ugh. Gross. The warden can also mention that it smells like rotting garbage along with the wet dog smell. Then there are the stinky darkspawn and the boat loads of rotting corpses all around. Just saying, the theory of paleness being from feeling sick of the stench isn't that far off Fish isn't too bad if it's fresh, but it would reek to the nine hells if it was all rotten. Add shrimp to the mix and it's just plain nasty. Like a house full of dogs can smell just fine, until someone dunks them all in water and shuts the windows. But it's all meant in good fun. Ah, thanks, understood. But I see your point even if it is a joke and in good fun. Like it. I do not mind wet dogs smell at all (no matter the duration). But at the same time smell of fresh fish makes me almost vomit (can't stand at all and change skin tone to green from pale). Also fun in a good way.
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Post by Sonya on Feb 13, 2021 17:25:56 GMT
Well, such opinion is just what is needed. Great understanding of characters' development. Thank you for sharing. Yet people harp on Cullen for saying he views a mage!Inquisitor as different from other mages, and don't do that with Fenris...at least not that I've seen I agree. Was surprised to hear those phrases from a person who does not trust mages as had very sad experience. But in the end fell in love with a mage (became friends) and called Beth a responsable mage unlike Anders e.g. in that PB. No such pressure in Fenris situation though his attitude to mages is even worse as I see it. But Fenris changes as well, finally trusts mages but understands they can be a danger at the same time. Cullen says and thinks in a similar way actually.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Feb 13, 2021 18:31:24 GMT
Well, such opinion is just what is needed. Great understanding of characters' development. Thank you for sharing. -- Yet people harp on Cullen for saying he views a mage!Inquisitor as different from other mages, and don't do that with Fenris...at least not that I've seen I agree. Was surprised to hear those phrases from a person who does not trust mages as had very sad experience. But in the end fell in love with a mage (became friends) and called Beth a responsable mage unlike Anders e.g. in that PB. No such pressure in Fenris situation though his attitude to mages is even worse as I see it. But Fenris changes as well, finally trusts mages but understands they can be a danger at the same time. Cullen says and thinks in a similar way actually. you're welcome --
I think one of my favorite lines from Fenris, comes when you decide to side with the mages during Last Straw, he says this regardless of romance or regular friendship "it's a mistake, but I won't abandon you" which just shows how much he's come to care about Hawke, as a lover or as a friend
Cullen may have his ups and downs regarding various subjects, but almost 99% of the LI's we've had so far have had terrible things happen to them in the past let's see...(and this is just what I've gathered from talking to said companions and some of their background stories)
Alistair: neglected and mistreated as a child, always had decisions made for him without any regard for his own feelings on the matter
Zevran: trained as a weapon as a young age, abused regularly by those that trained him, betrayed by those same people on various occasions Leliana: used by a person she regarded as a friend (and lover), betrayed and brutally tortured until she nearly died Morrigan: mistreated by her own mother, always expected betrayal by said mother and was convinced her mother would use her as her little sock puppet (she may even have been right about that) -- Isabela: sold by her own mother to a man because she wouldn't convert to the Qun like her mother had, never knew her father Merrill: isolated in her clan due to being the Keeper's First (partially her own doing because she does say she was somewhat reclusive), possibly lost two of her friends to the Blight (Tamlen and a Dalish Warden), starts using blood magic to find out what happened to said friends and becomes alienated by her clan because of it Anders: taken to the Circle at a young age, saw (and likely also experienced) many abuses in said Circle...the only person that took him away from that pain was taken from him and forcibly made Tranquil. Fenris: turned into a living weapon by his master, abused by this same master and made to kill on his orders just because he wanted to help his family Sebastian: neglected by his family due to being the youngest, and shipped of to the Chantry because he was an 'inconvenience' --
Cassandra: her parents were killed for being on the wrong side of a war, her uncle hardly ever saw a use for her except maybe to marry her of. The only member of her family who cared about her (her brother Antony) was brutally murdered before her eyes. Also lost a past lover due to politics and later the Conclave explosion (Galyan) Iron Bull: member of the Qun (enough said), never made any choices for himself until he went undercover Dorian: his trust was betrayed by his own father for not wanting to confirm to what was 'normal' Blackwall: murdered a family, left his men to take the blame and took on the identity of a man who wanted to give him a better life to atone for this after said man died protecting him from darkspawn Solas: ...created the Veil, likely killed countless people and is going to do a reverse and repeat of this Sera: was basically a street kid until a kind lady took her in to give her a home, rejected this life after finding out this lady lied to her (likely on various subjects (one of them being her race making a local baker hate her). Has massive trust issues because of it Josephine: ...might be the sanest person we have in the Inquisition, her family has it somewhat bad and she killed a man in self defense sometime in the past. Cullen: we already discussed him, but long story short: tortured in the Circle during the Blight, saw friends die before his eyes, likely suffered hunger and lyrium withdrawal during this time. Still wanted to do good so was sent to templar heaven Kirkwall, Meredith used the fear that developed inside him to fuel his hatred, had his trust betrayed by her in the end...plus she tried to kill him alongside Hawke.
forgive my rambling sometimes I get fired up
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