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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 2:51:23 GMT
I am positive Cull perked up and gave that sheepish grin to the elf vs backing away from a Qunari. Makes me feel even more guilty for playing an elf. Why does that make you feel guilty? I have a weird feeling I sold out something dear to me to get certain conveniences and luxuries which comes with playing a privileged race (in terms of gameplay rewards). It also makes me a hypocrite because I really dislike the elves. But I be damned if I play a human in only 2 out of all 7 games where you don't have to...
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Post by Lazarillo on May 31, 2017 3:03:52 GMT
I friggen love Tabris, she was my first Origins. I hate Lel though. I like the Warden being an elf, to make best possible world state for elves. (in my head) My Tabris went Alistair romance, and then they stayed Wardens together. My FEmale Cousland also depantsed all the people. But it doesn't make sense for the Prince Consort/King of Fereldan to go off on a never ending mission, so I don't like the continuity of it. a big MEH on the Aeducan storyline, I don't like it at all. In my head, my imagined-haven't-played female Aeducan is onto Bhelen so well, she crosses him before he can finish setting her up. Ultimate Spider, she kills him herself and takes his spot in the Storyline. My Tabris couldn't get past Alistair being noble. She'd probably get along splendidly with Sera in that regard. Also, the general resistance to marriage that I kept putting in for her at the time evolved and just forever sort of cemented her in my mind as her just not being into men. Most of my lady Wardens have ended up with Alistair (even if they don't always get a happy ending), but with Tabris, I just can't. For Cousland, I sort've justify it as being a political kind of thing. He has to complete his mission, and soon, if he and Anora are going to secure a successor (and no DR, so he doesn't know about Kieran), and ensure that their "golden age" outlives them. I feel that Origins is the only game in the Trilogy that has extensive Dwarven content, so imo a Dwarf is the best fit for Origins. I am still kicking myself for playing a Mage, but unlike you, I do not have what it takes to replay Origins, so I just faked a Dwarven Warden in DAK. A pity, that, but yeah... i just couldn't. If I go Aeducan for Origins, I'll probably also do a Dwarf in Inquisition, actually, although I don't know if there's any acknowledgment of both being dwarves in the long term (like, for example, how a Dalish Inquisitor gets a special letter from a Dalish Warden). And replaying is Origins is easy for me, as long as I play a rogue.
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Post by shaqfu on May 31, 2017 3:32:11 GMT
I had forgotten how energy draining some of these large zones in Inquisition can be. Im really hoping if anything for the next one they either shrink the areas down a bit or throw a whole lot more engaging content in them. Doesn't help that it's so quiet, music and banter wise while exploring.
That said I finished all I could for now in the coast and the mire. I'm enjoying the warrior class so far, using mods that make it a bit more worthwhile. Think I'll move on to the Templar quest now then cover more of the hinterlands
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Post by dragontartare on May 31, 2017 3:42:32 GMT
I had forgotten how energy draining some of these large zones in Inquisition can be. Im really hoping if anything for the next one they either shrink the areas down a bit or throw a whole lot more engaging content in them. Doesn't help that it's so quiet, music and banter wise while exploring.That said I finished all I could for now in the coast and the mire. I'm enjoying the warrior class so far, using mods that make it a bit more worthwhile. Think I'll move on to the Templar quest now then cover more of the hinterlands Since you mentioned mods, I'm going to assume you're on PC. It is possible to use the cheat engine to trigger banter whenever you want (except for in the Forbidden Oasis) so that your explorations won't feel so lonely.
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Post by shaqfu on May 31, 2017 3:44:32 GMT
Ya I remember using that before, think I currently have a mod installed that is supposed to up it triggering automatically. Still feels so quiet though.
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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2017 3:59:43 GMT
If I go Aeducan for Origins, I'll probably also do a Dwarf in Inquisition, actually, although I don't know if there's any acknowledgment of both being dwarves in the long term (like, for example, how a Dalish Inquisitor gets a special letter from a Dalish Warden). And replaying is Origins is easy for me, as long as I play a rogue. For what it's worth, you do get special letter as well if both are dwarves.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 13:29:13 GMT
And… I have concluded the Hushed Whispers. No matter how silly the plotline of this quest is, it’s probably my favorite quest in the game. Both the duo’ing with Dorian part of it, and the other companions on-screen heroic sacrifice. That one moment there where Dorian drags PC back in the end screaming: “You’ll move and we’ll all die –“ just so good. Then I did In Your Heart Shall Burn on a level 6 character, because, why not. With two mages, who cares it’s level 8-11 recommended level… Figure 1. Rascal ain't gonna just lie down and die!!! Or...? It’s interesting how the mind reprocesses the cutscenes when you have something specific on your mind I get to admit that Cullen’s participation during this sequence really puts him in a favorable light. In fact, by the time I ended up in Skyhold, Solas, Dorian and Cullen all have about the same amount of flattering screentime and dialogue. But, guess, what? I am not going to torture you with the screenshots of the Dawn Will Come and the Sword of Inquisition. Instead… Figure 2. Meet your volunteer instructor for the (Literally) Crush Course on Medieval Warfare. Heading phoray wise advice, Rascal ceased flirting with Solas and Blackwall right after Cullen and Cassandra dug Rascal out of the snow. But, Dorian, on the other hand, every heart that was available, she took. Because, you know, both Blackwall and Cullen express a strong emotional need to protect Rascal from falling into the snow, and Solas provides her with a Keep, but Dorian… well, he rants about how soul-crushed and brilliant he is. Aww, looks like a convenient short-cut to having your PC’s heart broken by Dorian, vs getting to exact same point through the full 50 to 60 hour endeavor. There is another thing I did like about Inquisition this time: and that’s how well Cullen’s flirts are integrated in his content. The way he pauses before adding …in Kirkwall when he tells you that nobody special caught his eye; and his earnest plea to see that nothing like the aftermath of Haven happens again, when added to his able handling of the situation and take-charge behavior during the attack, and the economical way he shares the responsibility with the PC, I did like it very much. I’ve rushed Rascal to see Hawke as well, to make sure my DAK import did not fail me. From both convos with Hawke and Varric, and Anora’s appearance in the end of Whispers, it is all correct. Unfortunately, I’ve somehow missed setting it in DAK that Anders was executed and that Blaze hated him & that she recruited Sebastian, and the game did not pick those decisions up correctly on its own from the PT. I have changed it now, but it’s too late to see the lines specific to Anders’ execution & Sebastian’s actions in Starkhaven. I will still stick to my plan, however. Figure 3. Blaze, the Mage-Tyrant of Kirkwall, Inquisition version, talking to Rascal, of the Stickpeople Clan Finally, I did not have the heart to shooo Cole away. That quest marker on the grounds of Skyhold… aww… I dunno. Should we keep him? At least as far as I can see, I’ve lost Krem in the avalanche, so I hope I got away Bull-free! Please, pretty please? Now, of course, I need to pay the price of avoiding the side-quests, so it’s back to Hinterlands to find 4 points I need to unlock the Mire & start leveling up to Hawke’s mission.
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 13:32:46 GMT
Natia decided to go to Orzammar next. This was the original plan but they met a merchant halfway along the path. Rumours of a golem piqued her interest so she's going on a side excursion to Honnleath instead. I still find it hysterical that Cullen might have "played" with Shale. Bet it looked like this Wait, what? Cullen is from there?!
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on May 31, 2017 13:40:47 GMT
I still find it hysterical that Cullen might have "played" with Shale. Bet it looked like this Wait, what? Cullen is from there?! Yes, Cullen was born in Honnleath. His family was later forced to flee to South Watch during the Blight.
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 13:42:47 GMT
Wait, what? Cullen is from there?! Yes, Cullen was born in Honnleath. And here I was just last night thinking I wanted to explore Cullen's childhood in my fan fiction and didn't know how! Cullen doesn't mention his entire town was ransacked by Darkspawn. What if one of his family members was behind the magic wall?
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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2017 14:31:36 GMT
Wait, what? Cullen is from there?! As Obsidian Gryphon said, he is Cullen doesn't mention his entire town was ransacked by Darkspawn. What if one of his family members was behind the magic wall? His siblings made it out, his parents didn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 14:36:29 GMT
Wait, what? Cullen is from there?! As Obsidian Gryphon said, he is Cullen doesn't mention his entire town was ransacked by Darkspawn. What if one of his family members was behind the magic wall? His siblings made it out, his parents didn't. In DA-verse, having children drops your life expectancy a great deal it seems. The moment you procreate, the clock starts ticking. You just know you are about to be sacrificed to provide your offspring with a suitable background tragedy.
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 15:00:26 GMT
I'm dragging my feet and dreading it. The inevitable moment when my Brosca slits Zevran's unconsious throat. I've been in Denerim, doing as much as I can at this point in the story, being careful to not travel outside of Denerim. Just Camp and Back.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 15:02:21 GMT
I'm dragging my feet and dreading it. The inevitable moment when my Brosca slits Zevran's unconsious throat. I've been in Denerim, doing as much as I can at this point in the story, being careful to not travel outside of Denerim. Just Camp and Back. heh, take the plunge and don't save beforehand. Felt the same before Wrex dilemma in ME1, but once it's done, it's done.
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 15:06:46 GMT
I'm dragging my feet and dreading it. The inevitable moment when my Brosca slits Zevran's unconsious throat. I've been in Denerim, doing as much as I can at this point in the story, being careful to not travel outside of Denerim. Just Camp and Back. heh, take the plunge and don't save beforehand. Felt the same before Wrex dilemma in ME1, but once it's done, it's done. Stuff like it lingers a while though. Felt so bad about the werewolves, didn't feel right until I killed Zathrien too. I felt like crap being mean to the mages in the cave in act 1 of DA2. Same for selling Fenriel soul. Cried for several minutes after killing Anders on My 3rd PT. Letting the bad decisions make me sad is the whole point in exploring the content. If it were all "meaningless, not me, doesn't count" then I would not bother playing after the first time.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 15:15:49 GMT
heh, take the plunge and don't save beforehand. Felt the same before Wrex dilemma in ME1, but once it's done, it's done. Stuff like it lingers a while though. Felt so bad about the werewolves, didn't feel right until I killed Zathrien too. I felt like crap being mean to the mages in the cave in act 1 of DA2. Same for selling Fenriel soul. Cried for several minutes after killing Anders on My 3rd PT. Letting the bad decisions make me sad is the whole point in exploring the content. If it were all "meaningless, not me, doesn't count" then I would not bother playing after the first time. I usually emote deeply during the scene then I let karma do its thing. Shepard who killed Wrex, also kills Jack his lover; Hawke who killed Anders stays in the Fade to perpetually battle the Nightmare demon. I prefer to cut clean and move on. But you do you!
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 15:50:02 GMT
Naderra Brosca: 6 silver and 47 copper. That's all that Zevran had on his corpse. The Crows never did let him keep his earnings really...and he probably couldn't have afforded those shoes.
Dead men don't need boots. He knew it. He came looking for his death. And my Brosca, unknowing of his depressed expectations, gave it to him.
The game played evil music when she slit his throat.
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Post by themikefest on May 31, 2017 16:38:26 GMT
Instead of heading to the Cliffe that is Red, I went and talked with Levi, who is named after a pair of jeans, Dryden. He told me about a peak with a soldier on it. I went there and fought a bunch of undead. Activate walking bomb spell. Ok. Dealt with some demons. Met Levi great-great-grandmother. Sorry Levi, there is no plastic surgeon alive that can fix that face. I kill the thing. I meet the Avernous guy. He's very old. Someone call the Guiness Book of World Records guys. Tell them I found the oldest living human. I help him get rid of the demons to strengthen the veil. I tell him to go back to his room and find a way to help the Wardens. One of the demons left behind a nice staff. Its good for cold spells. Back to camp.
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 16:48:49 GMT
Naderra Brosca: Nothing else to complete on Denerim, Brosca runs some of the countryside errands. Actually manage to save some refugees. And shake my head at Loghain's stupidity when I run into the Soldiers.
Fereldan is a collection of Banns who decided, based on great deeds, to follow a King. But that support comes with expectations that the King was chosen from their group, and that he'll rule the way they mostly like. Then a regent waltz along and just order them to give their lands over? Ha! And Loghain calls himself a Fereldan. He's certainly no Orlesian but he doesn't understand his own people. He is absurd.
Turn those quests in and now there really isn't anything left to do in Denerim. Brosca considers the map, with Leliana's assistance since she can't read...or knows Fereldan geography...
Lothering is lost to the Darkspawn. Which cuts off Redcliffe from the main road. So, taking the most northern route West, it seems obvious to approach the Mages next, before heading directly south to Redcliffe. After that, they'll consider their options again.
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Post by fylimar on May 31, 2017 18:12:02 GMT
Okay, so I'm planning another semi-fresh run'o'the trilogy for my video-gaming time over the next few months, and I already know what I'm gonna do with Hawke, but I'm trying to decide on a Warden (which is kind of a problem since the Warden comes first). What do folks think? As a note, all 3 will be Rogues because I just really don't enjoy playing anything else in Origins. *Option 1: a female Tabris, my original completer of Origins/ball of pent up anger stabby murderelf, whose save file and screenshots I lost somewhere along the way. She still holds a special place in my heart and it feels weird just leaving her in limbo (plus it'd give me the chance to rectify accidentally getting Shianni murdered in the epilogue!). On the other hand, it's not anything too new outside a couple decision tweaks, and I'm not sure I'd keep her "continuity" by the time I get to Inquisition because she's a Leliana romance (and that's definitely not going to change, they worked so well together) and I don't like carrying over Leliana romance. *Option 2: a male Cousland, someone I've tried a couple times but never gotten far with (mostly 'cause he's usually a Warrior, but I give up on trying that part unless someone can direct me to an amazing mod to make Warriors more fun), a hero if a bit easily distract-able, out to save his homeland and de-pants as many people as he can doing it. I've never completed this run, but I've got his decisions mostly planned (in my head at least), culminating with him starting and breaking off every romance to take a political marriage with Anora. Since I've never finished a Cousland before, I'm curious to see how all the Landsmeet stuff actually plays out differently in execution with an "insider". *Option 3: a male Aeducan. This is the one I want to do the most, really, but also the hardest to put into practice. I've never done a Dwarven Warden past the origin stories, and this is one as well where I really don't know what choices I want to make (outside of one), so it'd be a lot of fun to try getting in character and flying by the seat of my pants. Unfortunately, I can't quite figure out a good starting point for that character. I know that the one decision I want is for him to actually side with Bhelen in a "I respect you, but I'll never forgive you" sort of way, but I have a hard time thinking of what sort of mindset will build to that, especially given Aeducan's apparently-beloved status according to the prologue. Part of me thinks of him as a sort of simple and direct sort who hates the politics and just wants to face his enemies (sort of a Dwarven Alistair, kinda?), but that seems better suited to being a Warrior than a Rogue, and again, I'm just not sure I can do a Warrior for 70+ hours without giving up. Thoughts, suggestions, perspectives of those who've tried? I tried all origins (female versions), but didn't like human and dwarf noble that much. I love the underdogs, so I would go for Tabris. Your background-stories all sound great though. I can't play warriors too. Most of the warrior characters, I made, never got to level 10 . I normally stick to rogues and mages
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2017 18:26:37 GMT
Okay, so I'm planning another semi-fresh run'o'the trilogy for my video-gaming time over the next few months, and I already know what I'm gonna do with Hawke, but I'm trying to decide on a Warden (which is kind of a problem since the Warden comes first). What do folks think? As a note, all 3 will be Rogues because I just really don't enjoy playing anything else in Origins. *Option 1: a female Tabris, my original completer of Origins/ball of pent up anger stabby murderelf, whose save file and screenshots I lost somewhere along the way. She still holds a special place in my heart and it feels weird just leaving her in limbo (plus it'd give me the chance to rectify accidentally getting Shianni murdered in the epilogue!). On the other hand, it's not anything too new outside a couple decision tweaks, and I'm not sure I'd keep her "continuity" by the time I get to Inquisition because she's a Leliana romance (and that's definitely not going to change, they worked so well together) and I don't like carrying over Leliana romance. *Option 2: a male Cousland, someone I've tried a couple times but never gotten far with (mostly 'cause he's usually a Warrior, but I give up on trying that part unless someone can direct me to an amazing mod to make Warriors more fun), a hero if a bit easily distract-able, out to save his homeland and de-pants as many people as he can doing it. I've never completed this run, but I've got his decisions mostly planned (in my head at least), culminating with him starting and breaking off every romance to take a political marriage with Anora. Since I've never finished a Cousland before, I'm curious to see how all the Landsmeet stuff actually plays out differently in execution with an "insider". *Option 3: a male Aeducan. This is the one I want to do the most, really, but also the hardest to put into practice. I've never done a Dwarven Warden past the origin stories, and this is one as well where I really don't know what choices I want to make (outside of one), so it'd be a lot of fun to try getting in character and flying by the seat of my pants. Unfortunately, I can't quite figure out a good starting point for that character. I know that the one decision I want is for him to actually side with Bhelen in a "I respect you, but I'll never forgive you" sort of way, but I have a hard time thinking of what sort of mindset will build to that, especially given Aeducan's apparently-beloved status according to the prologue. Part of me thinks of him as a sort of simple and direct sort who hates the politics and just wants to face his enemies (sort of a Dwarven Alistair, kinda?), but that seems better suited to being a Warrior than a Rogue, and again, I'm just not sure I can do a Warrior for 70+ hours without giving up. Thoughts, suggestions, perspectives of those who've tried? I tried all origins (female versions), but didn't like human and dwarf noble that much. I love the underdogs, so I would go for Tabris. Your background-stories all sound great though. I can't play warriors too. Most of the warrior characters, I made, never got to level 10 . I normally stick to rogues and mages Warriors in origins have the best killing animations though I always go warrior in origins. There is a mod that makes all killings killing-blow it's really fun
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Post by Rascoth on May 31, 2017 18:35:35 GMT
Ugh, while I like killing animations on dragons, I despised not being able to control them on other enemies. The amount of times I was locked in that damn killing animation when I really, really needed to do something else...
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Post by fylimar on May 31, 2017 18:35:49 GMT
I tried all origins (female versions), but didn't like human and dwarf noble that much. I love the underdogs, so I would go for Tabris. Your background-stories all sound great though. I can't play warriors too. Most of the warrior characters, I made, never got to level 10 . I normally stick to rogues and mages Warriors in origins have the best killing animations though I always go warrior in origins. There is a mod that makes all killings killing-blow it's really fun Sorry, but warriors are not my cup of tea... if they had dancing animations during the fight scenes...well...mabye, but otherwise they are just too boring
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Post by Ean'Harel on May 31, 2017 19:12:21 GMT
I tend to give up on warriors by level 3... I should really give one a try next time! :gasp:
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Post by phoray on May 31, 2017 19:18:45 GMT
Re:Warriors
I was rogues all the way for longest while. Now I prefer mage in Origins. I just started a 2H warrior in DAI, I'm holding judgement, but hoping for the best.
DAO: Mage! Rogue good. Warrior meh. DA2: Rogue! Mage ok. Warrior meh. DAI: Rogue good, trying 2H 1st time, HATE MAGE. It's too bad I like RPing as one so much in DAI.
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