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Post by dazk on Aug 30, 2018 0:41:07 GMT
So yesterday I started a new DAI run at least 3 years after my last one and for someone who played the game to death when it released I couldn't believe how much I had forgotten. Anyway playing as a male Qunari Archer for the first time and I am still getting used to it in terms of me being a Qunari. Survived getting interrogated by Cassandra and Leliana, met Varric & Solas and learnt I could close rifts. Climbed some ladders, killed some demons and chose the mountain path ala Lord of The Rings Met the nasty chantry man (Roderick?) and then headed off to try and close the big rift, which after fighting a huge demon and some of its friends we did. Woke up in Haven and got to exploring and collecting Elfroot and Iron etc. Some pic's My new Inquisitor, I just kept the generic name Karaas seems good, though I could never play an archer in Inquisition. For some reason, I always have to play DW rogues if playing a rogue in this game. Still, Qunari seems better as a warrior to me. No offense meant, of course. I like Archer but it really does feel odd playing this hulky Qunari and being an archer, not quite immersion breaking but I am aware of it. My preference is always dual wielding rogue but I just did that in DA2 so thought I'd do something different. Nothing to be offended by
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Post by melbella on Aug 30, 2018 0:54:49 GMT
Both my qunaris were rogues....female archer and male dual daggers Note on armor: most of the medium armor looks bad (imo) on male qunari rogue. I ended up going with the dragon hunter gear, I think. Yay for the Golden Nug!
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Post by jaerick243 on Aug 30, 2018 1:36:51 GMT
Both my qunaris were rogues....female archer and male dual daggers Note on armor: most of the medium armor looks bad (imo) on male qunari rogue. I ended up going with the dragon hunter gear, I think. Yay for the Golden Nug! Eh, I usually play female characters anyways, so how the armors look on male characters is not my big issue. Which reminds me, I find it somewhat awkward how the daggers of a dual dagger female dwarf kind of merge together/overlap/clip into each other.
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Post by azarhal on Aug 30, 2018 2:48:11 GMT
Two dragons died tonight. Raise you tankards!
Meraad and her party cleaned an old Tevinter prison full of darkspawns and made a Venatori prisoner. He was assigned to Leliana as an informant. They also saved Celene's soldiers from Citadelle du Corbeau undead infestation and crazy elven death ray, as well as did a weird puzzle in an old elven ruin turned into a graveyard (? might have always been one, idk).
Also, reached level 20...and I haven't even started Adamant assault or WEWH, lol.
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 3:53:07 GMT
Two dragons died tonight. Raise you tankards! Meraad and her party cleaned an old Tevinter prison full of darkspawns and made a Venatori prisoner. He was assigned to Leliana as an informant. They also saved Celene's soldiers from Citadelle du Corbeau undead infestation and crazy elven death ray, as well as did a weird puzzle in an old elven ruin turned into a graveyard (? might have always been one, idk). Also, reached level 20...and I haven't even started Adamant assault or WEWH, lol. Sounds like you needed some trials.
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Post by dazk on Aug 30, 2018 5:35:31 GMT
Both my qunaris were rogues....female archer and male dual daggers Note on armor: most of the medium armor looks bad (imo) on male qunari rogue. I ended up going with the dragon hunter gear, I think. Yay for the Golden Nug! Thanks will check it out, just crafted some Sturdy Prowler armour after killing some Druffalo and Nugs round haven. It looks meh but the armour ratings high!!!
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Post by House Targaryen on Aug 30, 2018 5:39:16 GMT
Did Solas quest with helping his spirit friend. Even though his spirit friend died in the end, he was grateful for our help. Did Cassandra's quest with the Seekers. Dany made sure the good Lord Seeker was purified in flame. After all that, Dany decided to stop having cold feet and went ahead and gave Bull a dragon's tooth, to make the relationship mean more than a fling. Take all the time you need, Solas. You will pay for your treachery, Lord Seeker. For your treachery, I sentence you all to death by dragon fire. Well since you're naked. Huh? Now what? By the Maker, all three of you need to stop eyeing my man. He's mine and I don't share. Sex last night sure was rough. Tore up the whole room.
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 5:46:27 GMT
Rasera, Qunari Mage Sleeping Beauty Awakes Sleeping Beauty ponders Sleeping Beauty goes "what the F now?" I've made it a goal to actually read codex this game.... wonder how long that will last... But discovered there was actually assasination attempts on my Sleeping Beauty during her time of weakness.
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 17:55:10 GMT
She is pretty Phoray! You do such a lovely job with the makeup especially the eye shadow and liner! I guess I chose the highlight color, but this is where most of that effort came from: Nexus Mod: Qunari Cateye Makeup
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 18:32:46 GMT
My game is broken! I fell through Haven Chantry's floor, then headed out the back through a mystery door. This must be the Mountain Path Roderick remembers about! Out of Bounds is so pretty. If "open World" meant you could see a town from a distance and get larger as you move in...
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Post by jaerick243 on Aug 30, 2018 20:39:09 GMT
I have to apologize to all qunquisitor fans out there, but I restarted as a boring human female warrior. Still plan to go with Champion, but also is something of the black sheep of the family (losing all support when a certain someone ends up in her bed).
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Post by Catilina on Aug 30, 2018 21:19:25 GMT
seems good, though I could never play an archer in Inquisition. For some reason, I always have to play DW rogues if playing a rogue in this game. Still, Qunari seems better as a warrior to me. No offense meant, of course. I like Archer but it really does feel odd playing this hulky Qunari and being an archer, not quite immersion breaking but I am aware of it. My preference is always dual wielding rogue but I just did that in DA2 so thought I'd do something different. Nothing to be offended by One of my Qunari is a mage, the other is an archer. Can you imagine how powerful are his shoots? And:
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Post by jaerick243 on Aug 30, 2018 21:23:57 GMT
I like Archer but it really does feel odd playing this hulky Qunari and being an archer, not quite immersion breaking but I am aware of it. My preference is always dual wielding rogue but I just did that in DA2 so thought I'd do something different. Nothing to be offended by One of my Qunari is a mage, the other is an archer. Can you imagine how powerful are his shoots? And: For me, the issue is more thematic. Being a mercenary, it makes more sense to be a strong warrior or powerful mage, rather than an acrobatic archer/double dagger rogue. Can it work? Sure, but it feels right being anything but a rogue.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 30, 2018 21:31:35 GMT
One of my Qunari is a mage, the other is an archer. Can you imagine how powerful are his shoots? And: For me, the issue is more thematic. Being a mercenary, it makes more sense to be a strong warrior or powerful mage, rather than an acrobatic archer/double dagger rogue. Can it work? Sure, but it feels right being anything but a rogue. Even the Templars have archers.
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Post by dazk on Aug 30, 2018 21:53:09 GMT
My game is broken! I fell through Haven Chantry's floor, then headed out the back through a mystery door. This must be the Mountain Path Roderick remembers about! Out of Bounds is so pretty. If "open World" meant you could see a town from a distance and get larger as you move in... I fell through the floor at Skyhold once and found this:
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Post by jaerick243 on Aug 30, 2018 22:01:21 GMT
For me, the issue is more thematic. Being a mercenary, it makes more sense to be a strong warrior or powerful mage, rather than an acrobatic archer/double dagger rogue. Can it work? Sure, but it feels right being anything but a rogue. Even the Templars have archers. Well, Technically, Even Templar archers would be trained as warriors. Alistair tells you if you are not a warrior when asking about becoming a Templar that he needs someone trained as a warrior, since they are trained in weapons and combat. Also, Origins warriors had all the weapon styles, though they only get W+S and 2h styles. Cullen, I believe, says that Templars are the best combatants in Thedas even without the archers. Plus, in Inquisition, The archers use the Enchanter Illana set from DA 2. Also does not help that Templar is a specialization for warriors and not rogues. It was just my personal opinion.
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Post by Catilina on Aug 30, 2018 22:15:58 GMT
Even the Templars have archers. Well, Technically, Even Templar archers would be trained as warriors. Alistair tells you if you are not a warrior when asking about becoming a Templar that he needs someone trained as a warrior, since they are trained in weapons and combat. Also, Origins warriors had all the weapon styles, though they only get W+S and 2h styles. Cullen, I believe, says that Templars are the best combatants in Thedas even without the archers. Plus, in Inquisition, The archers use the Enchanter Illana set from DA 2. Also does not help that Templar is a specialization for warriors and not rogues. It was just my personal opinion. Yes. Of course. Technically archers. Probably they're also good warriors, but even talented archers. Everyone has his imagination. For example, my mage Hawkes able to fight without magic – not that effective like Fenris, but like Carver, at least at the beginning.
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 22:19:36 GMT
My game is broken! I fell through Haven Chantry's floor, then headed out the back through a mystery door. This must be the Mountain Path Roderick remembers about! Out of Bounds is so pretty. If "open World" meant you could see a town from a distance and get larger as you move in... Well if it's going to break at least it broke in an entertaining way. Better now? Nope! I have been having major problems. Uninstalled the whole game and told it to reinstall before I left for work.
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 22:39:46 GMT
Nope! I have been having major problems. Uninstalled the whole game and told it to reinstall before I left for work. Crap. Maybe play vanilla for a while? I know that was a typo but I love the thought of you pointing at the game and saying 'you better bloody well install by the time I get home or so help me I'll put you in the recycling bin! ' I don't like vanilla qunari at all. So I'd have to scrap the whole PT if I played Vanilla. Told is shorted than "instructed, clicked, commanded".
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Post by phoray on Aug 30, 2018 22:47:23 GMT
I don't like vanilla qunari at all. So I'd have to scrap the whole PT if I played Vanilla. Damn. Has anything changed with your setup since your last PT? Hmm... Probably literally everything Qunari related to this PT. I was playing a Super Andrastian man romancing Dorian but nothing in me wants to finish him other than check marking off that I'd done Dorian's romance. I played the Intro TO Haven just fine. But once I arrive at Haven, the Smith and his equipment aren't there and I can't "find" taegans notes. So I thought moving forward with the Main story would force it to reload Haven correctly (after a full restart of my computer didn't). And then I fell through the floor. Had an adventure. And then even in Admin mode it wouldn't turn off. I had deleted two files of "profile preference" when troubleshooting my Gamepad. I find it hard to believe that is the issue but maybe it was.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 30, 2018 23:10:58 GMT
Actually if we are talking about real life Archery during the times of which Dragon Age takes place lots of muscle mass would likely be very valuable. Afterall swords of the time apparently only weighed maybe at the most five pounds or so: www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm#.W4h2sMtlCL0Now granted the Dragon Age swords did look sometimes significantly larger but I would have a hard time based on that to believe that even blades like Sulevin's blade would weigh in excess of twenty pounds or so. However traditional Archery you had to reliably be able to penetrate plate from a pretty fair distance. This led to, from what I remember reading, of having Archery Draw Weights of about 150 pounds, maybe even higher. dankoboldt.com/medieval-versus-modern-archery/Now while its not one to one between what you can lift and what your archery draw weight is...from the research I have done...its close. And also granted the combat distances in Dragon Age are nowhere near 400 yards, from Inquisition's combat description we can reasonably assume 25 meters is a pretty good shot for an Archer in the normal combat of DA. But given how those arrows can still penetrate plate and do massive amounts of damage to plate armor wielding foes I'd bet the Draw Weight of the higher end bows in Dragon Age are on the high side rather then the low side. Admittedly this too was a bit of a faux paux...and not to out myself for my accidental predjduices, but I also generally assumed being a 'bow rogue' would be something more for women then men since men would be more muscly and since swords would be harder to use in combat then bows in that respect. Its something I plan on 'fixing' in DA 4 whereas one of my characers should be a female warrior while I will run a bow rogue male (which I have already referenced a couple of times )
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Post by Catilina on Aug 30, 2018 23:25:59 GMT
Actually if we are talking about real life Archery during the times of which Dragon Age takes place lots of muscle mass would likely be very valuable. Afterall swords of the time apparently only weighed maybe at the most five pounds or so: www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm#.W4h2sMtlCL0Now granted the Dragon Age swords did look sometimes significantly larger but I would have a hard time based on that to believe that even blades like Sulevin's blade would weigh in excess of twenty pounds or so. However traditional Archery you had to reliably be able to penetrate plate from a pretty fair distance. This led to, from what I remember reading, of having Archery Draw Weights of about 150 pounds, maybe even higher. dankoboldt.com/medieval-versus-modern-archery/Now while its not one to one between what you can lift and what your archery draw weight is...from the research I have done...its close. And also granted the combat distances in Dragon Age are nowhere near 400 yards, from Inquisition's combat description we can reasonably assume 25 meters is a pretty good shot for an Archer in the normal combat of DA. But given how those arrows can still penetrate plate and do massive amounts of damage to plate armor wielding foes I'd bet the Draw Weight of the higher end bows in Dragon Age are on the high side rather then the low side. Admittedly this too was a bit of a faux paux...and not to out myself for my accidental predjduices, but I also generally assumed being a 'bow rogue' would be something more for women then men since men would be more muscly and since swords would be harder to use in combat then bows in that respect. Its something I plan on 'fixing' in DA 4 whereas one of my characers should be a female warrior while I will run a bow rogue male (which I have already referenced a couple of times ) This.
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Post by jaerick243 on Aug 30, 2018 23:48:02 GMT
Actually if we are talking about real life Archery during the times of which Dragon Age takes place lots of muscle mass would likely be very valuable. Afterall swords of the time apparently only weighed maybe at the most five pounds or so: www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm#.W4h2sMtlCL0Now granted the Dragon Age swords did look sometimes significantly larger but I would have a hard time based on that to believe that even blades like Sulevin's blade would weigh in excess of twenty pounds or so. However traditional Archery you had to reliably be able to penetrate plate from a pretty fair distance. This led to, from what I remember reading, of having Archery Draw Weights of about 150 pounds, maybe even higher. dankoboldt.com/medieval-versus-modern-archery/Now while its not one to one between what you can lift and what your archery draw weight is...from the research I have done...its close. And also granted the combat distances in Dragon Age are nowhere near 400 yards, from Inquisition's combat description we can reasonably assume 25 meters is a pretty good shot for an Archer in the normal combat of DA. But given how those arrows can still penetrate plate and do massive amounts of damage to plate armor wielding foes I'd bet the Draw Weight of the higher end bows in Dragon Age are on the high side rather then the low side. Admittedly this too was a bit of a faux paux...and not to out myself for my accidental predjduices, but I also generally assumed being a 'bow rogue' would be something more for women then men since men would be more muscly and since swords would be harder to use in combat then bows in that respect. Its something I plan on 'fixing' in DA 4 whereas one of my characers should be a female warrior while I will run a bow rogue male (which I have already referenced a couple of times ) Thing is, in the real world, Women did not normally fight in military organizations. Even if they did, it was more defensive, as they genetically were weaker than males (do not blame me, that is science). But that was not really the point. The point was that, in my opinion, Qunari inquisitor just feels better as a warrior due to being taller and (generally) stronger than the other races, since they are a mercenary. For the other races, rogue fits just as well as anything else, more so in the case of dwarves (they are carta, thus criminals). IF archer was allowed for warriors, we would not be having this argument.
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Post by colfoley on Aug 31, 2018 0:17:02 GMT
Actually if we are talking about real life Archery during the times of which Dragon Age takes place lots of muscle mass would likely be very valuable. Afterall swords of the time apparently only weighed maybe at the most five pounds or so: www.thearma.org/essays/weights.htm#.W4h2sMtlCL0Now granted the Dragon Age swords did look sometimes significantly larger but I would have a hard time based on that to believe that even blades like Sulevin's blade would weigh in excess of twenty pounds or so. However traditional Archery you had to reliably be able to penetrate plate from a pretty fair distance. This led to, from what I remember reading, of having Archery Draw Weights of about 150 pounds, maybe even higher. dankoboldt.com/medieval-versus-modern-archery/Now while its not one to one between what you can lift and what your archery draw weight is...from the research I have done...its close. And also granted the combat distances in Dragon Age are nowhere near 400 yards, from Inquisition's combat description we can reasonably assume 25 meters is a pretty good shot for an Archer in the normal combat of DA. But given how those arrows can still penetrate plate and do massive amounts of damage to plate armor wielding foes I'd bet the Draw Weight of the higher end bows in Dragon Age are on the high side rather then the low side. Admittedly this too was a bit of a faux paux...and not to out myself for my accidental predjduices, but I also generally assumed being a 'bow rogue' would be something more for women then men since men would be more muscly and since swords would be harder to use in combat then bows in that respect. Its something I plan on 'fixing' in DA 4 whereas one of my characers should be a female warrior while I will run a bow rogue male (which I have already referenced a couple of times ) Thing is, in the real world, Women did not normally fight in military organizations. Even if they did, it was more defensive, as they genetically were weaker than males (do not blame me, that is science). But that was not really the point. The point was that, in my opinion, Qunari inquisitor just feels better as a warrior due to being taller and (generally) stronger than the other races, since they are a mercenary. For the other races, rogue fits just as well as anything else, more so in the case of dwarves (they are carta, thus criminals). IF archer was allowed for warriors, we would not be having this argument. And my point is that heavy muscle mass could be as much of a boon for an Archer as a front line warrior. I mean hell the Ben Hasrath are normally portrayed as being rogues as was the Arishock from DA 2.
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Post by jaerick243 on Aug 31, 2018 0:37:44 GMT
Thing is, in the real world, Women did not normally fight in military organizations. Even if they did, it was more defensive, as they genetically were weaker than males (do not blame me, that is science). But that was not really the point. The point was that, in my opinion, Qunari inquisitor just feels better as a warrior due to being taller and (generally) stronger than the other races, since they are a mercenary. For the other races, rogue fits just as well as anything else, more so in the case of dwarves (they are carta, thus criminals). IF archer was allowed for warriors, we would not be having this argument. And my point is that heavy muscle mass could be as much of a boon for an Archer as a front line warrior. I mean hell the Ben Hasrath are normally portrayed as being rogues as was the Arishock from DA 2. Well, the Arishok is a bit of an anomaly. I mean, he acts more like a warrior than a rogue, outside of DW, though those weapons are aesthetically designed as two handed weapons, which are the domain of warriors, though they are daggers for that purpose. Also, Bull is Ben Hassrath and a warrior, so stealthy combat is not a requirement for being one of them. Besides, I did mention that when this topic first came up. but I still say warrior is better for Qunari inquisitor. But let me end this with: Qunari inquisitors were supposed to be bodyguarding the Divine (allegedly), which works best as a warrior, or at least better than a rogue.
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