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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2018 21:02:05 GMT
I never succeeded the public truce – what would my favourite end of the empire. They deserve each other! Just smile, your Majesties! I did that my last game. You need to find blackmail material against all of them and then reveal that you do have it but won't use it. In my opinion it's too complicated and not worth it. If you put them all in truce at the end game they fight all the time and the Empire isn't stable. I'm more and more inclined to believe in this scenario that mercy isn't worth it. The best outcome would be to put Celene solely in power and execute both Gaspard and Briala because when any of them live they start scheming again. You're pretty much back to square one at the start of the ball where everyone is playing their game. Best to limit those players.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 30, 2018 21:05:24 GMT
Having used all the treaties it was now time to go to Redcliffe and see if the rumors about the Arl sickness were true. Upon arriving at Redcliffe Alistair confessed he`s Maric`s bastard son. The village was under attack by undead that came from the castle. Bann Teagan asked the wardens to help the village survive the undead night attack. They rallied everyone they could to help in the atack and they managed to save everyone in the village. Bann Teagan revealed the existence of a secret passage into the castle. Meanwhile Lady Isolde appeared and asked that Teagan went alone to the castle with her. Sara entered the castle thought the passage in the mill and in it`s dungeons she found her old friend Jowan. Jowan was hired by Isolde to teach her son Connor, who was a mage, in secret so he could learn to hide his magic. But she didn`t know that Jowan had already been hired by Loghain to poison the Arl. When the attacked started she thought Jowan was responsable for the undead attack so she imprisoned and tortured him to make him undo it, but Connor was the one responsable for it by making a deal with a demon. Jowan asked Sara to let him help make things right but she knew that if she let him, in the end he would be imprisoned, killed or made tranquil and she couldn`t let that happen to him, even if he deserved to pay for what it did. So she let him go, with the hope that his regret was authentic, giving him a second chance to return to be the good person she knew in the past. They fought their way through the castle until they reached the main hall. Connor made Teagan and the guards attack them before running to the family quarters. Upon reflection it was decided that the best course of action was to go to the Circle, only a day journey away, and ask the mages help, so they could try to destroy the demon inside connor in the Fade without killing him. Grand enchanter Irving accepted their request and went to the castle with enough lyrium to send Sara to the Fade. There she faced the desire demon and defeated it, saving Connor and the village. But the Arl was still in a comatose state and his only hope was to find Andraste`s ashes, whose legend said it could cure anything. Their best lead was to find Genitivi, a scholar that was trying to find Andraste`s last resting place but that had mysteriously disappeared. We that in mind, they decided that their next step was to go to Denerim and find some clues about Genitivi`s whereabouts in his house. And what I understand is that Alistair is (could be) an elf-blood.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 30, 2018 21:10:03 GMT
I never succeeded the public truce – what would my favourite end of the empire. They deserve each other! Just smile, your Majesties! I did that my last game. You need to find blackmail material against all of them and then reveal that you do have it but won't use it. In my opinion it's too complicated and not worth it. If you put them all in truce at the end game they fight all the time and the Empire isn't stable. I'm more and more inclined to believe in this scenario that mercy isn't worth it. The best outcome would be to put Celene solely in power and execute both Gaspard and Briala because when any of them live they start scheming again. You're pretty much back to square one at the start of the ball where everyone is playing their game. Best to limit those players. True but there will be no one that has the elves interest at heart. Celene is only concern about keeping her throne. There will always be others like Gaspar to rise against her. Executing Gaspar, though, is not a terrible play to me as he is not a man who would care about peace. He would become more of a tyrant if he can get his way. About the blackmail material, I think they should've kept it behind locked doors (along with better loot) that require hallas in order to finding hallas more rewarding. I thought it was sloppy when you suddenly find tons of blackmail material all over the place while there are party guests sitting around them. Well, if no one notices the blood splatters on the tile, guess no one would care about some documents and love letters lying about either.
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Post by Liadan on Oct 30, 2018 21:35:06 GMT
And what I understand is that Alistair is (could be) an elf-blood. Yes, the devs confirmed it in a Q&A session that occurred sometime before DAI launched. I know you said you didn`t mind spoilers but you also said, i believe, that you haven`t read "The Calling" yet, so i`ll put the explanation in spoiler tags as it has major spoilers from the book. They confirmed that Alistair is the son of Maric and Fiona, the grey warden mage that accompanied Maric to the Deep Roads (and that in DAI is the leader of the rebel mages). Maric and Fiona became lovers in the Deep Roads and in the end of the book, she shows Maric that she had his baby and made him promise that for their son protection he must never know who his parents were. Duncan is also present and promised to watch over their son. There wasn`t any confirmation that Alistair was that baby until that Q&A session.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 30, 2018 21:40:23 GMT
And what I understand is that Alistair is (could be) an elf-blood. Yes, the devs confirmed it in a Q&A session that occurred sometime before DAI launched. I know you said you didn`t mind spoilers but you also said, i believe, that you haven`t read "The Calling" yet, so i`ll put the explanation in spoiler tags as it has major spoilers from the book. They confirmed that Alistair is the son of Maric and Fiona, the grey warden mage that accompanied Maric to the Deep Roads (and that in DAI is the leader of the rebel mages). Maric and Fiona became lovers in the Deep Roads and in the end of the book, she shows Maric that she had his baby and made him promise that for their son protection he must never know who his parents were. Duncan is also present and promised to watch over their son. There wasn`t any confirmation that Alistair was that baby until that Q&A session. Wow. Now I see Fiona in a whole different light. I just bought the audiobook!
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Post by Catilina on Oct 30, 2018 21:44:44 GMT
I never succeeded the public truce – what would my favourite end of the empire. They deserve each other! Just smile, your Majesties! I did that my last game. You need to find blackmail material against all of them and then reveal that you do have it but won't use it. In my opinion it's too complicated and not worth it. If you put them all in truce at the end game they fight all the time and the Empire isn't stable. I'm more and more inclined to believe in this scenario that mercy isn't worth it. The best outcome would be to put Celene solely in power and execute both Gaspard and Briala because when any of them live they start scheming again. You're pretty much back to square one at the start of the ball where everyone is playing their game. Best to limit those players. Not worth it? This is the point! The greatest profit! As I wrote: my favourite END of the Empire...
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Post by Liadan on Oct 30, 2018 22:04:35 GMT
Yes, the devs confirmed it in a Q&A session that occurred sometime before DAI launched. I know you said you didn`t mind spoilers but you also said, i believe, that you haven`t read "The Calling" yet, so i`ll put the explanation in spoiler tags as it has major spoilers from the book. They confirmed that Alistair is the son of Maric and Fiona, the grey warden mage that accompanied Maric to the Deep Roads (and that in DAI is the leader of the rebel mages). Maric and Fiona became lovers in the Deep Roads and in the end of the book, she shows Maric that she had his baby and made him promise that for their son protection he must never know who his parents were. Duncan is also present and promised to watch over their son. There wasn`t any confirmation that Alistair was that baby until that Q&A session. Wow. Now I see Fiona in a whole different light. I just bought the audiobook! In DAI, if Alistair is the king and you side with the mages, Fiona asks about him.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 30, 2018 22:28:20 GMT
Wow. Now I see Fiona in a whole different light. I just bought the audiobook! In DAI, if Alistair is the king and you side with the mages, Fiona asks about him. I don't remember having this dialog with Fiona because my world state was at default with no data from prior games saved as I have never played DAO or DA2...or did it matter? I must not have paid attention. I did, however, got a couple of quests from Alistair on the wartable. Everyone must've those too regardless of prior world state.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 30, 2018 22:35:37 GMT
In DAI, if Alistair is the king and you side with the mages, Fiona asks about him. I don't remember having this dialog with Fiona because my world state was at default with no data from prior games saved as I have never played DAO or DA2...or did it matter? I must not have paid attention. I did, however, got a couple of quests from Alistair on the wartable. Everyone must've those too regardless of prior world state. Who was your Warden?
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 30, 2018 23:03:06 GMT
I don't remember having this dialog with Fiona because my world state was at default with no data from prior games saved as I have never played DAO or DA2...or did it matter? I must not have paid attention. I did, however, got a couple of quests from Alistair on the wartable. Everyone must've those too regardless of prior world state. Who was your Warden? ?? Fiona, Blackwall and then Stroud are the only wardens I encounter in DAI. No one prior to DAI.
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Post by Catilina on Oct 30, 2018 23:05:14 GMT
?? Fiona, Blackwall and then Stroud are the only wardens I encounter in DAI. No one prior to DAI. So, Stroud is Hawke's Warden friend in your world state. Probably he's the default...
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 30, 2018 23:17:23 GMT
?? Fiona, Blackwall and then Stroud are the only wardens I encounter in DAI. No one prior to DAI. So, Stroud is Hawke's Warden friend in your world state. Probably he's the default... Yes. Hawke introduces Stroud as a Warden in hiding. Who was your Warden? What is your world state like?
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Post by Catilina on Oct 30, 2018 23:19:29 GMT
So, Stroud is Hawke's Warden friend in your world state. Probably he's the default... Yes. Hawke introduces Stroud as a Warden in hiding. Who was your Warden? What is your world state like? Stroud or Loghain, in my worlds Alistair is king or drunk. It depends who is my actual Warden and Hawke. My Cousland, for example, married with Anora for the Throne, and kept his father alive for a wedding gift (he was lack of the diamond ring at the moment...). In this world state Alistair is drunk. Reinhardt met with him in The Hanged Man. I often used that world state – Loghain's a great sacrifice material.
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Post by melbella on Oct 31, 2018 0:14:10 GMT
Public truce is my fav, especially after reading The Masked Empire. Let Orlais burn with its three-headed leadership tries to not look miserable, while I watch from the distance with bag of popcorn. It's what I usually do as well since I hate them all equally and think they all deserve each other.
I'm more and more inclined to believe in this scenario that mercy isn't worth it. The best outcome would be to put Celene solely in power and execute both Gaspard and Briala because when any of them live they start scheming again. I've done this once and I'm pretty sure Celene was eye-balling my single male Inquisitor and sizing him up for marriage material. (he was dating Dorian though so not interested) I thought it was sloppy when you suddenly find tons of blackmail material all over the place while there are party guests sitting around them.
The blackmail material that you collect for Leliana is not the blackmail material for the 3 way truce. The former just gives you approval. The latter involves getting the elf you save from a harlequin to testify against Briala; the captain you rescue at the fade rift to testify against Gaspard; and the tied up guy to blab that she knew about the planned attack and was going to let it happen. This is why you need the 5 statues to get into her room.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 0:21:03 GMT
I've done this once and I'm pretty sure Celene was eye-balling my single male Inquisitor and sizing him up for marriage material. Oh those Orlesians. Loghain was onto something with them always out to acquire your assets. They either marry you or poison your punch.
I've once set her up on the throne but kept Gaspard alive for company. I guess he kept her busy enough. No funny eyes there. And I was free to laugh at just Cullen dodging grabby hands.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 31, 2018 1:36:55 GMT
Yes. Hawke introduces Stroud as a Warden in hiding. Who was your Warden? What is your world state like? Stroud or Loghain, in my worlds Alistair is king or drunk. It depends who is my actual Warden and Hawke. My Cousland, for example, married with Anora for the Throne, and kept his father alive for a wedding gift (he was lack of the diamond ring at the moment...). In this world state Alistair is drunk. Reinhardt met with him in The Hanged Man. I often used that world state – Loghain's a great sacrifice material. LOL, I have to imagine Alistair drunk. Why was he drunk? Oh no, I hear adonniel in my head saying, "Play it, play it!"
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2018 1:47:31 GMT
Stroud or Loghain, in my worlds Alistair is king or drunk. It depends who is my actual Warden and Hawke. My Cousland, for example, married with Anora for the Throne, and kept his father alive for a wedding gift (he was lack of the diamond ring at the moment...). In this world state Alistair is drunk. Reinhardt met with him in The Hanged Man. I often used that world state – Loghain's a great sacrifice material. LOL, I have to imagine Alistair drunk. Why was he drunk? Oh no, I hear adonniel in my head saying, "Play it, play it!" So: you need spoiler, or not? Okay, you decide! (I love DAO better than DAI, and I love DA2 better than DAO...) Because Aedan didn't execute Loghain not even let Alistair execute Loghain – but recruited him... while in Alistair's eyes to be a Grey Warden is an honour, Loghain doesn't deserve. So, Alistair stormed away – if the Warden doesn't let Anora execute him... (Bioware loves this: Sebastian left Hawke if doesn't execute Anders... But Alistair still better than Sebastian...)
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 2:47:59 GMT
LOL, I have to imagine Alistair drunk. Why was he drunk? Oh no, I hear adonniel in my head saying, "Play it, play it!" I could never say no to a handsome Mabari party member!
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2018 2:54:55 GMT
LOL, I have to imagine Alistair drunk. Why was he drunk? Oh no, I hear adonniel in my head saying, "Play it, play it!" I could never say no to a handsome Mabari party member! Stop being manipulative! This is an unfair tool of persuading!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2018 3:10:17 GMT
Stop being manipulative! This is an unfair tool of persuading! we are very ashamed
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 31, 2018 3:13:23 GMT
LOL, I have to imagine Alistair drunk. Why was he drunk? Oh no, I hear adonniel in my head saying, "Play it, play it!" I could never say no to a handsome Mabari party member! LOL, pup pup. Who's my boy?!
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Post by Catilina on Oct 31, 2018 3:14:19 GMT
Stop being manipulative! This is an unfair tool of persuading! we are very ashamed "It's not working on me, I'm a cat person."
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 31, 2018 3:17:56 GMT
I could never say no to a handsome Mabari party member! Stop being manipulative! This is an unfair tool of persuading! I got an even better pet manipulator. My transicat, Zeppo.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Oct 31, 2018 3:20:57 GMT
Sounds like Bioware need to do a better job in improving the next version or DAI will be better than DA___.
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