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Post by Slyvalyth on Nov 2, 2018 19:16:51 GMT
I finished the main game . The army was gathered and was marching towards Denerim. Riordan explained to Sara and Alistair that only a Grey Warden could kill the Archdemon and he would die in the process. Morrigan suggested a ritual that would save both the wardens and would preserve the old god soul inside the Archdemon. In order to do the ritual Sara had to convince Alistair to sleep with Morrigan , Alistair agreed only because it could save Sara and Riordan. One of the things i really liked in DAO and DA2 was the farewell talks with your companions before the final battle . They fought the darkspawn generals and managed to arrived at the top of Fort Drakon to fight the Archdemon. The Archdemon was defeated and Sara gave it the final blow, killing the Archdemon and ending the Blight. Sara was declared the Hero of Ferelden and a celebration was held in her honor. She asked for the circle freedom as a boon and Anora agreed (although we know that it doesn`t happen ) Is Sara a mage and a 2-handed sword wielder?
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Post by vertigomez on Nov 2, 2018 19:30:53 GMT
Today: an update that actually involves gameplay! At once point or another, I have played all of the origin stories in Dragon Age: Origins, but the two dwarf stories remain my favourites. (I think I slightly prefer the noble to the commoner, but they're both wonderful.) While I do have plans for another Brosca in the future, this time around I made another Aeducan. My favourite DA protagonist ever - maybe my favourite RPG character I've ever made - was my first Aeducan Warden, so this guy has a lot to live up to. I don't see much point in making a new character for a given origin story and doing all the same things, so I made sure that Wulfric Aeducan would be different from Kaelle Aeducan from the start. He's a rogue archer where she was a sword-and-board warrior, and he's a charming bastard with a keen interest in political power where she was blunt and guileless and wanted to ignore the whole princess thing as much as possible. One of the reasons I love this origin so much is that it does a great job of tossing you in the deep end of dwarven politics, which is a very deep end indeed. Everyone is trying to manipulate you, and you can resist or manipulate them right back, although at least for the moment you're bound to lose. Last time, my character did nothing wrong and was framed by Bhelen anyway, so I decided to play it the other way this time and play a character who was already thinking about shanking Trian. Helpfully, Trian is a complete dick and gives you plenty of reasons to dislike him. (I had somehow managed to forget that over the course of eight years, mainly because his youngest sibling is so much worse due to being more effective at it.) Appropriately, Trian died when shot in the back by his younger brother, who was then shot in the back metaphorically by his younger brother. On the whole, I think I prefer the version where your character is innocent, if only because it's even more devastating to lose everything when you've done nothing to deserve it. Still, there's something to be said for making a character who plays the game and loses to Bhelen, and I imagine it will play out in interesting ways once Wulfric finally gets back to Orzammar. The moment when Aeducan is locked in the Deep Roads with only a sword (not that much help if you're an archer) is one of my favourites in all of Dragon Age. Even though all the origins suffer, Aeducan is the only one who loses everything - not to death, like Cousland does, or to separation like Mahariel, but to banishment. Down in the Deep Roads you really have got nothing until you fight your way to Duncan's side. The actual initiation and Joining feel like a bit of an afterthought after that trial by fire. i.imgur.com/PfuDuc3.pngThen Duncan made Wulfric walk all the way to Ostagar without shoes. Mean! I for one am looking forward to Wulfric's story. 👀 Especially the part where he gets some new shoes! 😋 For real though, the dwarven origins (both of them!) are veritable treasure troves of great writing. I absolutely love them. I almost can't play anything else because I'm 99% sure we'll never get this kind of in-depth dwarven background ever again, and I've got to take advantage of it where I can LOL. Going back to Orzammar is so satisfying and I love that, either way you play it, you're part of the Brosca-Aeducan family tree. What a bunch of badasses. Sidenote, whenever someone brings up politics and shady maneuvering I always feel the need to post this baddie...
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Post by Rascoth on Nov 2, 2018 19:53:18 GMT
Is Sara a mage and a 2-handed sword wielder? In DAO mages could wield 2h sword. But this particular case is cutscene where every warden wields a sword.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Nov 2, 2018 20:09:18 GMT
Is Sara a mage and a 2-handed sword wielder? In DAO mages could wield 2h sword. But this particular case is cutscene where every warden wields a sword. Ah, gotcha. Would've made sense if I saw both the staff and the sword on Sara's back.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 2, 2018 20:49:20 GMT
Ah yes, there are people out there that fear mages and don't go out of their way in really know them as people that has the same blood coursing through their veins People like Cullen also have serious reasons to fear mages. You'd be surprised to meet him in DAO or DA2. It's the Chantry's sin. There's no "both side is has a point, no good choice".
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Post by bardox on Nov 2, 2018 22:44:32 GMT
Cullen is a curious figure. In DA:O, he is cautious, but not cruel. In DA2, his persona, still reeling from the events of DA:O, is more cold and callused. DA:I comes around and... something has changed. He has seen mages go too far AND Templars do the same... he has found a very shaky middle ground that your actions can drastically effect.
Next to Morrigan, Cullen has had the most character development among the DA characters... I put Morrigan ahead of Cullen cause... well... Morrigan is my Beau... Tried every romance in the series, and she is still my favorite.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 2, 2018 23:26:57 GMT
Cullen is a curious figure. In DA:O, he is cautious, but not cruel. In DA2, his persona, still reeling from the events of DA:O, is more cold and callused. DA:I comes around and... something has changed. He has seen mages go too far AND Templars do the same... he has found a very shaky middle ground that your actions can drastically effect. Next to Morrigan, Cullen has had the most character development among the DA characters... I put Morrigan ahead of Cullen cause... well... Morrigan is my Beau... Tried every romance in the series, and she is still my favorite. There's no "middle ground" in this fight. (Why people love that "middle ground"? Sometimes must to choose a side!) The Chantry and the Seekers went too far... and the Templars lost their mind. They attacked the mages who only wanted to be independent, free. To fight for the freedom can't mean they "went too far". And Cullen still didn't change enough. He's already on the right way, but he just at the start. (In DAO, he's not cruel, yes. He's mad. Wants to kill everyone. In DA2 he still not intact. He saw, that Meredith's mad, but didn't want to see.)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 23:35:11 GMT
And Cullen still didn't change enough. From the perspective of the guy who committed BIG BOOM it's rather hard to reach the bar of committing 'enough' for the cause. Everyone of 'half measure' falls short of his little expectation.
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 2, 2018 23:43:13 GMT
[quote author=" Catilina" [/quote]It's the Chantry's sin. There's no "both side is has a point, no good choice".[/quote] Yes. This pretty much. .. Hard to believe that a bunch of little old ladies can cause so much tidal wave in Thedas, eh? ^^' The scary part is that probably when the Chantry was formed, it was a good organization aiming to protect both sides. Heck, the circle of mages were probably the first proper institution for mages to learn and live in peace. And then as years go by, we got the Chantry that's rife with petty squables, steep in prejudice, 'jailing' mages and turn unsuspecting recruits to lyrium addicts. Makes me worried about the fate of the Inquisition in the long run if you don't disband ^^' damn I hope they won't screw up
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2018 23:47:43 GMT
.. Hard to believe that a bunch of little old ladies can cause so much tidal wave in Thedas, eh? OLD ladies? Weren't they a bunch of Se.... Cassandra is watching you now... with disapproval.
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Post by Catilina on Nov 2, 2018 23:52:28 GMT
Yes. This pretty much. ... Hard to believe that a bunch of little old ladies can cause so much tidal wave in Thedas, eh? ^^' The scary part is that probably when the Chantry was formed, it was a good organization aiming to protect both sides. Heck, the circle of mages were probably the first proper institution for mages to learn and live in peace. And then as years go by, we got the Chantry that's rife with petty squables, steep in prejudice, 'jailing' mages and turn unsuspecting recruits to lyrium addicts. Makes me worried about the fate of the Inquisition in the long run if you don't disband ^^' damn I hope they won't screw up And according to some sources, they hunted and killed the mages before... until, they figured out, that the magic is useful against the Blight, and the mages are willing to help (of course). So: they "just" locked up them, and used them when they were "useful". Not much better...
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Post by Catilina on Nov 3, 2018 0:02:00 GMT
.. Hard to believe that a bunch of little old ladies can cause so much tidal wave in Thedas, eh? OLD ladies? Weren't they a bunch of Se.... Cassandra is watching you now... with disapproval. Old CROWS better?
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Post by Slyvalyth on Nov 3, 2018 3:16:02 GMT
Cullen is a curious figure. In DA:O, he is cautious, but not cruel. In DA2, his persona, still reeling from the events of DA:O, is more cold and callused. DA:I comes around and... something has changed. He has seen mages go too far AND Templars do the same... he has found a very shaky middle ground that your actions can drastically effect. Next to Morrigan, Cullen has had the most character development among the DA characters... I put Morrigan ahead of Cullen cause... well... Morrigan is my Beau... Tried every romance in the series, and she is still my favorite. Great explanation.
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Post by Slyvalyth on Nov 3, 2018 3:20:48 GMT
Yes. This pretty much. ... Hard to believe that a bunch of little old ladies can cause so much tidal wave in Thedas, eh? ^^' The scary part is that probably when the Chantry was formed, it was a good organization aiming to protect both sides. Heck, the circle of mages were probably the first proper institution for mages to learn and live in peace. And then as years go by, we got the Chantry that's rife with petty squables, steep in prejudice, 'jailing' mages and turn unsuspecting recruits to lyrium addicts. Makes me worried about the fate of the Inquisition in the long run if you don't disband ^^' damn I hope they won't screw up And according to some sources, they hunted and killed the mages before... until, they figured out, that the magic is useful against the Blight, and the mages are willing to help (of course). So: they "just" locked up them, and used them when they were "useful". Not much better... If that's true then you have a very good argument.
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 3, 2018 5:20:31 GMT
.. Hard to believe that a bunch of little old ladies can cause so much tidal wave in Thedas, eh? OLD ladies? Weren't they a bunch of Se.... Cassandra is watching you now... with disapproval. [Disgusted Noise] 😜 Sorry Cas.. that being said, I look forward in us growing old together and pruny and be little old ladies that still scares the sh*t out of anyone in Thedas 😆
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Post by Slyvalyth on Nov 3, 2018 8:07:44 GMT
Adventure in the Western Approach, Day 1 - Confronting Corrupted Grey Wardens and other stuff [update 11/3/18 @ 10:23 pm] Read Day 2 on the Still Ruins Read Day 3, part 1 & part 2 & part 3 & part 4 & part 5 on CoracavusHawk and Stroud have been dreading this confrontation with the corrupted Grey Wardens but they needed to know the extent of their plight. Based on Stroud’s hunch, the men went to the Tevinter ritual tower and waited until Inquisitor Abram Trevelyan arrived. Abram quickly informed the men that the other inquisitors with their teams have been dispersed throughout the approach to deal with the Venatori. Stroud then led Abram, Dorian, Sera and Cassandra across the bridge as Hawk guarded their flank. At the top of the steps, they witnessed the extent of the corruption. Venatori Magister Livius Erimond was smug and over-confident. Abram couldn't wait to wipe that smile off his face. All awhile, the inquisition forces earnestly fought back the White Claws raiders, the Venatori, darkspawns, demons, and local wildlife. Other inquisition soldiers protected the engineers that were completing the bridges across the sulphur pits. They couldn't say that they were bored sitting around with sand in their small clothes. Sehareh Adaar, Iron Bull, Sera and Solas then joined Anduin and Vellalore Trevelyan in taking over the Griffon Keep before... ...defeating Crassius Servis at Echoback Fort. It was a very long day for everyone involved. As the inquisition forces slowly journeyed back to Griffon Keep, Vellalore took a moment to view the approach from the tallest perch she could find. She have not heard a word about the team at the ritual tower and asked a scout to check. The scout reported back that Abram is still listening to Hawk and Stroud bicker long after they've killed the corrupted wardens and their demons. Their other companions were nowhere to be found. Scouts patrolling the captured areas gave word that Dorian, Sera and Cassandra were seen at one of the Venatori camps, collecting food and supplies. Vellalore was more than happy to join them to taking back all they can to the soldiers.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 3, 2018 8:41:07 GMT
I for one am looking forward to Wulfric's story. 👀 Especially the part where he gets some new shoes! 😋 Truly it is an epic tale. (OK, he went to the Quartermaster and bought some. Which was probably more complicated than it should have been because he is still figuring out money and interacting with humans, but he got there in the end.)
I sincerely believe that if you're only going to play Origins once then being a dwarf is the best possible choice. It's not only my persona bias speaking, either. If someone was only going to play Inquisition once I'd probably tell them to play an elf even though I personally prefer playing dwarves and Qunari. But being a dwarf in Origins gets you an inside look at underground society AND an excuse to ask all the dumb noob questions you want about surface stuff and/or magic AND a place in the badass Aeducan/Brosca family tree AND one of the best-written origin stories. What a great video! Thank you for the link.
ETA: I do not know WTF happened to the formatting on this post, sorry if anyone saw the mess before I fixed it.
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Post by Andraste_Reborn on Nov 3, 2018 8:50:14 GMT
Today on the continuing adventures of Wulfric Aeducan: the Kokari Wilds! The Joining! The Tower of Ishal! Finally, some shoes! I haven't replayed Origins since before Inquisition came out, so it's been a bit over four years, but arriving at Ostagar is still like sliding into a warm bath. (Only full of darkspawn instead of water.) Wulfric bought himself some new boots, still trying to get the hang of this whole 'exchanging money for goods and services' thing. (When he was a prince he had people do to that for him. Or stuff just turned up without his even having to ask.) For roleplaying reasons, I always just sort of pretend that my inventory is not full of valuable Tier Seven DLC equipment at this stage of the game, so I did not sell the Reaper's Cudgel and clean out the merchant's inventory. Instead, Wulfric picked the pockets of anyone in the camp who looked like they had money. Alas, he was quite good at it so I still haven't heard the dialogue Duncan apparently has if you try and fuck up. (Why can a man who is slightly unclear on how shops work pick pockets? Well, if you're involved in dwarven politics, I imagine it's quite useful to find out what notes and other little items people might be carrying. He is handy with locks and sneaking around for the same reason.) He talked the guard into giving his food to the prisoner in exchange for the key and was happy with the results, and had a nice chat with Wynne. His initial impressions of the surface and most humans were not overly favourable, however, and it didn't help that Cailan was the first person he ran into at Ostagar. (I still managed to resist choosing all the 'fuck off human lord' options, though, because Wulfric is smoother than that.) He got along OK with Daveth but thought Jory was a whiny coward. The idea that fighting darkspawn was some kind of big deal to all these people was completely foreign to him. He liked Alistair OK so far but finds him a bit naive. Still, it's nice for him to have someone around to bounce jokes off now that Gorim is gone. He definitely does not trust Morrigan or Flemeth, but was polite to them because he is not an idiot. Despite being contemptuous of Jory, he probably would have refused the Joining too if it hadn't been clear that Duncan would shank him if he tried. He agreed to join the Wardens to save his own life, not to help surfacers, and he was deeply uneasy about participating in some weird magic rituals. (He doesn't fear magic, but he would prefer that people not ask him to join in. Guess how that is going to work out in the future.) Still, he's happy he made it out OK and got some sweet new armour out of the deal. The Grey Wardens of Ferelden mod is so good! ... and then the proverbial hit the fan and he was too busy fending off darkspawn to judge the humans for thinking they were a big deal. Which they actually did turn out to be. (For the army, not me as a player. I think I know the Tower of Ishal so well now that I could beat it in my sleep. I still feel nostalgic every time I get to the top and see the ogre, though. It gave me so much trouble the first time I played!) Fortunately a deus ex machina showed up and whisked all the important characters away to further adventures.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Nov 3, 2018 10:32:14 GMT
So I want to start a new more varied world state for as much as I love my all human world state...it's a bit boring
anyways, I was thinking of making my Warden a dwarf (as much as I hate the Deep Roads ), Hawke is obviously always human, and make my Quizzy an elf
at the moment I'm dubbing which of the two origins to pick for my Warden, I have finished the game with all Origins except City elf and Dwarf Noble I always have Bhelen as King of Orzammar, so playing a Casteless would make for a nice story (plus I love playing the underdog ), but having Bhelen squirm as a Noble would also be loads of fun
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Post by bardox on Nov 3, 2018 15:47:26 GMT
So I want to start a new more varied world state for as much as I love my all human world state...it's a bit boring
anyways, I was thinking of making my Warden a dwarf (as much as I hate the Deep Roads ), Hawke is obviously always human, and make my Quizzy an elf
at the moment I'm dubbing which of the two origins to pick for my Warden, I have finished the game with all Origins except City elf and Dwarf Noble I always have Bhelen as King of Orzammar, so playing a Casteless would make for a nice story (plus I love playing the underdog ), but having Bhelen squirm as a Noble would also be loads of fun
so while I'm thinking on that, I'll be playing around with the Toolset to make a unique face for my Warden As to the dwarf origins, If Bhelen is going to be your king (the better of the two options IMO) then casteless does make for a better story choice. The noble can be rationalized away as well, but you have to be able to over look the tiny detail of Bhelen killing your elder brother and blaming you for it. With the culture of Orzamar's nobility, centered around the "appearance" of honor and the family name being the most important thing, it's entirely doable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2018 16:20:58 GMT
As to the dwarf origins, If Bhelen is going to be your king (the better of the two options IMO) then casteless does make for a better story choice. The noble can be rationalized away as well, but you have to be able to over look the tiny detail of Bhelen killing your elder brother and blaming you for it. With the culture of Orzamar's nobility, centered around the "appearance" of honor and the family name being the most important thing, it's entirely doable. I could never overlook personal motivations in a story. The concept of limping justice is just too good to pass by. Eventually the sword catches up to all double crossing dustards. It's actually fascinating making the choice before playing noble dwarf origins because from the perspective of another warden if you haven't been spoiled or googled, you don't know whether the info is true about Bhelen or the opposition is simply slandering him to gain power. I've played noble human without that knowledge and rping as honourable guy, so he went for personality at a first, surface glance and chose Harrowmont, though, once I talked to more characters I've realised Bhelen is better, but it would have been out of character to double cross the initial promise. <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.960000000000036px; height: 3.3400000000000034px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_55078648" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.3400000000000034"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.34px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_48045752" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.3400000000000034"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.34px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 108px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99063852" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.3400000000000034"></iframe> <iframe style="position: absolute; width: 23.96px; height: 3.34px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1138px; top: 108px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_68574497" scrolling="no" width="23.960000000000036" height="3.3400000000000034"></iframe> Once you start playing noble dwarf though it just hits you. Yes, it's true and it makes the choice so personal and relevant.
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Post by vertigomez on Nov 3, 2018 16:45:36 GMT
The noble can be rationalized away as well, but you have to be able to over look the tiny detail of Bhelen killing your elder brother and blaming you for it. Though for the record, it's entirely possible to kill Trian yourself and earn an honest exile for his murder, if you want to make Bhelen slightly less of a bad guy.
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Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition, KOTOR, Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Nights, Jade Empire, Mass Effect Andromeda, SWTOR, Mass Effect Legendary Edition
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Post by LadyofNemesis on Nov 3, 2018 20:03:22 GMT
Just started up my Casteless girl Please meet Parvati Brosca (funnily enough some sites say that Parvati means 'daughter of the mountains', which I think is quite fitting ) she's a rogue with a heart of gold, most important things to her are honor and family (and gold ) The surface world fascinates her, though it also seems very daunting to her I've yet to decide on the specializations I'm going to give her
Parvati: what's shapin'? so...they asked me to write down my journal or whatever... but err, I can't read...*shows journal full of badly drawn doodles instead* what's it say? Leske: don't look at me salrokka, I can't read either...or understand your doodles
anyway, Beraht wants us to deal with some cloudgazer, so let's get goin' Parvati: buh...fine...but if he so much as makes another stupid comment about me or my sister I'm feeding him his own eyeballs! Leske: *sighs while patting her shoulder* keep dreaming salrokka, let's go
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Post by close2myheart on Nov 4, 2018 1:20:42 GMT
Omg your dwarf, she so pretty 😆
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Games: Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition
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bardox
Mass Effect Trilogy, Dragon Age: Origins, Dragon Age 2, Dragon Age Inquisition
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Post by bardox on Nov 4, 2018 5:56:13 GMT
Just started up my Casteless girl Please meet Parvati Brosca (funnily enough some sites say that Parvati means 'daughter of the mountains', which I think is quite fitting ) she's a rogue with a heart of gold, most important things to her are honor and family (and gold ) The surface world fascinates her, though it also seems very daunting to her I've yet to decide on the specializations I'm going to give her
Parvati: what's shapin'? so...they asked me to write down my journal or whatever... but err, I can't read...*shows journal full of badly drawn doodles instead* what's it say? Leske: don't look at me salrokka, I can't read either...or understand your doodles
anyway, Beraht wants us to deal with some cloudgazer, so let's get goin' Parvati: buh...fine...but if he so much as makes another stupid comment about me or my sister I'm feeding him his own eyeballs! Leske: *sighs while patting her shoulder* keep dreaming salrokka, let's go Each time I play a dwarf, I can't help but wonder what would race through their head the first time they step outside... Your whole life has been underground. Even if you were to enter an area with a vaulted ceiling, there was still a ceiling. If you fired a arrow up, it would hit something... then one day you are outside.. no ceiling... no walls... no smell of sulfur (thinking rotting garbage)… just vast open spaces, cool air, and a blinding ball of light high over head. The way your mind conceives of the world would be torn apart.
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