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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 20, 2016 19:57:06 GMT
Morrigan can do hebalism. click on her, if she doesn't have the Herbalism leaf in her quickbar, open her skills and click on it. You will see what recipes you know, if you have the ingredients, just click on it to make it. The same goes for a rogue and trap making. And you yourself for making potions. Go to the Tavern in Lothering and get Leliana. She will also be able to talk to the Revered Mother for you. Thank you. I have herbalism on my character, so I do not need Morrigan. I did not find a tavern on Lothering, I will go right away, so I can finally dump Morrigan! EDIT: And got it! No time for anything till tonight, but what a relief! Yay!!!! It depends on what team composition you're comfortable with. Personally, I always liked having two mages, one warrior and one rogue. Also, remember with your Warden, you have other skills beside herbalism to develop. You have persuasion/coercison which only the PC has. You may want to develop the herbalism skill with Morrigan while the PC develops coercison and possibly other skills. (I gave my mage PC one block in the Poison skill set so she could use grenades if the rogue is knocked off.) Plus, Morrigan is a character you love to hate. She's annoying but fun to listen to all at the same time!
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 20, 2016 20:04:45 GMT
Oh wow. the whole thing just went haywire for the first time. After the fight with Cory and the rescue, the cutscene to Skyhold totally failed. I get a white screen. I can get my char to swing the sword because I can hear the sounds but the game just hang there. I think one of the mods is causing the glitch. I just cleaned up some mods and it's still happening. I think I know which one is glitching the whole thing out. Going to find out. P.S. I tried a few times, getting annoyed each time it failed. Then I sit back and considered the mods. The old set I used worked because the previous PT went off without a hitch. Clearly, some of the newer ones are causing problems so I removed a few. The one on more fade touch mat has been throwing up a sort of error msg so I removed that one too. The cutscene went through. * Guess what armor I chose for Skyhold? That isn't the armor you find in the Highland Ravager zone that has -50 fire resistance, is it?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 20:08:59 GMT
Thank you. I have herbalism on my character, so I do not need Morrigan. I did not find a tavern on Lothering, I will go right away, so I can finally dump Morrigan! EDIT: And got it! No time for anything till tonight, but what a relief! Yay!!!! It depends on what team composition you're comfortable with. Personally, I always liked having two mages, one warrior and one rogue. Also, remember with your Warden, you have other skills beside herbalism to develop. You have persuasion/coercison which only the PC has. You may want to develop the herbalism skill with Morrigan while the PC develops coercison and possibly other skills. (I gave my mage PC one block in the Poison skill set so she could use grenades if the rogue is knocked off.) Plus, Morrigan is a character you love to hate. She's annoying but fun to listen to all at the same time! I'll stick to two melee, two ranged, keep Alistair, and decide between Leliana/Zevron guy & between Sten and Oghren when I encounter them. I am playing on Normal, so I can skip characters that I do not like, and will prefer party that is of the same alignment/likes the same things in convos. Good point about persuasion, I don't remember if I saw it/invested in it so far, but I will take a look next time I am leveling up.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 20, 2016 20:14:13 GMT
Meh... not really Mass Effect in terms of companions so far. Morrigan is just horrible, mean and snappy, and dumb to boot. Her "edgy" idea was to go assassinate a prince. Yep, that's right. Walk right through army and bodyguards and assassinate a prince. What an idiot. I guess it's because she is a romantic interest for a male PC, by some reason a lot of them are complete and utter.... Asked her an innocent question, she called my character stupid and dropped 10 influence; felt like telling her to take a hike right there and then; but of course she is plot-important, because, again, she is a romantic interest for a male PC.... Not talking to the hussy any more, waiting to drop her for literally anyone else. Wasted a bunch of time trying to talk a priestess to free Stan or see if there is an option that pens up to go investigate the farm murders or something. Nothing came up. Not sure what I am supposed to do with herbalism either, as no character in the game bothered to give me any run through crafting in the game yet, or point out the workbench or craftsman who do orders for you, or whatever the game uses... oh well.... Going to try to do another sidequest or two, and if I don't get a companion to rotate out Morrigan, I think I am just going to go back to ME. I don't want to fixate on Morrigan, but she keeps interjecting all the time too. You probably figured it out already, but once you add Leliana to your companions, she's useful in helping persuade the priestess to free Sten. Yes, he is guilty; he admits it but wants to atone for what he has done. You will find out later what prompted the crime if you are able to win his approval. I wouldn't give up entirely on Morrigan; she can become a powerful asset. I would develop her cold abilities while having a second mage develop fire abilities in case an enemy has resistance to one or the other.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2016 20:16:51 GMT
Meh... not really Mass Effect in terms of companions so far. Morrigan is just horrible, mean and snappy, and dumb to boot. Her "edgy" idea was to go assassinate a prince. Yep, that's right. Walk right through army and bodyguards and assassinate a prince. What an idiot. I guess it's because she is a romantic interest for a male PC, by some reason a lot of them are complete and utter.... Asked her an innocent question, she called my character stupid and dropped 10 influence; felt like telling her to take a hike right there and then; but of course she is plot-important, because, again, she is a romantic interest for a male PC.... Not talking to the hussy any more, waiting to drop her for literally anyone else. Wasted a bunch of time trying to talk a priestess to free Stan or see if there is an option that pens up to go investigate the farm murders or something. Nothing came up. Not sure what I am supposed to do with herbalism either, as no character in the game bothered to give me any run through crafting in the game yet, or point out the workbench or craftsman who do orders for you, or whatever the game uses... oh well.... Going to try to do another sidequest or two, and if I don't get a companion to rotate out Morrigan, I think I am just going to go back to ME. I don't want to fixate on Morrigan, but she keeps interjecting all the time too. You probably figured it out already, but once you add Leliana to your companions, she's useful in helping persuade the priestess to free Sten. Yes, he is guilty; he admits it but wants to atone for what he has done. You will find out later what prompted the crime if you are able to win his approval. I wouldn't give up entirely on Morrigan; she can become a powerful asset. I would develop her cold abilities while having a second mage develop fire abilities in case an enemy has resistance to one or the other. She can be one-shot-kill-bosses for all I care. And I still would want my game as Morrigan-free as Bio lets me have it.
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Post by phoray on Dec 20, 2016 21:08:14 GMT
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Then as soon as you get to camp, just straight up ask her to leave. She'll leave in a tiff. I did it one play through with a Dalish elf that didn't like the reek of her dark magic after losing his friend Tamlen.
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Post by phoray on Dec 20, 2016 21:19:57 GMT
What did I do today in DAI? Talked to Varric, got 3 scenes in a row to get to the one about the book. And then because walking directly over to Cass with the book he just told me he'd be working on would break my immersion, I left Varric behind to "work on it" and took Blackwall, Cass, and Cole to the Storm Coast to do Darkspawn killing and Grey Warden artifact finding. Cass was thanking him for joining the Inquisition, laying it on pretty thick that Blackwall is a Grey Warden. Blackwall's responses were interesting considering what I know now about him now. Then, because the Storm Coast mission log had nothing but a couple rifts on it (which I don't plan on closing all of this PT) I left the Storm Coast to go get my Cass book scene. Which was disappointing, because it changed in no way for a romancing Quiz. bah. So then I made a few rounds around Skyhold. Talked to Jose about her worrying about her richness not being as rich as it should be. I swear, this, and her response to the Red Crossing WT mission really bring down her character a peg for me. I honestly can't see her with anyone but a noble. She is otherwise a wonderful pretty woman. Varric, Lel, Dorian, Viv, didn't have much more to say. But concerning Viv, I kinda like her hating my Quiz, moving his furniture, so I'm not going to do her personal quests either. Then Solas, who friggen adores my Inky hardcore- already got the balcony scene where he tells the Quiz he respects them and I haven't done Adamant or Winter Palace or taken him anywhere for extra points, like for measuring the veil or anything. I find this funny; the pacing of his scenes have been so fast for this Quiz; I don't even think he's going to like the Inky I intend to romance him with as much as he seems to like Ghi'ral. Talked a bit with Iron Bull about the Qun Re educators- still creepy, that. Checked in on the Sutherland Group- 3 of them there now, that's good, never gotten that far. Cole is up to mischeif around Skyhold, that adorable spirit boy! And of course Sera, who I like more and more each play through. Asked her about Cass, to check my romance progress, but it didn't seem to indicate a romance was happening. Even after the greatly approve book scene. Why won't you love Ghi'ral, Cass? So, I dunno. Does that romance not progress any further until you do one of the big story missions? If I were a female elf romancing Solas, we'd have tongued each other twice by now.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 20, 2016 21:39:03 GMT
From the Diary of Kara Trevelyan: So, the Tevinter Imperium did not destroy the Elves? Almost made me want to bring along Solas, wonder what he would have thought about this whole incident. But, glad I bought Dorian in a way. Also, Abellas claims my magic of the Mark is 'familiar'. It is...interesting, all things considered and what Solas said about the Mark way back when we first met. But...it was a tragedy. Another tragedy I have experienced. I did not want to kill them. Did not want to fight those ancient Elves, but they left me no choice. I had to kill them. Or Morrigan had to kill Abelas...suppose it worked in the end.
What I also did not anticipate was having to take on the knowledge of the Well. I did not want to. I begged Morrigan that perhaps it deserved to be destroyed or just left, but she disagreed...and I suppose she is right. But she was way too eager. She saw only the end result of using the power and didn't consider the ramifications. She did not respect the power, or fear it, even after acknowledging my point of how dangerous it is. So I had to take it. I may not understand it, but I respect the power.
Maker help us all... Its kind of funny. Actually. Because I tried and put some of the reversals in Kara's personal narrative that perhaps the writers should have in the actual game. For every triumph, a bit of tragedy. This is something that really works well for here, and I did not realize it before. After her success at Adamant and her getting the Orlesian Government to knock down her a peg. After all she did not, nor does she ever, do the trials, so she is forced to wipe out the Elves. All of them. And then is quite pissed that Morrigan killed Abelas, the decision was hers after all. So yeah she won, and she got Calpernia to withdraw, but she is not exactly happy about the outcome, a compromised victory. On a personal note looks like I am going to have a lot more time to play video games in the future. Last month I was involved in a car accident, and despite getting a more or less clean bill of health from my Doctor...what think is a slight restriction, my job is sitll not taking me back. So yey more game time maybe? Boo less money.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 20, 2016 23:15:25 GMT
What did I do today in DAI? Talked to Varric, got 3 scenes in a row to get to the one about the book. And then because walking directly over to Cass with the book he just told me he'd be working on would break my immersion, I left Varric behind to "work on it" and took Blackwall, Cass, and Cole to the Storm Coast to do Darkspawn killing and Grey Warden artifact finding. Cass was thanking him for joining the Inquisition, laying it on pretty thick that Blackwall is a Grey Warden. Blackwall's responses were interesting considering what I know now about him now.
Then, because the Storm Coast mission log had nothing but a couple rifts on it (which I don't plan on closing all of this PT) I left the Storm Coast to go get my Cass book scene. Which was disappointing, because it changed in no way for a romancing Quiz. bah. So then I made a few rounds around Skyhold. Talked to Jose about her worrying about her richness not being as rich as it should be. I swear, this, and her response to the Red Crossing WT mission really bring down her character a peg for me. I honestly can't see her with anyone but a noble. She is otherwise a wonderful pretty woman. Varric, Lel, Dorian, Viv, didn't have much more to say. But concerning Viv, I kinda like her hating my Quiz, moving his furniture, so I'm not going to do her personal quests either. Then Solas, who friggen adores my Inky hardcore- already got the balcony scene where he tells the Quiz he respects them and I haven't done Adamant or Winter Palace or taken him anywhere for extra points, like for measuring the veil or anything. I find this funny; the pacing of his scenes have been so fast for this Quiz; I don't even think he's going to like the Inky I intend to romance him with as much as he seems to like Ghi'ral. Talked a bit with Iron Bull about the Qun Re educators- still creepy, that. Checked in on the Sutherland Group- 3 of them there now, that's good, never gotten that far. Cole is up to mischeif around Skyhold, that adorable spirit boy! And of course Sera, who I like more and more each play through. Asked her about Cass, to check my romance progress, but it didn't seem to indicate a romance was happening. Even after the greatly approve book scene. Why won't you love Ghi'ral, Cass? So, I dunno. Does that romance not progress any further until you do one of the big story missions? If I were a female elf romancing Solas, we'd have tongued each other twice by now. I take care to torture Blackwall as much as possible! I, of course, take him to Crestwood to see Hawke and Stroud or whoever. There's also a great scene if you take him to the Winter Palace. Having played DAO numerous PTs, some things are obvious now. But my first DAI PT was my first DA PT period, so I was clueless about GWs and therefore nothing smelled fishy.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 20, 2016 23:25:02 GMT
From the Diary of Kara Trevelyan: So, the Tevinter Imperium did not destroy the Elves? Almost made me want to bring along Solas, wonder what he would have thought about this whole incident. But, glad I bought Dorian in a way. Also, Abellas claims my magic of the Mark is 'familiar'. It is...interesting, all things considered and what Solas said about the Mark way back when we first met. But...it was a tragedy. Another tragedy I have experienced. I did not want to kill them. Did not want to fight those ancient Elves, but they left me no choice. I had to kill them. Or Morrigan had to kill Abelas...suppose it worked in the end.
What I also did not anticipate was having to take on the knowledge of the Well. I did not want to. I begged Morrigan that perhaps it deserved to be destroyed or just left, but she disagreed...and I suppose she is right. But she was way too eager. She saw only the end result of using the power and didn't consider the ramifications. She did not respect the power, or fear it, even after acknowledging my point of how dangerous it is. So I had to take it. I may not understand it, but I respect the power.
Maker help us all... Its kind of funny. Actually. Because I tried and put some of the reversals in Kara's personal narrative that perhaps the writers should have in the actual game. For every triumph, a bit of tragedy. This is something that really works well for here, and I did not realize it before. After her success at Adamant and her getting the Orlesian Government to knock down her a peg. After all she did not, nor does she ever, do the trials, so she is forced to wipe out the Elves. All of them. And then is quite pissed that Morrigan killed Abelas, the decision was hers after all. So yeah she won, and she got Calpernia to withdraw, but she is not exactly happy about the outcome, a compromised victory. On a personal note looks like I am going to have a lot more time to play video games in the future. Last month I was involved in a car accident, and despite getting a more or less clean bill of health from my Doctor...what think is a slight restriction, my job is sitll not taking me back. So yey more game time maybe? Boo less money. Glad to hear you're okay. You can always get another job. And if you can afford taking unpaid convalescent leave until you're 100%, game time will keep you engaged.
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Post by colfoley on Dec 20, 2016 23:25:22 GMT
What did I do today in DAI? Talked to Varric, got 3 scenes in a row to get to the one about the book. And then because walking directly over to Cass with the book he just told me he'd be working on would break my immersion, I left Varric behind to "work on it" and took Blackwall, Cass, and Cole to the Storm Coast to do Darkspawn killing and Grey Warden artifact finding. Cass was thanking him for joining the Inquisition, laying it on pretty thick that Blackwall is a Grey Warden. Blackwall's responses were interesting considering what I know now about him now.
Then, because the Storm Coast mission log had nothing but a couple rifts on it (which I don't plan on closing all of this PT) I left the Storm Coast to go get my Cass book scene. Which was disappointing, because it changed in no way for a romancing Quiz. bah. So then I made a few rounds around Skyhold. Talked to Jose about her worrying about her richness not being as rich as it should be. I swear, this, and her response to the Red Crossing WT mission really bring down her character a peg for me. I honestly can't see her with anyone but a noble. She is otherwise a wonderful pretty woman. Varric, Lel, Dorian, Viv, didn't have much more to say. But concerning Viv, I kinda like her hating my Quiz, moving his furniture, so I'm not going to do her personal quests either. Then Solas, who friggen adores my Inky hardcore- already got the balcony scene where he tells the Quiz he respects them and I haven't done Adamant or Winter Palace or taken him anywhere for extra points, like for measuring the veil or anything. I find this funny; the pacing of his scenes have been so fast for this Quiz; I don't even think he's going to like the Inky I intend to romance him with as much as he seems to like Ghi'ral. Talked a bit with Iron Bull about the Qun Re educators- still creepy, that. Checked in on the Sutherland Group- 3 of them there now, that's good, never gotten that far. Cole is up to mischeif around Skyhold, that adorable spirit boy! And of course Sera, who I like more and more each play through. Asked her about Cass, to check my romance progress, but it didn't seem to indicate a romance was happening. Even after the greatly approve book scene. Why won't you love Ghi'ral, Cass? So, I dunno. Does that romance not progress any further until you do one of the big story missions? If I were a female elf romancing Solas, we'd have tongued each other twice by now. I take care to torture Blackwall as much as possible! I, of course, take him to Crestwood to see Hawke and Stroud or whoever. There's also a great scene if you take him to the Winter Palace. Having played DAO numerous PTs, some things are obvious now. But my first DAI PT was my first DA PT period, so I was clueless about GWs and therefore nothing smelled fishy. Since you started with inquisition...what is your favorite Dragon Age game?
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Post by colfoley on Dec 20, 2016 23:27:35 GMT
From the Diary of Kara Trevelyan: So, the Tevinter Imperium did not destroy the Elves? Almost made me want to bring along Solas, wonder what he would have thought about this whole incident. But, glad I bought Dorian in a way. Also, Abellas claims my magic of the Mark is 'familiar'. It is...interesting, all things considered and what Solas said about the Mark way back when we first met. But...it was a tragedy. Another tragedy I have experienced. I did not want to kill them. Did not want to fight those ancient Elves, but they left me no choice. I had to kill them. Or Morrigan had to kill Abelas...suppose it worked in the end.
What I also did not anticipate was having to take on the knowledge of the Well. I did not want to. I begged Morrigan that perhaps it deserved to be destroyed or just left, but she disagreed...and I suppose she is right. But she was way too eager. She saw only the end result of using the power and didn't consider the ramifications. She did not respect the power, or fear it, even after acknowledging my point of how dangerous it is. So I had to take it. I may not understand it, but I respect the power.
Maker help us all... Its kind of funny. Actually. Because I tried and put some of the reversals in Kara's personal narrative that perhaps the writers should have in the actual game. For every triumph, a bit of tragedy. This is something that really works well for here, and I did not realize it before. After her success at Adamant and her getting the Orlesian Government to knock down her a peg. After all she did not, nor does she ever, do the trials, so she is forced to wipe out the Elves. All of them. And then is quite pissed that Morrigan killed Abelas, the decision was hers after all. So yeah she won, and she got Calpernia to withdraw, but she is not exactly happy about the outcome, a compromised victory. On a personal note looks like I am going to have a lot more time to play video games in the future. Last month I was involved in a car accident, and despite getting a more or less clean bill of health from my Doctor...what think is a slight restriction, my job is sitll not taking me back. So yey more game time maybe? Boo less money. Glad to hear you're okay. You can always get another job. And if you can afford taking unpaid convalescent leave until you're 100%, game time will keep you engaged. Oh when I am healthy that is one of the first things I intend on doing. And I am getting dissibility from my...dissbility people...but it does not equal to a full paycheck. Still have money saved up, and family, so I should be ok. Just its annoying because I do want to work actually. lol. Kind of miss it. And then on top of that though I think my next pt will be a trilogy pt of ME so I can do my 'Commander's log' thing like I have been doing with Kara and her diary.
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Post by Obsidian Gryphon on Dec 21, 2016 0:14:15 GMT
Here is the one I'm using. The default value is 400 but you can pick a different value by selecting the option in the mod manager list. It sounds like you can also pick a different value manually, but I use the non-configurable (all in one) version and just check the 1000 box. www.nexusmods.com/dragonageinquisition/mods/727/? Thanks. I'll try it out and see how it goes. That isn't the armor you find in the Highland Ravager zone that has -50 fire resistance, is it? No. It's one of a list of wearable armors fixed only for Skyhold. It's a medium Inquisition scout armor.
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Post by phoray on Dec 21, 2016 0:37:01 GMT
deadlydwarfI've now brought him twice. Are you talking about that Noble almost recognizing him?
I've now got a bit of admiring amused crush on Sutherland. I put them in the heavy army. The motely crew is very cute. Then I finally talked to Dorian about the letter from Daddy. It's such a good scene, and without subtitles to distract me, I could really just focus and sit back and enjoy. I don't think it matters if it's cliche, the emotions are very real coming through there. Then Dorian was so lovely afterwards, I just want to hug and kiss him. I have totally got to play his romance next. Otherwise, mostly using the clock trick to clear the War Table of all it's missions. Cass isn't giving me anything still, so off to Adamant. I'm certain she'll cave to Ghi'ral's charms afterwards. Regarding who to bring, Cole is so miserable being brought there, I've decided to leave his cuteness there. My other choice was Sera, but then she hates it there as well. So, tinted Blackwall to match the rest of us: Varric and Cass and I. Probably goign to keep the Wardens like I always do. Can't think of a reason for Ghi'ral not to, although I'll cringe when he points out all the drawbacks in grand speech method to the group. Oh yes. And Stroud dies again. Obviously. Fenris and Hawke will not be broken apart by death.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 21, 2016 0:46:21 GMT
I take care to torture Blackwall as much as possible! I, of course, take him to Crestwood to see Hawke and Stroud or whoever. There's also a great scene if you take him to the Winter Palace. Having played DAO numerous PTs, some things are obvious now. But my first DAI PT was my first DA PT period, so I was clueless about GWs and therefore nothing smelled fishy. Since you started with inquisition...what is your favorite Dragon Age game? All three have their virtues. I believe DAO has the most epic story of all, though the graphics are a bit dated. Inquisition certainly has better graphics, but the story is less tight and things can meander quite a bit. In Origins, you go to an area and you're faced with an easily defined dilemma you have to overcome. In Inquisition, things meander even within individual areas. What's the main conflict in Exalted Plain for example? Every area has rifts and I suppose you can say that results in anarchy, hence no easily defined, single unifying plot. Serious role-playing can overcome that to some degree and I've begun to enjoy Inquisition again because I've finally begun doing that in a more coherent manner. (Note Dragon Age is my first RPG series. Previously, my gaming focused on Call of Duty and Tomb Raider -- interactive stories rather than RPGs.) And speaking of interactive stories, that's the problem with DA2. Think of what Cory says to Hawke in the Fade: Did anything you do ever really matter? Truth be told, Cory was right! None of Hawke's choices ultimately matter. You can't prevent conflict with the Qunari or between mages and Templars no matter what you do. Even if you have serious concerns about Anders, there's no preventing what happens in the end. You can't even save your Mother! It's basically an interactive story. It's fun, but Act 3 is really screwy. You have to chose between helping Orsino or Meredith. Either way, you end up chasing down and killing a group of mages and Templars who are working together. Isn't this the kind of alliance you should support?
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Post by Catilina on Dec 21, 2016 1:00:35 GMT
Since you started with inquisition...what is your favorite Dragon Age game? All three have their virtues. I believe DAO has the most epic story of all, though the graphics are a bit dated. Inquisition certainly has better graphics, but the story is less tight and things can meander quite a bit. In Origins, you go to an area and you're faced with an easily defined dilemma you have to overcome. In Inquisition, things meander even within individual areas. What's the main conflict in Exalted Plain for example? Every area has rifts and I suppose you can say that results in anarchy, hence no easily defined, single unifying plot. Serious role-playing can overcome that to some degree and I've begun to enjoy Inquisition again because I've finally begun doing that in a more coherent manner. (Note Dragon Age is my first RPG series. Previously, my gaming focused on Call of Duty and Tomb Raider -- interactive stories rather than RPGs.) And speaking of interactive stories, that's the problem with DA2. Think of what Cory says to Hawke in the Fade: Did anything you do ever really matter? Truth be told, Cory was right! None of Hawke's choices ultimately matter. You can't prevent conflict with the Qunari or between mages and Templars no matter what you do. Even if you have serious concerns about Anders, there's no preventing what happens in the end. You can't even save your Mother! It's basically an interactive story. It's fun, but Act 3 is really screwy. You have to chose between helping Orsino or Meredith. Either way, you end up chasing down and killing a group of mages and Templars who are working together. Isn't this the kind of alliance you should support?
But it matter what s/he did for his/her friends. Just like in the real world. This is a familiar RPG, with a local hero, who can't save even his/her family. Yes! Alliance between slaves and their masters! Let's support, I'm in!
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Post by colfoley on Dec 21, 2016 1:19:04 GMT
Since you started with inquisition...what is your favorite Dragon Age game? All three have their virtues. I believe DAO has the most epic story of all, though the graphics are a bit dated. Inquisition certainly has better graphics, but the story is less tight and things can meander quite a bit. In Origins, you go to an area and you're faced with an easily defined dilemma you have to overcome. In Inquisition, things meander even within individual areas. What's the main conflict in Exalted Plain for example? Every area has rifts and I suppose you can say that results in anarchy, hence no easily defined, single unifying plot. Serious role-playing can overcome that to some degree and I've begun to enjoy Inquisition again because I've finally begun doing that in a more coherent manner. (Note Dragon Age is my first RPG series. Previously, my gaming focused on Call of Duty and Tomb Raider -- interactive stories rather than RPGs.) And speaking of interactive stories, that's the problem with DA2. Think of what Cory says to Hawke in the Fade: Did anything you do ever really matter? Truth be told, Cory was right! None of Hawke's choices ultimately matter. You can't prevent conflict with the Qunari or between mages and Templars no matter what you do. Even if you have serious concerns about Anders, there's no preventing what happens in the end. You can't even save your Mother! It's basically an interactive story. It's fun, but Act 3 is really screwy. You have to chose between helping Orsino or Meredith. Either way, you end up chasing down and killing a group of mages and Templars who are working together. Isn't this the kind of alliance you should support? Well the conflict was between the forces of gaspard and celene to get the throne. But I agree with you. The best thing about Origins was that each map you went to you had a story reason for being there. It was a part of the main plot. Thus the rest of the game's side quests flowed from there. And you are also right, headcannoning your way around the DA universe in Inquisition really enhances the experience. Hence every time I do the game I always take the Griffon Wing Keep first in order to set up a staging area for the assault on Adamant, for instance.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 21, 2016 1:24:36 GMT
deadlydwarf I've now brought him twice. Are you talking about that Noble almost recognizing him?
I've now got a bit of admiring amused crush on Sutherland. I put them in the heavy army. The motely crew is very cute. Then I finally talked to Dorian about the letter from Daddy. It's such a good scene, and without subtitles to distract me, I could really just focus and sit back and enjoy. I don't think it matters if it's cliche, the emotions are very real coming through there. Then Dorian was so lovely afterwards, I just want to hug and kiss him. I have totally got to play his romance next. Otherwise, mostly using the clock trick to clear the War Table of all it's missions. Cass isn't giving me anything still, so off to Adamant. I'm certain she'll cave to Ghi'ral's charms afterwards. Regarding who to bring, Cole is so miserable being brought there, I've decided to leave his cuteness there. My other choice was Sera, but then she hates it there as well. So, tinted Blackwall to match the rest of us: Varric and Cass and I.
Probably goign to keep the Wardens like I always do. Can't think of a reason for Ghi'ral not to, although I'll cringe when he points out all the drawbacks in grand speech method to the group. Oh yes. And Stroud dies again. Obviously. Fenris and Hawke will not be broken apart by death. Yes, the noble scene. And Blackwall in the Fade is also good! Not to mention trying to get him to rally the Wardens at Adamant. (It's a pity none of the other Wardens - including Stroud - ever react to him in any way.)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 2:32:44 GMT
I just finished DA:2 with a pro mage, snarky male Hawke who fell for Merrill's brand of sweet crazy. Everyone lived but Fenris. Couldn't get his rivalry up enough.Oh well, the Keep believes a different tale. Funny how so many nobles wanted Hawke to be viscount, even Aveline wanted Hawke to get more involved and get a title. If he was viscount this would be him for most of it, in fact its him now.
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Post by Catilina on Dec 21, 2016 2:42:32 GMT
I just finished DA:2 with a pro mage, snarky male Hawke who fell for Merrill's brand of sweet crazy. Everyone lived but Fenris. Couldn't get his rivalry up enough.Oh well, the Keep believes a different tale. Funny how so many nobles wanted Hawke to be viscount, even Aveline wanted Hawke to get more involved and get a title. If he was viscount this would be him for most of it, in fact its him now. Pfft. I always say, that the friendship path with him easier, even with pro-mage... poor Fenris! I had some problems with Isabela at first playthroughs.
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Post by melbella on Dec 21, 2016 4:30:34 GMT
Bruenor is just about ready to assault the fortress in Frostback Basin. Found Storvacker while lighting all the beacons, then ran around (translation: fast-traveled) everywhere to finish up the last few side quests. Recruited both the conspiracy theorist and Sigrid. Kinda tired tonight so I'll leave the raid for tomorrow.
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Post by phoray on Dec 21, 2016 5:02:31 GMT
I decided to call it a day right as the siege of Andamant could have been started. See, I decided earlier today that the half XP and even ground trials weren't enough, so added the one that makes bad guys have extra powers. Everything went great until Griffin's Keep. Wiped out. And again. And thrice more. I didn't get it, kept thinking I just hadn't been paying enough attention, his barrier just never seemed to go less than half. Anyway, somewhere in there I noticed he was immune to fire ad sensitive to ice. So. I re spec to have like one ice spell instead of my fire spell and look at what Knight Enchanter has..still wiped. This took an hour, probably.
So then I'm like...fine. turn that extra trial off. He dies in less than 3 minutes.
Well. That was lame.
So I reload, put the trial back on and think.
in the end I decided Varric needed to go, because I needed another barrier flinging mage. Solas came in. made sure he had ice stuff.
And after a 10-15 minute fight he died. That's better.
And with the feeling of victory in my heart, I approached Rylen and tried to see why anyone would want to date him. He has a tattoo, a stark Haven accent, and he made one funny joke about smiting ashes. I guess.
Griffon Keep is pretty neat, now that I had to work hard for it. A bit of a watered down Skyhold feel. I got Cole his kitty collar and someone on here has said multiple times that the Keep makes war sense to have before the attack on Adamant
Then went to meet Erimund. He's just so evil. Can't wait to chop his head. Then what... Back to Skyhold to do a round around the companions. Solas rant makes better sense before rather than after Adamant siege. Sutherland and Co are adorable in the Tavern. And Cass liked me enough to tell me about her Seeker concerns, so that is a good sign! But RP wise, kinda gonna have to put that on hold, Darling, till after the big siege.
In the morning, we March!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2016 5:25:15 GMT
Apparently, my character was called Quinly, my go-to name back then, like my NWN2 and SWTOR first char. Good times....
I finished all the Noticeboard sidequests in L-village, doing excting stuff like killing wildlife and bringing back tokens from dead bodies. Baldur's gate 3 style... Leliana put a word in, so we got Sten, weeeee! Finally, left the bucolic village behind, got intro into campfire, tried for a round of compconvos. Sten's was hilarious, sort of reminded me Shepard Book and Mal's dialogue about Book's past. Leliana is surprisingly pleasant. Kept the bonding going with Alistair, I think I am going to enjoy his romance. Morrigan provided me with some info on Flemeth, then I told her to pack up and go. Brought the rest of the crew to Redcliff, and had another cute chat with Alistair. And, that's it for today.
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Post by deadlydwarf on Dec 21, 2016 8:18:10 GMT
All three have their virtues. I believe DAO has the most epic story of all, though the graphics are a bit dated. Inquisition certainly has better graphics, but the story is less tight and things can meander quite a bit. In Origins, you go to an area and you're faced with an easily defined dilemma you have to overcome. In Inquisition, things meander even within individual areas. What's the main conflict in Exalted Plain for example? Every area has rifts and I suppose you can say that results in anarchy, hence no easily defined, single unifying plot. Serious role-playing can overcome that to some degree and I've begun to enjoy Inquisition again because I've finally begun doing that in a more coherent manner. (Note Dragon Age is my first RPG series. Previously, my gaming focused on Call of Duty and Tomb Raider -- interactive stories rather than RPGs.) And speaking of interactive stories, that's the problem with DA2. Think of what Cory says to Hawke in the Fade: Did anything you do ever really matter? Truth be told, Cory was right! None of Hawke's choices ultimately matter. You can't prevent conflict with the Qunari or between mages and Templars no matter what you do. Even if you have serious concerns about Anders, there's no preventing what happens in the end. You can't even save your Mother! It's basically an interactive story. It's fun, but Act 3 is really screwy. You have to chose between helping Orsino or Meredith. Either way, you end up chasing down and killing a group of mages and Templars who are working together. Isn't this the kind of alliance you should support?
Regarding the mage/Templar alliance, my understanding was that the Templars in this group were sympathetic towards the mages and hostile towards Meredith and the more hardline Templars. This is what a pro-mage Hawke should've wanted.
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Post by olnorton on Dec 21, 2016 8:54:04 GMT
So in the camp, I run into Daveth. He was unsuccessfully trying to pick up a female soldier. He said he didn't think I'd be a Elf. Ser Jory said the same thing. I suppose it's not surprising that Elves don't join the Wardens, given we aren't allowed to carry weapons. Anyway, Duncan sent us off into the Wilds to get some darkspawn blood for our joining ritual, and recover some old treaties. The blood was no problem, it was everywhere, but when we got to the chest with the treaties, they were gone. Just then a beautiful young girl appeared behind us. i.imgur.com/hBMDtn8.jpgAlister accused her of being some kind of sneaky witchthief i.imgur.com/UvvYmDf.jpgDaveth thought she was the Witch of the Wilds. i.imgur.com/dMx6S9d.jpgI'd heard tales of old crones who made themselves look like young women, to lure men in and have their evil way with them. But you've go to die of something I suppose, so we went with her to see her mother. Who was a bit eccentric, maybe even crazy, but she did return our treaties. i.imgur.com/SBEqGpm.jpgThen Duncan explained how the joining was sometimes fatal i.imgur.com/Tc6tCxe.jpgAnd after Daveth died, Ser Jory wanted to call it off. i.imgur.com/7Rkluia.jpgDuncan said all bets are final, and killed him, so then it was my turn. He handed me the poisoned challis. i.imgur.com/uclchYQ.jpgI thought I was going to be sick, then I blacked out and dreamt of dragons. When I came to, Duncan said the King wanted me to be at a war meeting. i.imgur.com/NunN9Ay.jpgThe King gave Alister and I a crucial part in the plan. Teyrn Loghain and his army would be stationed out of sight of the battlefield, so he needed us to light a signal fire on Duncan's signal. Anyone could light a fire, I think he thought an Elf wasn't up to the fighting, and wanted to keep me out of it. i.imgur.com/fnewquR.jpgWell that didn't work. The tower was overrun with darkspawn. An archer and a mage joined us in a fight to the top. One thing mother never told me, if your with a mage and he sets your weapons on fire, don't stick them near your ears. i.imgur.com/7VbIo2Z.jpgWe made it to the top and only had to kill this thing, to light the beacon. i.imgur.com/vzuRMUO.jpg I remember lighting the beacon, and then being overwhelmed. Next thing I know, I'm lying naked on a bed, and the girl from the Wilds is leaning over me. I knew I was awake, because she wasn't naked, just I was. Not that her top left much to the imagination. i.imgur.com/luvbCSJ.jpgI think she said her mother had turned into a giant bird, and plucked us from the top of the tower, but i was still pretty groggy, and must have been there for some time, as my hair had grown longer as I'd lay there. I pulled it into a ponytail like Duncan wore. I think it makes me look more Grey Wardenish. Her mother said we would need Morrigan's help, and should take her with us. I was all for it, Alister... not so much. i.imgur.com/EqzmjxI.jpgWe did away with a few bandits on the outskirts of Lothering, and then run into some of Loghain's men in the tavern. They claimed the Grey Wardens had killed the King, and just as the fighting was about to commence, a Chantry sister stepped in and tried to defuse the situation. i.imgur.com/ppituow.jpgWhen that didn't work, she said she could fight, and asked to join with us. Like I was going to say no to that face. i.imgur.com/f7hCrMy.jpgShe wasn't lying about knowing how to fight. i.imgur.com/NmFCXGp.jpgWe killed a few darkspawn on the highway out of town. i.imgur.com/ZOdQQyM.jpgTo the relief of this dwarf and his young son. I told them they could tag along. i.imgur.com/86OkKrH.jpgThen at camp, I had that dragon nightmare again. Alister said it's a Grey Warden thing. i.imgur.com/OUO8Fk9.jpgSister Leliana told me of her vision, in which the Maker sent her to aid us. i.imgur.com/AINar1K.jpgThen she told me of the many lovely young initiates at the Lothering Chantry. i.imgur.com/FWBfVHu.jpgAh' I thought I had seen her staring at Morrigan's breasts, there goes that idea, what a waste.
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