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Post by flyingsquirrel on Oct 11, 2023 16:06:10 GMT
I just got to the Well of Sorrows yesterday with my Dalish warrior Inquisitor and played through both letting Morrigan drink and having Ellana Lavellan drink, then did a separate save after each. I'm still debating which one to use. While I'm playing Ellana as a believer in the elven gods who will tell anyone asking that she is *not* the Herald of Andraste, I also figure some of her perspectives and priorities are evolving as she interacts more with people from outside the Dales, such that learning the truth about elven history or recovering what was lost may not be at the top of her agenda any more.
In favor of letting Morrigan drink, all three of the present companions (Cassandra, Cole, and Solas) expressed serious reservations about Ellana doing it, with Cole warning of many voices in the head of whoever does it. Ellana understands that the Inquisition has become very important to the world at large, and so potentially sacrificing her own free will to whoever or whatever Mythal may be could cause serious problems down the road. Morrigan does seem like she's prepared to take the risk, and as a mage, she probably is well-prepared to resist any negative influences from the Well. And if the whole thing does somehow go south, restraining a rogue, Mythal-controlled Morrigan might still be easier than restraining a rogue, Mythal-controlled Inquisitor.
In favor of Ellana drinking, neither I as player nor Ellana as a character find Morrigan entirely trustworthy, and at the same time Ellana isn't sure she can ask someone else to take this risk even if Morrigan is volunteering. Morrigan seems to kind of shrug off the possibility of mind control and appears to think that Mythal is either entirely fictional or is at least less powerful than elven lore would suggest. My previous two human Inquisitors assumed the same, but Ellana takes the possibility of a still-extant and powerful Mythal much more seriously. So for her, it's an open question who would be better equipped to resist being mind-controlled - Morrigan with her experience as a mage, or herself with her knowledge of elven history and belief in Mythal (and her friends and advisors who could potentially stop her if she got out of control).
Did anyone else play a Dalish Inquisitor and find this choice perplexing? I'm also indecisive because I think Ellana might be my favorite of my Inquisitors so far, and from a metagaming perspective, I don't want to make a choice that will turn her into a villain when Dreadwolf comes along. Has BW said much about what, if any, role the Inquisitor will play in Dreadwolf?
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Oct 18, 2023 14:54:17 GMT
So did I miss something in the acquisition for Jaws of Hakkon, or are we really only going to the Frostback Basin because there might be information about the former Inquisitor? I understand that the Jaws will later be revealed to be planning an invasion, but without that knowledge, I don't think I would want Inquisition soldiers engaging them in combat right off the bat. It's not the Inquisition's land, and my Inquisitor isn't trying to annex territory or set up a new permanent body politic in Orlais or Ferelden. I know there are always mooks in action RPGs, but it seems like there's a good argument that the Jaws would be justified in deciding that the Inquisition isn't welcome there.
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Post by sjsharp2010 on Oct 18, 2023 17:51:10 GMT
So did I miss something in the acquisition for Jaws of Hakkon, or are we really only going to the Frostback Basin because there might be information about the former Inquisitor? I understand that the Jaws will later be revealed to be planning an invasion, but without that knowledge, I don't think I would want Inquisition soldiers engaging them in combat right off the bat. It's not the Inquisition's land, and my Inquisitor isn't trying to annex territory or set up a new permanent body politic in Orlais or Ferelden. I know there are always mooks in action RPGs, but it seems like there's a good argument that the Jaws would be justified in deciding that the Inquisition isn't welcome there. That was the main reason for going there I believe yes. As for the Jaws they aren' texactl ylocals either. The Stone Bear group are the only locals in the area. THe Jaws are just a group of angry Avvar that wanted to hit back because of wha thappened during the Blight back when they lived in Ferelden. Which the Inquisition had nothing t odo with but they don't care about that. That was down to the crappy leadership Ferelden was under at that time which unfotunately is another mess our Inquisitor is forced to clean up while looking for Ameridan. Also tempers could have also been amplified due to the rifts and such in the area. We do know a lot of the groups were on edge because of that as they were fighting each other whic hwas why the Inquisition was called in the first place as a means to try to restore order.
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Post by flyingsquirrel on Nov 3, 2023 15:52:11 GMT
Anyway, I just recently finished Trespasser on my Ellana Lavellan playthrough. I think I definitely have a better appreciation for the Dragon Age universe than I did before, as well as for Inquisition itself, which I used to view as far too bloated. I do still think some of the combat in DA games can get repetitive, and I purposely skipped some of the more mundane sidequests like the shard collections and the astrarium puzzles (I'd give them a shot if I came across them, but was OK with not solving it quickly and moving on). Maybe a combination of feeling more invested in the story and knowing ahead of time which sidequests were just going to be all combat helped me avoid feeling disappointed.
I found the final cutscene of Trespasser a little strange - Ellana disbanded the Inquisition and supported Cassandra to become the new Divine, but then the cutscene shows Ellana presumably back at Skyhold, with Cassandra in her default "warrior" garb, talking about what "we" should do next. And I'm thinking, "Who exactly is 'we' with the Inquisition disbanded? And Cassandra, don't you have a monumentally complex organized religion to lead?" I also thought that there should have been a scene, either in the main game or in the DLC, where Lavellan visits her old clan and is asked whether she ever intends to return to her former life. I think "my" Ellana probably wouldn't, but it's not far-fetched to think she'd consider it, especially given that the Inquisition is finished and she had done her best from Day 1 to get people to stop calling her the Herald of Andraste. I'm thinking of creating a Tapestry where the Warden and Hawke are much more "pro-establishment" than I tend to play them, i.e. more sympathetic to Templars, orthodox Chantry believers, and not necessarily all that considerate towards underdogs/outsiders such as the Dalish elves, and then do a run through Inquisition where the Inquisitor is a human who does believe that he's the Herald of Andraste, sides with the templars over the mages, and pushes for Vivienne to become the new Divine. As you can probably guess, those sorts of viewpoints are *not* my own, so I'm not sure I want to invest the time in actually playing all three games this way, but I might want to give one of them a shot and set it up as an importable world state for Dreadwolf.
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Post by Zikade on Dec 1, 2023 18:27:05 GMT
Continuing my sort of re-play. Glitches bring me joy. The Inquisitor did not let this bother him and actually became a Reaver.
"Ser, I heard there's abominations among you."
"Oh god, they are transforming. Can't train you sorry bye."
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 24, 2024 4:28:26 GMT
Well, this thread is pretty dead, but I started a new run on my PS4 Pro to finally get that stupid platinum Will play a Knight Enchanter. Will try to romance Cassandra, but it'll be hard considering I have fair weather friends turned on and I will do a lot of stuff she disagrees with. Let's see how this goes.
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Post by Psychevore on Apr 28, 2024 19:06:14 GMT
I got really into the game again, as usual. And since I'm doing everything for the platinum, I might as well take it slowly. trying to see just how high I can get my influence level before doing In Hushed Whispers. 6 is my goal, already at level 5 and picked up all the knowledge perks for dialogue and extra experience for codex entries. Of which there will be a lot in the remainder of stupidly large game. Have been keeping my intentions pretty vague in game, because fair-weathered Cassandra will DISAPPROVE all the time, and I can't have that lol edit: I slept on it and decided against trying to get to influence level 6 before moving the story forward. Mostly because I predict that will leave me with nothing to do while I wait for war table stuff to get done after In Hushed Whispers
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Post by Psychevore on May 1, 2024 21:07:28 GMT
I became a Knight-Enchanter. I have been trying out the one melee staff in the game, but I don't know if I can make it work. Have to juggle a lot of skills to be able to solo a dragon. I tried to do the same with Cassandra and I could easily solo the first dragon if I had wanted to (didn't finish the fight).
A fighter can basically do it with two skills: the shield block for guard generation and damage mitigation and Charging Bull for mobility and more guard.
Soloing a dragon with a Knight Enchanter used to be incredibly easy in early versions of the game. Also intensely boring. Don't know if I can make it work with this version, but I'll keep trying for a while.
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Post by LadyofNemesis on May 10, 2024 20:14:34 GMT
So...I'm doing that thing again where I'm pondering about my "canon" world state (this emoji is very appropriate in this case)
...Like, I love my Wardens, but I haven't got the foggiest idea which one I actually want to implement as my "canon" one
"But LadyofNemesis, you always say that and then end up going back to your favorite anyway!" I know that, that's why it's so annoying
Should I wait until we actually get a release date for Dreadwolf...probably? But I don't want to be caught by surprise like last time where I'm halfway in a playthrough and not have enough time to finish it when the new game finally drops (which is what happened to me back when Inquisition was released, I was halfway in a DA2 playthrough at the time, and abandoned it to play with the shiny new toy...we all do it, don't deny it)
Anyways...I kinda want to play a "default classes world"...but I hate playing warriors (plus especially in Origins you're swamped in warriors (Sten, Alistair, Oghren, Shale and Dog if you squint) Then there's the part where I like being able to open my own locks, and in Origins I have a mod that allows mages to kinda do the whole "Knock" spell from DnD, which is kinda cool.
So...currently debating between my Tabris...or maybe shifting focus to either Amell or Surana, since Magi is my most played and favorite Origin (and I love the Fade (don't come at me) Like, Amell has that nice tie-in with Hawke, but Surana is this really nice blank slate that I can do with whatever I want, which is also fun!
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Post by Psychevore on May 14, 2024 23:49:55 GMT
My first encounter with a dragon was rather disappointing. I slapped a guard generating material on the melee staff of my Knight Enchanter and that seems to have done the trick. He's a mage, so of course the guard isn't as strong as on a warrior, but it seems to give just that extra cussion I needed on top of that stupidly strong barrier. Special mention to Cassandra, who has been able to stay alive during every dragon fight so far with much less babysitting than I am used to. Varric and Dorian just seem to die damn near instantly, which is exactly how I remember this game, lol. Always soloed all the dragons with either 'myself', Sera, or Varric. I seem to recall they fixed the bug that enabled Sera to tear through dragons in seconds, but the Varric build that does almost the same still works. Anyway, as I intend to finally platinum the game, I cleared most of the game before moving the story along. I 'finished' (main map quest, dragon, astrariums and shards) all base game maps except the Hissing Wastes and Emprise du Lion. Made a slight mistake in Halamshiral and now Celene rules alone. It's fine, I guess. It's just another slight mistake on top of some other small ones, like moving along Here Lies the Abyss too far so now I don't get to hear Morrigan and Alistair talk. Oh well. Great excuse to play the game again, but just right this time
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