Character Creator & Character Customization (Official Thread)

I'm also "Asian" IRL, and I don't see any difference in how generic the presets look. In fact, there's a number of blonde white girls at my school, and I can never remember their names.

The reason I brought up Shepard and DA is that there's more to "being Asian" than just squinty eyes and high cheek bones, which is what the CC in those games seemed to interpret as "how to make an Asian."

So I've seen about an hour of the game and really, CC is absolutely the WORST part of it.


I literally love everything else, story, characters.


But wow,...HOW just how do they miss the CC.

For me CC is very important, so I spent almost 1 hour from the 10 to make the best looking Ryder.  This is what I want to see in the next 100 game hours:

If Alec is only based on what preset we use Bioware should just let ut choose which to go with instead (sure it could be considered a minor spoiler letting us know that our father is in the game, but that info is also all over the marketing material). I've shared my latest sis Ryder (see top of previous page) and I went with default Scott. Here's the father:


He looks cool and all, but I can't really see any family resemblance.

I think I'm gonna have to remake my Ryder. It's not her that's the problem, it's her dad. He looks nothing like her... and it's driving me crazy. I probably chose the wrong preset? (don't remember which one I chose tho)

First, let me say thank you for all the hard work that the BioWare team has put into this game. I really appreciate the fresh perspective. With that being said, I have a few constructive criticisms to share. I hope that this gets read and taken into consideration.

For me, many things can be brushed aside, from certain questionable facial animations to other, humorous, game-play bugs. These things can be overlooked and don’t generally ruin much for me, as a player. The one thing I cannot let slide is the character creation system. The face of a game protagonist, especially those that can be customized, is the very heart and soul of connecting a player to said character, and by extension, the game itself.

For a game company that promotes heavy customization and player choice for several aspects of this particular game, I cannot fathom why it was decided to make the facial creation system so elementary. If it was known that using facial scans was going to severely hamper the options and diversity of facial creation, it should have been abandoned.

Don’t get me wrong, the entirety of the creator is not quite an abomination. There are a couple features that are adequate. The hair looks much better than previous games, although styles are still somewhat finite. Adding non-natural color hues was a nice touch, for those that want them. The mechanic that allows for the iris to be two-toned is also lovely. The addition of tattoos is most welcomed.

Herein lies the problem: One can choose from a number of preset faces. This is fine. What is not fine, is the simple fact that we were not given the option to choose the shape of facial features for the preset faces. We are unable to choose the shape of eyebrows, eyes, nose, nor mouth. Choosing specific shapes and then tweaking them further is the very core of creating a face that we connect to. Having sliders to only adjust placement of height, width, and depth of certain features is mind boggling. What will result are innumerable Ryders that may vary to some degree, but at the end of the day will remain quite similar in appearance. Cookie cutter characters are not what we signed up for.

This needs addressed and it needs addressed in a timely fashion. It needs to be introduced in a way that does not make one completely start the game from the beginning when it is introduced. For example, if a player has 90 hours in the game, they will not want to start over to create a face that they really wanted from the beginning. That is unacceptable and unfair to ask of any player.

I have a suggestion [hopefully it is within the realm of possibilities]. Revamp the character creator and introduce it in a way that the player can access it in game and not lose progress, only change appearance. Something akin to Fallout 4’s plastic surgeon or Inquisition’s “The Black Emporium” via a Nexus or hub area shop, Tempest upgrade, hell, even by way of an unsavory character performing experimental procedures in a dimly lit cave, off a beaten path— get this feature in, and get it in as soon as possible. It will please the masses immeasurably and remove the bitter taste from their mouths.

Improvements needed:

MOST IMPORTANTLY: Option to choose eyebrow, eye, nose and mouth shape, and then be able to tweak it further via more sliders.
Previously mentioned sliders include:

Brow thickness, tilt, & color
Eye size, depth, tilt
Nose bridge height & tip adjustment
Mouth fullness, corner tilt, width, over/underbite


Skin complexion
Range of ages, more varied skin tones, more believable scars, less shiny- it looks lubed up with petroleum jelly lol.

Makeup [more natural options]
“traditional” eyeliner, lipstick, & blush options, not more abstract options like digital camouflage lipsticks, Clockwork Orange eyeliners, or Imperator Furiosa eyeshadow et cetera

Tattoos [love that this was added, but the options are underwhelming]
Take notes from Dragon Age or Skyrim. Make them more interesting and robust. The pixalated stuff around the eyes and face midline is strange and out of place, even if set in the future. Give option to be on both sides, as well as only left or right side.

Hair [Hair is looks/moves nicely, but need more styles.]
Allow both genders access to all hairstyles
Mohawks & fauxhawks would be nice
Really cool braided styles [think Lagertha or Ragnar, from Vikings]
Half shaved or sides buzzed with longer top
A few highlights, lowlights, or more depth in general [ie not so flat]

If only one section of the above list can be improved upon, please choose to introduce facial feature shape choice.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I look forward to playing the game in its entirety, hopefully with a Ryder that is as aesthetically pleasing to me as possible.

But the gag is... he looks even less like the Scott preset I chose 

But thank you hector535, that helps clear some things up. I feel like the Alec presets should be switched for Ryder Head 5 and 9 

This is just it. We now have high quality presets, you can actually make them look like people you know, it's kind of eery. We have hair that moves with strands and wonderful texturing. We have real discernable ethnicities (though there's that dad/mom bug...). 

BUT it seems to have come at the cost of fewer options all around, and only a few sliders per preset to 'customize' them. I hate to eat my words a bit, but damn, color me disappointed. I can still make a great looking Ryder, however my Inquisitor was far superior. At least I could pick her brows and skin texture. I'm not sure why these are not also options available in ME it would have not have taken a lot of space in resources. 

You took the color wheel from DAI why not everything else but spacey? That's seriously all we wanted.  

It would be easier and maybe we would  have more presets for out Ryders or customization options. I don't know what were they thinking. 
If I could cancel preorder I probably would do that.