Mass Effect Andromeda Skepticism thread

I know you played Inquisition, I know you finished it, but sometimes I wonder if you were paying any attention to the work whatsoever.  Or are making such gross generalizations to the point of absolute uselessness.  Corypheus was a great villain which had some pretty shoddy on screen execution, but even then, he was much better executed then a Drowner.  Or more specifically the White Frost, which was the main bad guy in the Witcher 3.  Unfeeling, uncaring, not abe to be characterized, nature.  Versus someone who could reason, who had motivations, who had dialog and you could talk to, relate to, and even sympathize for. 

1. Most complaints I've seen aren't about mannishness, but more about general attractiveness, or lack thereof. But I digress.

2. Exactly. And on top of that, Bioware said on twitter awhile back that all of the presets are based on face scans, so chances are, people will find at least something they like without touching the creator.


They didn't screw anything up, people are just more critical of female expressions in general, especially in gaming where flaws of technology stand out significantly.

Naughty Dog skirts this because every character they have is slightly stylized, thus tricking your brain and disguising any flaws that makes photorealism fail because you're not being confused by seeing a real face not be real and instead are looking at a cartoon that looks "realistic enough".

And really, Sara Ryder's flaws are in her eyes, just like Scott's. It's where all game faces that aren't stylized break down. No one cares about Scott because no one cares about men in general, lol.

Hell, even I overlooked Scott's dead ass eyes and focused on the fact that to me, Sara's face didn't look like her model until I saw the character kit and the model's face side by side and was able to recognize that the eyes were throwing me off. Perfect example is this quick, shitty photoshop I just did.



Throwing the eyes of the far right on to the base Bioware model changes the whole thing, which is to be expected because that's what always happens.

Eyes always break the illusion with face scans. Even on deadeye Sheploo.

Wait all you changed from right to left is the eyes? 

I did nothing but a quick copy/paste from right to left. I barely bothered to make it look natural.

I still loved his line to the Inquisitor at the end "Dumat Ancient Ones I beseech you if you exisist, if you ever TRULY exisisted then aid me now!" If it wasn't for that line I probably would be agreeing with most of the criticism on him. 

Six of one half dozen of the other? I mean if you didn't pay attention to my post, I said he was a great villain with shoddy on screen execution.  That is one hell of a qualifying statement.  Essentially everything that happens to Corypheus off screen, he's a great bad guy, but it does not help that most of the time we have seen him on screen he is a rage monster.  And there are times his 'true nature' kind of peaks through.  Not that I blame him for being a rage monster I'd be pissed to if some meddling kids foiled my perfect plans with seeming no effort. 

My. Point. Exactly.

(It's sooo weird to see all those praises to 'writing', 'characters', and 'world', which had been written by a different writer, a decade before the game, really. It's like if PJ could get awards for 'writing' Bilbo. )

I think CDPR deserves the praise. The reason TW3 in particular is so great is because of their sterling execution (not to mention a totally mindblowing capacity for improvement. TW1 is kind of bad for a studio's first game. It's unbelievable that TW3 is only their third).

The books are pretty forgettable.

To each his own. I played DA:O with a friend who also found him to be a terrible character in terms of motivation, but to me he mostly worked.

Which granted I mostly agree with you though, BioWare was known for having some awesome villains, even Corypheus in DA 2s Legacy was amazing...oh what could have been. 

Yeah, sure. And 'Hobbit' movie is a masterpiece based on a worthless kiddy fairy-tale. [/sarcasm]

Whatever they do to the side-quests and pretty graphics, it's NOT their own setting. Yenne, Geralt, Dandellion and many others had been created&written down since 1986. The fact that major audience of W3 had not even been conceived by that moment does not change it.

The Hobbit is a bad movie based on a good book.

The Witcher 3 is a good game adapted from a bad book.

I'm not saying that it's their setting (although some of its most memorable aspects and characters are original to CDPR), I'm just suggesting that the IP seems to be in better hands with them than it was with its original creator. This isn't exactly unheard of. See Star Wars.