The Tempest thread (confirmed 100% weaponry free)

Or we can shoot ourselves in the head: the honourable way out, instead of being captured.

no, the logical course of action is being suspicious because of the lack of a coherent explanation

When past explanations for Mass Effect wtf-ery have been "resources" and "organic energy" I am not optimistic of the explanation for this one.

yeah, but going without proper means to defend yourself seems almost as silly to me.
Especially for the Nomad.

EDIT: or just go the full way. Grants tac cloak to the Nomad, at least.

going on skull island without a rail gun is not a bright idea either

thank you

All due respect, but no, you did not.

"Legal reasons" is not a logical explanation. I know of no law, ever, that prevented reasonable defensive measures for an expedition into unknown territory, or indeed explorers/pioneers dumb enough to go along with such a law. And note, "running away/FTL" is not the extent of reasonable defensive measures.

First time poster here, and I apologize if what I'm about to say has already been covered by someone in the thread at an earlier point- I skimmed most of it but may have missed a similar argument.

I guess my own two cents is that it's not a big deal like some people are making it out to be, and not because of logic or lore reasoning or what have you. Mass Effect has been space opera for as long as the series has been around, and any of the posters I'm seeing claiming otherwise (how are those rose-tinted glasses treatin' ya?) are forgetting that even Mass Effect 1 had plenty of moments of logical inconsistency and space operatic reasoning.

For instance-
Saren's entire plan when he could have just played it cool and, I don't know, entered the Council Chambers while still a Spectre;
Asari in general. BioWare themselves stated in making-of featurettes that asari were put in the game to pay homage to the "space babe" aesthetic from the original Star Trek series and its Orion women that Kirk saved (We'll bang, okay?). Simply put, if you think the asari are believable on any level other than space-babe homage race... I don't know what to tell you;
Shepard's reasoning and promotion to Spectre. He/she sees a dream and immediately believes in the Reapers. Then complains to the Council who quite-reasonably say no, sorry, we don't believe you and your machine-race thing without evidence. Shepard, although he/she gathers evidence, is somewhat volatile for rushing into this quest;
Most of what Liara says in the first game, which is unequivocally pandering and overly-complimentary of the player;
The final battle with Saren transformed into a husk which, when defeated in 1v3 combat with Shepard and co., conveniently disables Sovereign, which before had been decimating everything. Gud thing sheperds gud wit his guns huh?

Furthermore, even if you want to argue that the original Mass Effect is hard sci-fi, Mass Effect 2 blew that out of the water in terms of sheer silly space operatic nonsense involving catsuits, resurrection, a frog-assassin, boobtastic asari justicars, a ninja-thief, space batman, and so on. The list of silly elements in Mass Effect 2 are too many to name if you want to go down that road.

Despite this, I enjoyed the trilogy and hold them dear to me. I know what they are, and it isn't hard sci-fi. The writer's justify whatever fun adventure they have in mind for us to play and that's that. Now, I understand the concept of suspension of disbelief and how it relates to enjoying a story. But seriously. If you're sitting here complaining right now you must have enjoyed the trilogy, right? So you enjoy space opera, right? If you were able to suspend your disbelief for Miranda Lawson's skintight catsuit or thermal clips or biotics, which are, at their core, just space magic...

Why are you getting worked up about a ship not having guns? It's easy to contrive a writer's reason for it not to have guns. It's not a big issue. It's not something hard to suspend your disbelief for in comparison to space magic. Space magic. Really? You can believe that Jack can flip a table using the electricity in her nervous system coursing through element-zero nodes implanted through her body but you CAN'T believe a ship used for science and exploration might not be armed?

Ugh. The level of pettiness here is boggling to the mind.

A BTW question: do we know yet whether we will have heavy weapons in MEA? Maybe we can take some with us in the Nomad?

doubtful...tho I like the idea of heavy weapons

Another BTW question: do you know of any expedition (without the goal of conquer/war) that went into an exploration mission with armatures at the spearhead?

Who doesn't in general? 
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