The Tempest thread (confirmed 100% weaponry free)

From one of the promo videos, we learn that there are fighters that defend the ships. 

Exactly, there won't be combat situations that will need weapons attached to the ship to advance the story unless it's written in and the option provided.
Something came to mind while thinking about these complaints: Underlying the grievances is an overwhelming sense of vulnerability for some potential players both within and outside the game. While this fear is irrational(as fear often is) this design choice could be(should be) intentional to tap into and exploit this tension. Something that could both immerse the player and be explored by character actions within the story. 
It's not a deal breaker for me either, I'm intrigued to see how this is handled in game.

I agree that he probably wouldn't answer your question... but I disagree on the reason you're assuming.  It's an irrelevant question.  The story was largely written by Schlerf before he left.  Whatever plot "purpose" this weaponless idea may have, it was probably drafted into the story before Mac became Lead Writer.  I think there is a chance he might answer the OP's question, though; unless it's something they are trying to keep under wraps from the time being... playing on our insecurities... just as Prospero suggests above.

Lol

Nah... at this stage of what they have revealed about what the story might be, it's like people seeing a little puff of smoke coming from the kitchen and sitting there screaming FIRE! FIRE! and trying to empty the restaurant of patrons while refusing to take some time to get up and simply open the kitchen door to discover that the chef burned the toast.

... and the fact that they've been screaming FIRE for 5 years now doesn't make their opinions more credible.

You hurry too much then, soon we all see how fruitful this intricate strategy will be. Eventually Kett will have to admit that their fleet is useless, because it cannot nor catch nor find AI ships. Future warfare will be decided by groups of 3-4 people dropped by fast and elegant ships. Like horses became obsolete in WW2, so will be dreadnoughts and cruisers, mark my words.

As far as I know the ships in destiny never engaged in space battles, the ones your Guardian piloted anyway. Not sure if they had weapons either.

So maybe the tempest is like that? a quick get in and get out ship, A tad bigger than those Destiny ships but could work the same way.
Probably park it far away and use the nomad to traverse to where they need to go to keep it "stealthy"? I'm just thinking out loud here.

I still don't understand the argument that no weapons is illogical.

There are two ways to defend yourself: Run or Fight. There is nothing wrong with running as a defensive strategy. You can try to fight while running but that just reduces your chances of succeeding at either.

The best way for a small scouting vessel to avoid getting blown up by whatever threat is out there is to be able to a) spot it and avoid it before encountering it or running from it. The best way to get yourself blown up is to engage it (defensively or otherwise), with weapons.

The best way to convince an alien race that you come in peace is to come in an unarmed vessel. The best way to start diplomatic negotiations on the wrong foot is to fly an armed vessel into someone's territory.

So to me the logic is the other way round. The only reason to have weapons is if you want to kill something or have a vested interest in defending a particular location. The Tempest isn't designed to do either. There may be AI ships that are but the Tempest is not one of them so, given that there is a down side to arming up, it makes more logical sense to forego weapons it doesn't need in favour of the maneuvarability, speed and peaceful apperance that it does need.

Personally think a one dimensional rabbit strategy(run Away) is crazy. If you have assets on the ground running away means abandoning those assets no matter the size of the threat. Having some armaments means you can choose when to run and when to stand your ground. You don't have to run the instant anything no matter the size enters the area you are exploring.


Sorry don't see how walking around armed with various pistols, sniper rifles, submachines, flamethrowers strapped to your back is good negotiating but having even some small level of armaments on your craft is bad diplomacy. Weapons on a ship would only be considered bad imo if you go in with a shoot first mentality.

Because having two options (run or fight) is better than having one (run)? I don't get where the assumption that we'd always lose a fight but always succeed at running comes from.

The "we come in peace" schtick is all good and nice and diplomatic, sure - until we find a remnant vault, then it's time to bring out the Apex Strike Teams and shoot aliens in the face.

And some alien creatures might just be outright hostile and not give a shit about peaceful appearance. But luckily, tyranid hive fleets won't be a thing.

Oh my sweet summer child...

... and you still have plenty of time to just not buy the game.  This thread is all about people trying to convince others to bolt from an "imaginary" fire... just like they've been trying to do ever since Andromeda was first announced.

I'm going to hang around to see what they actually have done with it story-wise.  If I don't like how the story fits it in then... I'll criticize it then.